I bought them after watching this video. I bought 5 IEM's thinking.... maybe IEM's just suck. They all seemed to have high upper mids that KILLED my ability to listen to them. I bought these on your recommend and based on the recording you had. I got the KQZ x HBB and Tangzu x Divinus Fudu Verse 1. I didn't hate the KQZ HBB, but I didn't really love them either. The Fudu is the best one so far. FINALLY something that doesn't kill my ears. I like them a lot. I can't see myself spending 2k on the Fatfreq, I just can't justify 2k for tiny speakers.
I skipped through your sound demos at work and thought how geneious. I can just listen to the IEM's instead of watching as many opinions as I can. Had already ordered the Tangzu Waner and the KZ PR2 bevore I found your channel. Was looking for something upmarket to round out my collection. I listened to most of your list. When I played the Fudu I had an instant reaction to it. It sounded just great to me. Warm but with depth and clarity where it Is needed. Intimate but with enough stage at the same time. I looked for it, found out it was on sale and got it for 80. Only after I watched your reaction to find you really liked it too. Thx you gave me exactly what I was looking for. Definetly a well earned sub. 😊
Downsides to FUDU: It isn’t perfect. It isn’t bright. It may be too warm for many tastes. But among the warm sets, it is my top pick right now for enjoying warmth. WARNINGS: if you fear warm sounds, like you’re going to miss the details that the warmth covers up, then DONT get this! YOU WON'T LIKE IT! MP145 Note to elaborate: When I say “the bass has texture,” it may be that the upper mids variance gives rise to upper harmonics of low end primary tones, possibly. Instruments across the board change in character when their harmonics across the range are messed with. Working on fixing cable knocking noises. No, I don’t think “stay on track” comes from track editors haha.
I have been using Wa'ner since it's launch, need an upgrade. I'm confused between Hexa and Vudu Verse 1. I like little bright (not KZ/CCA like) and Sub-bass focus IEM's because most of my playlist consists of Rock/Metal.
Something that's worthy of note is that these IEM's transformed entirely after changing to a balanced cable (I use a Tripowin Zonie). The spiky treble was gone, as well as the muddy bass that bled into the mids. I have never seen such a huge change from a cable switch before.
Dan, you’ve come a long way since your old videos, liked the old videos and definitely all the hard professional work you put in now in your videos. Thank you for thoroughly entertaining everyone.
Hi Dan, I am not new to this hobby yet the Fudu has found its way into my regular rotation. I love its overall sound signature. I’m a bit of a bass head if I say so myself. Your sound samples are so well done and are an invaluable asset to the community. I find the Fudu very addictive incredible bass and mid bass that I find missing in so many of the hyped iems. I have no need for the MP145 as I have the Fat Earth which is a modified S12 set by Micheal Bruce which is my number one set. Fat Earth is way more money though. The Fudu is number two which is a testament of how good the Fudu is. It would be interesting for you to review the Juzear Clear a $50 iem set that’s geared for us bass heads. 😊Please keep up the great work. Thank you..!
@@profound369 sorry for the late reply….first the Fat Earth is a tuning that is not for the faint of heart. You have to be a bass head like me to appreciate it. They are $300. The fact that the Fudu is part of the conversation is a testament to the Fudu.
@fiddlix apparently the mids are very recessed even though it's V Shaped the way they've recessed some of the peaks means it loses energy and excitement, unlike something like the QKZ X HBB, but if you want Legato bass for half price you know what to do
Legato is great for bass. I am a treble head, and I’ll take the Wan’ers over the HBB any day. That said, I am eyeballing Simgot’s HBB collab. All Tangzu IEMs are top notch! Like Moondrop and Simgot! ❤
2:00, Yes bass and treble will fatigue listener ears in a different way, bass fatigue is like a punches (it will fatigue with a pressure), treble fatigue is more like a needles in your ears 😁.
It is surprising how well HBB and Wan'Er perform compared to iems that are 4/5 times more expensive. MP145 and Verse are close, but I feel that Fudu vocals are more recessed and is overall more "compressed". I like the spaciality MP145 have, but it's true that it is edgier. Different flavours. Great review, as usual.
Hi Dan, gotta say: comparing different iems with you is my favorite exercise. Amazing that money is not everything here. I really don't fancy either Maestro SE or Qkz x Hbb. To my ears and preferences it almost sounds like everything is 'drowning' in bass. Waner on the other end seems to be missing a tad of bass that gives mp145 and fudu amazing texture and balance. They do sound similar, but maybe given mp145 planar driver it gets the upper hand in details and air which might get fatiguing, so I see the value of fudu. Mp145 seems a better set, but sometimes we are not in the mood for better, sometimes we just need good enough. Good enough balance, texture and the trade-off of slightly less details for less fatigue. Thank you.
I gotta agree with your statement, "the HBB... stands on its own two feet." I've tried IEMs and headphones up to around $350, from HD560s (my daily) to Sundaras to OH10's and Airpod Pros and Sennheiser 58X, DT 990s, DT 700 pro x, etc. etc... the HBB is just so unique. I thought I was a treble head for a while, but I started to become more and more interested in subbass, and finally in June of this year I finally was able to go to a concert for the first time since like 2018, way before I got into headphones as a hobby. Hearing my favorite artists (boygenius) and my favorite song (Graceland Too) live, really made me re-evaluate sound in headphones. People talk so much about having dead flat neutral headphones to perfectly recreate the artists intentions, but... have they been to a concert? The bass is POWERFUL. Boygenius is a fully natural instrumentation show, the only bass comes from guitars and drums, and the thump and rumble that I felt deep in my chest, in an outdoor amphitheater, completely turned upside down my sound signature preferences. Since then, I've EQ's my HD560s to really boost subbass to harman levels, tame the treble just a touch, add a touch more air, and it's quite close to the live experience. BUT THE HBB's MAN. It's just a HAIR too much bass to sound exactly like the live performance, but good god it's close. It's so shocking how natural and engaging they are for $20. For me, I don't know if they can be beaten. The FUDU here, its sound signature honestly sounds similar to how I've EQ'd my headphones. Which are $200 btw, and I bought a $200 amp/dac. You can use those for $90 with like a $10 dongle and be set.
I found Waner had a tad shouty upper mids. Seems like Fudu has smoother upper mids, but it sounds like MP145 is even smoother here? Also bigger soundstage and more extension on MP145. Fudu a bit warmer. Thanks for this upload, great as usual!!
Brilliant review Dan. What a well-tuned set. For the Verse 2, would love it to tweak the Verse 1 with a slightly grander soundstage/air (the only part of the Hidz I preferred), whilst maintaining its wonderful clean balance and timbre. Ps Totally agree re the influence of mood/signatures and other factors. I'll throw in another... your library. If you have an eclectic library, every iem I've owned has something magical about them.
Really interesting insight particularly when addressing price points and sound preferences, Dan. My ears still gravitate to that hyper lush QKZ HBB sound, so for Black Friday I'm going to go with them (plus W1 ear tips and a better cable). I'm still undecided on whether I like the S12pros, or the Fudus better, and am still considering saving up for some Maestro SEs. For now (until I make up my mind), I think the QKZ HBBs will do me just fine for casual music listening and on-the-go movie watching.
Dan your videos are so soothing and you've led me to some new beautiful music, great taste! Just opened my FUDU and listening. Still not sold on Waner. I'm a basshead with expanding tastes so I gave it a 2nd shot and ending up spending days tip rolling and modding; even cable rolled despite rarely noticing differences with cable changes. I realized recently that my Dac settings were preset so I'm going to give the stock sound a 3rd chance. I actually usually enjoy forward mids but Waner hurts my ears. I bought the green one which looks nice so let's see...
Hi Dan, Thank you for your review and your insight is invaluable. Demos are very useful as well. I actually came to Fudu after comparing it with P1 max demo and I felt they Fudu are more closer to P1 max than MP 145, but I am listening on Sundara and Sundara's roll off in sub bass might impact my opinion. I was basically torn between Fudu and P1 max and went with Fudu based on this video Will let you know how it sounds
crazy thing about listening to your demos is after a while you stop hearing the iems and just go okay that's how it sounds then click another and go ohh that sounds weird. then after a while are like oh so that's the song sounds, its only when you do quick comparisons do you even really notice the iem and it can be hard to determine a preference.
The Fudu is a great set at any price... You are not wrong...I have and have owned sets 8x the price that don't sound as pleasing as the Fudu for long enjoyable sessions...I was basically gifted it and it caught me by surprise...I didn't even know what it was...I started listening and I was taken back....I was like "oh shit"....Dan review the Fiio JD7... It's more fatiguing than the Fudu but it sounds sooo full... The song at 22:35 is amazing.
@@dansaudioreviews the final comparison against the Maestro SE was impressive for such a price difference. The Maestro is better but it's impressive what $90 can accomplish.
to my subjective ears, fudu sounds more "closed" than mp145 that sounds cleaner and more "open", waner's sounds really nice for $16 ( though at 33:51 i hear that the bass saturates so there are no miracles). qkz hbb and maestro se sounds too dark and muffled (no sparkle, no air) so my rating from ear in this video is mp145>fudu>waner>maestro>qkz. how does fudu compares with olina ?
I feel like the 145 is more open and spacious but somehow i prefer the vocal especially male vocal on the Fudu. Nevertheless, thank you for another amazing comparison video. I really enjoy the bass treat i got from each iem featured here. ❤
I came back to this comparison wearing the KZ Castors, just to see how I would like the sound compared to my sets of the MP145, S12, Hexa. Honestly, for the money...hell...regardless of the price, they are really good. Coupled with the tuning switches, my goodness...for only $15...it's a compelling IEM IMHO. They were surprising enjoyable, so I threw some more money at the improved bass version and the CCA Rhapsody. This ChiFi hobby is getting ridiculously affordable.
Based on this demo, for me the mp145 is the winner, vocals sound mor enatural more lush, Fudu vocals and cymbals can sound thin at times. QKZ Hbb can hold its own, just lacks separation and extra bite in the snares. Waner sounds like a pair of cheap earbuds you get in the airplane for free.
The only con with the hbb…the fit. Tempted to throw a .78 flat 2 pin on it rather than the tripowin qdc I’ve got on it now. Qdc doesn’t like my big ears. I had to do that with my em6l, because it just kept getting pulled out of my ears, now it’s the iem I go for 90% of the time. Great for metal, great for gaming and great for general content consumption. Also warm and lush, but also effected by impedance to make it the opposite depending on source and cable measurement.
Great review! And wonderful music set (Plini - one love). Completely agree about those temporary states of mind when one iem is better than other in some particular way. And it's always great to find "endgame of the week" which perfoms well in any genre, any time of the day or any mood. For me those were: Hook-x, Jq 4u pro, Heyday, and now the Orchestra Lite and Tanchjim One in budget sector.
You should check out the em6l too, that’s my all rounder. It has fantastic imaging and separation which lends well to busy music like metal. Also you can listen loud without crying out in pain. Spinfit w1.
The MP145 makes me feel like I'm listening in on a recording session in a pro studio. In contrast, the Fudu is beautifully blunted presentation for a wider audience/ like as more polished compressed sound.
Despite my usual tooing & frooing for weeks on end. Over gears strengths & weaknesses. I pulled the trigger on the Fudu's straight after your review Dan. I really like my Wan'ers but when they 'breakdown' in complex, busy tracks. I just know I have to spend a bit more money to get the sound I want.
@@juliuscharan3690 for me? I really like them. The Fudu's are unspectacular in sound and appearance. But, they just get out of the way, and let you enjoy your music. Your way. With supreme comfort. If the Fudu's were a person. They'd be the guy, your friend. Who's cooler than you. Has a prettier girlfriend. Is better at at pool. But never brags. Is always humble. But you know he's got your back. Solid. Dependable, and fun to be with.
Based on your recording here, the MP145 bass sounds spatial, dimensional and at times holographic, "Sorry" give me the chill. Fudu sounds good but I am giving it a miss.
For me…. Listening to this review on an iPhone 7s through its speakers about 10” from my face- Anthony kedis’ vocals through the 145 are like a separate thing… like 3D When you cut back to the Fudu, it pulls the Vox back into the mix- 🤔 They sound good!?… but definitely different. I’m going to own both. PS Dan… What are or where did you get, your glasses frames
They are so similar in low end balance and general processes occurring in the upper end, that I’m not surprised at all that one would find joy in both’s unique interpretations or deviations from one another in their upper regions. I am tempted myself to suggest people have both if they like one or the other.
what i think is going on in this case is that the fudu has cleaned up some uppermidslowhighs that most others want to excite and often overexcite and crowd the stereo image for atmospherics and stuff which can also be a source of fatigue. and with it pulled back maybe you enjoy a bit more negative space and instrument separation ease
I couldn’t wait to watch this video on my setup.. anddd my thoughts : I like the Fudu More than mp145 because it had rounded bass..(just don’t know how to explain it) clarity wise both of em are good…(until you hear an end game IEM lol) but i think i feel like mo145 is 0.1% muffled… so i like Fudu a lil bit more.. but both of em are better than HBB and Wan Er(i actually like HBB more than Wan Er because Wan Er belongs in a Different Category) BUT HBBs Price To performance is insane.. Recommendations (Requests) - You should add More Iems to comparison like Recently Reviewed S12 Pro / Ikko OH10 / Mest MKii (just asking) Great Review As Always Dan ❤️❤️🩹
Appreciate you 🙇🏻♂️ I do often like to include recent reviewed stuff in new reviews. But, the wind blew a different way when I made this video I guess! I felt like focusing more squarely on warm gear. There was just so much to show from the different instruments on the tracks, and wanting to give more time to listen to a more limited selection of competitors. But yea, I had an urge to include the s12 pro somewhere, but instead only mentioned how people could explore on their own if they like, using the demos.
@@dansaudioreviews hey i get it.. great review btw.. waiting for the next... did you do the aful performer 5? i watched the demo... im asking the review?
H Dan. Love your channel. such a breath of fresh air compared to the standard reviews. I've been using the QKZ HBB for a couple of years and as a result of this comparison, bought the FUDU and am very happy with them. I've just ordered a set of MEZE Alba, as I have their 99 Classics headphones and like their house sound. Would you ever consider reviewing the Alba's?
loved the purchase so much thank u so much for helping with the decision. If u were to look for an eq on peace what would u go for? appreciate any outside help
MP145 and the FUDU are really neck and neck, MP145 has a bit more clarity but the FUDU vocals don’t sound like they’re lagging behind that much and that bass make me feel like I’d really enjoy the FUDU more with my library
in a noncollector audiophile scenario - while it is true that perception-taste shifts around all the time; i think there is still a personal HRTF dragon to chase in the sense that, the more you approximate the "correct" tonal shaping for your canal and averaged library, like closest to baseline in terms of the experiential oscillation, the jumps in perception for that one set are diminished, and then flavoring can be achieved with very broad shelves
Great review Dan. I have questions though, In terms of layering and instrument separation, which one is better? The fudu or mp145? and does the mp145 hard to drive? Thank you!
How do you find these compared to the Z300? Is the step up worth it? It's about double the price where I live. Been pretty split, some say they're too close in sound quality, others say the Fudu is considerably better. Would love to get your input!
dan what do you think about the 8ba kiwi ears orchestra lite or you prefer de A performer 5? want a good iems around 250$ or you think fudu or hexa are much better value?
taking a break frrom my ej07m kinda lavas and looikng at the budget market. after listening to these for a few minutes they are vey impressive but way too much bass bleeding into the mids so i cut 250hz by 3db and it really brings out the mids much clearer. i can really feel that bass while maintining a very clear and resolving overall sound. l overall amazing value. (Edit changed it to 200hz. Not an audible difference for me but from looking at the freq measurement seems to be a better place)
Really enjoyed what FUDU does here, compared to the others. Got the HBB partly because of these here vids, so thank you again, and man I am happy that i got it. Might need to grab this set in the future!
Also i don't know if it's like that IRL, but it seems to me, based on this here vid, that it's actually the Maestro that is clearly on the upgrade path of the HBB. At least to me.
Completely agree. The Fudu is a cracking IEM. Not just it's tuning but for me, it's timbre is 100% correct. Listen back to the Plini track (GRT test track choice btw) and just compare what happens to the snare, hats and cymbals across each comparison (equally the guitar plucks and bass guitar snaps) but most importantly the snare drum, and each alone illustrates just how correct the timbre is on the Fudu. The snare on the Hidizs sounds slack, whispy and more like a shaker compared to it's proper attack and hit through the Fudu. Superb IEM. Tangzu deserve the praise. This set should def be getting more hype.
While I do see enjoyment in the HIDIZS take on the upper end for what it offers in different flavor, the FUDU is indeed my gold standard starter without ANY fatigue why still giving a super natural sound. Fantastic.
timbre wise, it's easier for me to tell which is the "right" timbre from drum track rather than vocal track because drums are contain wider wave spectrum than vocals. In this comparison i think tangzu fudu has "better" timbre
Hello Dan, love your work, been passing too much time listening to your sound demos lately 😅. Do you heared the celeste phonexicall ? Saw everything and its opposite, would love to hear your thaught on it. Continue what youre doing, we lovin it 👍
The QKZ x HBB is weird because I feel it's way too warm for me, but _every time_ I listen to them or hear them in your demos, my mind is like, "yeah, that's nice" haha As far as the Divinus goes, it's currently on what looks like a clearance sale for $72 on Amazon and I'm champing at the bit to get it just to use it as a reason to clear out my collection. Speaking of the demos...I've only just now realized how bad the intonation is on Flea's bass throughout the Chili Pepper's song. It was nearing unbearable as it switched across different units lol
Been looking for a decent set with a warmer tuning, was trying to get hold of the hbb khan but Linsoul say they have no more stock and no more being made 😢 After seeing your review I think I’ve found a decent alternative to complement my S12 pro and KATO, thanks 🙏 think I’ll swap out the cable though, picked up a tripowin noire to keep with the monochromatic theme 😎
EDX ProX $3 vs T10... Almost identical, sound and graph, differences in sound seem to be only due to planar vs DD. I'm happy to have both and I'm pretty sure I haven't been able to pick my jaw off the floor regarding the ProX.
Great review, Dan. What are your thoughts on FUDU compared to the OH10? I personally go back and forth between the OH10 (bass), Timeless (dynamics!), and S12 pro (smooth/detailed/sparkly). Thought this would fit in nicely as my easy listening set so I bought it. The OH10 also combining dynamic and balanced armature drivers seems like a nice basis for comparison. I get my FUDU today! Pumped!
I have both the OH10 and the Timeless and they are in my top3 IEMs that I listen to. I am intrigued by the FUDU and would also like know how the FUDU compares
@@ThisIsRick So I've had them for a few days now. I think Dan's analysis is spot-on in regards to the lack of fatigue. The bass is powerful, but not overpowering if that makes sense. It tames some of the treble without losing too much of the space. I think it will fit nicely with my collection. Comparing to the OH10, it seems a bit more balanced if a bit less detailed. To illustrate by comparing to loudspeakers, I think the OH10 feels like a speaker and discrete sub, while the FUDU seems more like a two way speaker with a great woofer. It feels more put together. With the OH10 being twice the price it is still better, but I'm not sure it's two times better. Timeless still tops both in my mind, but I feel like I can relax more with FUDU or OH10. (I've fallen asleep with the FUDU the past two days... lol)
@@danjbry Thanks for the detailed reply. And thanks for including OH10 in you response because I own those and have a better feel for what your experience is.
My perception listening in my IEM, FUFU and M145 is too close, in Sorry, M145 looks has more and best Bass, both are open and wide. Listening QKZxHBB ou Wan'er looks claustrophobic, sort of.
Hey Dan! I hope you get the chance to try the Chu 2. My friend has the CHU but I dunno, they always sounded boring and dry to me. However, the Chu 2 sound amazing! Plenty of nice bass, very good energy and detail in the mids and highs. In mi opinion, the Chu 2 are the entry level kings!
there is objectively better iems ( measures better, lower distortion etc) then subjectively better ( I like this sound the most etc) what I find really weird is that there are iems priced for 1000s and people swear by them and I'm sure they are good don't get me wrong. but I feel in a blind test against a more budget iem of similar tuning I doubt they would really be able to pick out 100% of the time as tuning is probably the most noticeable difference between iems with technicalities being second and much harder to compare.
Hi@@dansaudioreviews Update: I've received the earphones and I find the sound perfect for my criteria: non-fatiguing with sufficiently detailed sound, comfortable and with excellent eartips included. Only the cable could be a little be better, but for the price paid (€60) during BF sales, I'm just nitpicking. Greetings from France, keep up the good work ! ;-)
Hi Dan, I bought the TinHifi T3 Plus (partly due to your great review on it) and have been using it for a while. I'm a fan of its 'fun' sound signature with very forward-sounding vocal and decent bass. My preference for bass is higher than most reviewers, I like something with at least similar or more bass as the T3+. You seem to like the T3 Plus a lot more than what the other reviewers did, so I feel like maybe my preferences, compared to the other reviewers, are more similar to yours. I've heard mixed opinions about the Fudu's bass, some people also say the vocal is less forward, and the sound is unengaging and too 'easy' to listen too which might be less 'fun'. But since you seem to really like it, I'm wondering what do you think of it as an upgrade for the T3 Plus based on my preferences. Or do you have other preferences at similar price point? I'd really appreciate it if you'd reply.
The Fudu to me is not an upgrade. It’s rather a uniquely and emphatically warm IEM to be used in a rotation of other gear. The T3+ doesn’t approach those levels of warm, but instead has a more overall balanced approach, comparatively. I would see the Fudu as a companion to the T3+, not an upgrade or replacement.
@@dansaudioreviews I see, then I won't consider getting the Fudu. I don't have the budget to purchase many iems to try, so when I wanna upgrade, I wanna choose one with guaranteed significant improvement rather than purchasing many models for small upgrades. For example I've tried my friend's truthear zero red with the impedance adapter, I found the bass stronger and punchier but the vocal a bit less forward, it feels like a small side-grade for me so I wouldn't buy it. I also don't have access to an iem store to try them out physically, so I've to rely on opinions of someone like you. So I'd really appreciate it if you could suggest me iem(s) that you think would be a great upgrade for me based on my preferences in sound. The sound is my top priority so feel free to suggest the best option(s) in your opinion regardless for price. Thanks!
Hi @dansaudioreviews, love your videos. I was wondering how do these compare to the 7hz Timeless and LETSHUOER S12 Pro? Which one would be your favorite?
FUDU has such welcome ease to it without losing a sense of natural sound somehow. I’m really really digging it right now in any mood or time so far. Easy listen with a perspective of detail present. The Timeless is hard to touch for its own extreme dynamism and sense of clarity. It will probably hold its position for awhile as doing something of the best for what it’s doing at this price. Still, it has fatiguing aspects to the treble at times. The S12 Pro is probably a pretty good middle ground of flavors. It relaxes up a bit while still trying to offer brightness for “clarity” feelings. But it isn’t as easy as the FUDU and isn’t as dynamic and crystal clear as the timeless. It’ll come down to personal preference along that spectrum, and quite possibly down to your own ear’s upper mids/treble gain, and people’s own age related hearing losses. I can see a varied experience among people here, as to which one they feel they love when they listen. I’m currently loving FUDU, but that could also be novelty that eventually changes. Time will tell for sure, but it has those wonderful qualities that it presents and I’m still down for it.
@@dansaudioreviews Thanks a lot for taking the time to reply in such great detail, really appreciate it. I understand what you mean by changing your opinion after some time for a certain IEM, actually I think it was the case with you with the Moondrop Aria (initially it amazed you, then after some time I can't even see it on the new lists). But anyway, it would be a great idea maybe for a review video with a comparison (with demos) of the top favorite ones like the above mentioned , plus the T3+ and the MEST etc. Btw, I just supported you on Patreon, I enjoy your videos so wishing you even more success in the future.
I saw! Thank you so much 🙇🏻♂ I was actually just thinking about doing an entry-level video. "Top picks new audiophiles" sort of thing. I think I need to revisit the T3+, the HBB, FUDU... I'm not sure yet exactly how to approach it, but I know there's something there worth exploring.@@kiretube
Different profile, but I do prefer to recommend it now as a start in the hobby. Plus I do think it holds up more as a potential part of a rotation for the person with more gear on hand.
Oh great question. Very tough to say for sure. Maybe the unique melody MEST MKI shares its bright and balanced leanings. I’d have to think about this one more perhaps though. I mean there’s plenty of bright IEMs, like Moondrop products, but those that deliver that beautiful perception of a wide staging, and without severe fatigue? Harder to find that.
I think fatiguing comes from cleanliness. I got hola, fudu(4.4mm), qkz x hbb, tri i3pro and hd660s. I got the hidizs dh80s (have had zendac v2 and btr5) and my sources vary inbetween macbook air m1, ipad mini 6 and samsung s23. My fav combos for relaxed listening are ipad mini 6 + dh80s + hola or macbook air m1 + dh80s + sennheiser hd660s. The rest is too clean, these forementioned combos sounds like as if some harmonic distortions r introduced to the sound so they sound musical and non-fatiguing. I am a nitpicking stereo system audiophile actually. Oh and one thing that is standing out about fudu is that there isn't a second pair that I heard that plays music in your brain like this. You definitely feel the music is being reproduced in your head and you r not listening through your ears. And I adore that hidizs dh80s is making the instruments 3d with a tad bit of sweetness to it. I would take dh80s over btr5 and zendac v2 anyday of the week. And this is my 2 cents. (Mic drop)😅
Hi Dan, i am the owner of the QKZ X HBB and love it so much, especially with my eq in Wavelet (little less sub and mid bass and a bit more high in the 4 and 6khz notes). I received today the Fudu with the 3.5mm and to be honest i think i do not really hear a upgrade in sound quality, also not after some tip rolling, i am just curious how you think about these 2 iems, thanks.
Not an upgrade. They’re just two different profiles. The curves are different. I think someone could prefer the HBB over the FUDU, if that’s the taste and mood they’re on. The FUDU is certainly a warm set. You have to be in that headspace. The HBB actually gives some upper end detail that the FUDU brings down. I don’t think FUDU is going to be people’s core IEM in a rotation, but rather something to listen to when warm is sought after. It has the downside of not having the most detail. And if that is something a person can’t handle losing…well it’s gonna feel bad. But, I suggest trying it at different times of day or on different days. I don’t think it needs time to “burn in,” as sometimes people attribute longer ownership to helping improve the sound with. I think this set may just be good sometimes, and not what I want in others. If they don’t allow you to find joy, even after trying at different times and moods…I’m so sorry 😞 My usual recommendations almost always, or always really, have more apparent upper end presence. This is a rare time for me too then that I found joy in something with a bit less. It’s a wild departure.
@@dansaudioreviews wow, now that is what i call a reply! That is why you are one of my favourite Tubers Dan👍🏻 I do know i like warm sounding iem's but with just a bit of detail, the Sonus and Simgot EW200 where a bit too bright for me so i am thinking of trying 2 more iem's that were on my list. The Simgot EM6L and the Kiwi ears Quartet, are those capable contenders?
I have so much going on and a memory that’s too poor to tell you with confidence what I think of them. I probably last heard them weeks ago. I’m sorry! But one day there will be reviews of kiwi ears stuff and Simgot stuff
@@dansaudioreviews i am looking forward to that Dan, i am now trying to create a list of nice warm sounding iem’s around the $80 to $120. There has to exist some kind of iem that is being considered as an upgrade from the original QKZ X HBB.
Whatever you are used to and familiar with. But yea, I do like a flatter profile right now, with a bright lean to pick up on small differences I often find important to pick up on the upper end. I currently wear the HD800S when I make my commentary. Though I do of course have direct personal listening experience that primarily serves me to know what I’m speaking toward. The HD800S monitoring I do is just to remind me of aspects I heard in the response during normal listening prior to making my commentary. I’m going to start trying to use the TANGZU FUDU though. Idk how well it fairs for what I’m used to listening in for though. I’ll have to see. But it seems like it should do a good job.
I think the fudu is a great buy from that point. Yes! Though the Wan’er may still end up being oddly nice for jazz. I loved it one night while trying jazz on it. Could be more great experiences the Wan’er uniquely provides in its own way too. But yea, for now I’d simply say the FUDU is a well worth upgrade path.
I don’t know where you would find the next level for the FUDU’s flavor profile. You’ll find deep bass and wide staging from the Maestro SE, for example, but with the cost of going into a very different flavor profile in the upper mids and behavior of the bass.
I bought them after watching this video. I bought 5 IEM's thinking.... maybe IEM's just suck. They all seemed to have high upper mids that KILLED my ability to listen to them. I bought these on your recommend and based on the recording you had. I got the KQZ x HBB and Tangzu x Divinus Fudu Verse 1. I didn't hate the KQZ HBB, but I didn't really love them either. The Fudu is the best one so far. FINALLY something that doesn't kill my ears. I like them a lot. I can't see myself spending 2k on the Fatfreq, I just can't justify 2k for tiny speakers.
Why not go for Blon x z jojo or Seeaudio rinko one of them is warm and other one is agressively bass heavy. Maybe one of them might suit you
I skipped through your sound demos at work and thought how geneious. I can just listen to the IEM's instead of watching as many opinions as I can. Had already ordered the Tangzu Waner and the KZ PR2 bevore I found your channel. Was looking for something upmarket to round out my collection. I listened to most of your list. When I played the Fudu I had an instant reaction to it. It sounded just great to me. Warm but with depth and clarity where it Is needed. Intimate but with enough stage at the same time. I looked for it, found out it was on sale and got it for 80. Only after I watched your reaction to find you really liked it too. Thx you gave me exactly what I was looking for. Definetly a well earned sub. 😊
Man, this FUDU goes toe to toe with MP145. For me, some tracks goes for one and some goes to the other. Oh, QKZ x HBB still holds his own nowadays.
Downsides to FUDU:
It isn’t perfect. It isn’t bright. It may be too warm for many tastes. But among the warm sets, it is my top pick right now for enjoying warmth.
WARNINGS: if you fear warm sounds, like you’re going to miss the details that the warmth covers up, then DONT get this! YOU WON'T LIKE IT!
MP145 Note to elaborate:
When I say “the bass has texture,” it may be that the upper mids variance gives rise to upper harmonics of low end primary tones, possibly.
Instruments across the board change in character when their harmonics across the range are messed with.
Working on fixing cable knocking noises.
No, I don’t think “stay on track” comes from track editors haha.
I have been using Wa'ner since it's launch, need an upgrade.
I'm confused between Hexa and Vudu Verse 1.
I like little bright (not KZ/CCA like) and Sub-bass focus IEM's because most of my playlist consists of Rock/Metal.
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Something that's worthy of note is that these IEM's transformed entirely after changing to a balanced cable (I use a Tripowin Zonie). The spiky treble was gone, as well as the muddy bass that bled into the mids. I have never seen such a huge change from a cable switch before.
Dan, you’ve come a long way since your old videos, liked the old videos and definitely all the hard professional work you put in now in your videos.
Thank you for thoroughly entertaining everyone.
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Hi Dan, I am not new to this hobby yet the Fudu has found its way into my regular rotation. I love its overall sound signature. I’m a bit of a bass head if I say so myself. Your sound samples are so well done and are an invaluable asset to the community. I find the Fudu very addictive incredible bass and mid bass that I find missing in so many of the hyped iems. I have no need for the MP145 as I have the Fat Earth which is a modified S12 set by Micheal Bruce which is my number one set. Fat Earth is way more money though. The Fudu is number two which is a testament of how good the Fudu is. It would be interesting for you to review the Juzear Clear a $50 iem set that’s geared for us bass heads. 😊Please keep up the great work. Thank you..!
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How much is the fat earth?
@@profound369 sorry for the late reply….first the Fat Earth is a tuning that is not for the faint of heart. You have to be a bass head like me to appreciate it. They are $300. The fact that the Fudu is part of the conversation is a testament to the Fudu.
@fiddlix apparently the mids are very recessed even though it's V Shaped the way they've recessed some of the peaks means it loses energy and excitement, unlike something like the QKZ X HBB, but if you want Legato bass for half price you know what to do
Legato is great for bass. I am a treble head, and I’ll take the Wan’ers over the HBB any day. That said, I am eyeballing Simgot’s HBB collab. All Tangzu IEMs are top notch! Like Moondrop and Simgot! ❤
2:00, Yes bass and treble will fatigue listener ears in a different way, bass fatigue is like a punches (it will fatigue with a pressure), treble fatigue is more like a needles in your ears 😁.
Warm audio is my FAVORITE sound signature. I LOVE this video. Thank you!!!
It is surprising how well HBB and Wan'Er perform compared to iems that are 4/5 times more expensive. MP145 and Verse are close, but I feel that Fudu vocals are more recessed and is overall more "compressed". I like the spaciality MP145 have, but it's true that it is edgier. Different flavours. Great review, as usual.
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Planars have much better treble extension and fast transients. Although fudu is a hybrid. Em6l has fantastic extension and is a hybrid.
Hi Dan, gotta say: comparing different iems with you is my favorite exercise. Amazing that money is not everything here. I really don't fancy either Maestro SE or Qkz x Hbb. To my ears and preferences it almost sounds like everything is 'drowning' in bass. Waner on the other end seems to be missing a tad of bass that gives mp145 and fudu amazing texture and balance. They do sound similar, but maybe given mp145 planar driver it gets the upper hand in details and air which might get fatiguing, so I see the value of fudu. Mp145 seems a better set, but sometimes we are not in the mood for better, sometimes we just need good enough. Good enough balance, texture and the trade-off of slightly less details for less fatigue. Thank you.
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I gotta agree with your statement, "the HBB... stands on its own two feet." I've tried IEMs and headphones up to around $350, from HD560s (my daily) to Sundaras to OH10's and Airpod Pros and Sennheiser 58X, DT 990s, DT 700 pro x, etc. etc... the HBB is just so unique. I thought I was a treble head for a while, but I started to become more and more interested in subbass, and finally in June of this year I finally was able to go to a concert for the first time since like 2018, way before I got into headphones as a hobby. Hearing my favorite artists (boygenius) and my favorite song (Graceland Too) live, really made me re-evaluate sound in headphones. People talk so much about having dead flat neutral headphones to perfectly recreate the artists intentions, but... have they been to a concert? The bass is POWERFUL. Boygenius is a fully natural instrumentation show, the only bass comes from guitars and drums, and the thump and rumble that I felt deep in my chest, in an outdoor amphitheater, completely turned upside down my sound signature preferences. Since then, I've EQ's my HD560s to really boost subbass to harman levels, tame the treble just a touch, add a touch more air, and it's quite close to the live experience.
BUT THE HBB's MAN. It's just a HAIR too much bass to sound exactly like the live performance, but good god it's close. It's so shocking how natural and engaging they are for $20. For me, I don't know if they can be beaten. The FUDU here, its sound signature honestly sounds similar to how I've EQ'd my headphones. Which are $200 btw, and I bought a $200 amp/dac. You can use those for $90 with like a $10 dongle and be set.
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I found Waner had a tad shouty upper mids. Seems like Fudu has smoother upper mids, but it sounds like MP145 is even smoother here? Also bigger soundstage and more extension on MP145. Fudu a bit warmer. Thanks for this upload, great as usual!!
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Brilliant review Dan. What a well-tuned set. For the Verse 2, would love it to tweak the Verse 1 with a slightly grander soundstage/air (the only part of the Hidz I preferred), whilst maintaining its wonderful clean balance and timbre. Ps Totally agree re the influence of mood/signatures and other factors. I'll throw in another... your library. If you have an eclectic library, every iem I've owned has something magical about them.
Verse 2 will probably be either a totally opposite tunning or a planar
Really interesting insight particularly when addressing price points and sound preferences, Dan. My ears still gravitate to that hyper lush QKZ HBB sound, so for Black Friday I'm going to go with them (plus W1 ear tips and a better cable).
I'm still undecided on whether I like the S12pros, or the Fudus better, and am still considering saving up for some Maestro SEs. For now (until I make up my mind), I think the QKZ HBBs will do me just fine for casual music listening and on-the-go movie watching.
Dan your videos are so soothing and you've led me to some new beautiful music, great taste! Just opened my FUDU and listening. Still not sold on Waner. I'm a basshead with expanding tastes so I gave it a 2nd shot and ending up spending days tip rolling and modding; even cable rolled despite rarely noticing differences with cable changes. I realized recently that my Dac settings were preset so I'm going to give the stock sound a 3rd chance. I actually usually enjoy forward mids but Waner hurts my ears. I bought the green one which looks nice so let's see...
Hi Dan, Thank you for your review and your insight is invaluable. Demos are very useful as well. I actually came to Fudu after comparing it with P1 max demo and I felt they Fudu are more closer to P1 max than MP 145, but I am listening on Sundara and Sundara's roll off in sub bass might impact my opinion.
I was basically torn between Fudu and P1 max and went with Fudu based on this video
Will let you know how it sounds
thanks again for another amazing insight into warm audio, always an amazing watch man.
crazy thing about listening to your demos is after a while you stop hearing the iems and just go okay that's how it sounds then click another and go ohh that sounds weird. then after a while are like oh so that's the song sounds, its only when you do quick comparisons do you even really notice the iem and it can be hard to determine a preference.
The Fudu is a great set at any price... You are not wrong...I have and have owned sets 8x the price that don't sound as pleasing as the Fudu for long enjoyable sessions...I was basically gifted it and it caught me by surprise...I didn't even know what it was...I started listening and I was taken back....I was like "oh shit"....Dan review the Fiio JD7... It's more fatiguing than the Fudu but it sounds sooo full... The song at 22:35 is amazing.
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@@dansaudioreviews the final comparison against the Maestro SE was impressive for such a price difference. The Maestro is better but it's impressive what $90 can accomplish.
to my subjective ears, fudu sounds more "closed" than mp145 that sounds cleaner and more "open", waner's sounds really nice for $16 ( though at 33:51 i hear that the bass saturates so there are no miracles). qkz hbb and maestro se sounds too dark and muffled (no sparkle, no air) so my rating from ear in this video is mp145>fudu>waner>maestro>qkz. how does fudu compares with olina ?
I feel like the 145 is more open and spacious but somehow i prefer the vocal especially male vocal on the Fudu. Nevertheless, thank you for another amazing comparison video. I really enjoy the bass treat i got from each iem featured here. ❤
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This is a great approach to reviewing. You can really hear what you should expect from various options.
I love the hidizs mp145 by removing the foam. it is sounds expensive. Mp145 is very fun and enjoyable ❤
Love your analysis of iems and music.
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Your recordings and comparisons really stand out. That's on another level. Great job and thank you.
Those velvet tips are fantastic btw, I ordered the m and ml, both fit great. Slippery little nuggets lol.
I came back to this comparison wearing the KZ Castors, just to see how I would like the sound compared to my sets of the MP145, S12, Hexa. Honestly, for the money...hell...regardless of the price, they are really good. Coupled with the tuning switches, my goodness...for only $15...it's a compelling IEM IMHO. They were surprising enjoyable, so I threw some more money at the improved bass version and the CCA Rhapsody. This ChiFi hobby is getting ridiculously affordable.
Based on this demo, for me the mp145 is the winner, vocals sound mor enatural more lush, Fudu vocals and cymbals can sound thin at times. QKZ Hbb can hold its own, just lacks separation and extra bite in the snares. Waner sounds like a pair of cheap earbuds you get in the airplane for free.
The only con with the hbb…the fit. Tempted to throw a .78 flat 2 pin on it rather than the tripowin qdc I’ve got on it now. Qdc doesn’t like my big ears. I had to do that with my em6l, because it just kept getting pulled out of my ears, now it’s the iem I go for 90% of the time. Great for metal, great for gaming and great for general content consumption. Also warm and lush, but also effected by impedance to make it the opposite depending on source and cable measurement.
Great review! And wonderful music set (Plini - one love). Completely agree about those temporary states of mind when one iem is better than other in some particular way. And it's always great to find "endgame of the week" which perfoms well in any genre, any time of the day or any mood. For me those were: Hook-x, Jq 4u pro, Heyday, and now the Orchestra Lite and Tanchjim One in budget sector.
Yes! Thank you!
Tanchjim one surprised the hell out of me. I was expecting the same ole same ole, but what I got was a full body sound.
You should check out the em6l too, that’s my all rounder. It has fantastic imaging and separation which lends well to busy music like metal. Also you can listen loud without crying out in pain. Spinfit w1.
The MP145 makes me feel like I'm listening in on a recording session in a pro studio. In contrast, the Fudu is beautifully blunted presentation for a wider audience/ like as more polished compressed sound.
Listening to this with 7hz Timeless, it's amazing how little the differences are between the two. Definitely like the Fudu a little better.
I eliminated QKZ x HBB right away and quickly, planar is airy,
stick with S12pro.
Despite my usual tooing & frooing for weeks on end. Over gears strengths & weaknesses. I pulled the trigger on the Fudu's straight after your review Dan. I really like my Wan'ers but when they 'breakdown' in complex, busy tracks. I just know I have to spend a bit more money to get the sound I want.
so honest review how do you like them ?
@@juliuscharan3690 for me? I really like them. The Fudu's are unspectacular in sound and appearance. But, they just get out of the way, and let you enjoy your music. Your way. With supreme comfort. If the Fudu's were a person. They'd be the guy, your friend. Who's cooler than you. Has a prettier girlfriend. Is better at at pool. But never brags. Is always humble. But you know he's got your back. Solid. Dependable, and fun to be with.
@@dreddguy6454 lol that's some weird personisation
Based on your recording here, the MP145 bass sounds spatial, dimensional and at times holographic, "Sorry" give me the chill. Fudu sounds good but I am giving it a miss.
It's planar bass. Trust.
The bass on the recordings don't usually reflects reality it seems
For me…. Listening to this review on an iPhone 7s through its speakers about 10” from my face-
Anthony kedis’ vocals through the 145 are like a separate thing… like 3D
When you cut back to the Fudu, it pulls the Vox back into the mix- 🤔
They sound good!?… but definitely different.
I’m going to own both.
PS Dan…
What are or where did you get, your glasses frames
They are so similar in low end balance and general processes occurring in the upper end, that I’m not surprised at all that one would find joy in both’s unique interpretations or deviations from one another in their upper regions.
I am tempted myself to suggest people have both if they like one or the other.
I must admit these are keepers, three things to note build, weight, and easy to drive
Agreed. I've never had an iem that's this easy to drive.
what i think is going on in this case is that the fudu has cleaned up some uppermidslowhighs that most others want to excite and often overexcite and crowd the stereo image for atmospherics and stuff which can also be a source of fatigue. and with it pulled back maybe you enjoy a bit more negative space and instrument separation ease
I couldn’t wait to watch this video on my setup.. anddd my thoughts :
I like the Fudu More than mp145 because it had rounded bass..(just don’t know how to explain it) clarity wise both of em are good…(until you hear an end game IEM lol) but i think i feel like mo145 is 0.1% muffled… so i like Fudu a lil bit more.. but both of em are better than HBB and Wan Er(i actually like HBB more than Wan Er because Wan Er belongs in a Different Category) BUT HBBs Price To performance is insane..
Recommendations (Requests) - You should add More Iems to comparison like Recently Reviewed S12 Pro / Ikko OH10 / Mest MKii (just asking)
Great Review As Always Dan ❤️❤️🩹
Appreciate you 🙇🏻♂️
I do often like to include recent reviewed stuff in new reviews. But, the wind blew a different way when I made this video I guess! I felt like focusing more squarely on warm gear. There was just so much to show from the different instruments on the tracks, and wanting to give more time to listen to a more limited selection of competitors.
But yea, I had an urge to include the s12 pro somewhere, but instead only mentioned how people could explore on their own if they like, using the demos.
@@dansaudioreviews hey i get it.. great review btw.. waiting for the next... did you do the aful performer 5? i watched the demo... im asking the review?
H Dan. Love your channel. such a breath of fresh air compared to the standard reviews. I've been using the QKZ HBB for a couple of years and as a result of this comparison, bought the FUDU and am very happy with them. I've just ordered a set of MEZE Alba, as I have their 99 Classics headphones and like their house sound. Would you ever consider reviewing the Alba's?
I would consider reviewing anything. But, I need gear sent to me to even consider it. I don’t have that gear sent to me yet.
loved the purchase so much thank u so much for helping with the decision. If u were to look for an eq on peace what would u go for? appreciate any outside help
I think comfort plays a massive role in enjoyment.
MP145 and the FUDU are really neck and neck, MP145 has a bit more clarity but the FUDU vocals don’t sound like they’re lagging behind that much and that bass make me feel like I’d really enjoy the FUDU more with my library
in a noncollector audiophile scenario - while it is true that perception-taste shifts around all the time; i think there is still a personal HRTF dragon to chase in the sense that, the more you approximate the "correct" tonal shaping for your canal and averaged library, like closest to baseline in terms of the experiential oscillation, the jumps in perception for that one set are diminished, and then flavoring can be achieved with very broad shelves
i like Maestro SE very polished and deep bass
Yes!
I wonder how it compares to older models with the same driver configuration such as fiio fh3
Great review Dan. I have questions though, In terms of layering and instrument separation, which one is better? The fudu or mp145? and does the mp145 hard to drive? Thank you!
How do you find these compared to the Z300? Is the step up worth it? It's about double the price where I live. Been pretty split, some say they're too close in sound quality, others say the Fudu is considerably better. Would love to get your input!
dan what do you think about the 8ba kiwi ears orchestra lite or you prefer de A performer 5? want a good iems around 250$ or you think fudu or hexa are much better value?
GM ☕️
Take 2!
In my IEM’s stable ..I’ve got something that’s smooth ( in my ears) the SeeAudio Midnight’s 😉
Btw, digging the Lava Lamp 🪔
Morning! And ya!
taking a break frrom my ej07m kinda lavas and looikng at the budget market. after listening to these for a few minutes they are vey impressive but way too much bass bleeding into the mids so i cut 250hz by 3db and it really brings out the mids much clearer. i can really feel that bass while maintining a very clear and resolving overall sound. l overall amazing value. (Edit changed it to 200hz. Not an audible difference for me but from looking at the freq measurement seems to be a better place)
Wow!!! Fudu & MP145 my favourites 👍
I’d get the fudu, but the em6l is my jam right now. I don’t think it can top that.
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I gotta make a review of their stuff at some point. Or at least stars
Really enjoyed what FUDU does here, compared to the others. Got the HBB partly because of these here vids, so thank you again, and man I am happy that i got it. Might need to grab this set in the future!
Also i don't know if it's like that IRL, but it seems to me, based on this here vid, that it's actually the Maestro that is clearly on the upgrade path of the HBB. At least to me.
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Completely agree. The Fudu is a cracking IEM. Not just it's tuning but for me, it's timbre is 100% correct. Listen back to the Plini track (GRT test track choice btw) and just compare what happens to the snare, hats and cymbals across each comparison (equally the guitar plucks and bass guitar snaps) but most importantly the snare drum, and each alone illustrates just how correct the timbre is on the Fudu. The snare on the Hidizs sounds slack, whispy and more like a shaker compared to it's proper attack and hit through the Fudu. Superb IEM. Tangzu deserve the praise. This set should def be getting more hype.
While I do see enjoyment in the HIDIZS take on the upper end for what it offers in different flavor, the FUDU is indeed my gold standard starter without ANY fatigue why still giving a super natural sound. Fantastic.
Yeah the timbre is an astonishing achievement
Excited to get my mp145 to compare with my beloved timeless ae . Hopefully the kickstarter sets are the same as the review units……
Hi can u give us an update for your comparison of mp145 vs timeless ae?
timbre wise, it's easier for me to tell which is the "right" timbre from drum track rather than vocal track because drums are contain wider wave spectrum than vocals. In this comparison i think tangzu fudu has "better" timbre
odd that the x hbb, known to be pretty warm and smooth, actually sounds brighter than the fudu on some tracks.
Hello Dan, love your work, been passing too much time listening to your sound demos lately 😅. Do you heared the celeste phonexicall ? Saw everything and its opposite, would love to hear your thaught on it. Continue what youre doing, we lovin it 👍
FUDU is my favorite in this video more than fat freq and hbb is best bass iem in my opinion till nowadays
Thanks dan for every single video ❤🙏
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thank you for your excellent videos! which one owuld be the one with the deepest (not widest!) soundstage and the most precise imaging?
Ahahaha this video is so funny and sweet especially after watching your MP145 review :D
The QKZ x HBB is weird because I feel it's way too warm for me, but _every time_ I listen to them or hear them in your demos, my mind is like, "yeah, that's nice" haha
As far as the Divinus goes, it's currently on what looks like a clearance sale for $72 on Amazon and I'm champing at the bit to get it just to use it as a reason to clear out my collection.
Speaking of the demos...I've only just now realized how bad the intonation is on Flea's bass throughout the Chili Pepper's song. It was nearing unbearable as it switched across different units lol
Been looking for a decent set with a warmer tuning, was trying to get hold of the hbb khan but Linsoul say they have no more stock and no more being made 😢 After seeing your review I think I’ve found a decent alternative to complement my S12 pro and KATO, thanks 🙏 think I’ll swap out the cable though, picked up a tripowin noire to keep with the monochromatic theme 😎
Did you get the fudu? If so, whats your thoughts when comparing it to s12 and kato?
Dan I’m very interested if you can do a video on Xvive T9s
I feel mp145 is only slightly (tiny) better than fudu
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EDX ProX $3 vs T10... Almost identical, sound and graph, differences in sound seem to be only due to planar vs DD. I'm happy to have both and I'm pretty sure I haven't been able to pick my jaw off the floor regarding the ProX.
Great review, Dan. What are your thoughts on FUDU compared to the OH10? I personally go back and forth between the OH10 (bass), Timeless (dynamics!), and S12 pro (smooth/detailed/sparkly). Thought this would fit in nicely as my easy listening set so I bought it. The OH10 also combining dynamic and balanced armature drivers seems like a nice basis for comparison.
I get my FUDU today! Pumped!
I have both the OH10 and the Timeless and they are in my top3 IEMs that I listen to. I am intrigued by the FUDU and would also like know how the FUDU compares
How is the FUDU so far?
@@ThisIsRick So I've had them for a few days now. I think Dan's analysis is spot-on in regards to the lack of fatigue. The bass is powerful, but not overpowering if that makes sense. It tames some of the treble without losing too much of the space. I think it will fit nicely with my collection.
Comparing to the OH10, it seems a bit more balanced if a bit less detailed. To illustrate by comparing to loudspeakers, I think the OH10 feels like a speaker and discrete sub, while the FUDU seems more like a two way speaker with a great woofer. It feels more put together.
With the OH10 being twice the price it is still better, but I'm not sure it's two times better. Timeless still tops both in my mind, but I feel like I can relax more with FUDU or OH10. (I've fallen asleep with the FUDU the past two days... lol)
@@danjbry Thanks for the detailed reply. And thanks for including OH10 in you response because I own those and have a better feel for what your experience is.
My perception listening in my IEM, FUFU and M145 is too close, in Sorry, M145 looks has more and best Bass, both are open and wide. Listening QKZxHBB ou Wan'er looks claustrophobic, sort of.
Hi Dan. I got the T3+ as you recommended and love them til now. Is the Fudu a complementing pair to the T3+?
It’s a great complement. It’ll add warmth whereas the T3+ is, comparatively, balanced in approach.
Hey Dan! I hope you get the chance to try the Chu 2. My friend has the CHU but I dunno, they always sounded boring and dry to me. However, the Chu 2 sound amazing! Plenty of nice bass, very good energy and detail in the mids and highs. In mi opinion, the Chu 2 are the entry level kings!
Still waiting on a sample!
@@dansaudioreviews Great! Can't wait to know your opinion about it.
@@alexfizz7402oh wait. Maybe I do have it.. I need to double check
there is objectively better iems ( measures better, lower distortion etc) then subjectively better ( I like this sound the most etc) what I find really weird is that there are iems priced for 1000s and people swear by them and I'm sure they are good don't get me wrong. but I feel in a blind test against a more budget iem of similar tuning I doubt they would really be able to pick out 100% of the time as tuning is probably the most noticeable difference between iems with technicalities being second and much harder to compare.
hey Dan, i have a question abiut the Fudu. How does it do in terms of separation and imaging vonpared to a cheaper set like the simgot ew200?
Great review Dan, thanks for providing us useful and detailed informations on this set (PS: I ordered at the end of the video ! 🙂)
🙇🏻♂️ I hope you very much enjoy it!
Hi@@dansaudioreviews Update: I've received the earphones and I find the sound perfect for my criteria: non-fatiguing with sufficiently detailed sound, comfortable and with excellent eartips included. Only the cable could be a little be better, but for the price paid (€60) during BF sales, I'm just nitpicking. Greetings from France, keep up the good work ! ;-)
Hi Dan, I bought the TinHifi T3 Plus (partly due to your great review on it) and have been using it for a while. I'm a fan of its 'fun' sound signature with very forward-sounding vocal and decent bass. My preference for bass is higher than most reviewers, I like something with at least similar or more bass as the T3+. You seem to like the T3 Plus a lot more than what the other reviewers did, so I feel like maybe my preferences, compared to the other reviewers, are more similar to yours.
I've heard mixed opinions about the Fudu's bass, some people also say the vocal is less forward, and the sound is unengaging and too 'easy' to listen too which might be less 'fun'. But since you seem to really like it, I'm wondering what do you think of it as an upgrade for the T3 Plus based on my preferences. Or do you have other preferences at similar price point? I'd really appreciate it if you'd reply.
The Fudu to me is not an upgrade. It’s rather a uniquely and emphatically warm IEM to be used in a rotation of other gear. The T3+ doesn’t approach those levels of warm, but instead has a more overall balanced approach, comparatively.
I would see the Fudu as a companion to the T3+, not an upgrade or replacement.
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@@dansaudioreviews I see, then I won't consider getting the Fudu.
I don't have the budget to purchase many iems to try, so when I wanna upgrade, I wanna choose one with guaranteed significant improvement rather than purchasing many models for small upgrades. For example I've tried my friend's truthear zero red with the impedance adapter, I found the bass stronger and punchier but the vocal a bit less forward, it feels like a small side-grade for me so I wouldn't buy it. I also don't have access to an iem store to try them out physically, so I've to rely on opinions of someone like you.
So I'd really appreciate it if you could suggest me iem(s) that you think would be a great upgrade for me based on my preferences in sound. The sound is my top priority so feel free to suggest the best option(s) in your opinion regardless for price. Thanks!
Would love to hear fudu with edm
Can’t decide please help, fudu verse 1 or hexa? Thanks
I totally agree with you about mood variation/tunning preference.
Does Fudu has that wide soundstage and imaging that MP145 have?
Hi @dansaudioreviews, love your videos. I was wondering how do these compare to the 7hz Timeless and LETSHUOER S12 Pro? Which one would be your favorite?
FUDU has such welcome ease to it without losing a sense of natural sound somehow. I’m really really digging it right now in any mood or time so far. Easy listen with a perspective of detail present.
The Timeless is hard to touch for its own extreme dynamism and sense of clarity. It will probably hold its position for awhile as doing something of the best for what it’s doing at this price. Still, it has fatiguing aspects to the treble at times.
The S12 Pro is probably a pretty good middle ground of flavors. It relaxes up a bit while still trying to offer brightness for “clarity” feelings. But it isn’t as easy as the FUDU and isn’t as dynamic and crystal clear as the timeless.
It’ll come down to personal preference along that spectrum, and quite possibly down to your own ear’s upper mids/treble gain, and people’s own age related hearing losses. I can see a varied experience among people here, as to which one they feel they love when they listen.
I’m currently loving FUDU, but that could also be novelty that eventually changes. Time will tell for sure, but it has those wonderful qualities that it presents and I’m still down for it.
@@dansaudioreviews Thanks a lot for taking the time to reply in such great detail, really appreciate it. I understand what you mean by changing your opinion after some time for a certain IEM, actually I think it was the case with you with the Moondrop Aria (initially it amazed you, then after some time I can't even see it on the new lists). But anyway, it would be a great idea maybe for a review video with a comparison (with demos) of the top favorite ones like the above mentioned , plus the T3+ and the MEST etc. Btw, I just supported you on Patreon, I enjoy your videos so wishing you even more success in the future.
I saw! Thank you so much 🙇🏻♂ I was actually just thinking about doing an entry-level video. "Top picks new audiophiles" sort of thing. I think I need to revisit the T3+, the HBB, FUDU... I'm not sure yet exactly how to approach it, but I know there's something there worth exploring.@@kiretube
Hi Dan, Thank you for this, Will this be an upgrade to TIN HIFI T3+ ?
Different profile, but I do prefer to recommend it now as a start in the hobby. Plus I do think it holds up more as a potential part of a rotation for the person with more gear on hand.
Dan, I see Sennheiser 800S in the background. Which IEM is closest to the 800S in your opinion? Thanks
Oh great question. Very tough to say for sure. Maybe the unique melody MEST MKI shares its bright and balanced leanings.
I’d have to think about this one more perhaps though. I mean there’s plenty of bright IEMs, like Moondrop products, but those that deliver that beautiful perception of a wide staging, and without severe fatigue? Harder to find that.
Sorry bit off topic here, ever thought about testing high end Gaming Headsets like the audeze maxwell?
I need a rig to record headphones with good quality. Current setup may not be ideal. And to get the mics I have in mind, I need money. 😅
Bro I just got these and they have a weird smell to them. Do you remember if your set had a weird chemical smell?
I don’t remember, but that doesn’t surprise me. Factory smell is common with lots of things.
Hey Dan, are the Fudu and MP145 still a rec from you?
I’m torn between these two as my next pair
Hey Dan would you take Fudu over Em6L? assuming the price is irrelevant
I think fatiguing comes from cleanliness. I got hola, fudu(4.4mm), qkz x hbb, tri i3pro and hd660s. I got the hidizs dh80s (have had zendac v2 and btr5) and my sources vary inbetween macbook air m1, ipad mini 6 and samsung s23. My fav combos for relaxed listening are ipad mini 6 + dh80s + hola or macbook air m1 + dh80s + sennheiser hd660s. The rest is too clean, these forementioned combos sounds like as if some harmonic distortions r introduced to the sound so they sound musical and non-fatiguing. I am a nitpicking stereo system audiophile actually. Oh and one thing that is standing out about fudu is that there isn't a second pair that I heard that plays music in your brain like this. You definitely feel the music is being reproduced in your head and you r not listening through your ears. And I adore that hidizs dh80s is making the instruments 3d with a tad bit of sweetness to it. I would take dh80s over btr5 and zendac v2 anyday of the week. And this is my 2 cents. (Mic drop)😅
Hi Dan) What's your take on Kiwi Ears Orchestra lite? Just got them and for me they turned out to be very (if not the most) smooth and balanced.
Something I need to visit.
I think I’ve been wanting to do a kiwi video of some kind. Simgot too.
@@dansaudioreviewssimgot em6l is also extremely great...a little fuller than the Fudu but still done very tastefully.
Hi Dan, are you planning to review the Softear RSV in the near future?
I’d like to. I don’t have it though.
Hey Dam, what about FUDU vs T3+, if you can give me your insight??
Hi Dan, i am the owner of the QKZ X HBB and love it so much, especially with my eq in Wavelet (little less sub and mid bass and a bit more high in the 4 and 6khz notes).
I received today the Fudu with the 3.5mm and to be honest i think i do not really hear a upgrade in sound quality, also not after some tip rolling, i am just curious how you think about these 2 iems, thanks.
Not an upgrade.
They’re just two different profiles. The curves are different. I think someone could prefer the HBB over the FUDU, if that’s the taste and mood they’re on.
The FUDU is certainly a warm set. You have to be in that headspace. The HBB actually gives some upper end detail that the FUDU brings down.
I don’t think FUDU is going to be people’s core IEM in a rotation, but rather something to listen to when warm is sought after. It has the downside of not having the most detail. And if that is something a person can’t handle losing…well it’s gonna feel bad.
But, I suggest trying it at different times of day or on different days. I don’t think it needs time to “burn in,” as sometimes people attribute longer ownership to helping improve the sound with. I think this set may just be good sometimes, and not what I want in others.
If they don’t allow you to find joy, even after trying at different times and moods…I’m so sorry 😞
My usual recommendations almost always, or always really, have more apparent upper end presence. This is a rare time for me too then that I found joy in something with a bit less. It’s a wild departure.
@@dansaudioreviews wow, now that is what i call a reply! That is why you are one of my favourite Tubers Dan👍🏻
I do know i like warm sounding iem's but with just a bit of detail, the Sonus and Simgot EW200 where a bit too bright for me so i am thinking of trying 2 more iem's that were on my list.
The Simgot EM6L and the Kiwi ears Quartet, are those capable contenders?
I have so much going on and a memory that’s too poor to tell you with confidence what I think of them. I probably last heard them weeks ago.
I’m sorry! But one day there will be reviews of kiwi ears stuff and Simgot stuff
@@dansaudioreviews i am looking forward to that Dan, i am now trying to create a list of nice warm sounding iem’s around the $80 to $120. There has to exist some kind of iem that is being considered as an upgrade from the original QKZ X HBB.
Fudu V1 vs. Hexa vs. Rhapsody?
When it comes to these listening impressions, what sort of iem do you have to be wearing? As flat a response as possible?
Whatever you are used to and familiar with.
But yea, I do like a flatter profile right now, with a bright lean to pick up on small differences I often find important to pick up on the upper end.
I currently wear the HD800S when I make my commentary. Though I do of course have direct personal listening experience that primarily serves me to know what I’m speaking toward. The HD800S monitoring I do is just to remind me of aspects I heard in the response during normal listening prior to making my commentary.
I’m going to start trying to use the TANGZU FUDU though. Idk how well it fairs for what I’m used to listening in for though. I’ll have to see. But it seems like it should do a good job.
What do you think about Fudu after 2 month?
What are the direct iems upgrade to the fudu?
I have the Tangzu Wan Er and i like the tuning. Is it worth to upgrade to Fudu or skip to the next tier?
I think the fudu is a great buy from that point. Yes!
Though the Wan’er may still end up being oddly nice for jazz. I loved it one night while trying jazz on it.
Could be more great experiences the Wan’er uniquely provides in its own way too. But yea, for now I’d simply say the FUDU is a well worth upgrade path.
I don’t know where you would find the next level for the FUDU’s flavor profile. You’ll find deep bass and wide staging from the Maestro SE, for example, but with the cost of going into a very different flavor profile in the upper mids and behavior of the bass.
@@dansaudioreviews Thanks Dan! Guess i will try out the Fudu first! Thanks for your review as well as the sound demo as always!
Strangest thing happened to me the other day. A lava lamp showed up at the doorstep. I have no earthly idea why!
Little more air in the Hidiz MP145
Bro i dont know why u dont have atleast 1M Subs.
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Which is better overall, kz castor bass version or qkz HBB?
Don’t have the castor yet.