DB11 vs Vanquish S vs V12 Vantage S: Aston Martin Shootout
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![[Time To Buy?] Aston Martin V12 Vantage S](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/GGi45ifhSzE/mqdefault.jpg)
"This car is a lot more me" - "A smaller package"
Very dirty but I love that
Oh man, the db11 looks absolutely gorgeous! Have seen 5 on the streets, but this one.... WOW
You seriously should be presenting Top Gear. Absolute pro
Haha you flatter me too much. Was such a fun day! Thanks for the invite
Lovecars They're right though xD and bring Mr. JWW along please
STG + JWW would make such a perfect duo, still remembering with a smile the banter on the Q&As they shared with Seb and Paul. It was priceless.
Lovecars hell no
Lovecars what the fuck
That V12 Vantage is absolutely stunning, and despite it's age I think it's the most beautiful car of the three.
I agree. There's something so aggressive, yet sophisticated about it's silhouette.
agreed, its the only one that looks proper aston, the other 2 look like spaceships
The Vanquish looks just as stunning but in a GT Form, in Astons GT form. Especially at the back, the new design style they've got doesn't work on the DB11 but they've nailed it on the Vanquish.
And yeah, that V12 Vantage is that perfect aggression in an Aston. If you ever get the chance to go to 6 hours of Silverstone WEC or to wheever the nearest WEC is for you then listen to the V8 Vantage's there, they repeatedly pound your senses...It's violent
vantage just a normal car , but the db11 is a really special one
Definitely
the vanquish s is one of the most beautiful front engine cars in the world
As always Sam, a class act. Your intros have the feel good factor. Great video.
3 Astons, what's not to love
I love Astons.
Can´t wait for the new Vantage to be showed.
Hope it looks like the DB10.
I think the new Vantage will be amazing
Yes i think so.
And i hope so.
Might just be my next car.
I really hope so, I drive a V8 Vantage and although the gearbox is a pain in the ass to deal with at low speeds, the power delivery of the NA V8 makes up for it. Hoping the turbos don't completely soil it.
Jake. I am a bit worried about the same thing.
But the AMG engine they are gonna use is pretty good in the Mercs i`ve tried with it.
And it´s also one of the few turbo engines that sounds good.
But we´ll see when it comes.
If you're talking about the current engine that's used across all new AMG's, as have I. I'm running a GLE63S alongside the Vantage, but I would be very surprised if that's what substituted the current engine, the power band seems far too short. I pull through first gear way too quickly I find the current AMG engine, where as in the Aston it let me revs all the way up to about 7.5-8K RPM, I have much more room to play around with in the Aston. It would be a shame if thats what replaced it IMO.
Honestly the Vanquish S is my dreamcar, I want one so bad...
Same😅
I absolutely love Aston Martins, deffo my favourite car brand, out of the 3 I'd have the Vanquish S, although that manual Vantage is temping too. Great video Sam!
I really wasn't sure of the DB11 when it launched, but now I've seen a few around in london, I'm starting to think it looks really good
The V12 Vantage looks perfect!
Nice shots guys 👌🏻 production value on point!
Awesome video Sam. Gutted I wasn't able to introduce myself and come along with you guys (I work for Dick Lovett Marketing). Hopefully catch-up with you soon if you're ever down our way again! ✌🏼
ElliotNewton Dick Lovett always cracks me up🤣🤣
Calling a company Dick Loveit is the best marketing thing I've ever seen! Never fails to crack me up & definitely draws attention !
The vanquish is still the best looking 😁
Great to see you in my local area. I live minutes away from Cheddar Gorge and grew up in Weston-super-Mare. Absolutely love the manual v12, a rare delight!
I choose the Vanquish S without a doubt! BRUTAL CAR!
Amazing editing😱👍🏼👍🏼
Thank you! Had fun putting this video together
The level of this chap's content is a cut above all others. Kudos.
back to the proper videos again, loving it
The colour on that Vantage looks amazing
Great production together with your chill "real" delivery. STG FTW. Keep it up Sam!
That yellow spider was popping!
Nice job Sam and Joel awesome video! Love some of the drone shots you all got in the canyons. Wish we had driving roads near me in the States like that. Definitely hope to see a more in depth review of the Manual V12 Vantage. Keep up the good work and happy Friday!
Thank you Richard!!
This new 12 o'clock upload time is great, livens up my lunch hour
Midday upload is a gooood thing 😎
omg, i use to go to this pier when i was i kid. I live in straya now, wow
Awsome video Sam, keep it up!
What a stunning colour on that V12 Vantage S 😍
I wouldn't mind having a Vantage S because of the manual transmission, but my heart really lies with the sound and appearance of the DB11 and Vanquish S, even though all three essentially look and sound as though they're the same car.
I love stg, I love Aston and I love Somerset and Avon. What a dream day. Thanks for sharing it.
awesome Sam you're killing it mate!
Big up bristol, my home town
Seemed like a very nice place
Andy Morris cider heads until we die
My house is in the thumbnail in the background. Got so excited when I saw it. Wicked video Sam!
I wish the UK had more places like Cheddar Gorge to drive round. It looks amazing!
What a beautiful trio and what a tragic missed opportunity to do an intelligent comparison. No over excited teenager who would never be a buyer of any of these cars should have been used to comment. Think how more informative and interesting to watch would this have been if a middle aged potential buyer would have driven all three and compared styling, interiors, street driving experience, aggressive twisties driving, etc. We would have all have been much better informed and satisfied.
Last time I was this early, Sam was bald.
Oh wait!
The last time I was this early, Random Car Guy was a fool
Oh wait!
+Mr Nobody simply because I have proven you wrong several times, I am not a fool.
Please please drive the Vanquish S again aggressively, much more than a new incredible exhaust , the extra power, revised handling ,its the best Aston ever made ,you will agree)
Sam, this was a simply great video.
They have to be some of the best sounding vehicles ever.. 🚗💨👌🏽
Great stuff Sam, you said the vanquish S sounded like it had an aftermarket exhaust that's because it's got a completely new revised exhaust system if you haven't already been told, love the new time, keep up the good work 👍
Loved it because they're all Aston's. Way more of the same please!
I'm loving those new transitions Sam!
Sam, Great content! I might be a little bias as I own a Vantage v8, but they are amazing cars! The videography was wonderful as always. Beautiful canyon area. Next time I'm in England I'll try to slip down there for a look. Cheers!
How do you ALWAYS come up with new and new ideas?
V12 VANTAGE FTW
Such a beast
An Amazing Panda man that green looks absolutely fantastic and it's manual too!
I prefer the Vanquish S
+Mark Hermens I prefer Vanquish too, Vantage is hideous at the front.
FANTASTIC VIDEO!!
9:03 That moment that Sam saw a Ferrari and went mental!!!
im really not an exotic car guy but i would like to own the v12 vantage s. might get one in a couple years. not in a huge hurry to own one. want to add an r32 gtr and a classic muscle truck to the collection first.
The opening cut was great, plz keep up!
Love the interiour of the Vanquish S
Great job Sam,one of your best!
Unreal, I drove a Aston Martin db9 carbon black edition through that same tunnel 😝 the v12 sound is amazing
Great video Sam , I love AM,s especially the Vantage V12 manuals.
STG love your background music so cool 👏👏👍
The db11 is such a beauty
You need your eyes tested then
Oh I'm sorry that I have a subjective opinion
More like you pal
Great video Sam! Some lovely shots of my home town too. Hope you enjoyed Bristol.
What's the colour called on the Vanquish S?
one of my fave car videos out there, I think I've watched it 10 ten times, win goes to the vantage
Love your videos Sam!
You make a great team with Joel, a really great vid!
Great idea , differents cars but the same flag , keep your'r motivation it's a pleasure to see her everyday !
so cool to see you in ma hometown Bristol!! hope you enjoyed it here
Aw man you were like right next to my work and I was in cheddar the other day! Wish I had seen you mate glad to have you in the West Country 🔴⚪🔴⚪🍻🍻🍻
Ah Cheddar Gorge! Man have there been some good meets there!
Such a good road to put a car through its paces.
I've scene all of them except the vanquish, which just happens to be my favorite
Vanquish S for me anyday. It's a pure stallion
great trio of cars that green with a manual unique
Love the new editing!
yep another great show
That beginning string of transitions though!
I got a Citroen ad before this video. You've got some balls Citroen, I'll give you that
sometimes i like my own comment to get the ball rolling u know......
I hear that!
An Amazing Panda a magician necer reveals his secrets
Beautiful colour on the Vantage
Absolutely incredible video!
"It immediately feels a lot more like me, it's a smaller package." - STG 2017
Very cool video Sam!
hahahahahaha that moment before you went onto the peer was hilarious and keep up the great vids!!
You stalled a V12 ? A V6 i could see , but does the V12 not have any low rpm torque ? Is it all upper rpm HP like a 4 banger ?
Cool flip moment at the beginning.
Yep, the best one is the V12 Vantage S :O I'm still not convinced by the look and the "character" of the new DB11 :\
stg and jww on another level
Good job Sam!
I live in cheddar and saw u lot driving out towards Weston
Seeing the other two for comparison really highlights how underwhelming the DB11 is IMHO. I wish they'd found a way to keep it naturally aspirated. And, if not, I wish they'd gone with a turbo straight 6 and harkened back to the old Aston's, since the TT V12 engine is insanely heavy. Back when it came out, the DB9 was constantly being criticized for being "overweight" at 3900 pounds. The DB11 is hardly a step in the right direction at 4100 lbs. This is a step in the wrong direction. Sorry to see Aston being so poorly led.
flyingphoenix113 DB11 curb weight is 3900 pounds. NA V12 is just not practical these days if you want to achieve 600PS+ with modern emissions regulations.
*Curb weight* maybe. But, as Motortrend recently tested, the AUW (without driver) of the DB11 is actually 4194 lbs. That is unacceptable for a "svelte sport GT." For reference, the curb weight of the DB9 is actually closer to 3700 lbs., it's just that curb weights are misleading and irrelevant in most modern contexts which is why I referenced the AUW. So, there's effectively 180 lbs. (or more) of intercoolers, turbochargers, fluids, and piping that has now been added. And, power increase or not, the car is worse than its contemporaries. Just compare it to the ancient Aston V12 Vantage S, which has less horsepower, *significantly* less torque, and a chassis from 2005. It has a higher top speed (205 vs. 200), a faster 0-60 (3.7 vs. 3.9) and a lap time around Big Willow that is almost 6 *SECONDS FASTER.* With a better chassis, better aero, better electronics, better spring and damper ratings, and better brakes, this is utterly unacceptable, and why most DB9 owners I have talked to consider the DB11 a step backwards. Aston should have made investments in fuel-saving tech like GM did rather than going for the easy route of downsizing and turbocharging. Instead, the DB11 gets mediocre fuel economy, whilst the 6.2 litre V8 in the C7 Corvette can achieve over 30 MPG highway in the US. I realise they have a limited budget, but cheapening on the drivetrain was the wrong move.
What do you think curb weight is?
It's interesting that you only consider top trumps numbers when evaluating a car. Not to mention, you are comparing an aggressively positioned 2 seater sports car against a luxury 4 seater GT car. Let's think about it, what contemporaries does DB11 have that are lighter? FF - Heavier, Panamera - Heavier, anything Bentley or Rolls are what, 2.5 tonnes+?
These investments in fuel-saving tech that Aston Martin didn't bother with, I suppose here you are ignoring the new tech that turns off one bank of cylinders when you aren't using them. DB11 is easily capable of 30MPG plus, as you can see in the Supercars of London video that is mentioned in this very video, so I have no idea where you are getting this information.
I know what the definition of curb weight is. But, having worked recently as an automotive consultant, I can tell you that they don't check to see if the cars have full fluids. Either that, or Aston Martin outright lied about the weight of their vehicle (which, wouldn't surprise me significantly).
I know the cars have different functions. I made the point to highlight how important power to weight ratio is. Porsche managed to keep their car light because they made it a priority starting with the 997. If Aston switched to a 4.0 litre straight 6 like the Astons of old and kept the weight below 3500 lbs. (which is relatively easy, given that the F12 managed to keep its weight below 3600 lbs. despite having an even larger V12 than the V12 Vanquish), they would have a car which is objectively better in all measurements except for outright speed as well as a car which is dynamically superior than the new DB11. Also, you are quoting UK mpg, hence why I specified *US* Mpg in my previous post. The EPA cycle says that, *UNDER THE BEST POSSIBLE CONDITIONS,* the DB11 can achieve 21 MPG on the highway. If we switch to imperial fuel economy numbers, the 6.2 litre LT1 V8 looks even better. It's not just cylinder deactivation, it's electric water pumps, reducing internal engine friction (which is what Porsche focused on), and various other important engineering measurements.
I don't think you can take the stated curb weight of one company and just trust it, and then compare it positively to another because you don't trust it. Anyway.
I'm not going to argue that the LT1 is a truly fantastic engine, but consider the investment that GM (or VAG) can put into development compared to a small independent like Aston Martin. Not to mention, the V12TT is actually an awesome engine, super torquey, sounds fantastic - perhaps not quite as great as the NA but it never could be. That EPA figure is demonstrably wrong as well in the real world, Porsche have had similar problems in that regard.
I do like the idea of the straight 6 turbo though, aren't Jag doing one? I think there is still a huge issue over the 'Top Trumps' culture - I've heard V12 Vantage owners lording it over V8 owners because of their extra cylinders.
I don't think anyone that's driven DB11 that I've spoken to considers it a step backwards. Having that Lotus bloke onboard helped, and dynamically DB9 just doesn't even compare. I would add that critics would seem to almost unanimously back me up on that.
So basically a posh boys jolly day out. Am I jealous, hell yes!
Even though Sam doesn't upload at 5 anymore I still watch him at 5
So Vanquish S is a great allrounder which looks the best, DB11 is best tourer and V12 Vantage S is the best to drive??
could someone please explain the aston lineup? I don't really understand what the goal or niche of each car is really.
Has your dad already made the decision for his new car? I'd love to see him driving a bentayga. Such beautiful cars! 😀
Vantage color though!! amazing and head turning. Can anyone tell me what color is it?
I seen you!! I was the one that waved at you in the green Aston Martin. You were coming up the main road by the school Kings of Wessex
That green is pretty damn sick on the V12 Vantage...I don't think the DB11 or Vanquish S could pull it off, but damn...
When a DB11 drives by and all you hear is a V12 Vantage S further down the road
Vanquish s sounds even better and is louder
Sam what day was this?!! I live in Weston-super-Mare and everywhere in this video are places I know like the back of my hand!
That red fiesta st at 8.59 though!
Stalling the Vantage, did you just simply forget to press the clutch when coming to a stop?
Imagine a car TV show with Shmee, JWW and Sam. And a few hundred million budget.
That would be the best thing ever. Like, ever.
I Love Cars
I Love This Video
I Love The Vanquish S
but most of all..... I Luv Sam!
Thanks for all your hard work and effort Sam. Always putting a smile on my face when watching your vids :-)
What's up with the Doug Demuro double-shirt look?
Recently I got to drive a 595 competizione and now I think I kinda know what your daily driving is like :D It's a pretty cool machine. Little fun car. Only let down I made out in the short time was the feeling of the gearbox. gear leaver felt quite whobbly when I changed gears and not very chrisp compared to let's say a Cayman GT4... Is it the same with the 695?