The Swedish Airport That Had To Ban Boeing 737s & A320s
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- Gothenburg is Sweden’s second-largest city, behind Stockholm, the country’s capital. Correspondingly, the city’s Landvetter Airport is the country’s second-largest, behind Stockholm Arlanda. However, as recently as 2015, Gothenburg also had a second, smaller commercial airport. But why is this no longer the case?
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With the way Ryanair lands, it’s no surprise that the runway got damaged
But it wasn't the runway, inatead the taxiways.
@@rkan2
If the Airport was that busy ! Why ,
Couldn’t it afford to upgrade it’s runways or taxiways
Poor management or they just wanted to make a quick profit and take the money and run?
@@mariombrbovic8188 Probably because it's a cheap airport to use, I mean there's a reason it was only used by budget airlines such as Ryanair and Wizz
@@gourmetbacon5750 so they were in it to make a quick buck ! Because their slots were cheaper and passenger expectations were lower.
So they deserved each other!
@@mariombrbovic8188 Well yes, they offered cheaper slots than Landvetter which of course is suitable for budget airlines
Honestly suprised over how good he pronounced '' Göteborg ''
especially compared to how awfully he pronounced everything else
@@derppey & @Zy: LOL, so true! :-)
@@derppey HAHAHA thought about that as well 😂😂
But Göttlandsflush was a bit of a mess.
I did not even know it was pronounced like that.
NO WAY! So cool that you made an video about my local airport (I live in Säve). It’s was a brilliant airport because Ryanair provided good destinations and It was much easier to use and get to instead of Landvetter. I could have technically walked to an international airport which is so weird.
I'm lucky to be able to walk to my local international airport. That airport is Edinburgh, the walk takes me 35 mins.
I'm not a fan of Ryanair, I can tell you that.
I usually fly Aer Lingus to Ireland instead.
Flew to/from there many times. One interesting thing is that when exiting the terminal, you'd usually see tourists stand and wait for the airport bus, while most locals walked a couple hundred metres to get to the local bus stop by the road and pay a fifth of the fare.
This is also a 'lifehack' in Melbourne & Sydney airports. Instead of paying $30 for the airport bus (Melbourne) or the train, you can walk about 100 metres to the local bus stop that's inside the airport, and catch the city bus to the nearest metro train station for a few dollars. This is actually more convenient if your last stop is between the airport & city centre because the airport coach/train goes all the way to the city without stopping.
Used to be the same in landvetter but due to corruption they removed the public transport from gothenburg to landvetter...
I like how he said the swedish words. I live in Sweden and I would say he was quite good on pronouceing stuff like "Hisingen", "Göteborg", ect.
Förutom Gotlandsflyg som han uttalade ”Jötlandsfluch”😂
Back in 2006 I went on a group tour and we flew into Säve/Gothenburg City from Stansted (via Ryanair of course). What I remember was that once we got through immigration/customs and walked out of the terminal to our bus, we saw the 737 that we had just gotten off of turn around and take off again - I wonder if Ryanair figured it was more economical to fly with nearly twice the amount of fuel to allow for quicker turnarounds (and letting the airport foot the bill of all that extra fuel weight on the taxiways).
That's a common practice called tinkering actually. Short flights/flights to areas with expensive fuel costs will fuel up for the return trip too, to save costs
Face it everyone..you clicked this video to see Ryanair being banned for landing too hard!
No😂
nope, i live on the island the Airport is on
No
No, they actually taxiing too hard.
Yep
All 10,000 737s be like
U have been banned from the party
Let me understand this......your airport becomes super popular and presumably super profitable because of the scheduled passenger service, so instead of making small upgrades to enable that to continue, you shut down that entire operation.....
Yeah, totally makes sense!
I flew there from Stanstead in the early 2000's, and paid about £ 20 for a round trip. On the return leg Ryan Air's 737-200 went technical, and I eventually flew back in a BAC 111!
Awesome when the best aviation news TH-camr mentions your home town and airport! Keep it up!
that was really good pronunciation of Göteborg
I thought it banned Ryanair 😅😅
Everybody should ban Ryanair
@@Rafael47936 no
@@Rafael47936 no
@@Rafael47936 yes
@@Rafael47936 no
Flew in and out of City a few times around 2004 with Ryanair. I was working for a company with HQ is Karlstad and got the train. I remember it being a typical “shed in a field” Ryanair destination of the time. Back then Skavsta was actually pretty similar but that has been completely transformed now.
Well. Being from Sweden and growing up in the area; I’ve flown from Säve quite a number of times.
- Small terminal with nothing there. It looked like a shed on a field basically. The pub was like two tables airside.
+ All of the above! Sadly the airport coaches followed Ryanair’s recommended check in times but the place was so small that you easily cleared it all in less than half an hour. Everyone conning early usually resulted in a shit load of people standing at on of the two (?) gates.
I lived in Sweden for years and can confirm it was a pretty shit airport 😂
Has the A330 CEO (classic) edition ever flown there? That is a modern widebody aircraft, built in the 1990s. Also, it is sad that an airport fell out of business. Thankfully it is used as a General Aviation one. :)
I am not from Sweden BTW
I think I did actually fly Stansted to Gothenburg City roundtrip on Ryanair in the early 00's. I remember thinking that the airport was particularly small, but not much else.
I have flown to and from Säve many times I was also a member in one of the flying clubs there because my dad used to fly around there a lot.
I live in Göteborg and I’ll have to say that the airport is and always have been extremely unknown as a commercial airliner airport. Currently it houses flight clubs and SPU Pilot training school. 👌
How much did Ryanair charge the airport for each landing?
I just imagined an airport landing on a plane :D
@@Fif0l wth
Lmao
@@Fif0l looool now i did
Worked here for 8 years as a marshaller/baggage handler etc.
Really miss it!
I think the deeper story here is that the airport was probably being mismanaged if they were unable to save up enough revenue from 800,000 passengers a year to make runway and taxiway repairs. There's something deeper going on there.
The airport was out of date long before Ryanair started flying to it. The terminal felt more like a metal shed on a field than a secure airport. It would require massive investments to rebuild it to modern standards, which wouldn't be viable when also competing with already modern Landvetter. There simply isn't enough flight traffic to/from Gothenburg to support 2 modern airports
@@johantaube3022 yes but also I reiterate, 800,000 passengers a year. Let's say you charge $5 a passenger, that's 4 million a year (and that's a totally reasonable charge, Heathrow charges some £42 per passenger plus insane landing fees per aircraft plus parking fees per aircraft)
My local small airport managed to build a totally new, small terminal with about $15 million, so they could do that with four years of revenue. Same idea with runways and taxiways. Monetize the new terminal too, like my local airport did add retail and find vendors and start taking in rental income and add a surcharge on all purchases. Build a parking lot and charge for parking.
This is my favorite Aviation Channel
I'm sure there would be less clicks if you said 'airport had to ban A-320'. Infrastructure, is always important, & I would be interested to find out who instigated the flights to this airport, the airport or Ryanair? If it was the airport, they should know what the weight capacity of their taxiways were. Ryanair, I suspect wanted not to pay the cost of flying into Landvetter.
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There should have been a route development program at the airport which takes into consideration airport infrastructure. This is normal done by the airport operator/owner however it can be subcontracted to a consultancy firm.
@Qatar001
I wonder what the 737 did to you…
You're butthurt over what??
@Qatar001
I don't understand anything that you're saying…
Make it make sense
@Qatar001
You just said it's less comfy than the A320 so why do you want them to get 737s
Not sure how critical it was, but noise pollution was also an issue with lawsuits in Miljödomstolen (environmental court) which took forever. Upgrading a small military / GA airport into flying large jets have significant impact and several houses needed to be rebuilt. If I understand correctly Gothenburg City Airport closed 2015, just three years after finally loosing the last battle about financial responsibility for the noise corrections etc. so maybe taxi way repairs was just one more issue for a financially burdened airport.
On a personal note, as someone who had to drive to this airport in pre-GPS days, who the F is responsible for road sign in Gothenburg? I lost like 30-60min just getting lost with signage missing or way to small/hidden. Gothenburg certainly did not treat it as a “real airport” that people unfamiliar with the location should be able to find to. Based on those experiences I certainly would plan any important trip over Landvetter. A longer trip to a normal well equipped airport without weird unexpected problems.
So in my mind, it felt like Gothenburg never decided what they wanted with Säve. If we wanted a secondary airport, we’d support the airport / home owners financially, and make the traffic signs actually help people find the airport. Not treat an airport as garbage.
I took the ferry a couple of times from Newcastle to Göteborg. I didn't realise that RyanAir was part of the reason I can no longer (easily) get my car to Sweden.
They just went down even more in my estimation!
I travel to göteburg a lot from London. I remember it being a tiny airport, almost just a shack.
Fun fact in Sweden we call the Saab 29 the flying barrel
I never flew to Göteborg; I went on the ferry many times, which was always lots of fun. I am sad it has gone.
I wish it was back.
Man I love your channel
Landvetter was a pretty smooth and tidy little airport. Especially with priority access.
As a swede, I can tell you, you’re not alone to pronounce all these names wrong!
The fact there is a Ryanair in the thumbnail is hilarious!
Its all ryan air’s fault because of there super hard landings. But it is still the best airline lol
The damaged part was in the taxiways so it's completely unrelated to Ryanair hard landings
Cheap does not equal best.
@@Nautilus8596 They decided to land on the taxiways to save fuel
@@aarondynamics1311 good one m8
Can't understand why anyone would complain about a landing that you can walk away from .Over the years I have made over 1000 flights and every landing was a good one in my book-I walked away from.then all.-what more could you want .!!
Interesting that I instantly knew, which Airport would be mentioned, the moment i saw the Thumbnail. Well I guess that's because I actually have flown via Säve a few times. But I think we all have to agree, that Landvetter is superior in almost every way. But obviously it still is very sad to see an airport (partially) cease operations. But at some point in time, the flights I used to take to fly to Göteborg were stopped, which is why I then got used to flying from Berlin Tegel to Landvetters flygplats. With airberlin. This sadly isn't possible anynore either.
Very impressed how he's actually NOT butchering Swedish names.
I flew out of Save a few days after 9/11. Or rather I didn’t... the flight got so late that it was no longer allowed to use the airport, so we got bussed to the main airport with police outriders. Bus went straight onto the apron and we got on the flight. I remember not being allow hand luggage or anything for security.
Great airport though, I was working for Volvo at the time and the plane virtually scraped the roof of the Volvo engineering building on the way in. Very convenient! Sad it’s no longer in use.
Did you ever fly to this airport?
No mate I live 10,000 km away
I mispronounced the name as "Save Fly-ge-platt".
I did! I flew both commercial as well as the ambulance helicopter which is stationed there. At the other end of the airport there's an exceptionally interesting aircraft museum housed in the former "nuclear proof" hangars.
"Göteborg City Airport"
-what the hell is that even supposed to mean?!
"Gothenburg City Airport"
-ah it's the city airport for Gothenburg, got it!
Anyone know the name of the narrator or any other things that he's narrated? I definitely know that voice from somewhere!
Sounds like the voice from the Emirates safety video in English.
I saw somewhere that he is actually a voice actor who is paid to read the script.
Im not sure about that but it makes sense to me
I think it is Thomas Boon but I don’t know to be honest
Sounds like the airport is owned by a government and not by private investors. A private commercial airport would just do the necessary repairs instead of practically shutting down.
They could open it again, but restrict it to smaller aircraft such as the Airbus A220 and Embraer E-195, and only allow full-service and charter airlines (i.e. low-cost airlines forbidden).
Been flying from there like 5 times. Last time was when I moved back to Göteborg from Malta back in 2014
Clickbait... wasn’t just 737s.
We will adjust our title and image accordingly. - AR
Lame asf
Certainly an "A" for effort in getting the Swedish right! Sure is a shame that the ferry service to Newcastle was discontinued.
I've only flown to Landvetter airport in Feb 2020
2:29 that’s cork airport!
RyanAir probably kept smashing the ground.
They were damaging the airports taxiways, not the runway! ... (probably RyanAir made regularly scheduled smashingly hard landings directly on their taxiway lol)
OMG I THOUGHT OF THE SAME WHEN I SAW THE THUMBNAIL!
@@texasabbott Ryanair may land hard but I doubt this mistake a taxiway for a runway often. They're not Air Canada.
Because of runways?
Edit: NVM
I've been to gothenburg less than 3 months ago! Very cool place!
Do I spot an ANA colors Fokker 50 at 1:02 ?! 😮
That's probably Amapolas SE-LJY. They fly it for the Swedish Post office and is made in some hybrid ANA-like livery.
Will admit that my first thought before though was "Why and how would you fly a Fokker from Japan to Sweden?" 😜 😂
Makes a change from general aviation being squeezed out by airline traffic.
For a city of size in Gothenburg. It's not worthwhile to have two airports (Even if it was small in size)
In 2009 I flew from GSE to Frankfurt Hahn and back, for exactly 1EUR each way.
Wouldn't you think someone would've taken into account the extra weight and maintenance costs in the airport fees to the airlines?
If the taxiways are crumbling and not worth cost repairing, then the aviation regulator and airlines would have major concerns about debris entering (basically sucked) into large jet engine intakes. Airports take FOD (foreign object damage) seriously and regularly send out vehicles to survey the runway and taxiways. Large jets only really like sucking in air and rain. Birds, rabbits, ice, stones and chunks of concrete can have nasty affects - like destroying the engine. Eg Miracle on the Hudson, US Airways double engine failure due to bird ingest.
They banned 737 because Ryanair keeps hitting the runway
dreary o leary would have been happy with the operators stopping paddy air from landing here huh
So, instead of refurbishing and keeping all that business, they instead killed it off. Brilliant.
Probaby Ryanair landed in the taxiway but not smoth,instead they landed hard like Always
Yeah
Why don’t they just upgrade the runway so that they can continue welcoming RyanAir and Wizzair? Good for business after all
I live in Stockholm but have never been to Gothenburg
Planespotting at the airport was great cause you sat close to the runway, with just a few meters of big planes over your head that touched down.
I did use this airport many times to visit London. But it’s not as nice a Landvetter Airport or Arlanda
How did they not know the pavement capacity before granting permission to 737's and A320's? Seems like that'd be part of the due diligence yo you know...make sure your airfield doesn't get wrecked.
Why didn't they just repair the runway and improve it?
It was the taxiways not the runway which the owners claimed were too expensive to repair. Did you not listen to the video?
Funny how Göteburg city airport closed to 737 & A32F, while Brussels Airlines got an exemption to operate A319 in Stockholm Broma 🤔😉
It simply is a bigger airport in a way that it can handle aircraft like the A319 without problems
I've used this airport a lot back in the days. Sadly it wasn't any good with only two gates and a very limited amount of shops. Personally I prefer Landvetter as it's bigger and better.
also, you pronounced Göteborg very well considering that you are a foreigner
I think this is out of service. Castellum bought the property and turns it into a logistic business district.
Yes I have,second of all I literally live in Säve!
Banning the world's most popular jet . WOW!
TL;DR: they're too heavy and never should have been allowed there in the first place.
I live in sweden and I have flown from Landvetter och
Stop the Cap.
@@fahelzalmaj9222 you littel F#cker
51000 movements a year and instead of taking advantage of that and fix the taxiways it gets shut down? Sounds very fishy, and by fishy I mean someone should check the bank accounts of true local politicians.
thats sad
Goteborg standing by the aviation enthusiasts who want to see high capacity over high frequency
Simple flying experimenting with click bait? Don’t see the need. Stay true to your authentic self, leave the click bait for others.
We will adjust our title and image accordingly. - AR
Ryanair can both damage the Landing gear and the Taxiways. Legends got it!
2:19 for the answer
Why not just strengthen the taxi ways?
Did y'all do a video on that airport in Chicago that the major bulldozed?
I'll pass it on to the team. - TB
Are you talking about Meigs Field, the previous default airport of MS Flight Simulator's first versions?
@@luisandrade5126 yep. I believe so.
my sister flew from säve to the uk
I got an ikea advert
Haha they know they couldn't particularly ban ryanair and found Ryanair has a large fleet of b737 and a380 for the runway damage lol
He pronounced Göteborg better than me..........
they Ban Boeing 737s & A320s but not 747,777,787, A380,A350,A330
Damn, I never knew A320s are made by Boeing.
I have not
Tittle is quite controversial
I flew from this airport many times, it honestly is a terrible airport. Small, cramped and cold in the winter and then you had a Ryanair flight to look forward to. Only reason why I heard Ryanair chose to fly from this airport was because at the time, Landvetter ground crews did not want to do the quick turnarounds of the jets so that’s why the chose Säve instead.
Huh wow
What ever happened to American Airlines , delta airlines and united airlines boeing 757 going transatlantic I never see those jets going on a transatlantic route in a while. I just realised on flight radar24 so what's the deal with that
lol the only 757 afaik that still operate are from DHL service.
Bullied into submission by Ryanair refusing to pay a fair landing fee no doubt.
I've never been this early on your channel before (I was number 29)
I have only been at landvetter 3 times save 0 times
Wait, I thought Wizz Air was Icelandic.
You may be thinking about the now dfunct Wow Air: they both had purple paint schemes and Airbus planes
0:21 lose?
Yes, what about it
Clickbait as usual. They banned all airliners of that size.
Interesting that they didn't just strengthen taxiways with such high usage... They must've been profitable. They have the best technology for it. The Scandinavian countries build roads and highways that are far superior to the rest of the world.
Apparently the cost of repair was too high. They would have to literaly digg up the whole taxiway and rebuild it from scratch