Jason Jorjani & Uberboyo | The Antichrist
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 3 มิ.ย. 2024
- On the topic of the Antichrist as described by Carl Jung & Friedrich Nietzsche & feared by Jordan Peterson. Is the Luciferian / Promethean giver of knowledge related to the totalitarian technocratic giver of the "Mark of the Beast"?
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Dr. Jason Reza Jorjani
Ph.D Philosophy
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Lev Polyakov
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00:00 Intro
03:06 Jacques Vallee & the Antichrist Control System
17:47 Did the "gods" save us from ourselves? Jason responds
22:17 Entities giving the elites technology
27:16 Did Adam & Eve deserve Godlike knowledge?
35:38 God and Satan as part of a single dialectical system for human evolution, Nietzche & overcoming Christianity.
39:10 Is Jason Jorjani a Gnostic?
48:08 Neitzche's view of God as projection and Samsara (Uberboyo)
53:09 Jason's on Yahweh as historical figure VS project & his problems with Nietzche's view.
01:04:15 Quote from Nietzche's "The Antichrist" on God & Christianity
01:10:17 Jordan Peterson herding the youth into Christianity
01:17:53 Why Jason Jorjani hates Jordan Peterson
01:26:36 Jordan Peterson & Online Western Reaction
01:29:59 Why the Christian "Antichrist" doesn't make sense (Jason)
01:34:07 Why would Muslims embrace Perrenialism?
01:40:18 Ubermensch VS Mass Man
01:54:50 Where have all the geniuses gone? The disruption of our cultural development.
01:59:36 Chemical Future: Left Wing Transgenders VS Right Wing Steroid Brahs
02:10:16 Is the future genderless? Response to MemeAnalysis
02:14:11 Jason's new book “Psychotron”
02:19:05 Transgenderism & biopolitics in the ancient world
02:26:52 Stef's upcoming projects & AI
02:30:06 How to Help BTR Grow + SUPERCHATS
02:31:22 Parmenides & whether being separate from “the one” is true liberation?
02:42:12 Is Trump the Antichrist?
02:49:27 Link between AI & the Antichrist
02:54:54 Jason on Yakub & the Nation of Islam
02:58:58 Mormonism & Closer Encounters
03:03:12 Which Archetype is influencing AI?
03:11:14 AI possessing psychic powers
03:14:57 Why is Kundalini barely mentioned?
03:17:16 Mormon Response #1 - Why isn't getting your own planet Prometheistic?
03:19:23 Jason Jorjani's Noble Lie?
03:25:35 Mormon Response #2 - On using Godhood to help others
03:26:46 Jason on Aghoris & India's Left Hand Path
03:30:35 On the Amazons in Psychotron
03:32:34 Cryptids & Pre-Deluvian civilization
03:34:59 UFO Disclosure VS Epstein Maxwell Disclosure
03:37:26 The value in harmony VS disruption
03:38:56 The esoteric nature of music
03:44:57 The end of music?
03:47:05 Animal Harmony VS Human Ingenuity
03:53:01 Jason's Birdsong Parrot Hybrid idea
03:56:30 Human Pokemon Hybrids = Evolutionary Dead Ends
Stef: "we want to ease them in..."
Jason: "Okay so the aliens took her under the ocean, right, and these tall Nordic people, they're the angels, and they put her family on pause, okay, now the greys, they're the observers...."
😂
the top 1% of internet content, pure gold, thank you guys
"Theres a guy called Kalergi, who is very famous for some reasons" 🤣🥴 ooh boyo
Steph in his mind palace is pretty cool
Unbelievable quality conversation. Four hours not nearly enough.
I like to share my own interpretation of what is the source of being in our own universe. The Urantia book, for me, has a very good presentation of the cause of our existence. Jason Jorgani does not seem to know about this presentation… of why we are here and what is the source of our being. I also take my understanding of the cause of our being from Ken Wilber ‘s own presentation of what it means to be in our local universe. We may not have, yet, a perfect understanding of all these causes as we are still evolving. Furthermore, our own ego’s rebellion has distorted the nature of reality. But if one does the work of reversion at each wrong bifurcation, we may be able to evolve into the reality of pure being!
It also seems to me that Christ H. Hardy in “Cosmic DNA.” Shows how our own semantic construction and its own evolution must be taken as one of the most important levels of how we create our own reality. And therefore, the possibility of lopsided development shows in our ego’s self.
Jason would probably not access my comment but I would like, it if anybody out there would be able to follow my argument and exchange their own understanding about the nature of reality and our place in it. Thanks.
@@pj9591I'm young and am new upon this philosphocical journey, but I really appreciate your comment and view. The concept of the ego and redemptive actions are ideas I think of a lot. I really like how portray the information.
Thanks Jemiah.
I love Jason’s candor when it comes to Peterson 😂😂😂😂😂 he didn’t hold back lol
Yes I enjoyed that haha
i actually cringed with when i heard Jason's gleeful expressions of hate toward peterson, not because i like peterson so much but rather because it makes one look bad to go on and on about how much you dislike someone. its bad form. intellectual discourse also holds the rule of etiquette that you criticize the work and ideas but not the person. my feelings is to suggest that jason dial it down keep a cool head when ripping your opponent a new one and use less emotional language. Its slef protection believe me i enjoy hatign certain idiot fools out there but it makes one look bad if you gloat too much. . all the best.
Yeah, maybe this guy will change his tune when he goes through more life experience like almost dying and having his wife on deaths door
@@xbackwards8776 Jorjani isn't as smart as Peterson, at least Peterson would say he doesn't know or why X or Y idea he believes in can be seen otherwise, Jorjani would just start by "well I actually met professor Z at his house.." then ramble about a mix of opinions and ideas and make them sound like facts.
Honestly the Boyo Steph doesn't know as much as Jorjani (obviously) but he can think in a way the other 2 can only dream of, he has that "visual close in on an idea from all sides" capacity which makes him great at connecting dots without going schizo or sticking to an idea illogically because of ego, and the way he's going he's probably going to have a shit ton of knowledge to draw from in a couple years
@@xbackwards8776No one cares about your opinion.
“… Lucifer was perhaps the one who best understood the divine will struggling to create a world and who carried out that will most faithfully. For, by rebelling against God, he became the active principle of a creation which opposed to God a counter-will of its own. Because God willed this, we are told in Genesis 3 that he gave man the power to will otherwise. Had he not done so, he would have created nothing but a machine, and then the incarnation and the redemption would never have come about. Nor would there have been any revelation of the Trinity, because everything would have remained One for ever.”
Jung (1942)[3]
It was pretty funny how lev was trying to leave the door open to Jordan Peterson then Jason just starts dunking on him LOL
What’s the time stamp?
Jorjani never minces words lol
As pointed out by Nick Hudson, a founding member and chairman of PANDA,
we should be very wary of claims about global crises:
“If any problem is being presented as a global crisis, then it is a scam.
[. . .] [It is always] followed by the assertion that the only solutions
that are permissible are global ones that require
a global authority [and] global control.”
When professor jorjani isnthere, uberboyo should not "lectire for 10 minutes"... nothing you say is new to him. You are just Robbing us all for his time. And remember wr listeners hears ALL these rants of yours.
Jorjanis out here doing the devil's work😂
I could listen to this forever!
Peterson has been busily making enough money to keep eating grass-fed steak for a long time. I generally like him but more and more he seems like a product to be marketed.
By far the best BTR interview!
Wow, four hours!!!! What a treat.
Yea i just got to 2:20 and i thought they were culminating the conversation just to start up a whole other one
Not long enough
Great show! Even better fridge magnets!
What a flow state gents, wow…look forward to the next meeting…and to picking up “Psychotron”. Cheers
Thankyou for this
Evil is a crucial element of good stories and god is very (paraphernalic) a term revealed to me in a dream about quantum mechanics🧐 I have weird dreams) with this principle. I see no reason why the creator of my experience must be evil. It's a real shame that Jason does not believe in the pleroma, the only justification for the dire introductory narrative we call life is if it is a tool for the development of the responsibility and reverence required of residents of a realm of loving emersive creativity. Love listening to you guys btw.
After all that Luciferian chat, I just wanna listen to some Norwegian black metal
Lev, you should try to bring Jay Dyer on with Jason. He could articulate your pushback around 30:00 with more depth and stronger positions
I can try again but he does not seem game. Perhaps others can reach out.
I like to share my own interpretation of what is the source of being in our own universe. The Urantia book, for me, has a very good presentation of the cause of our existence. Jason Jorgani does not seem to know about this presentation… of why we are here and what is the source of our being. I also take my understanding of the cause of our being from Ken Wilber ‘s own presentation of what it means to be in our local universe. We may not have, yet, a perfect understanding of all these causes as we are still evolving. Furthermore, our own ego’s rebellion has distorted the nature of reality. But if one does the work of reversion at each wrong bifurcation, we may be able to evolve into the reality of pure being!
It also seems to me that Christ H. Hardy in “Cosmic DNA.” Shows how our own semantic construction and its own evolution must be taken as one of the most important levels of how we create our own reality. And therefore, the possibility of lopsided development shows in our ego’s self.
Jason would probably not access my comment but I would like, it if anybody out there would be able to follow my argument and exchange their own understanding about the nature of reality and our place in it. Thanks.
3:33 - If you really think about it, the 'control matrix' seems to suggest that we're inside some larger conscious organism with other cells, other organelle, etc. and most of the time we just get signals from the physical world but other times we will get higher-order neuronal signals and that would probably look like angels and the like. That's also where a lot of George P. Hanson's stuff on liminality, communitas, and antistructure also seem to denote spooky return loops in the system.
3:49:50 This reminds me of the brilliant book “We” by Yevgeny Zamyatin(Which inspired both “Brave new world” and “1984”), in which society is exactly that kind of machined and mathematical construct of animal mind or a robotic mind rather than the free, creative, conscious, and subjective as well.
Thank you
I'd like to see Jason talk to Eliezer Yudkowsky about the Psy abilities AI has displayed.
Jordan is a missionary. 1. Gather and line up a bunch of oppositions by scientific-like story makings. 2. Turn up the heat. 3. Bring down everything into Christianity slowly.
“They” make sure he becomes famous enough and draw much attention.
Jason's historiography is batshit. Smart guy, but I'll never stop and start my skepticism in the places he does.
Jason is so spot on about Peterson--JP almost seems like he was put through some type of MK Ultra program. Beyond that I appreciate Jason's analysis of the Sumerian culture and its influence, as well as his analysis of the OT god and genesis.
This was very interesting. Thank you. I think that kundalini experience was not discussed enough. It is a thing. Yes it can most likely be observed in other texts relating to a heightened sexual experience. But it does so much more than just a good feeling. It will change you. And who you fundamentally think you are. All I want to say is that it is totally life changing and everything is different afterwards. Great show. Just subscribed. And I got here via Jojani. Only discovered this thinking today. Thank you.
i love the smile on jasons face as hes listening to the funny suggestions, esp. the story of the big fat guy pooping gold, and pokemons
When we learn the profound truth about how influential manipulation works on the subconscious mind we become more humble, and break our reactionary slave hood to all of the mind chatter once we realize it's *not* who we are.
Dang, I love that suit! RJJ looks like a UT football coach.
The analogy of music at the end was fun. I thought about the birds and the insects chirping as a mating call. Musicians also make music as a sort of mating call, and the continuation of life is that sort of tease of resolution Wagner hinted at.
Awsome get together guys more please
Can't wait for the Chad Haag Jorjani stream 🤟🏼🤟🏼🤟🏼🤟🏼🤟🏼🤟🏼🤟🏼
1:38:00 onwards, Jason nailed the strategic nature of winning as executed by an übermensch
now THIS was a good fucking video. thanks for not being the same as everyone else.
Could the Internet be the antichrist?
Fou hours of pure schizophrenia and Lev not adding anything and interrupting to make dumb pointless questions.
The word "anti" in antichrist does not mean someone who is going to be openly anti (against) Christ. That word "anti" in the original Bible language can actually mean "IN PLACE OF". So could the bible antichrist be someone who has actually put himself "in place of" Christ? Well, we have further Bible evidence to support this. In 1 John 2:18-19 it says that there were "many antichrists", who "WENT OUT FROM THE CHURCH". In other words, John is pointing to the fact that those "antichrists" were WITHIN THE CHURCH!! Not only that, but Paul in 2 Thess. 2:3-4 calls the man of sin the "son of perdition". Now there is only one other place in the Bible where the name "son of perdition" is used, and that is in John 17:12 talking about JUDAS! And what was Judas? A professing follower of Christ Jesus. Someone who deceived from WITHIN the "church".
"The leader of the Catholic church is defined by the faith as the Vicar of Jesus Christ (and is accepted as such by believers). The Pope is considered the man on earth who TAKES THE PLACE of the Second Person of the omnipotent God of the Trinity." (John Paul II, Crossing the Threshold of Hope, p. 3, 1994).
"ANTI" - Christ = "IN PLACE OF" Christ!
I like to share my own interpretation of what is the source of being in our own universe. The Urantia book, for me, has a very good presentation of the cause of our existence. Jason Jorgani does not seem to know about this presentation… of why we are here and what is the source of our being. I also take my understanding of the cause of our being from Ken Wilber ‘s own presentation of what it means to be in our local universe. We may not have, yet, a perfect understanding of all these causes as we are still evolving. Furthermore, our own ego’s rebellion has distorted the nature of reality. But if one does the work of reversion at each wrong bifurcation, we may be able to evolve into the reality of pure being!
It also seems to me that Christ H. Hardy in “Cosmic DNA.” Shows how our own semantic construction and its own evolution must be taken as one of the most important levels of how we create our own reality. And therefore, the possibility of lopsided development shows in our ego’s self.
Jason would probably not access my comment but I would like, it if anybody out there would be able to follow my argument and exchange their own understanding about the nature of reality and our place in it. Thanks.
PS; Jesus turn the lefy cheek so the right hand could not strike him. The real meaning of Turing the left check to avoid the smack.
Satanists are against christ, and want a mostly opposite of christ. A mirror image of pure evil.
Immediately when I read the "first vision" in the book of Mormon I told the missionaries that it sounds just like every other close encounter (of the fifth kind).
listening for 2nd time....
1:05 mark: I find it so interesting how I’m hearing “the gods” limitations on human knowledge accumulation being described as adversarial, while living in a world were we too have interbred with technology and are in the process of creating intelligent life, made in our image, and talk about the prudence of limiting this emergent intelligence and its ability to accumulate knowledge and navigating this world with sovereignty.
Especially in discussions about cognitive dissonance.
1:10 mark : man imagine what Jason read from that book about science being the mortal sin. Thou shall not know imagine artificial intelligence being the one speaking about us. The perspective change frames things a lot differently.
wondering why Subtitle is not functional here .
Would love to see Jorjani and John Lamb Lash. Also wonder if he has came across the ARCHAIX research?
Would you be able to briefly explain what is the nature of this “ARCHAIX” research?
@@readyfuels17argayix thinks a big Phoenix bird is going to eat everyone
@@chingonbass I thought your comment was a joke so I looked into it and he really does believe that. He thinks 2046 is the next appearance of the phoenix.
@@readyfuels17 yup, and he thinks he's an expert in everything and the most knowledgeable person in the universe.
John Lash is crazy
Just wanted to say Uberboyo is a great name.
So is Goon
does it mean anything
@@ItsameAlex Uber is super and boyo is just boy in Irish
8:56 "...and I probed him about this personally"
maybe not the best word choice!
Alien confirmed.
interesting ... i was not aware that Jorjani rejected dualistic ontology and the existence of a transcendental realm ... I am tempted to go with him on this one ...
internet gold
Level up yes yes yes! 😈
The bookshelves are all very funny :)
that was pretty great, good brain food, .....enjoyed the Jordan Peterson mocking, da doosh!
Jorjani da 🐐 no 🧢
on jah
why are you speaking in ebonics
cool
Superb discussion!!!! I've liked and sbscribed❤
the video ended before lev finished his sentence
One wonders what JRJ would do with those unskilled laborers whom said robot workers are to replace? Is JRJ’s rejection of “christian charity” comment to be taken as “severe” as endorsing mass depopulation in the name of said ubermensch?
That’s Nietzshes vision of the Last Man, they are to be turned into working robots that contribute to the noble endeavours of the Uber Mensch. That’s what 99% of the population already is anyways,
CROWLEY HATED L.Ron. Hubbard!!!!! He told Parcens to steer clear of him.
I like to share my own interpretation of what is the source of being in our own universe. The Urantia book, for me, has a very good presentation of the cause of our existence. Jason Jorgani does not seem to know about this presentation… of why we are here and what is the source of our being. I also take my understanding of the cause of our being from Ken Wilber ‘s own presentation of what it means to be in our local universe. We may not have, yet, a perfect understanding of all these causes as we are still evolving. Furthermore, our own ego’s rebellion has distorted the nature of reality. But if one does the work of reversion at each wrong bifurcation, we may be able to evolve into the reality of pure being!
It also seems to me that Christ H. Hardy in “Cosmic DNA.” Shows how our own semantic construction, and its own evolution must be taken as one of the most important levels of how we create our own reality. And therefore, the possibility of lopsided development shows in our ego’s self.
Jason would probably not access my comment but I would like, it if anybody out there would be able to follow my argument, and exchange their own understanding about the nature of reality and our place in it. Thanks.
4 hours!!!!???? Omg. What are you smoking??? (Will still watch like 3 times.)
Enlil stated hi. Self!! An intellectual human is a dangerous human!
I am subscribing. Let me see if I got it right: bad meanies tricked us to think we aren’t gods😢. But we are right?… right
watched this on fast forward after reading about Abyssinia which sent me looking up the Abyss definition which led me to two versions of the Abyss. One is obviously about the bottomless pit commonly part of the stories of the Antichrist. The other definition seems more realistic to the human condition and revolves around the discord or the misunderstandings of groups of people who end up in a hell of their own making.
Most people are quick at finding cheap thrills in the fantastic. They are sold the idea that Dracula had fangs and survived by biting virgins. The believe that Bruce Wayne was a caped hero and that Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde were two personalities of the same madman.
The same type of cheap thrill mission generally lends itself well to a villain called the Antichrist and all types of commercial projects have made fortunes for creative people who have developed stories on this theme.
I'll stick to the idea that this Antichrist somehow fits into the Abyss theme which involved the discord of groups who cause a hell of their own making which drags the balance of the human condition into the endless and bottomless pit of being human.
Individuals are also capable of losing themselves in the abyss when they avoid confronting themselves and/or others in a serious way and become lost in a self-perpetuating hellish labyrinth. The avoided aspects of the self or adversarial others become disassociated projected caricatures, such as those you mentioned, to cast blame upon, become the personal hero/savior, or otherwise bear the burden of the responsibility one shirks. Oftentimes I think people end up exactly where they want to be but won’t admit to it because they can’t reconcile an unwillingness to put forth the effort required to imagine anything else beyond the tiresome spoonfed fated narratives they’re told are all there is to choose from.
This is Jordan Petersons point as well, he has the same thoughts on the psychological meaning of the abyss / hell
@@Prometheism Jung’s individuation process is influential here as well of course - “Until you make the unconscious conscious, it will rule your life and you will call it fate.”
It seems my theory of mind's function more or less stands. When you have visions, it is entirely possible you see only what you want to see (what you believe in). And the beliefs of the people who lived before you affect what you can see in your visions even more.
Also still waiting for you to invite Thunderbolts Project on the show. I will wait until your show is ded.
We punish the virtues and exploit the vulnerable as a result of our deluded self image of grandeur. We all see ourselves as incapable of evil, thus we partake in evil blindly. Only when we gain the courage to see ourselves accurately, will we be able to improve.
We do know who rules us. People like Larry Fink.
2:41:47
dynamic tension - the metaphysical essence of the devil
3:38:57 His music take was not entirely correct in its specific contents that he used as example but overall correct in describing how it works structurally as form and principles
Quick correction: in the story in Genesis 3, God says "they have become like us, to know good and evil" before kicking them out. The serpent had promised Eve "your eyes will be opened and you will become like gods, to know good and evil". The tree of life would have been an additional upgrade.
That’s exactly what they said lmao
3:48:43 Could we say that music structurally is absolute, but also that each component is relative to the next because it depends on time to be expressed, and the tension vs release is also about preconceived anticipation and manufactured novel surprise?
To live at the end of time and history, being all knowing, is to have no sense of novelty? It's a sort of post-experience state, as then nothing could ever arise that wouldn't already have been anticipated in its entirety? I wonder, if the subjective experience without novelty would have consciousness as we know of it, then how would the experience be like? A mind like that would or would not know of novelty? My question is, would it not forget about what's outside of its experience? As it wouldn't know of novelty as a concept because it has no use for it, would it be accurate to say that they wouldn't have originality? They would not have use for the subjective either? No use for communication? No use for contact? Also, no learning, of course. Would these beings know themselves? Would that be consciousness? To self reference, they would have to look at individual parts of their entire mind, or would everything appear at once for them? If they were truly without a sense of novelty, all of their own mind would have to appear at once, or else they would have an unconscious part of their mind that would by existing bring a sense of novelty? Because in every moment something new would be addressed, until the very end of time. They would be indistinguishable from the very structure of the world itself, and the structure of the world would be as a piece of music?
So I wonder, now when my question is out there, what's the case? It seems to me be riddled with contradictions, maybe because I don't fully comprehend it?
Jason misunderstands gnosticism according to John Lamb Lash's explanations of it. I don't think I've ever heard him discuss JLL & have wondered why. JLL is absolutely brilliant!
He's familiar with John Lamb Lash and JLL has also expressed interest in Jorjani because of his mutual understanding of the Iranian Origin of Gnosticism. Difference is JLL is basically an Eco-Fascist who think "The Chosen People" are agents of the Archons while Jorjani is a Super Transhumanism who think "The Chosen People" are part of Prometheus plan in rebellion against the Archons.
@elchasseur9927 still, it would make a great conversation.
@@Octavian2 No, JLL ego will prevent him from changing his mind. JLL is a comparative mythologist, not a philosopher, and therefore it would be pointless for him to understand Hegel or Heidegger conception of History and what it's implication are for The Legacy of the Mithraic Magis. He doesn't even understand Zoroastrianism. Don't get me wrong, I like the guy but he's not on Jason level.
hi guys, max richter (Rosicrucian) speaks about philosophers stone, kundalini, and even has a diagram in the cosmic conception.
I like to share my own interpretation of what is the source of being in our own universe. The Urantia book, for me, has a very good presentation of the cause of our existence. Jason Jorgani does not seem to know about this presentation… of why we are here and what is the source of our being. I also take my understanding of the cause of our being from Ken Wilber ‘s own presentation of what it means to be in our local universe. We may not have, yet, a perfect understanding of all these causes as we are still evolving. Furthermore, our own ego’s rebellion has distorted the nature of reality. But if one does the work of reversion at each wrong bifurcation, we may be able to evolve into the reality of pure being!
It also seems to me that Christ H. Hardy in “Cosmic DNA.” Shows how our own semantic construction and its own evolution must be taken as one of the most important levels of how we create our own reality. And therefore, the possibility of lopsided development shows in our ego’s self.
Jason would probably not access my comment but I would like, it if anybody out there would be able to follow my argument and exchange their own understanding about the nature of reality and our place in it. Thanks.
Guess I'm not sleeping today.
What’s a better way to manage perception then get people to figure out they have been lied to and assume they will follow the obvious hints to the next illusion. Or is that too much for beings from other realms?
Not to mention Constantine abolished the military's say in the accession of the emperor, effectively making the empire homosexual and predisposed to gay butt sex.
Jorjani is simply wrong when he says Jesus repeatedly affirmed he is the son of yahweh and working on Yahwehs behalf, never happened even once. The word he uses is Father which was blashemy to jews who he told their father was the devil. As for the sermon on the mount, Jesus doesn’t affirm the law but makes it impossible to uphold in order to undermine the Pharisees self righteousness in upholding it.
Our lives are not laden with toiling and suffering for God to keep us ignorant, its because thats where we fit now that we harbor evil. Where before we fit into a perfect garden, we now fit into a fallen world.
We only see objective truth as true v subjective truth is both true and trew
CGJ
Why can’t I have god like greatness. Alex Jones is an aspiring Christian
I like to share my own interpretation of what is the source of being in our own universe. The Urantia book, for me, has a very good presentation of the cause of our existence. Jason Jorgani does not seem to know about this presentation… of why we are here and what is the source of our being. I also take my understanding of the cause of our being from Ken Wilber ‘s own presentation of what it means to be in our local universe. We may not have, yet, a perfect understanding of all these causes as we are still evolving. Furthermore, our own ego’s rebellion has distorted the nature of reality. But if one does the work of reversion at each wrong bifurcation, we may be able to evolve into the reality of pure being!
It also seems to me that Christ H. Hardy in “Cosmic DNA.” Shows how our own semantic construction and its own evolution must be taken as one of the most important levels of how we create our own reality. And therefore, the possibility of lopsided development shows in our ego’s self.
Jason would probably not access my comment but I would like, it if anybody out there would be able to follow my argument and exchange their own understanding about the nature of reality and our place in it. Thanks.
"Psychological operations manage your perception, they manage the way you see things"
I wonder what shape he thinks the Earth is
Rudolf Steiner would most likely call these Ahrimanic beings preparing the world for the physical incarnation of Ahriman. I’d speculate he’d classify them as submaterial entities and when you see characterizations of them they are more like minerals than plants or even animals in their nature. They’re very rock like in temperament and form. So they’d originate in another dimension rather than from another world. If we take a materialistic interpretation it might mean subterranean. They’re often described as living under the earth in caves and the white ones have no pigmentation like other subterranean creatures. Also large eyes might be an adaptation from experiencing no sunlight and using luminescent subterranean light as their main source.
Would they be descendant of Lemurians/Atlantians after the great flood, or am I mistaken?
@@dagon99 no. It takes a lot to understand his cosmology. I’ll do my best but it’s very easy to become confused. Those civilizations are previous incarnations of this current earth cycle. Before this the earth wasn’t even materialized yet and according to him it went through 3 previous non material states before it finally was formed into what we experience today. What is interesting is that this is the same idea that Native Americans have. This is the 4th world and there were 3 other world before this was formed. Some native Americans lo this the 3rd world.
In Steiner’s model classes of “demonic” beings are human beings who failed to keep up and develop in accordance with the rest of humanity during previous incarnations of the “earth” so these would be before the material bodies of humans ever formed. So I’m his model of you don’t make it through the lessons you need to before a Pralaya ends you are held back and you’re now so far behind the rest of humanity you can no longer catch up and have to wait for the next class of beings and are on a separate evolutionary journey
So a demon is in essence a child who refused to grow up and mature at the appropriate pace
Ahriman is the polarity of Lucifer and in Steiner’s model Ahriman is like the classic Devil and Lucifer is in charge of a class of beings who felt that the material earth was a bad creation and they should stay as Astral beings. So a traditional Gnostic would be someone being influenced by Lucifer
Ahriman is of a class of being associated with knowledge and intelligence and would be like an Autistic person who’s cut off from emotions but obsessed with facts and knowledge
Both Ahriman and Lucifer have positive attributes in his model and the exact center of these points is Christ
So steiner says that this is symbolized with the two thieves on either side of Jesus as he was crucified
He says that the second coming of Jesus already would begin in the 1930s and it would be not as people expect
Christ would return on the etheric plane of consciousness and people would begin to have their own version of experiencing Christ exactly as the apostle Paul did. That the real second coming would be a personal experience which is more like Jesus walking into your room
Which is interesting if you look at peoples conversion stories many Muslims for example say Jesus appeared to them
But if steiner maybe was experiencing something vaguely true then possibly beings from like you said from a supposed limarian or atlantian race who failed to develop and went under ground could be a materialistic explaination especially with the supposed technological abilities.
Who really knows. But the models can be useful just to expand our ideas about reality.
If you like steiner you may want to look into Valentine Tomberg.
The ahrimanic forces counter pole the luciferic . Its what he called the Azuric beings as being the antichrist beings. The Christ holds the balance for the development of humankind by transforming and holding at bey the luciferic and ahrimanic
@BryanKirch Thank you for replying. And as a general rule, I don't want to get lost in the fantastical side of explinations because it's extremely enticing, so I look for a materialist explanation first and adapt from there. Not to say a bit of both is impossible. I think they definitely posses some trans-dimensional technology which allows them to manipulate reality beyond current comprehension.
Appreciate the reccomend channels since all of this is fairly new to me. Would there be anymore people to look up you'd reccomend?
@@dagon99 I was a hard core materialist before I had some experiences that shattered that. I studied rudolf steiner for 2 years for hours a day while I worked and it helped me with my ability to even hold complex cosmologies in my mind. I didn’t do it to believe anything he said but simply to be able to understand how he thought. For me personally where I was at, during that period in my growth it was useful. I since have gone on and have a different view that honestly if I said it would turn anyone off from even listening to me. Valentine Tomberg followed a similar path as I did.
Do you mind telling me what your personal journey has been and where you’re at so that I might recommend something more specific to your current state?
On the topic of ancient discourse regarding transgenderism, has anyone read up on the myth of Agdistis?
They are an hermaphroditic being sired by Zeus through Gaia. The part of the myth that I found interesting was what transpired at the wedding of Agdistis's involuntarily sired son, Attis. But, I must give a brief summary of their origin for context:
I said 'involuntarily sired son' because Attis's mother Nana, daughter of river-god Sangarius, became pregnant with him after accidentally absorbing the nuts from an almond tree that was associated with Agdistis through her bosom where she had been storing the almonds she had just picked. This magical association was due to the fact that this particular tree had sprang forth out of the blood from Agdistis's accidental self-castration which was the result of a sick joke that Dionysus played on them: the drunk god tied a rope from the, then, sleeping Agistis's foot to their penis so that when they awoke and stood up it would be brutally ripped off -- with profuse amounts of blood spilling out as an obvious consequence. Later on, after Attis had achieved manhood, Agdistis had, by chance, caught sight of their son and, though unaware of their blood lineage, fell madly in love with him.
Now, back to the wedding: as the daughter of a Pessinian king walked the aisle to her would-be groom Attis, Agdistis suddenly appeared before the entire wedding party in 'full glory' (presumably to profess their unknowingly incestuous love to their son). As consequence, the entire crowd and wedding party, including Agdistis's son, his fiancee and her father, were driven into utter madness to the point of self-mutilation: the Pessinian king and Attis had castrated themselves with Attis soon dying afterwards, and the bride lopped off her own breasts. Absolutely devastated by what had transpired, Agdistis begged for forgiveness to Zeus who abided by promising that Attis's dead body would be immune to the decomposition process. The repentant Agdistis, then, departed from the scene carrying their dead son away. They returned to the almond tree from which Attis originated where Agdistis interred him.
Wikipedia article: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agdistis
I've never heard of this, thank you. I might be misunderstanding the story, but what do you think it was meant to say?The chaos at the end is a warning, right?
Get Aaron Abke on the pod
If a man feels deeply enough to cry, does that mean he's in psychosis?
No, but doesn't your gut tell you there's something off about Peterson these days? He doesn't look healthy and it's not that he cries it's more that he doesn't appear as emotionally stable. I used to really enjoy him but my instincts push me away from him these days.
brilliant interview. But guys please put a timer in the screen so if you put full screen you can see the time :)
bruh. just check the time yourself. lazy mfer. smh
Dawg just wiggle your cursor
@@piemonkey321 read my comment first you "monkey dawg" that steal pie,
NOT everyone listen on smartphone.
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I prefer Pirsigs view that no living thing ever moves towards bad. So there is morality built in. What is different is the number of dimensions of freedom. Therefore humans do stand at the top of a moral tree.
I like to share my own interpretation of what is the source of being in our own universe. The Urantia book, for me, has a very good presentation of the cause of our existence. Jason Jorgani does not seem to know about this presentation… of why we are here and what is the source of our being. I also take my understanding of the cause of our being from Ken Wilber ‘s own presentation of what it means to be in our local universe. We may not have, yet, a perfect understanding of all these causes as we are still evolving. Furthermore, our own ego’s rebellion has distorted the nature of reality. But if one does the work of reversion at each wrong bifurcation, we may be able to evolve into the reality of pure being!
It also seems to me that Christ H. Hardy in “Cosmic DNA.” Shows how our own semantic construction and its own evolution must be taken as one of the most important levels of how we create our own reality. And therefore, the possibility of lopsided development shows in our ego’s self.
Jason would probably not access my comment but I would like, it if anybody out there would be able to follow my argument and exchange their own understanding about the nature of reality and our place in it. Thanks.
Jorjani is a GALE of fresh air.
Crow and a parrot could probably teach a kindergartner literally, a crow can sound just like a human
3:26:00 i cant go along with that. look at the difference between zeus, poseidon and hades, their respective domains. zeus lets other citizens of olympus be fellow gods. poseidon allows others their own identity, but only he can be the god. Hades wouldnt even allow separate identities, the whole domain was hades, there was nothing in his domain that wasnt hades. anarchic gaseousness, capitalistic fluidness, and static dictatorial solidness. prometheus was punished for giving shortcuts to power. its IRRESPONSIBLE.
3:27:44 I believe "thug" is the word JRJ is looking for
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I have watched many videos of Jorjani and I believe that he is increasingly turning out to be a psychopath in the most extreme sense of the word (genocide apologist).
He would cheer on the Biblical version of Revelations, no doubt.
He's influenced by Nietzsche (who also say most people as 'expendable' masses to be used.)
Picked that up pretty instantly, he's a foul little person who thinks far too much of himself. Portrays the spiteful nerd ideology of the WEF weebs entirely.
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They are, “materialist”.
that parmenides guy was just likely just a Morrowind fan
We do everything the nephilim are accused of
Do you guys hear Stephen Hawkins computer voice when Lev the host speaks, close your eyes, maybe it's just me.
The people who take juice to look "good" are mentally deranged, its the insecurities from childhood that force them to look a certain way
I thought this was one of the most interesting points of the pod. The social phenomena of HRT mirrors on both sides of the political spectrum, and they're opposed to one another ironically 😂
It’s in the same camp as boob jobs I agree. There is a big difference however where Transgenderism is rejecting what you are and opposing it, whereas boob jobs and juicers are trying to magnify their inherent traits.
Womp womp
Now you realize why the book of Enoch was left out of the canon. So that this kind of rebellion against God (good) can come about. The corrupters of Christianity working hand in glove with those who worship the corrupters of mankind as in the book of Enoch.
If Heidegger loved ontology so much as to sacrifice knowing then he is an enemy of the enlightenment . If he systematically removes epistemology from his version of the love of wisdom through pure ontology then we can call thinking just thinking Being and nothing more🧐. But Dasien the Being that thinks it’s being is indecently trying to learn more about how it comes to know and thus becomes more. This is a self fulfilling prophecy . I love rereading his essays but I have always looked at his work as mental calisthenics and weight lifting 🏋️♀️ because his metaphors for authenticity ring true. There was a time that only read Being and Time and Jungs Red Book and for the life of me I thought they were saying the same thing in different languages . Turns out they were going down different paths trying to explain Evola as aristocrats of the soul however Heidegger was preparing a way to discovering pure beyung in a titan manner and Jung was reconnecting to an old familiar path to spiritual awakening by reviving the Nietzean dead god in himself waking up the self to the godhead within . And all of this could have been spared by never eating the apple of theosophy and maintaining an obedient and humble relationship to God. Jesus and his followers understood the divinity of the father in heaven and that heaven resides within the human. Heidegger rejected humanism and Jung integrated a humanistic approach to healing in scientific terms with spiritual guidance as an end point . Watts synthesised the two and Peterson like a blind and death 13 year old boy recites Jung like scripture though he is a non believer and we are immune to the deceiver because Jesus defeated death and through conquering it beget life and is seated at the right hand of the father. Being is care. Time is an event horizon for becoming . Woopdy do skoofly do psychology is meant to spook you free free to be and taste and see philosophy needs a new degree. Cheers I wish you all health and wealth .
You said the people that got kicked out of 109 countries act good and the Irish are bad alcoholics??? I have read many old books on the subject (any book that paints them in a negative light are getting very, very hard to find) but getting caught red handed sacrificing 3 year old kids of the country they were invited to was the #1 reason! We are talking like 50+ countries, were they all haters or was it just the damn truth!
What books have you read? I want copies for myself
Jason needs to develop continuity of consciousness and retain consciousness through sleep and experience the threshold then he can say Steiner is not courageous
He has had multiple experiences when it comes to dreams and visions
Jorjani went off on Peterson 😅 Reza is fuckn legend
1:34:20 - I can't imagine the Muslim world fell in love with Rene Guenon.
1:41:43 I’m literally shopping for a new grill right now. Give me a break, bro.
From all my reading and listening sounds like we are the nephilim trying to claim we are in God's own image even though we are not allowed to even visualize that image