I was so disappointed that we barely saw her in the jail at all. About 5 - 10 minutes of screentime? It made me kinda angry. I just wish we saw the trails she went through mentally and even possibly physically in prison. It just felt like it was completely built up just to be struck down straight away.
I don't necessarily think the story needed to be a two parter but it would have been good to have seen jenny again. maybe do the same that they did with ashilder. two stories that were connected but totally different
I always thought of turn left stolen earth and journeys end as a trilogy, that could be expanded out to a half series 6 episodes, not three, and yes, it could be a full length film
I have a few more - The Long Game (Needed more time to establish the world building, and the villain is defeated way too fast) - New Earth (Just imagine this episode with more runtime and higher budget) - Tooth And Claw (Everything felt so rushed, it really needed more runtime) - Gridlock (Same reason with New Earth) - Victory Of The Daleks (Everything, i mean everything felt so rushed. Also i think Daleks revealing their true purpose would make a good cliffhanger) - Let's Kill Hitler (Needed more time with Tessalecta and Hitler before River takes all the attention, and imagine this episode Amy and Rory, Tessalecta and Nazis chasing River all over WW2 Berlin)
Jenny would have been an interesting companion because of they father daughter dynamic and it would have been a nice way to reference the very first season of doctor who,
Here's the thing about The Time of the Doctor, they later on released a book called 'Tales of Trenzalore' that expanded on a bunch of things from the episode *that could have been put in the episode had it been a two-parter*. Except for what happened to his leg. They kinda give us the middle finger on that one...
The Power Of Three was apparently a really fantastic script but Steven Berkoff was apparently really difficult to work with and thus they had to change the ending.
the power of three was supposed to end differently, but the actor who played the villain was so annoying they basically had to fire him and rewrite the ending to the lackluster we got. as for time of the doctor, Moffat originally wanted it to be an entire series, but for various reasons that didn't happen
I really wish that Clara had left after 'Kill the Moon'. You just don't get instances where a companion leaves out of anger with the doctor. They sometimes do choose to leave, but not on bad terms. It would have been a great ending for her and would teach the doctor more of an impactful lesson as it was set up to be.
But exactly that happend. Clara was angry and she left. It was the Doctor, who "brought her back". It was him, who talked her into a last adventure, just this one last and we're done. Clara was ok with the idea. Then at the end of the episode, she changed her mind, because she wasn't angry with the Doctor anymore and loved the thrill. If the Doctor didn't offer her the Orient Express in space adventure, she wouldn't come back, she would've left in anger, just as you said. So do not blame her, blame the Doctor.
To be fair, the sloppy ending wasn’t entirely his fault. It’s a shame really as I still think it’s overall a pretty good story, definitely Chibnall’s best
RTD was an excellent show runner because he delegated the bulk of the writing to others. The episodes he actually wrote were either good or awful. Case in point Tooth & Claw, Love and Monsters, and the Slitheen 2 parter (Aliens in London and World War 3)
@@Rickdegraaf Yeah. The reason why it was just a single episode rather than another series was that Matt Smith planned on leaving after Day of the Doctor. He hadn't signed on for another series. Time of the Doctor would've been much better as a series, considering how much is going on in it. Though I agree that, at the very least, if they weren't going to make it a full series, at least make it a two-parter so that it's not so condensed. As a side note, one thing that wasn't explained is how the Doctor got Handles. The explanation was supposed to be that he won him in an auction.
And before anyone complains about people not being forced to watch climate change propaganda, we have Praxeus for that. Seriously, we didn't need two climate change episodes, lol.
The Wedding of River Song should really have been an alternate episode 1 or, the Impossible Astronaut should have been Episode 2 and TWORS should have been Episode 1 if you look at it from a non-linear, non-subjec- oh you know the rest yes? lol
The reason the sandman episode wasn't a two parter is really because it's being produced by the villain, the villain dosent really like showing that they failed, but they probably did win
Great video! I love Eleven but the wedding of river song and the time of the doctor were two of the messiest episodes I've ever seen on Who, especially time of the doctor! It just felt like such a rushed, convoluted way to say goodbye to Matt Smith's era. As for sleep no more, I really like the way it ended.
Lie of the Land. Part 1 focusing on the Earth under the Monks, with the cliffhanger being Bill shooting the Doctor. Part 2 being the attempt to kick the Monks off planet
The Wedding of River Song is kinda like the backend of a two-parter with The Impossible Astronaut. If they had done it like that, it could have been much better timed overall between the two.
What a coincidence. I'm rewatching Doctor Who all over from Series 1. Today i watched The Wedding Of River Song and thinking it should be a two parter. And right at this moment this video pop up. The title is obvious, and the thumbnail photo is also from The Wedding Of River Song. It really blew my mind.
I agree with all of these, though a suitable alternate title could have been "10 Doctor Who episodes in need of Serious Script Rewrites" Episodes like The Doctor's Daughter and Time of the Doctor definitely needed more time, but one episode of Kill the Moon and Sleep no more is more than enough thanks :D In all seriousness though, another episode that should have been a two-parter is Into The Dalek. All the Dalek stuff in that episode is great, I just wish there could have been more Dalek action and less of Clara/Danny Pink and the boring soldiers. Into The Dalek could have been brilliant
Lol, the one with the Slitheen, the one with the Sontarans, the one with the Daleks in Manhattan, the one with the Doppelgangers, just off the top of my head
The 12th Doctor story Sleep no More was MEANT to be a two or three part story. Mark Gatiss has said he wanted it to play out like the old classic Who stories, such as The Yetis and The Web of Fear, where the Doctor fought the same enemy in two separate stories, that would interconnect in some way. The Sandmen would have been finally defeated in either the second or third story with them in, and it would have probably worked really well too, sadly Chibnall wanted to bring his own writers in.......... Maybe the next show run will bring back the previous writers like Gatiss so they can finish off the stories they started.
no lol, Gatiss has said multiple times that Chibs invited him back. Gatiss didn’t do sleep no more pt2 cause he thought he would be sacked. If only he’d had a little bit more faith
Some of these probably wouldn't be another episode, if they originally wanted a two-parter for the ghost monument/nightmare in silver/the battle of Ranksoor av kolos etc, it probably would have been thirty minutes if the writes ran out of ideas or just have dull lines and scenes.
But the whole point of Fugitive of the Judoon was to leave the Judoon and Ruth stuff hanging for the end of the season? And honestly, the Judoon invasion was the least interesting part of the whole story, we don't need more of it. This episode was just the right length IMO.
I adore season six. It's my favourite out of all of Doctor Who even though 6B buckles quite a bit after the revelation about who River is. Having said that, the finale always irked me because there truly is SO MUCH happening but the reason it isn't a two parter is because...there actually isn't much happening at all, narratively speaking. River's refused to kill the Doctor and altered time. The Doctor marries her and resets the timeline, bringing the Teselector as the Doctor who gets killed, enabling the timeline to (somehow) continue without the Doctor dying. Yet what we get are BBC interviews with Dickens, pterodactyls in the park, Roman chariots at intersections, Madame Kovarian, Amy not knowing who Rory is, all filtered through the Doctor explaining all this to Winston Churchill. I also adore the Moff, but everything I typed out reeks of him trying to tszuj up a pretty simple story. I rewatched series six and was actually surprised at how little happens in the finale. I was also surprised that - for a story centred on River Song, altering the timeline twice and marrying the Doctor (and finding out his name) why SHE wasn't the main focus of the episode, especially since you spent 2.5 years building up the mystery of who she is. We should have seen her forced into the astronaut suit. We should have seen the plan Amy and River made that's thrown away in dialogue in the alternate timeline. We should have seen the capturing of Madame Kovarian...all through River's eyes. It's STILL Doctor Who because the man she loves and the man she kills and doesn't kill is THE DOCTOR. There's no issue. Alex does a phenomenal job in communicating how much she cares about the Doctor, but it would have been nice to actually see that. Actually see her singlehandedly make time implode and make the time 3:02pm perpetually. We should have seen her struggle against wanting to kill the Doctor and her devotion to him. In some ways, the series 6 finale should have actually been part 2 of A Good Man Goes to War, not being the following episode, but a thematic sequel. By shifting the perspective from the Doctor to River, it probably would have been a much stronger episode while retaining Area 52 pyramids, Roman Emperor Churchill and the impromptu wedding as simple window dressing instead of those elements being the window.
Last episode of Doctor Who I watched and I was only halfway through it. Absolute junk. I look forward to Whitaker and Chibnall leaving so I can start watching again. They’re killing a once great show one episode at a time.
Power of three does not need to be made into 2 parts, its way to long as is. Sleep no more was meant to have a follow up episode where gatiss would have covered your points, but was changed to write the empress of Mars. Nightmare in silver according to gaiman was meant to be also 2 parter, it was also meant to include the revenge cybermen instead of the cybus models, but they didn't have time to get the costumes. Gaiman has also said in interviews the Moffat wanted alot of the script changed and re wrote parts. As it was meant to include more body horror and the sneakiness that worked for the classic cybermen as he was tired of the matching stompy cybermen. But Moffat also changed that as well. This is what lead to gaiman saying he was done with writing for who
Honestly there are very few new who stories that wouldn't be miles better with a second part. Dalek, the demons of Punjab, etc. are really good because they're simple stories and so nothing gets confused. The episode I want more from is blink because, as it stands, the angels' actions make no sense (they must know they shouldn't look at each other, there's no reason to go up to the TARDIS, etc.) but the core ideas (weeping angels and messages on DVDs) are great, they just need more time to gel properly.
What If Susan the doctors granddaughter was from Jenny who traveled in the past/encountered the first doctor at some point to give to the doctor at the end of her life? Letting the doctor raise Susan
I agree with pretty much everything here, and the common thread with a lot of these is that the episodes really rush towards a climax. The exception I'd say is "Fugitive of the Judoon", which does feel like a 2-parter in that once you get to the reveal halfway that it feels like a different episode. It makes me wonder if that was originally the plan but they didn't have space within the season.
I feel like all of rivers episodes should be two parters cause firstly you get more river and secondly all of her episodes include so many plots it would mean all of them could be explored fully before she teleports off and is seen at a completely different time 😂
It funny on how many people watching MMPR were a bit annoyed at the back-to-back multi-parters after Rita returns to the show and which carried in the third season. And now folks are complaining that Doctor Who after season 6 had less two parters episode.
I couldn't agree more about the Power of Three. I remember when this episode aired, I was absolutely on the edge of my seat. It was legitimately one of the most compelling stories of Who I had ever seen - having been in it right from the start of New Who. When the horribly rushed conclusion came and the credits rolled, I just said... "oh." I just couldn't believe such an incredible set-up could have such a lame conclusion that absolutely sunk this incredibly promising episode into mediocrity. I feel all these problems could've been fixed if it had been a two-parter. This would've also given more time for a more fleshed-out and less contrived conclusion. Imagine if this episode had been like "Midnight" and the nature of these cubes was never revealed, but rather the human race had to work together to clear this pest, but there was an uneven amount of resources in each country to remove them, leading to wars between countries to develop this anti-cube.... oh wait this is covid. Still, would've been a MUCH better story than the one we got. It's such a shame that a story with so much potential was just tossed out the window like that.
Theory: Jenny ended up regenerating then years and many lives later ended up meeting the 11th Doctor who saved her life at the same time she met and later married the love of her life, a silurian that we all know and love, yeah you know who I mean.
I too think that Jenny should have had more screentime in Doctor Who. And, tbh, I was quite happy seeing her in a couple of episodes of Torchwood again. So, basically, she got more than just one appearance and did have more impact and character depth than you mentioned (just no in the main show but a spinoff).
Maybe the Time of the Doctor was a 2 parter but it relied too heavily on the Silence and we forgot it. That is why it might have felt like it was fast forwarded. 😉
Just about every story should have been two partners, the show used to be a serial, adventures went for up to 2 or 3 hours in the early days, but when you try and condense a serial into single episodes the ideas are always going to feel cramped and underdeveloped and also it means they chew up way more stories than the original series did cos they dont spend any time developing them which in turn makes you feel like youre watching alot of unexplored stories that are spat out and dispensed with before you can get invested properly in them.
Guys, hi! I love doctor who, but I can't find a place to watch the classic series (except for britbox, but the problem is that there is vpn needed cuz bbc doesn't want anyone to see it's secrets) so could you please ignore my bad jokes and bad English and tell me is there any other place to watch classic Doctor who?
yes there is! daily motion is a video sharing site. I have a spreadsheet with links for nearly every episode of classic who (from the beginning), i’ll drop the link here for you :)
Skipped through and realized you hadn't included 'The Eaters of Light' a nearly great episode with wonderful locations which then has loads of plot development happen off camera when the doctor is in a different temporal flow, so it is told not shown. It then hurriedly kills off half developed characters whom we've hardly met and expects us to mourn them. Classic "We ran out of budget" stuff (probably resulting in the awful 'Empress of Mars' as a studio bound filler).
it’s mostly cause the guy who played Shakri was a dickhead and insulted the entire cast so Moffat forced Chibs to rewrite an ending to feature him less
Isn't it slightly telling that quite a few of these were Chibnall scripts? I have nothing against him but I do agree with the common complaint of rushed plots. The Ghost Monument and The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos defo could have been expanded better but I don't think Fugitive of the Judoon needed anymore time. Also, another Chibnall script The Power of Three I honestly wouldn't have wanted a part Two. It very much needed maybe an extra ten minutes to satisfyingly wrap up the plot but just how stretched out can that general conceit be? It gets a bit boring at times so two episodes of it would have been... Eh. And finally, The Time of the Doctor was gonna be a whole series, Smith just decided to leave (Which he later regretted) so Moffat condensed it into one special.
Thought the ghost monument was stretching a story too much. Personally speaking. Thought the ''space crawly'' episode was a bit much after ''apollo 18'' came out. Wedding of river song part 2 would either be a totally different story expanding on ''the center of time'', or a likely rather dull where'd she go after the library ? 🙄 Judoon probably is judoon for space rhino police ; ju - do - o(o)n . Power of 3 was booooorrriing, he could've popped in, said ''I got this, Relax!'' and left .
I always felt Let's Kill Hitler would have been much better as a two parter. Introducing Mels for the very first time and then immediately having her turn into River seemed shallow when Mels hadn't been sprinkled into the show previously. Didn't give me any feels at all when she regenerated.
I would love to see an episode with the Doctors daughter where we see she has created her own Galifrey with clones of herself just like she was cloned from the Doctor.
@@themostbritishpersonalive868 it’s not though. Most aliens in Doctor Who branch of and create their own civilisations. Which makes it annoying when each time Galifrey is destroyed all Galifreyians don’t seem to exist anymore.
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Revolution of the Daleks.
The Doctor in prison could had been it's own episode.
The episode could quite easily have been a series.
Came here to say this
It was a bit of a disappointment.
Yesss
I was so disappointed that we barely saw her in the jail at all. About 5 - 10 minutes of screentime? It made me kinda angry. I just wish we saw the trails she went through mentally and even possibly physically in prison. It just felt like it was completely built up just to be struck down straight away.
Definitely should have been a second story for the doctors daughter
i am against that i love the doctors daughter but doctors daughter was one of those short but sweet eppisodes
I don't necessarily think the story needed to be a two parter but it would have been good to have seen jenny again. maybe do the same that they did with ashilder. two stories that were connected but totally different
@@thechillindude4478 I agree
'The doctor daughter ' is what it could be called. Like torchwood but his daughter and maby other people staring in it
@@capybaralova4508 in someway u totally hav a point
Turn Left didn't NEED to be a 2 part-er, but it was so good I didn't want it to end. It could have been a feature length film.
I always thought of turn left stolen earth and journeys end as a trilogy, that could be expanded out to a half series 6 episodes, not three, and yes, it could be a full length film
Nahh make it a TH-cam short that 2 parter sucked but that's just me
Even in reality the doctors daughter is still weird when you look at the history, her dad is the doctor, and her husband is also the doctor LOL
And she went to school with Colin Baker's daughter.
Lol that episode is how they met!
I have a few more
- The Long Game (Needed more time to establish the world building, and the villain is defeated way too fast)
- New Earth (Just imagine this episode with more runtime and higher budget)
- Tooth And Claw (Everything felt so rushed, it really needed more runtime)
- Gridlock (Same reason with New Earth)
- Victory Of The Daleks (Everything, i mean everything felt so rushed. Also i think Daleks revealing their true purpose would make a good cliffhanger)
- Let's Kill Hitler (Needed more time with Tessalecta and Hitler before River takes all the attention, and imagine this episode Amy and Rory, Tessalecta and Nazis chasing River all over WW2 Berlin)
Jenny would have been an interesting companion because of they father daughter dynamic and it would have been a nice way to reference the very first season of doctor who,
*Might I just point out that if “The Power of Three” was a two-parter, we would’ve got more of Brian Pond*
*And THAT, people, is a win!*
Lol
I wish we had actually gotten the story that was written with Brian and his grandson.
In the words of Smart Hulk: I see this as an absolute win!!!
You mean Brian Williams, right?
@@guimbelleaux Yeah! But, we like to call him Pond because... THAT'S WHAT THE DOCTOR DOES!
Finally someone using the word Penultimate correctly. I’ve heard so many people recently on TH-cam using to mean ‘Final’
Here's the thing about The Time of the Doctor, they later on released a book called 'Tales of Trenzalore' that expanded on a bunch of things from the episode *that could have been put in the episode had it been a two-parter*. Except for what happened to his leg. They kinda give us the middle finger on that one...
The Power Of Three was apparently a really fantastic script but Steven Berkoff was apparently really difficult to work with and thus they had to change the ending.
Yeah I heard that too
It’s a Chibnall script so I sincerely doubt the ‘fantastic script’ part of your comment. Although I’ve heard Berkoff can de difficult.
@@CraigTulloch bruh
the power of three was supposed to end differently, but the actor who played the villain was so annoying they basically had to fire him and rewrite the ending to the lackluster we got. as for time of the doctor, Moffat originally wanted it to be an entire series, but for various reasons that didn't happen
I really wish that Clara had left after 'Kill the Moon'. You just don't get instances where a companion leaves out of anger with the doctor. They sometimes do choose to leave, but not on bad terms. It would have been a great ending for her and would teach the doctor more of an impactful lesson as it was set up to be.
But exactly that happend. Clara was angry and she left. It was the Doctor, who "brought her back". It was him, who talked her into a last adventure, just this one last and we're done. Clara was ok with the idea. Then at the end of the episode, she changed her mind, because she wasn't angry with the Doctor anymore and loved the thrill. If the Doctor didn't offer her the Orient Express in space adventure, she wouldn't come back, she would've left in anger, just as you said. So do not blame her, blame the Doctor.
Victory of the Daleks should have been on here, cause it takes an interesting idea of the Daleks being used as weapons in WW2 and squanders it.
Giving the power of three a second part wouldn’t have solved anything chibnall can’t write a resolution for his life
It was actually some production issues that made the ending not chibnall
To be fair, the sloppy ending wasn’t entirely his fault. It’s a shame really as I still think it’s overall a pretty good story, definitely Chibnall’s best
@@justabit6526 Chibs is the showrunner. Everything, good or bad, is basically his fault.
@@Temptation666 at the time Moffat was the showrunner
@@no_genius oh right :-) Thanks
Love how none of Russel T Davies episodes were on here... shows how good of a writer he was!
RTD simp
@@feliscatus4922 Trekkie Incel
see.
works both ways dude.
dont be a douchebag.
RTD was an excellent show runner because he delegated the bulk of the writing to others. The episodes he actually wrote were either good or awful. Case in point Tooth & Claw, Love and Monsters, and the Slitheen 2 parter (Aliens in London and World War 3)
moffat is way better than RTD
@@brettbrooks5511 To be fair, that 2nd one came from a child.
The Time of The Doctor was supposed to be its own series. So even saying it should be a 2-parter is an understatement.
Wait really?
@@Rickdegraaf Yeah. The reason why it was just a single episode rather than another series was that Matt Smith planned on leaving after Day of the Doctor. He hadn't signed on for another series. Time of the Doctor would've been much better as a series, considering how much is going on in it. Though I agree that, at the very least, if they weren't going to make it a full series, at least make it a two-parter so that it's not so condensed.
As a side note, one thing that wasn't explained is how the Doctor got Handles. The explanation was supposed to be that he won him in an auction.
@@SmartAlec86 Wow cool, thanks for sharing!
I firmly believe that Orphan 55 should’ve been scrapped entirely, and Can You Hear Me? should’ve been a two parter.
Yes! Can you hear me would have been great as a two parter. I try to forget orphan 55 exists 😂
Wat was can you hear me
@@redhood7650 The one with the bald guy with the tattooed head and the blond girl!
And before anyone complains about people not being forced to watch climate change propaganda, we have Praxeus for that. Seriously, we didn't need two climate change episodes, lol.
@@mattevans4377 tf u talking about mate there’s no propaganda when it comes to climate change
The Wedding of River Song should really have been an alternate episode 1 or, the Impossible Astronaut should have been Episode 2 and TWORS should have been Episode 1 if you look at it from a non-linear, non-subjec- oh you know the rest yes? lol
The doctors daughter, who played The Doctors Daughter in the episode "The Doctors Daughter" married the Doctor and had the doctors daughter
what
The reason the sandman episode wasn't a two parter is really because it's being produced by the villain, the villain dosent really like showing that they failed, but they probably did win
Great video! I love Eleven but the wedding of river song and the time of the doctor were two of the messiest episodes I've ever seen on Who, especially time of the doctor! It just felt like such a rushed, convoluted way to say goodbye to Matt Smith's era.
As for sleep no more, I really like the way it ended.
Victory of the Daleks should be on here
nah it’s literally a power of the daleks rip off already
Lie of the Land. Part 1 focusing on the Earth under the Monks, with the cliffhanger being Bill shooting the Doctor. Part 2 being the attempt to kick the Monks off planet
The Lie of the Land is the last episode of the Series 10 '3 Parter'
@@kingzaynsmyname3634 i know. And yet that story would've benefited from being one episode longer
I’m h on nearly surprised they didn’t include Victory of the Daleks, the prime example of when a doctor who story should be a 2-parter
Ideally a 2-parter completely different story written by someone else.
Kill the Moon certainly doesn't need to be a two-parter, it was bad enough as a single episode.
Honestly there could be 5 more of these videos. Or 10 stories that could be movies.
the longer storylines was part of what got me into Doctor Who back in the 1980s ... and the Capaldi two-parters helped bring me back in
Sleep No More was going to have a sequel in series 10 but in the last minute, hour or day it was replaced with Empress of Mars
The Wedding of River Song is kinda like the backend of a two-parter with The Impossible Astronaut. If they had done it like that, it could have been much better timed overall between the two.
I understand these but imagine the cliff hangers on them
Thank you for a addressing sleep no more I think it gets a really unfair shake a lot of the time
for the time of the doctor there was supposed to be a season of matt smiths time on trenzalore but it wasnt able to happen due to matts filming time
correct, you can see what the individual stories were supposed to be
What a coincidence. I'm rewatching Doctor Who all over from Series 1. Today i watched The Wedding Of River Song and thinking it should be a two parter. And right at this moment this video pop up. The title is obvious, and the thumbnail photo is also from The Wedding Of River Song. It really blew my mind.
Just want to say that the thumbnail is great. I have no bias here.
Knew you would be here!
I agree with all of these, though a suitable alternate title could have been "10 Doctor Who episodes in need of Serious Script Rewrites"
Episodes like The Doctor's Daughter and Time of the Doctor definitely needed more time, but one episode of Kill the Moon and Sleep no more is more than enough thanks :D
In all seriousness though, another episode that should have been a two-parter is Into The Dalek. All the Dalek stuff in that episode is great, I just wish there could have been more Dalek action and less of Clara/Danny Pink and the boring soldiers. Into The Dalek could have been brilliant
I always felt that the ‘Rings of Akhatan’ would have been better as a two parter...the ending felt rushed
Can you do one for episodes that shouldn’t have been two parts?
Lol, the one with the Slitheen, the one with the Sontarans, the one with the Daleks in Manhattan, the one with the Doppelgangers, just off the top of my head
@@hgwells1899 how dare you
The 12th Doctor story Sleep no More was MEANT to be a two or three part story. Mark Gatiss has said he wanted it to play out like the old classic Who stories, such as The Yetis and The Web of Fear, where the Doctor fought the same enemy in two separate stories, that would interconnect in some way. The Sandmen would have been finally defeated in either the second or third story with them in, and it would have probably worked really well too, sadly Chibnall wanted to bring his own writers in..........
Maybe the next show run will bring back the previous writers like Gatiss so they can finish off the stories they started.
no lol, Gatiss has said multiple times that Chibs invited him back. Gatiss didn’t do sleep no more pt2 cause he thought he would be sacked. If only he’d had a little bit more faith
If you say so......
@@THESHORTBOXFULL look it up, there’s articles on it
Kill the Moon should have been a 0 part story.
Some of these probably wouldn't be another episode, if they originally wanted a two-parter for the ghost monument/nightmare in silver/the battle of Ranksoor av kolos etc, it probably would have been thirty minutes if the writes ran out of ideas or just have dull lines and scenes.
Funny how almost every story in S9 was a two parter but Sleep No More is probably the story that needs a second part the most and didn't get one lmao.
But the whole point of Fugitive of the Judoon was to leave the Judoon and Ruth stuff hanging for the end of the season? And honestly, the Judoon invasion was the least interesting part of the whole story, we don't need more of it. This episode was just the right length IMO.
I adore season six. It's my favourite out of all of Doctor Who even though 6B buckles quite a bit after the revelation about who River is. Having said that, the finale always irked me because there truly is SO MUCH happening but the reason it isn't a two parter is because...there actually isn't much happening at all, narratively speaking. River's refused to kill the Doctor and altered time. The Doctor marries her and resets the timeline, bringing the Teselector as the Doctor who gets killed, enabling the timeline to (somehow) continue without the Doctor dying. Yet what we get are BBC interviews with Dickens, pterodactyls in the park, Roman chariots at intersections, Madame Kovarian, Amy not knowing who Rory is, all filtered through the Doctor explaining all this to Winston Churchill.
I also adore the Moff, but everything I typed out reeks of him trying to tszuj up a pretty simple story. I rewatched series six and was actually surprised at how little happens in the finale. I was also surprised that - for a story centred on River Song, altering the timeline twice and marrying the Doctor (and finding out his name) why SHE wasn't the main focus of the episode, especially since you spent 2.5 years building up the mystery of who she is. We should have seen her forced into the astronaut suit. We should have seen the plan Amy and River made that's thrown away in dialogue in the alternate timeline. We should have seen the capturing of Madame Kovarian...all through River's eyes. It's STILL Doctor Who because the man she loves and the man she kills and doesn't kill is THE DOCTOR. There's no issue.
Alex does a phenomenal job in communicating how much she cares about the Doctor, but it would have been nice to actually see that. Actually see her singlehandedly make time implode and make the time 3:02pm perpetually. We should have seen her struggle against wanting to kill the Doctor and her devotion to him. In some ways, the series 6 finale should have actually been part 2 of A Good Man Goes to War, not being the following episode, but a thematic sequel. By shifting the perspective from the Doctor to River, it probably would have been a much stronger episode while retaining Area 52 pyramids, Roman Emperor Churchill and the impromptu wedding as simple window dressing instead of those elements being the window.
TBORAK is a lost story from the beginning nothing is able to save that snoozefest
Last episode of Doctor Who I watched and I was only halfway through it. Absolute junk. I look forward to Whitaker and Chibnall leaving so I can start watching again. They’re killing a once great show one episode at a time.
To be fair, I still love time of the doctor so much.
I mean I think that every regeneration episode should be two-parters. Allow us time to be hit by really emotional stories.
This video is BRILLIANT!!!
For the love of god don’t give the ghost monument a second part it was torturous enough watching one episode
It was *really* long, but I can see how it could have been made better by fleshing out some of the ideas.
I'll just wait for the expanded Power of Three and Nightmare in Silver Target books
Moffat wanted to make the time of the doctor a two part er but it was the higher ups who said no
Power of three does not need to be made into 2 parts, its way to long as is.
Sleep no more was meant to have a follow up episode where gatiss would have covered your points, but was changed to
write the empress of Mars.
Nightmare in silver according to gaiman was meant to be also 2 parter, it was also meant to include the revenge cybermen instead of the cybus models, but they didn't have time to get the costumes. Gaiman has also said in interviews the Moffat wanted alot of the script changed and re wrote parts. As it was meant to include more body horror and the sneakiness that worked for the classic cybermen as he was tired of the matching stompy cybermen. But Moffat also changed that as well. This is what lead to gaiman saying he was done with writing for who
No more Gaiman espisodes?! 😭
@@elyssay3157 Well he wasn't going to do another one for Moffat, but since he is now gone who knows.
Half of these didn't need a longer run time, just a better writer
Every entry on the list: "This was underwhelming, should have been a two-parter."
dont forget the matt smith episode where wifi kills everyone and redirects a plane into the tardis
Doctor Who series 3 almost all of it it’s gone on BritBox please can you explain
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Honestly there are very few new who stories that wouldn't be miles better with a second part. Dalek, the demons of Punjab, etc. are really good because they're simple stories and so nothing gets confused. The episode I want more from is blink because, as it stands, the angels' actions make no sense (they must know they shouldn't look at each other, there's no reason to go up to the TARDIS, etc.) but the core ideas (weeping angels and messages on DVDs) are great, they just need more time to gel properly.
Time of the Doctor also needed to drop the entire sub-plot about Clara's family IMO.
What If Susan the doctors granddaughter was from Jenny who traveled in the past/encountered the first doctor at some point to give to the doctor at the end of her life? Letting the doctor raise Susan
I agree with pretty much everything here, and the common thread with a lot of these is that the episodes really rush towards a climax. The exception I'd say is "Fugitive of the Judoon", which does feel like a 2-parter in that once you get to the reveal halfway that it feels like a different episode. It makes me wonder if that was originally the plan but they didn't have space within the season.
Two-parters! Pft! When I wuz a yung-un, most Dr Who stories were five of six episodes long!
4 parts, 6 parts 7 parts 8 parts 10 parts and one massive 13 part (yes I'm counting mission to the unknown as the prolog!!)
I feel like all of rivers episodes should be two parters cause firstly you get more river and secondly all of her episodes include so many plots it would mean all of them could be explored fully before she teleports off and is seen at a completely different time 😂
A more fleshed-out two-part version of Nightmare in Silver could have been the best Cybermen story since Earthshock.
It funny on how many people watching MMPR were a bit annoyed at the back-to-back multi-parters after Rita returns to the show and which carried in the third season. And now folks are complaining that Doctor Who after season 6 had less two parters episode.
I definitely agree with this list, so many missed opportunities. But what episodes would be sacrificed in favour?
Well this list just goes to show that we all have different tastes. Kill the moon as a two parter....would rather it had been a 0 parter
It's been a few episodes, what happened to the opening with the TARDIS sound?
I couldn't agree more about the Power of Three. I remember when this episode aired, I was absolutely on the edge of my seat. It was legitimately one of the most compelling stories of Who I had ever seen - having been in it right from the start of New Who.
When the horribly rushed conclusion came and the credits rolled, I just said... "oh."
I just couldn't believe such an incredible set-up could have such a lame conclusion that absolutely sunk this incredibly promising episode into mediocrity.
I feel all these problems could've been fixed if it had been a two-parter. This would've also given more time for a more fleshed-out and less contrived conclusion. Imagine if this episode had been like "Midnight" and the nature of these cubes was never revealed, but rather the human race had to work together to clear this pest, but there was an uneven amount of resources in each country to remove them, leading to wars between countries to develop this anti-cube.... oh wait this is covid. Still, would've been a MUCH better story than the one we got. It's such a shame that a story with so much potential was just tossed out the window like that.
Theory: Jenny ended up regenerating then years and many lives later ended up meeting the 11th Doctor who saved her life at the same time she met and later married the love of her life, a silurian that we all know and love, yeah you know who I mean.
please rank ALL two-parters
JUST PLEASE
I too think that Jenny should have had more screentime in Doctor Who. And, tbh, I was quite happy seeing her in a couple of episodes of Torchwood again. So, basically, she got more than just one appearance and did have more impact and character depth than you mentioned (just no in the main show but a spinoff).
- The Wedding of River Song
- Face the Raven
Maybe the Time of the Doctor was a 2 parter but it relied too heavily on the Silence and we forgot it. That is why it might have felt like it was fast forwarded. 😉
Just about every story should have been two partners, the show used to be a serial, adventures went for up to 2 or 3 hours in the early days, but when you try and condense a serial into single episodes the ideas are always going to feel cramped and underdeveloped and also it means they chew up way more stories than the original series did cos they dont spend any time developing them which in turn makes you feel like youre watching alot of unexplored stories that are spat out and dispensed with before you can get invested properly in them.
Revolution of the Daleks needed one it was so rushed
It was a special but I agree
I would never think about this because i thought all episodes were fine. But your right
Ratehr than the doctor's daughter being a two parter, jenny should have reappaered at some point. I don't know why she never did.
Yes! She should have had a spin off that would have been awesome
@@jkel6564 She got a Big Finish spinoff
@@blobfish5730 oh yeah true although I would also love to have seen an actual tv show
I don't know about a two-parter, but several of these would definitely benefit from extended episodes of a full hour+ over the usual 40-45m runtimes.
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yes there is! daily motion is a video sharing site. I have a spreadsheet with links for nearly every episode of classic who (from the beginning), i’ll drop the link here for you :)
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Skipped through and realized you hadn't included 'The Eaters of Light' a nearly great episode with wonderful locations which then has loads of plot development happen off camera when the doctor is in a different temporal flow, so it is told not shown. It then hurriedly kills off half developed characters whom we've hardly met and expects us to mourn them. Classic "We ran out of budget" stuff (probably resulting in the awful 'Empress of Mars' as a studio bound filler).
The most annoying thing about the last Matt episode is that all other doctors have had a two parter for their send off
Shame they never did the other series with matt like they intended on.
Same for 12
Please do an alternate Doctor video.
The ending for Power of Three was so disappointing. I was literally sitting there like WTF, is that it.
it’s mostly cause the guy who played Shakri was a dickhead and insulted the entire cast so Moffat forced Chibs to rewrite an ending to feature him less
Oh your all so negative, Doctor Who is always brilliant, these are some of my favourite episodes, what is wrong with you all.
Some people are afflicted with discernment.
2: The power of Three
Need I say more?
Isn't it slightly telling that quite a few of these were Chibnall scripts? I have nothing against him but I do agree with the common complaint of rushed plots. The Ghost Monument and The Battle of Ranskoor Av Kolos defo could have been expanded better but I don't think Fugitive of the Judoon needed anymore time. Also, another Chibnall script The Power of Three I honestly wouldn't have wanted a part Two. It very much needed maybe an extra ten minutes to satisfyingly wrap up the plot but just how stretched out can that general conceit be? It gets a bit boring at times so two episodes of it would have been... Eh. And finally, The Time of the Doctor was gonna be a whole series, Smith just decided to leave (Which he later regretted) so Moffat condensed it into one special.
On Jenny:
Just how complex do you expect a character to be at just two days old? Not very!
Hell I've never been so early
The Name of The Doctor deserves it too!
Stories that should be a one parter Magician's Apprentice/Witches Familiar and Daleks in Manhattan/Evolution of the Daleks
@Ben Warburton 100%, plus the ones with the Slitheen, Sontarans, Doppelgangers
Didn't realise Steve Pemberton was in doctor who
Thought the ghost monument was stretching a story too much. Personally speaking. Thought the ''space crawly'' episode was a bit much after ''apollo 18'' came out. Wedding of river song part 2 would either be a totally different story expanding on ''the center of time'', or a likely rather dull where'd she go after the library ? 🙄 Judoon probably is judoon for space rhino police ; ju - do - o(o)n . Power of 3 was booooorrriing, he could've popped in, said ''I got this, Relax!'' and left .
I never really liked Sleep No More. I don’t know why but I’ve just never liked the story. But I might give it another watch now
I think you’ll like Harbo wholemes defending the despised of sleep no more.
Ironically it makes me fall asleep
@@lewimillionzYT lol
I always felt Let's Kill Hitler would have been much better as a two parter. Introducing Mels for the very first time and then immediately having her turn into River seemed shallow when Mels hadn't been sprinkled into the show previously. Didn't give me any feels at all when she regenerated.
Wait. The Battle of Ranksor as Colonoscopy had a plot?
I would love to see an episode with the Doctors daughter where we see she has created her own Galifrey with clones of herself just like she was cloned from the Doctor.
That's a really stupid idea
@@themostbritishpersonalive868 it’s not though. Most aliens in Doctor Who branch of and create their own civilisations. Which makes it annoying when each time Galifrey is destroyed all Galifreyians don’t seem to exist anymore.
At this point, just make Will the DW director--- seriously though, Doctor Who would be so much better :')
i’m sorry but matt smiths last episode was anazing
I agree with all of these.
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