Armoured Foot Combat | Combat Demonstration

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  • Watch the clash of two mighty knights in our armoured combat demonstration.
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ความคิดเห็น • 97

  • @CarrowMind
    @CarrowMind 6 ปีที่แล้ว +227

    Glad to see they're using proper techniques instead of the usual Hollywood style of slashing against plate causing the victim to magically die from surprise and fall over silently.

    • @MundusMeus974
      @MundusMeus974 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It's the royal armouries...not a hollywood studio. What do you expect? -_-

    • @kentallard8852
      @kentallard8852 ปีที่แล้ว

      I cant recall a film or tv series ever using proper armored sword fighting or even featuring the poleaxe for that matter

  • @PelleMotions
    @PelleMotions 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    People saying historically accurate flight wouldn’t look cool enough but this looks cooler than quite a lot of movie fights.

    • @jeffreyknickman5559
      @jeffreyknickman5559 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @kramer999999999 A lot of times the director wants as much movement as possible on-screen

  • @iancuPotcoava24
    @iancuPotcoava24 6 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    Nice! I loved that Gothic style armour

  • @kwokwing-hung5134
    @kwokwing-hung5134 6 ปีที่แล้ว +91

    This channel is so underrated. Any time someone asks about Middle Age arms or armor, I'll recommend they look at this channel!

    • @admiralgoodboy
      @admiralgoodboy 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kwok Wing-hung this channel is no where close mate

  • @cmhughes8057
    @cmhughes8057 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This is very correct, with the sword, though a battle axe or mace is far better when going against most armor. Maces are really good for going after a knight in full plate armor. One may not get through that but the knight under the armor is going to be seriously bruised up.

    • @Wolvenworks
      @Wolvenworks 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      well yes but swords are universally cooler. therefore techniques were needed for a sword-minded sword person to sword an armored person to death...perhaps that's why the ppl back then created the estoc.

    • @kentallard8852
      @kentallard8852 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      by the time of this armor, late 1400s/early 1500s, they would be using the poleaxe rather than the long axe/danish axe/viking axe/english axe/etc

    • @lassim3111
      @lassim3111 ปีที่แล้ว

      Maces arent actually really good on foot. Pollax and longsword are prob the best weapons for armoured fightinh

  • @Morrow77
    @Morrow77 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Yeah holding the sword in two hands was a very common thing yet i never ever seen that in a movie :D maybe one day

  • @yaboyed5779
    @yaboyed5779 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Italian Milanese armour is just too beautiful

  • @Gerilac001
    @Gerilac001 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wonderful!

  • @hungphan4392
    @hungphan4392 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Best job ever

  • @Borthax
    @Borthax 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Right, the technique is correct, form is correct, but would have prefered a dagger through the gaps after pinning your foe to the ground.
    The expansion of the correct way Knights fought in the mid 1400's to the early 1500's has been sweet nectar to my eyes.

    • @zoiders
      @zoiders 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dagger under the armpit. Not just "the gaps".

  • @cromabu5090
    @cromabu5090 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That is a fine dandy set of gothic armour

  • @flowerthuirstybutterflyint4513
    @flowerthuirstybutterflyint4513 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    That was so killer thx have greate day

  • @edmel144
    @edmel144 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Wish they’d done it properly in Game Of Thrones

    • @Swarm509
      @Swarm509 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They had some great sets of armor and arms (and some really shit) but it felt like nobody was telling them how to wear them correctly or move in them which is unfortunate. Plus the usual "slash stomach, stab through body, win" against plate and mail.

    • @guyanon
      @guyanon 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      They did it in the early seasons, but thee series lost quality over time.

  • @afinoxi
    @afinoxi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Its a good reenactment but i think in an avtual warfare or duel theyd just tackle the other one in that distance and draw a dagger to their eye slit

  • @znerolz
    @znerolz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    They shoukd train to do all the techniques at full speed...would be even more impressive and believable

    • @benp4736
      @benp4736 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      They did when I went

    • @nebraska7598
      @nebraska7598 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And Bloody fast they are too, I had no idea someone could move that fast in full plate

  • @-----REDACTED-----
    @-----REDACTED----- 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    God the sallet is beautiful

  • @-----REDACTED-----
    @-----REDACTED----- 6 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    For a time armour was winning the arms race against long range weapons.
    Then gun powder came along and equalised the battlefield.

    • @Torag55
      @Torag55 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      To be honest, there are some armor made specifically to become as hard as possible to be impenetrable to the iron round balls of the muskets. But because of how pricey the pieces of armor were, they stopped paying for it. Not just that, the men wearing these armors are often professionals and they take time to make, and not so easily replaced when lost. I think it's mostly the economics of armor that made it obsolete, with muskets being able to be easily used by anyone: just point and shoot.

    • @hunterthomas8579
      @hunterthomas8579 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ssi1991 armor is still used on the battlefield, it’s just made from different material now

    • @7dayspking
      @7dayspking 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Gunpowder existed as long as plate armour, including handguns starting in the late 14th century. Plate armour was widely used until a few hundred years ago.

    • @ThorSuzuki1
      @ThorSuzuki1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@7dayspking The armor being used after the 17th century was pretty much only the cuirass for some cavalry regements.

    • @7dayspking
      @7dayspking 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ThorSuzuki1 'after the 17th century', so the 1700s. Fine but what does that have to do with my comment?

  • @benrobertson7855
    @benrobertson7855 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ahh this explains the high staff attrition rate!

  • @pher35
    @pher35 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Whats with holding the swords with one hand on the blade? Striking with the handle ?

    • @RoyalArmouries
      @RoyalArmouries  4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's a technique called Half-Swording or Halbschwert, used to add power to your strikes or create extra leverage when facing an armoured opponent.
      More here: th-cam.com/video/0L9i7Ne6anU/w-d-xo.html

  • @poopsiedoodlesp8506
    @poopsiedoodlesp8506 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    kinda slow, but I totally get it cus it's a demonstration

    • @canarddefer3574
      @canarddefer3574 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The video is slowed own for effect - I trained these chaps and believe me, you'll see them go at it quite a bit faster when they're live.

  • @Spider-Too-Too
    @Spider-Too-Too 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    its kinda funny seeing two knight in full amror fighting each other with a sword.
    tho, it defi looks better than having a mace and a shield

  • @fham__7217
    @fham__7217 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Where did these guys get trained to do this? It looks fantastic

    • @canarddefer3574
      @canarddefer3574 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      They were trained at the Royal Armouries by the resident fight directors - one of whom is me!

  • @th4n4t58
    @th4n4t58 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    play it on 1.75x speed

  • @mr31337
    @mr31337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great techniques. Shame they have to do it so slowly.

  • @thoughtheglass
    @thoughtheglass 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those are the biggest rondels I've ever seen

  • @BlackKnight-th8ml
    @BlackKnight-th8ml 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is sport

  • @THEDARKKNIGHTXTDK
    @THEDARKKNIGHTXTDK 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello.

  • @R6-kc4jx
    @R6-kc4jx 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ma, the Italians and the Germans are at it again

  • @caldoesstuff7290
    @caldoesstuff7290 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    When doing this are they just acting?

  • @vincecatubuan7689
    @vincecatubuan7689 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'd use a warhammer at that point

  • @maggym3390
    @maggym3390 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Damn Ironman 4 looks great...

  • @caldoesstuff7290
    @caldoesstuff7290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When doing this are they acting it out? By that I mean are the fights scripted?

    • @RoyalArmouries
      @RoyalArmouries  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi Cal. Yes the fights are scripted as they are a performance for people who visit the museum.

  • @baalgar5530
    @baalgar5530 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    *clank *clank *click

  • @Langlin22
    @Langlin22 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    toss the pommel

  • @Wolvenworks
    @Wolvenworks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    you know....always wondered, when you have enough steel to render yourself effectively bladeproof, why hasn't anyone just...go hand to hand fisticuffs and beat the crap out of someone with that gauntlet in an armored fight? the weight of the armor and someone armored sitting on you while said person commences a full mount ground pound would surely knock you out, right?

    • @thetexan1011
      @thetexan1011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Punching well made plate armor will mostlikely hurt you more than the other guy, bc the other guy isn't just wearing plate, he's probably wearing a gambison, and maybe some chain as well, so all that plate and padding will take up most of the pain from a punch.
      Now you see them using the pommels of their swords in this fight, well that makes a bit more sense bc the pommel is a smaller object so it can get more pressure I'm one spot, probably denting the armor whit the amount of force applied, whilst the hand is a larger object, thus having a wider area of effect but causing it to have less pressure in one spot.
      But hits to certain areas can hurt the fighter if you get put into a head lock or a grapple, but it's more of a "I need to wear this guy out or do something or I'm going to die"
      But I'm certain hand to hand did happen.
      That's why you rarely see unarmed armored combat

    • @Wolvenworks
      @Wolvenworks 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@thetexan1011 that...actually makes sense. huh.

  • @user-og8ee5cd8d
    @user-og8ee5cd8d 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    маловаты пушки для таких лат разве только заколотьполучится

  • @jeanladoire4141
    @jeanladoire4141 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wtf you dont get hurt by getting hit in the belly by a sword pommel or a half swording hit ... you guys have armors, remember ?

    • @sparto2132
      @sparto2132 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The armour is exactly the reason they use the sword pommel or hand-guard... Using the blade of the sword does nothing in terms of slashing and due to how the armour is all sloped makes it nearly impossible to pierce. Therefore the only thing they can do is to use a technique called "Mordhau" (half swording) to effectively turn the sword into a hammer and trust me being hit with a hand-guard or pommel is pretty much the same as being hit with a hammer.

    • @jeanladoire4141
      @jeanladoire4141 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sparto
      That's my point, when i get hit in my armor with a hammer (in fact a large heavy club) in the chestplate for exemple, i don't feel pain, and i don't play as of it was knocking me back ... in the head it can be hard to bear, but on the chest, it won't do nothing.

    • @jeanladoire4141
      @jeanladoire4141 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      •TheKaisTzar •
      That's why we wear padding underneath
      .-.
      The breastplates are such big pieces that all the force is spread around the padding of the torso. When i'm getting hit very hard on the breastplate, i barely feel anything, i'm just pushed back.

    • @jeanladoire4141
      @jeanladoire4141 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      •TheKaisTzar •
      In my opinion not really ... tape a 1inch cloth to your chest and put a plank or any piece of wood or steel on it. Then ask a friend to club you in the chest, you will step back a bit but you won't feel pain.
      So getting "disoriented" is too much for these kinds of hits.
      Maybe that with a mace or a warhammer, hitting the sensitive spots (articulated parts, the visor of the helmet, or the helmet itself) some could disorient the armored guy ... but it's not happening with these weak hits.
      It's just to show how they fought in armor, not to prove that the armor is effective.

    • @canarddefer3574
      @canarddefer3574 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I directed this fight, and to clear up the discussion, the pommel strike is meant to be aimed upwards and into the groin; it went too high on this particular demo.

  • @beowulf.reborn
    @beowulf.reborn 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nothing shown in this seems to present any threat to the opponent, at which I ask, what is the point of the sword? It seems to me that if one of them simply had a rondel dagger and advanced headlong on their opponent they'd have faired much better.
    Perhaps it is the lack of speed in the demonstration that makes it all seem weak and pointless, but again, nothing there seems like it would phase a man in armour, at all.

  • @Vospader21
    @Vospader21 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    You’re not even really using the swords like swords. For all the gripping you do with the blade you may as well just use a mace, or a hammer.

    • @carlcepillo01
      @carlcepillo01 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      That is the point. Swords are good againts unarmored levies not against knights. They are using them as hammer instead, which can kill even an armored knight.

    • @Kydino
      @Kydino 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Vospader21 When you don't know shit it's best to shut up.

    • @user-hp4zy1ut2c
      @user-hp4zy1ut2c 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This is a "half swording"
      th-cam.com/video/vi757-7XD94/w-d-xo.html

    • @Vox_Popul1
      @Vox_Popul1 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Vospader21 you have no clue what you’re talking about, look up half swording (or Mordhau if you wanna call it by its proper name), it’s a legitimate way of fighting opponents in armor and the style was invented just for that

  • @eitkoml
    @eitkoml 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is bullshit. They're only pretending to spar. It's like those pre-rehearsed routines in traditional martial arts that have nothing to do with fighting.

    • @RoyalArmouries
      @RoyalArmouries  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is a display for museum visitors. Our performers do use strikes and manoeuvres from genuine fight books, but you are right, it is not a real fight.

  • @7dayspking
    @7dayspking 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could be better, better to get martial artists for demonstrations the overacting really cheapened the experience and made it look silly rather than a serious and respectful representation of armoured fighting.
    Although this is a choreographed sequence and none of the attacks are actually dangerous and that's clear as day, some of the blows are still even more unbelievable.
    Examples are like 22 seconds in the two men exchange one after another two out of range weird shoves with the sides of their weapons, one of them with both hands on the handle and the weapon pointing towards the floor.
    That exchange 31 seconds in, same weird shoves with the side of the weapon towards the opponent's weapon. That grappling technique 37 seconds in needs to be seen to be believed, looks like something out of an aikido demonstration but with none of the precision or commitment that 'sells' an aikido demonstration.
    44 seconds in, the two exchange backhanded flicks with their hands.
    53 seconds in. Yes aiming for the gaps fine but at that range, from that position, with the sword held like that there's simply nothing on there and if a gap was found the position is too weak to cause proper harm through the gap. Most of the plates overlap from top to bottom, upwards strikes will find these gaps much easier. Conveniently swords are much easier to hold in one hand with the handle lower than the blade.
    I feel like there's probably a lot of martial artists in your immediate area that would jump at the chance to work with royal armouries to create both logical choreography and even to do armoured demos.

    • @zoiders
      @zoiders 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      All very interesting to hear but still a load of codswallop. If you are not happy then don a suit of armour then try performing all those "martial arts" moves on a muddy battlefield with blood piss and shit under foot.