To be a superstar, you have to be elite and consistent offensively. Obviously defense matters and while Jimmy is an elite defender, he's an inconsistent offensive player. Putting up crazy offensive numbers puts you into the superstar category. I would consider him a star, above an all-star but not quite a superstar. Guys like Jaylen Brown, Draymond Green, Klay Thompson, Chris Paul, etc. for example would be in the same category because they don't put up numbers but can have a huge impact on the game. However, offense is more valuable than defense in today's game.
offense was always more valuable than defense. defense is important but offense sells even when Russell was winning championships it was wilt that was the talk of the town. even Jokic proves I can be dominant offensively 60 percent defensively and we still win.
Man dude played the 3 best teams in the league and 3 of the top 5 mvp vote getters in 1 playoff! Anyone not named jimmy butler would be getting their flowers stop the hate!!!
@@andrewgiegerich8211 I'm not hating on Butler. I actually like his grit and defense. I'm just pointing out that today's standard for superstars involves elite scoring and stats. Jimmy has accomplished more than other NBA superstars have for sure. However, having a title or a great playoff run doesn't necessarily mean you are a superstar. That's what I'm getting at.
Jimmy isn't as talented as a lot of the superstars but got that dog in him and is a leader that most of those superstars don't got either. he's his own person
Butler is a superstar clear cut. He''s a leader, a big dog, a all around player on both sides of the ball. He gets to the finals with a bunch of role players. Give that man his props. He just ran up against the best team in the NBA that's all.
The disrespect for Denver started already. Not even 24 hours after winning the chip. All year they were talking about "what if the others" then they were all shook when they ran thru the play-offs.
You know Stephen A still salty about the Warriors. He had all that talk about Steph being and Mount Rushmore blah blah blah then they lost. He can't admit they run is over 😂
You think so because you disrespect the 'others' on that Heat roster. Jimmy Butler's true shooting percentage in ECF and finals: 51%. For context how bad that is, Westbrook's true shooting in regular season was 51.3%, Harden's TS% this postseason was 54%. He was sensational in first round, with 67% TS%. But after that he was terrible, under the standard of a regular star, not to mention a superstar. Jimmy plays defense I get it but as first scoring option he was literally giving Heat negative production being that inefficient, in fact almost the least efficient among all players. Jimmy carried the Heat in first round, and then he was the one being carried vs Celtics.
@@Young-ep8ik you’re also looking at two series, in 2022 he put on a show in each series and in the bubble he was elite for all 4 playoff series. The guy wins and if he wasn’t on the team they would be a lottery team
@@619AllThat Like I said he carried them vs Bucks. I know he's injured. My post was in response to OP's statement that other stars can't make the finals with Heat's supporting cast. But given how badly an injured Jimmy played, I think it's fairly likely a few other stars can make the finals if they switch with Jimmy especially in later rounds. My point was Heat had a great roster that played well enough to overcome a non-performing first option. Give the 'others' on that Heat team their respect.
They do realize that Butler wasn't the same ever since the ankle injury against the Knicks right? But before then he was the best player in this playoffs
Jimmy single handedly took an 8 seed to the finals. Bam played fine, a couple other guys had some games where they played out of their minds here and there, but he was the backbone. He had a rough finals, but they were in Game 5 at the end because of him.
Totally agreed but his finals was soo bad. Bams numbers were better than his. Because he folded on that biggest stage i can’t decide if he’s a superstar or not
Jimmy is good but he got shutdown in the finals by everyone that guarded him. They all figured out that he was always going to turn over his left shoulder on post ups.
@@andrewgiegerich8211 Bro, gassed, what do you mean gassed? They were chilling in game 4 to 6 against Celtics, how are they tired from just chilling during those games and then closing game 7. He is just not clutch and not that great of a player, that's the true fact. Hopefully Heat can get better players in the off season.
I only think Lebron, KD, Giannis, and Curry are superstars today. And jokic actually one too now. It's not about winning one or two playoff series and matters how you win and team chemistry. 😊
Dame is a star not a superstar. Jimmy is a star not a superstar. You have to be the best player on both ends of the floor and deliver when it counts. Lebron was a superstar for 18 years. KD was a superstar before his injury. Kawhi was a superstar before his injury. Tim Duncan was a superstar. Shaq was a superstar. Kobe was a superstar. Superstar is reserved for the elite of the elite. We have to stop devaluing the word superstar because we might hurt some people's feelings.
@@Rick-bi9fw bro what kd was never elite defensively and he a superstar so prime harden and curry were not superstars cuz of defense what are u talking about. Same one of the best shooters ever scoring 30 a nite he’s a superstar
@@WaveRider1989 I think those 5, plus Luka and Embiid..and then maybe Dame and Tatum, are the true superstars. After that, you have Booker, Mitchell, SGA..guys like that. I think Jimmy is way closer to them than those first 7 players I listed
What do I think? I believe before Denver even begins to think about becoming a dynasty the improvement of MPJ must become a real priority.(dude is 24). That said...If he works hard, stays healthy, continues to improve defensively and continues to work on his passing, "moving without the ball" and "in between game"....Denver will be tough once again. Real talk...the rookie took some of his minutes. Hopefully that will provide enough motivation for him to continue to grow. Wishing him the best.
Yup He can carry at times but he can’t seal the deal for any team. Tobias Harris over me? Actually yes I would take him over you cause he doesn’t provide false hope
Jimmy Butler is a lower bound player whereas Tatum and Booker are upper bound players. Sports analysis always lean towards upper bound players because they sell dreams, but they always forget that dreams are unstable. What Lebron, Jokic and Steph have in common is they cover both ends of the boundary. If we really think about it, Jimmy Butler is definitely equal to Tatum and Booker. He can still score 50+ if the game requires him to do it, but he is not going to do it game after game. He can guarantee you a 20+ with a decent chemistry and a solid defense. Tatum and Booker have crazy scores much more regularly, but they can be completely invisible at times. It's as if they sabotaged the team with their nonexistent plays.
Why is it that everyone else gets the “he doesn’t have another superstar” excuse but Jimmy doesn’t? After game 2 of the ecf the game plan was to shut down jimmy which allowed his guys to be wide open and have a historic shooting performance. Jimmy is the best two way player in basketball right now. Give him dame this summer with Bam and see what happens.
thank you!! all they care about in the league is offense. That's all that matters which is why guys like jokic, kd, curry, luka etc get to do what they do. The league is driven by offense and ppl who average 28ppg+ the ppl who do it best they want to classify as superstars. That's the standard. how many stars can carry their team to the finals, with that roster, while being the MAIN focus of attention?? lol tatum over jimmy??? yeah he couldn't do it with JB, Smart,brogdon and co. imagine jimmy with one of those stars with him and a big man next to bam?? gtfoh
For me a superstar is a person you're willing to pay a super max as a realistically competing team, and if I ran an actively and realistically competing NBA organization I wouldn't be willing to pay Jimmy the supermax, I'd pay him, but just not the supermax.
@@jasonj7755 In this case me too, but Kyrie's mentality is trash, and even though he is a way better offensive player, Kyrie especially does not carry any team.
He’s in that grey area between all star and superstar. Top 5 two way player but as a heat fan I can say he’s wayyyyy too inconsistent offensively for him to be a superstar
*Best players are mentioned first* Best : Jokic On his level: Giannis, Lj, Curry, KD Dame, ( healthy Kawhi ) , On the cusp/ALL NBA : Jimmy , Luka, ja , zion, (Healhy PG13), Booker Taytum/Brown , Embiid. Etc All Stars/top 30 : Etc etc
If ur scoring game requires you to make a ton of free throws to get to 30 points you are not a superstar. Idc how good you are on defense, there’s a reason Jaren Jackson Jr is not a superstar and Luka Doncic is. Jimmy butler when he doesn’t get bailed out by the refs can barely average 20 ppg. And not one single time since the bucks series did he put this team on his back and take them to the finish line. These are the superstars in my mind. Kevin Durant, Lebron James, Nikola Jokic, Giannis Antentokounpo, Jayson Tatum, Steph Curry, Luka Doncic, Damian Lillard, Joel Embiid, and imo Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. Those are the NBA’s superstars. Jimmy Butler is a star and a great player, but he was not good this postseason since the bucks series. He wasn’t the best player in the Knicks series (Jalen Brunson), the Celtics series (Jayson Tatum), or in the Nuggets series (Nikola Jokic). I’m gonna ask y’all a question, and if you decide to respond to this comment I ask you to rly ask yourself. What has Jimmy Butler accomplished without Erik Spolestra? He had many talented teams in Chicago, didn’t do anything. He had a very talented team in Minnesota, but there he couldn’t be a leader and teach KAT and Wiggins how to be professionals. In Philly, he had his most talented team, couldn’t get out of the 2nd round. And now in Miami you expect me to believe that Jimmy butler is carrying these lesser talented teams?! No he wasn’t, Eric Spolestra was winning 40+ games with Goran Dragic as the best player. Jimmy butler is not the reason the heat are good, Eric Spolestra is!
Big facts. Don’t forget them teams with Bron and Wade supporting cast played there roles better then most championship teams but wasn’t more talented. Cost them a 3 peat against spurs. But nobody talks about how amazing a coaching job Spo did during that 4 years
where it gets tricky is the lack of competition in terms of big men like shot blockers n big presences Jokic has had to face but that’s just the modern nba so can’t really hold it against him
We hold Bill Russels era against him, LeBrons era against him we shouldn’t do that for either player but if you are one of the guys that do, you should keep that same energy
He's productive and i'll take him any day on my team......... "Star" not a super star........I watched Jimmy grow up me and his sister dated for years.....I would have never thought he would make it to the league.......He was a cool tall country kid growing up lol I applaud him ✊🏿💯❤️ my little brother ✊🏿
The jimmy butler disrespect is crazy he’s been to the finals 2 times . There’s literally players in the NBA they call superstars that have never been to the finals smh . Look at Miami roster they should’ve have got that far before the ankle injury butler was balling . They need to give brah his props and stop hating
It's about individual production. Jimmy doesn't have the same level of individual performance as the actual superstars. Making the finals doesn't make you a superstar.
@@smoothsavage2870no lol basketball is a team sport and he took 1 of the least talented teams in the playoffs and came close to beating the 3 best teams this year
Jimmy is the definition of a TRUE Number 2 Guy. Nothing wrong with that. He is a Star but the term "Superstar" is used to loosely now a days. There a reason why Jimmy is never mentioned alongside Upper Tier Stars in the League. Superstars are also players that are marketable, endorsed, & carries a brand. Jimmy doesn't have any of that.
no it's because Jimmy is not your LeBron or Steph or DBook or Tatum he wasn't drafted highly and he was considered for a long time a cancer to a team, and now the media and people still can't accept that they were wrong, that Jimmy was never the problem and until he wins a championship nobody will admit that they were wrong and will continue to doubt him, remember last year when him and UD and Spo was screaming at each other and people were so quick to jump to the narratives that they were imploding when they were the literal 1 seed, legends like Pip were talking about his attitude this and that and everyone just went with the narrative because they didn't like seeing a player like Jimmy who wasn't drafted highly, who isn't flashy, who doesn't play by the media's narratives beat those narratives
Mad Dog is right. Yes it is murky BUT you need consistent source of offense. Superstars are source of consistent offense. Yes they play some bad games but they're numbers is still significant compared to an average nba player.
I like how the narrative is like ‘Jimmy was able to take these teams to two finals’ yet we were talking about the heat team during these playoffs as being great. You can be a great team with no superstars and get to the finals, and win. Detroit
great but how does he not show up in the finals is the problem he did all that “playoff basketball” just to get to the big stage and be 5-14 going into the 4th quarter for 3 straight games
Butler is a Superstar hands down! He and his team has beaten the best teams and best players in the playoffs. Two Finals in Four years that’s incredible! All NBA performer as well. He does whatever it takes to help a team win. He was worn down in the Finals. Didn’t play great in the Finals, wouldn’t have been there without him.
I listed it out. #14 in NBA imo. Jokic, Giannis, Luka, LBJ, KD, Steph, Tatum, Lillard, Booker, Embiid, Ja (if available) and a healthy AD and Kawhi are ahead of him. I would take him barely over Kyrie, SGA, Mitchell, and others. Great player, future HOFer..but not a top 5 superstar either.
@@thekingbradable It's close..he's more accomplished than Ja and has better intangibles. Ja has a higher ceiling though and is ascending, while Butler is riding out his peak. With Butler, he's best player on Heat..but it's more of a collective effort. It's the way Spo constructed the team. Miami has an elite HC and arguably the best GM ever in Riley. Great culture. Ja is on a lower-tier org and got them to #2 seed. Miami had a great run, but they were #8 seed to start with. I just feel like Ja can carry the load more individually, 1-on-1 because he's more gifted. I would have Ja just 1 spot ahead of him though. It's debatable. Jokic, Giannis, KD, LBJ, Steph, Luka, Embiid, and maybe Dame and Tatum are the clear superstars. Just my opinion
Team with the most points wins. Booker was 36 pts on 60-50-80 shooting splits throughoutthe playoffs. He's no slouch on defense either. After the Bucks series, Jimmy didn't have any remarkable games.
Paul Pierce won finals MVP putting up the same numbers and FG% as Butler did in this finals series and I will say this Butler didnt play well this final series but in the playoffs he had multiple 40 point games even a 50 point game and in the NBA finals 2020 he won two of the games are we for real here this is insane..
Exactly. Butler is slightly better than booker. Butler is a top 5 two way player in this league. They knock him cause his game ain't fancy like other stars. Butler isn't a superstar. But neither is booker. Both are top 15 all star players. Just butler is ranked a spot or two higher.
@@peace_of_mind_00 I think booker is a superstar. Wasn’t he first team all nba this year and last. While being one of only a few players to have back to back 40 point games in the finals in 21. Books a superstar who’s choked like a lot of others.
All I remember is 2019 free agency sign and trade everyone laughed and said he’s going there for a vacation. 2 finals in 4 years. And we’re questioning if he’s a superstar
@@toothbrush1016 2 appearances in 4 years with THOSE rosters in itself is an accomplishment. Stop using rings as a metric because in that case, is Tatum a superstar?
@@209jayy3 nah Tatum is not a superstar. When did I ever mention Tatum was?? So because Jimmy went to the finals twice hes a superstar according to you? You really gotta stop riding Jimmy this hard bro. I promise you he wont see your comments 🤣🤣
Isnt this the same show that JUST had a topic " Is Jimmy harder to guard than KD & LeBron?" ? I even took a screen shot of it to keep track of the blasphemy
Not a superstar…. Start giving Jimmy Butler the same slander Tatum got last year. Y’all seriously need to hop off Jimmy. Sure he had a great first round. But nah he’s not a superstar. A really good player though.
Dame has disappeared in EVERY playoff series ever after Round 1 -- the farthest he ever made it, CJ carried Portland that series JImmy = 2 Finals in 4 years = IM TAKING JIMMY ON MY TEAM OVER DAME
wait, your trashalking an guy thats been in cancun since before april how can he defend himself, put that man on an contender and he'll perform we're talking about one of the greatest three point shooters which in an era that has steph or klay in it only speaks volume about his game, big shot maker and taker led the league in his rookie season in go ahead game ending field goals put some respect on him
Yeah I listed it out..he's about 14-15th best player imo. Guys like Jokic, Giannis, Luka, KD, Steph are clearly better. He's in the convo w Mitchell, SGA, Fox, etc in that next tier. Def an all star, but not a superstar.
@@ganyrehs What else did he do after killing the bucks? He wasn’t the best player in any other series. He only scores when he puts his head down and tries to get fouled
You know I sit here at my desk and ponder over the implication of your words and think this. Leading a team to a finals is important and noteworthy, but in the case of Jimmy he has done it because he meshes well with the overall team. He does not have standout performances on a consistent basis as some of the other superstars. I think he leads a team that meshes well and does so in a good way but not a "great" way. When I think of superstar, I think of someone that would skew the balance of the force. Like when Lebron left Cleveland that literally changed the fate of the NBA. When Durant left OKC, that literally changed the fate of the NBA. I don't think that if Jimmy goes to another team, the NBA would change. He is good... but just not great yet.
You did not watch the series then. Caleb Martin beat us. After game 2, the celtics stopped buying Jimmy's pump fakes, and he was no where to be seen. Also Tatum was cooking Jimmy everytime he was matched up on him. Jimmy was calling for picks every time Tatum was defending him. If you think Jimmy is better than Tatum then you don't know ball 🤷♂️.
they're confusing superstar with good or great player...many players are good/great player...but superstars sell tickets...the players people pay to see....and butler is good and sometimes great but nobody is going " Butler is coming to town, I need to get tickets"
I agree that this isn't the start of a dynasty. I feel like a few teams in the west need a few tweaks and they'd be better than the Nuggets. I think the Lakers with shooters on the roster is better than the Nuggets. The Suns with actual depth would be better than the Nuggets. In the east, I still think the Celtics as is are better than the Nuggets, and I think the Sixers as is even with Harden are better if not just as good as the Nuggets, even the Bucks with some tweaks and a fully recovered Middleton are better if not just as good as the Nuggets. But they will continue to be contenders.
Winning will always validate a man’s greatness. Sadly a lot of great players are often diminished because they haven’t won a ring. Jimmy might be a player who will suffer from this. Is Jimmy an all star ? Yes is he better than the aforementioned I would take Jimmy over dame and Tatum. Both player btw are more talented,but there are clear intangibles. Winning intangibles. He won’t overwhelm you with his talent but his tenacity. Hard to really value guys like that. It’s the same thing with draymond.Draymond probably wouldn’t be good outside of golden state but you see his value and he doesn’t score much. Defends at high level. Jimmy is a great player. He’s the definition of the under dog.
Mad Dog is being silly to say he'd take Booker over Butler is a series for his life. Booker is 0-3 in elimination games in his career shooting a combined 15-49 in those games. Intangibles aren't everything but they do count. Monica is right, Butler might not be on the same level as the absolute very best players, but you can't definitely say that guys like Booker or Lillard are better than him when he has done more with the same or less
What Dog is missing is that Denver is still very young. Porter is 24 and has a high ceiling. Braun is a rookie and made a serious impact in the finals. That team can get better.
Jimmy took a team of undrafted players to the finals. Didn't need to team up with superstars to do that! And the guy beat the players espn brainwashed us into believing they are great!+
Bro stop it a lot of stars could have beaten a Giannis injured bucks team a knicks team that pretty much loses Randle due to pouting cause he sucks and a low iq Boston team lakers and suns would have beaten Miami in 6 easily this year plenty of stats could have went to the finals with that road he had
Round 1: Bucks missing Giannis for 2.5 games with a completely incompetent coach Round 2: Knicks.. who are just not a good basketball team (Jimmy shot 43% and 11% from 3) Round 3: Celtics who showed in every round how weak they were mentally with a completely incompetent coach (Jimmy shot 42% and 35% from 3) Round 4: Lost in 5 games while Jimmy shot 41% and 37% (decent) from 3. Heat had to execute and absolutely did their job, but they did it largely as a team with the best coach in the NBA leading the way. Jimmy was a superstar for 1 series and a very good player after that. Shouldn't have even won Eastern Conference Finals MVP, in my opinion.
@@OEx25 still have to give them credit regardless of circumstances. Magic won a title when Isiah was injured does it lose credit.. no raptor won when warriors were beat does it lose credit.. nope. the heat deserve the credit for this as much as jimmy is the catalyst and those role players were awesome this is just what Miami heat does they have a system that thrives in the postseason
@@OEx25 Kevin Durant last year against the Boston Celtics his numbers 38% fg, 33%3p 26ppg on 5TO a game but he’s a Superstar right I guess they can have a bad series or a bad game and still be superstars get off the gas
People act like its an insult when someone say hes a star but not a superstar lol chill out. For me hes the type of player to be the second best on the team with a really great primary star player. Like for example if the Heat would add Lillard he would be great as that second option.
Jimmy has been to 2 finals,4-5 conference finals in last 5 years, that's more than harden,embiid and a lot of guys,he is a superstar
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To be a superstar, you have to be elite and consistent offensively. Obviously defense matters and while Jimmy is an elite defender, he's an inconsistent offensive player. Putting up crazy offensive numbers puts you into the superstar category. I would consider him a star, above an all-star but not quite a superstar. Guys like Jaylen Brown, Draymond Green, Klay Thompson, Chris Paul, etc. for example would be in the same category because they don't put up numbers but can have a huge impact on the game. However, offense is more valuable than defense in today's game.
I agree. Butler isn't a superstar. Butler is a very good all-star though. He is a top 15 player in the league. That is good.
offense was always more valuable than defense. defense is important but offense sells even when Russell was winning championships it was wilt that was the talk of the town. even Jokic proves I can be dominant offensively 60 percent defensively and we still win.
Man dude played the 3 best teams in the league and 3 of the top 5 mvp vote getters in 1 playoff!
Anyone not named jimmy butler would be getting their flowers stop the hate!!!
@@andrewgiegerich8211 I'm not hating on Butler. I actually like his grit and defense. I'm just pointing out that today's standard for superstars involves elite scoring and stats. Jimmy has accomplished more than other NBA superstars have for sure. However, having a title or a great playoff run doesn't necessarily mean you are a superstar. That's what I'm getting at.
Chris Paul in his prime was a super star . Draymond has never been a star he’s been a great role player
Jimmy isn't as talented as a lot of the superstars but got that dog in him and is a leader that most of those superstars don't got either. he's his own person
exactly show me Lillard or Embid getting too the finals two times
Perfect explanation of Jimmy. Although he isn’t as ‘talented’ or ‘skilled’ he makes up for it most of the time with grit and fight.
@@alexfen14 getting farther doesnt mean a player is better 😂😂
Butler is a superstar clear cut. He''s a leader, a big dog, a all around player on both sides of the ball. He gets to the finals with a bunch of role players. Give that man his props. He just ran up against the best team in the NBA that's all.
He's a great flopper too
The disrespect for Denver started already. Not even 24 hours after winning the chip. All year they were talking about "what if the others" then they were all shook when they ran thru the play-offs.
It’s espn they have a narrative to constantly harp about.
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You know Stephen A still salty about the Warriors. He had all that talk about Steph being and Mount Rushmore blah blah blah then they lost. He can't admit they run is over 😂
Well you still can’t deny it. They’re gonna be hunted down now by every team
Half the guys he mentioned wouldn’t make it out of the first round with the surrounding roster Jimmy has
You think so because you disrespect the 'others' on that Heat roster. Jimmy Butler's true shooting percentage in ECF and finals: 51%. For context how bad that is, Westbrook's true shooting in regular season was 51.3%, Harden's TS% this postseason was 54%. He was sensational in first round, with 67% TS%. But after that he was terrible, under the standard of a regular star, not to mention a superstar.
Jimmy plays defense I get it but as first scoring option he was literally giving Heat negative production being that inefficient, in fact almost the least efficient among all players. Jimmy carried the Heat in first round, and then he was the one being carried vs Celtics.
@@Young-ep8ik he was injured, what about his performance against the bucks? Still got them past the Knicks, and played well enough to get past Boston
@@Young-ep8ik you’re also looking at two series, in 2022 he put on a show in each series and in the bubble he was elite for all 4 playoff series. The guy wins and if he wasn’t on the team they would be a lottery team
@@619AllThat Like I said he carried them vs Bucks. I know he's injured. My post was in response to OP's statement that other stars can't make the finals with Heat's supporting cast. But given how badly an injured Jimmy played, I think it's fairly likely a few other stars can make the finals if they switch with Jimmy especially in later rounds. My point was Heat had a great roster that played well enough to overcome a non-performing first option. Give the 'others' on that Heat team their respect.
Big facts
They do realize that Butler wasn't the same ever since the ankle injury against the Knicks right? But before then he was the best player in this playoffs
Jimmy single handedly took an 8 seed to the finals. Bam played fine, a couple other guys had some games where they played out of their minds here and there, but he was the backbone. He had a rough finals, but they were in Game 5 at the end because of him.
Totally agreed but his finals was soo bad. Bams numbers were better than his. Because he folded on that biggest stage i can’t decide if he’s a superstar or not
Stop wit the single handedly bs if Caleb Martin n gabe Vincent ain’t turn into the splash brothers heat wouldn’t even have went that far
Question: Stephen A do you think Nuggets will win multiple championships
SAS: No, I don't think so because they haven't won multiple championships
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Fr, the question is "do you think they'll become a dynasty" not "if they are"
I think that butler is getting all the credit from the coaching staff. His teamates that stepped up and bam played great.
It was Butler
@@gdc6153yea butler made Caleb Martin shoot 60% with 20 PPG against the Celtics
@@respectthagoat2k433 Nice!! Now tell me what was Butler's stats during that series
He’s not a superstar it just shows how great an organization is from the brain on down. They operate in greatness.
Jimmy is good but he got shutdown in the finals by everyone that guarded him. They all figured out that he was always going to turn over his left shoulder on post ups.
He was injured and gassed look who they went through just to get there
@@andrewgiegerich8211 so Jimmy gets an excuse but nobody else gets one
@@taz5440 what??? Luka got an excuse Giannis got one KD got one lebron got one
@@andrewgiegerich8211 Bro, gassed, what do you mean gassed? They were chilling in game 4 to 6 against Celtics, how are they tired from just chilling during those games and then closing game 7. He is just not clutch and not that great of a player, that's the true fact. Hopefully Heat can get better players in the off season.
@@andrewgiegerich8211Stop the dang excuses for this guy. I swear y’all never hold Jimmy accountable looool
A star with superstar moments .... definitely not a superstar
Some of these guys there talking about haven’t smelled a finals. They also had better players with them. Jimmy has been there twice with less players.
And those less players played out of their mind to get there
I only think Lebron, KD, Giannis, and Curry are superstars today. And jokic actually one too now. It's not about winning one or two playoff series and matters how you win and team chemistry. 😊
Dame is a star not a superstar. Jimmy is a star not a superstar. You have to be the best player on both ends of the floor and deliver when it counts. Lebron was a superstar for 18 years. KD was a superstar before his injury. Kawhi was a superstar before his injury. Tim Duncan was a superstar. Shaq was a superstar. Kobe was a superstar. Superstar is reserved for the elite of the elite. We have to stop devaluing the word superstar because we might hurt some people's feelings.
@@Rick-bi9fw bro what kd was never elite defensively and he a superstar so prime harden and curry were not superstars cuz of defense what are u talking about. Same one of the best shooters ever scoring 30 a nite he’s a superstar
@@WaveRider1989 I think those 5, plus Luka and Embiid..and then maybe Dame and Tatum, are the true superstars. After that, you have Booker, Mitchell, SGA..guys like that. I think Jimmy is way closer to them than those first 7 players I listed
What do I think? I believe before Denver even begins to think about becoming a dynasty the improvement of MPJ must become a real priority.(dude is 24). That said...If he works hard, stays healthy, continues to improve defensively and continues to work on his passing, "moving without the ball" and "in between game"....Denver will be tough once again. Real talk...the rookie took some of his minutes. Hopefully that will provide enough motivation for him to continue to grow. Wishing him the best.
He’s not a superstar. He’s a star though.
Not All Star
I’ve been saying he isn’t a superstar, he’s a on and off star.
Yup
He can carry at times but he can’t seal the deal for any team. Tobias Harris over me? Actually yes I would take him over you cause he doesn’t provide false hope
Part time star.
Jimmy Butler is a lower bound player whereas Tatum and Booker are upper bound players. Sports analysis always lean towards upper bound players because they sell dreams, but they always forget that dreams are unstable. What Lebron, Jokic and Steph have in common is they cover both ends of the boundary. If we really think about it, Jimmy Butler is definitely equal to Tatum and Booker. He can still score 50+ if the game requires him to do it, but he is not going to do it game after game. He can guarantee you a 20+ with a decent chemistry and a solid defense. Tatum and Booker have crazy scores much more regularly, but they can be completely invisible at times. It's as if they sabotaged the team with their nonexistent plays.
And yet he beat Tatum and Giannis with an inferior team
@@gdc6153 Yeah, consistency is so underrated in the NBA.
In my opinion I think Jimmy Butler is more like a Scottie Pippen than a Michael Jordan
Jokic is like Michael Jordan and they nearly have the same bday.. same mindset
Excellent take on comparing Butler to Pippen, never even thought of that. But I honestly think that’s the fairest comparison.
Yup. Always thought this. An extremely extremely capable 2nd option.
Pippen was better
@@hooligan5381 lmfaooo
I’m not taking booker over butler in a series to win. Butler hands down.
Giannis and Kd are many times better than butler
@@baldeagle4710 they are both better but not booker in a series. Butler was better this playoffs then both of those players though
Why is it that everyone else gets the “he doesn’t have another superstar” excuse but Jimmy doesn’t? After game 2 of the ecf the game plan was to shut down jimmy which allowed his guys to be wide open and have a historic shooting performance. Jimmy is the best two way player in basketball right now. Give him dame this summer with Bam and see what happens.
thank you!! all they care about in the league is offense. That's all that matters which is why guys like jokic, kd, curry, luka etc get to do what they do. The league is driven by offense and ppl who average 28ppg+ the ppl who do it best they want to classify as superstars. That's the standard. how many stars can carry their team to the finals, with that roster, while being the MAIN focus of attention?? lol tatum over jimmy??? yeah he couldn't do it with JB, Smart,brogdon and co. imagine jimmy with one of those stars with him and a big man next to bam?? gtfoh
u get that excuse when u play good
Jordan: My son cannot be this unclutch.
Love the respect Stephen A showing Tatum and the Celtics lately. Especially we been getting torn to pieces lately the past 2-3 weeks😂
He's not held accountable for not performing well like other Superstars do. He's an Allstar that can play like a Superstar in playoff series or 2
He just happens to beat all the people that are superstars
he can play like a superstar for a few games. Not even entire series.
@@MrGenexxx what?? Bucks-Boston he played like an Superstar
@@MrGenexxx he played like a superstar the entire 2020 Finals, even vs the Bucks this year
@@RealRobbyRobb meh everybody played like a superstar in the bubble. And the Bucks were injured.
For me a superstar is a person you're willing to pay a super max as a realistically competing team, and if I ran an actively and realistically competing NBA organization I wouldn't be willing to pay Jimmy the supermax, I'd pay him, but just not the supermax.
Would u pay kyrie and take kyrie over jimmy 🤔🤔??
I'm taking jimmy
@@jasonj7755 In this case me too, but Kyrie's mentality is trash, and even though he is a way better offensive player, Kyrie especially does not carry any team.
He’s in that grey area between all star and superstar. Top 5 two way player but as a heat fan I can say he’s wayyyyy too inconsistent offensively for him to be a superstar
He’s a tier below the superstars. Which is really just JOKIC, Curry, Giannis and Luka.
Tatum?
@@kaysheye7784nope , not quite there
*Best players are mentioned first*
Best : Jokic
On his level: Giannis, Lj, Curry, KD
Dame, ( healthy Kawhi ) ,
On the cusp/ALL NBA : Jimmy , Luka, ja , zion, (Healhy PG13), Booker
Taytum/Brown , Embiid. Etc
All Stars/top 30 :
Etc etc
@@buddyboy4438 what does he need to do, he's achieved more than Luka btw
@@buddyboy4438 I was witcha until you threw in Kwahi…. you gotta actually PLAY basketball to get on the list bro
Career wise he ain’t a superstar but just for these playoffs he’s had super star moments
If ur scoring game requires you to make a ton of free throws to get to 30 points you are not a superstar. Idc how good you are on defense, there’s a reason Jaren Jackson Jr is not a superstar and Luka Doncic is. Jimmy butler when he doesn’t get bailed out by the refs can barely average 20 ppg. And not one single time since the bucks series did he put this team on his back and take them to the finish line. These are the superstars in my mind. Kevin Durant, Lebron James, Nikola Jokic, Giannis Antentokounpo, Jayson Tatum, Steph Curry, Luka Doncic, Damian Lillard, Joel Embiid, and imo Shai Gilgeous-Alexander. Those are the NBA’s superstars. Jimmy Butler is a star and a great player, but he was not good this postseason since the bucks series. He wasn’t the best player in the Knicks series (Jalen Brunson), the Celtics series (Jayson Tatum), or in the Nuggets series (Nikola Jokic). I’m gonna ask y’all a question, and if you decide to respond to this comment I ask you to rly ask yourself. What has Jimmy Butler accomplished without Erik Spolestra? He had many talented teams in Chicago, didn’t do anything. He had a very talented team in Minnesota, but there he couldn’t be a leader and teach KAT and Wiggins how to be professionals. In Philly, he had his most talented team, couldn’t get out of the 2nd round. And now in Miami you expect me to believe that Jimmy butler is carrying these lesser talented teams?! No he wasn’t, Eric Spolestra was winning 40+ games with Goran Dragic as the best player. Jimmy butler is not the reason the heat are good, Eric Spolestra is!
These are just big facts
Thank you period
I agree with everything you stated 👍
Big facts. Don’t forget them teams with Bron and Wade supporting cast played there roles better then most championship teams but wasn’t more talented. Cost them a 3 peat against spurs. But nobody talks about how amazing a coaching job Spo did during that 4 years
where it gets tricky is the lack of competition in terms of big men like shot blockers n big presences Jokic has had to face but that’s just the modern nba so can’t really hold it against him
Wasn't AD the best defender in the league apparently until Joker put him into the sunken place
@@Mr91Jmay lol AD is easily the best defender in the league
We hold Bill Russels era against him, LeBrons era against him we shouldn’t do that for either player but if you are one of the guys that do, you should keep that same energy
He's productive and i'll take him any day on my team......... "Star" not a super star........I watched Jimmy grow up me and his sister dated for years.....I would have never thought he would make it to the league.......He was a cool tall country kid growing up lol I applaud him ✊🏿💯❤️ my little brother ✊🏿
When Butler saw Jovic in the lane, he folded point blank. He folded in some instances. Play to stay alive and he didn't.
Dude Thank you saying the FKN TRUUUTH!! What do Butler Lebron and AD have in common? They gave jock itch wide open buckets…SEVERAL TIMES!!!!!!!
The disrespect to Denver and Butler alone is shameful. Smh.
Kyrie is a trash superstar
The jimmy butler disrespect is crazy he’s been to the finals 2 times . There’s literally players in the NBA they call superstars that have never been to the finals smh . Look at Miami roster they should’ve have got that far before the ankle injury butler was balling . They need to give brah his props and stop hating
Butler is overrated
Lol so he’s top 4 like Monica said than right??? Bro stop it
It's about individual production. Jimmy doesn't have the same level of individual performance as the actual superstars. Making the finals doesn't make you a superstar.
He is still not a superstar. Sorry not sorry.
@@smoothsavage2870no lol basketball is a team sport and he took 1 of the least talented teams in the playoffs and came close to beating the 3 best teams this year
Thought that was skip in the thumbnail for a sec lol
If the Heat played a different team and won no one would say this about Jimmy 💯💯
Jimmy 0-2 in finals ouch 😂😂😭
Lebron: "Gotta pump those numbers up. Those are rookie numbers in this racket."
Youre 0-0 in the finals
@@mattsteiner8788 Meh, Bron has a bad Finals record, but still at least 4 rings, it's decent
@@gersonsintjago3025 9th best all tyme
Booker over Jimmy is hilarious
its facts
Can’t believe they serious
The minute someone contradicts her she takes out that hood vibe 😂
Steven A eyes so low he is definitely enjoying his time in Denver if you know what I mean ⛽️
He’s not a superstar but he regularly beats superstars with better teams? Make it make sense
Superstars are consistent he is not. His role won more games than he did this post season
Which superstars he beat other than Giannis lol?
🤔🤔 facts bro!!!!!!
He was only a superstar against Milwaukee
@@bradleyjacks2691 Tatum and Embiid
Hes taken his team futher than Chris paul, Carmelo Anthony, and Dame Dollar EVER has
Idk about that one . CP3 won two games in the finals. But I agree with you
@@yacobhaile9582 true but Jimmy's been there twice and was the leader both times. Chris is the 3rd best player on his team now (if that)
Look at what team dame has to face in the west. Best teammate dame got was cj and thry could only get 2nd rounders for him 😂
@@jmrayos9930 4 other players, protected first and 2 second rounders. you can't read?
@@yacobhaile9582 so did Jimmy Butler in 2020
Jimmy Butler is a regular season star and a postseason superstar
How can you call him a postseason super star after this disappointing Finals
@@alexanderdoran4568
Lebron was worse in 2011 finals, still was a superstar
Mcnut, truly is a nut for that take
Mad dog right as usual
Hold up. You said a series you need to win, you should take Butler over Booker.
Not a superstar... just a really good player
Not really good but really decent.
“Decent players” don’t drop 56 in playoff games
@@8MunchenBayern8he was just in the zone
How fast they turn 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Jimmy Butler knows he needs his team to be included into the success
Half of the people he mentioned will never make it out of the first round
Jimmy is the definition of a TRUE Number 2 Guy. Nothing wrong with that. He is a Star but the term "Superstar" is used to loosely now a days. There a reason why Jimmy is never mentioned alongside Upper Tier Stars in the League. Superstars are also players that are marketable, endorsed, & carries a brand. Jimmy doesn't have any of that.
See Donovan Mitchell. Polar opposites and neither one of them are superstars
no it's because Jimmy is not your LeBron or Steph or DBook or Tatum he wasn't drafted highly and he was considered for a long time a cancer to a team, and now the media and people still can't accept that they were wrong, that Jimmy was never the problem and until he wins a championship nobody will admit that they were wrong and will continue to doubt him, remember last year when him and UD and Spo was screaming at each other and people were so quick to jump to the narratives that they were imploding when they were the literal 1 seed, legends like Pip were talking about his attitude this and that and everyone just went with the narrative because they didn't like seeing a player like Jimmy who wasn't drafted highly, who isn't flashy, who doesn't play by the media's narratives beat those narratives
Mad Dog is right. Yes it is murky BUT you need consistent source of offense. Superstars are source of consistent offense. Yes they play some bad games but they're numbers is still significant compared to an average nba player.
I like how the narrative is like ‘Jimmy was able to take these teams to two finals’ yet we were talking about the heat team during these playoffs as being great.
You can be a great team with no superstars and get to the finals, and win. Detroit
He's a superstar. That team had no business making it that far. But there's levels to this...
Exactly
Fact all true points
@Lil Curt wym? Did you not watch the heats run?
No he’s not and you don’t know the definition of a superstar in the NBA
Superstar is dedicated for few players and Butler isnt one of them.
Jimmy is NOT him. He’s a great sidekick but not the number one option. He should’ve never left Embiid smh
Embiid has no NBA finals appearance though!?
You casuals make no sense
I miss Michael Irvin, he was amazing on tv
Jimmy butler killed Tatum this year. Maybe not on numbers but jimmy is better defensively.
Jimmy is better team player. But Detroit 2004 didn't have any superstars, but great team for 4+ years.
lmao killed. Delusional. Tatum was cooking Jimmy whenever they matched up, on the offensive end and defensive end.
But he just beat Giannis and Tatum with a worse supporting cast.
great but how does he not show up in the finals is the problem he did all that “playoff basketball” just to get to the big stage and
be 5-14 going into the 4th quarter for 3 straight games
Giannis was hurt
Still didn’t win anything.
Facts
He beat the bucks,without Giannis, and the heat beat the Celtics. Was only the best player in one series
Its crazy that all the finals news is under 15k views.
Stop throwing dirt on Kawhi's championship
Butler is a Superstar hands down! He and his team has beaten the best teams and best players in the playoffs. Two Finals in Four years that’s incredible! All NBA performer as well. He does whatever it takes to help a team win. He was worn down in the Finals. Didn’t play great in the Finals, wouldn’t have been there without him.
not a superstar didnt play great since the first round
I listed it out. #14 in NBA imo. Jokic, Giannis, Luka, LBJ, KD, Steph, Tatum, Lillard, Booker, Embiid, Ja (if available) and a healthy AD and Kawhi are ahead of him. I would take him barely over Kyrie, SGA, Mitchell, and others. Great player, future HOFer..but not a top 5 superstar either.
He’s better than Booker, Tatum, Lillard and Ja lol 🤣
@@Macaxeira432He’s better than Ja, but that’s about it
I'll take sga and irving
@@thekingbradable he’s def better than booker lol 😆
@@thekingbradable It's close..he's more accomplished than Ja and has better intangibles. Ja has a higher ceiling though and is ascending, while Butler is riding out his peak. With Butler, he's best player on Heat..but it's more of a collective effort. It's the way Spo constructed the team. Miami has an elite HC and arguably the best GM ever in Riley. Great culture. Ja is on a lower-tier org and got them to #2 seed. Miami had a great run, but they were #8 seed to start with. I just feel like Ja can carry the load more individually, 1-on-1 because he's more gifted. I would have Ja just 1 spot ahead of him though. It's debatable. Jokic, Giannis, KD, LBJ, Steph, Luka, Embiid, and maybe Dame and Tatum are the clear superstars. Just my opinion
The line where the first all star meets that last superstar, that is where Jimmy Butler can be found.
getting another mvp caliber superstar to add on to the one they have already like the warriors did could assist Denver in making their dynasty
So she thinks that Jimmy is on the level of Jokic? Get her off the show
Jokic wouldn’t have made it to 2 out of the last 4 finals with Miami
What??? The debate was whether he’s a superstar not whether he’s as good as Jokic, what were you watching
These guys are causals all they care about is scoring! Butler>Booker all day everyday!!!
Team with the most points wins.
Booker was 36 pts on 60-50-80 shooting splits throughoutthe playoffs. He's no slouch on defense either.
After the Bucks series, Jimmy didn't have any remarkable games.
@@dbzhafan and how far did those 36 pts get Booker?
Mad dog finally got a decent take for once.
Paul Pierce won finals MVP putting up the same numbers and FG% as Butler did in this finals series and I will say this Butler didnt play well this final series but in the playoffs he had multiple 40 point games even a 50 point game and in the NBA finals 2020 he won two of the games are we for real here this is insane..
All about narrative
Butler is not booker? Yes, he is better
True all they care about is scoring disappointing
Exactly. Butler is slightly better than booker. Butler is a top 5 two way player in this league. They knock him cause his game ain't fancy like other stars. Butler isn't a superstar. But neither is booker. Both are top 15 all star players. Just butler is ranked a spot or two higher.
@@peace_of_mind_00 I think booker is a superstar. Wasn’t he first team all nba this year and last. While being one of only a few players to have back to back 40 point games in the finals in 21. Books a superstar who’s choked like a lot of others.
@@dirkglenjr.9299 before CP3 / Ayton arrived Booker didnt make the playoffs
All I remember is 2019 free agency sign and trade everyone laughed and said he’s going there for a vacation. 2 finals in 4 years. And we’re questioning if he’s a superstar
2 finals in 4 years and how many rings?
@@toothbrush1016 2 appearances in 4 years with THOSE rosters in itself is an accomplishment. Stop using rings as a metric because in that case, is Tatum a superstar?
@@209jayy3 nah Tatum is not a superstar. When did I ever mention Tatum was?? So because Jimmy went to the finals twice hes a superstar according to you? You really gotta stop riding Jimmy this hard bro. I promise you he wont see your comments 🤣🤣
@@209jayy3 yo also now that you brought up Jayson. Give Jimmy the same slander you were most likely giving Tatum last year.
stephen said 'It's not about how many championships you get, but how many finals you can win'
Jimmy put the love spell on Monica it could only be… ive never heard her throw the cape on this hard for any other player
2 Finals appearances...COOL, are we hanging banners for that now???
some teams do hang their Conference Title banners
Clippers even hang their Division Title banner lol
@Trevor Philips I get it if that all you have but the heat have prior chips
Plenty of hall of famers that have done less
Isnt this the same show that JUST had a topic " Is Jimmy harder to guard than KD & LeBron?" ? I even took a screen shot of it to keep track of the blasphemy
Not a superstar…. Start giving Jimmy Butler the same slander Tatum got last year. Y’all seriously need to hop off Jimmy.
Sure he had a great first round. But nah he’s not a superstar. A really good player though.
He's like Ron Artest in Houston. He's a star by default on his team but nothing compared to actual superstars.
Dame has disappeared in EVERY playoff series ever after Round 1 -- the farthest he ever made it, CJ carried Portland that series
JImmy = 2 Finals in 4 years = IM TAKING JIMMY ON MY TEAM OVER DAME
He ain't doing that in the west
Still getting you 0 titles regardless 😂
You think Jimmy Butler is Better than Damian Lillard? Like fr though?
wait, your trashalking an guy thats been in cancun since before april how can he defend himself, put that man on an contender and he'll perform
we're talking about one of the greatest three point shooters which in an era that has steph or klay in it only speaks volume about his game, big shot maker and taker led the league in his rookie season in go ahead game ending field goals put some respect on him
Ykb
most resilient type of player with alot of fighting spirit,, but not yet on a level of a superstar,, like lbj, steph and kevin,,
In a short series win for my life I’m taking Jimmy SIMPLE 2:20
Jimmy is a superstar, idk what else does he need to prove?...he gets results everywhere he goes
You must be on ❄️
Lol after lebron and kd it gets murky. Neither are top 5 atm
A superstar would takeover scoring, when the Teams its struggle, Butler isnt that guy.
Easy for Tatum to average 30 when he gets the offense ran through him and he chucks up so many shots
Jimmy better than Tatum too
Nah bro
Jayson Tatum better than jimmy butler n Tatum is a underrated defender
Had Tatum not rolled his ankle, he was going to give the Heat 50.
@@REALJayDOTWill I wouldn’t say 50 cuz heat get scrappy defensively they better defensively than 76ers but easily 25+
If Jimmy is a superstar then half the league is superstars, I mean you got people that believe Draymond Green is a superstar 🤷🏾♂️
Yeah I listed it out..he's about 14-15th best player imo. Guys like Jokic, Giannis, Luka, KD, Steph are clearly better. He's in the convo w Mitchell, SGA, Fox, etc in that next tier. Def an all star, but not a superstar.
No one thinks Draymond is a superstar Lmaoooo.
As at last season jokic wasn't jimmy buckets according to the media
Sick advocat 48
Miami went to finals twice recently because of coaching, not Butler.
Hello no. It was because of Butler.
Definitely Butler. He killed Bucks and started a hot streak.
@@ganyrehs What else did he do after killing the bucks? He wasn’t the best player in any other series. He only scores when he puts his head down and tries to get fouled
Naaaahhhhh..... Players have save Spoelstra not Spoelstra players career. He is not a good coach at all.
You can’t lead a team to the finals twice without being a superstar
You know I sit here at my desk and ponder over the implication of your words and think this.
Leading a team to a finals is important and noteworthy, but in the case of Jimmy he has done it because he meshes well with the overall team. He does not have standout performances on a consistent basis as some of the other superstars. I think he leads a team that meshes well and does so in a good way but not a "great" way.
When I think of superstar, I think of someone that would skew the balance of the force. Like when Lebron left Cleveland that literally changed the fate of the NBA. When Durant left OKC, that literally changed the fate of the NBA. I don't think that if Jimmy goes to another team, the NBA would change. He is good... but just not great yet.
There’s levels and he’s not in the superstar tier
If he was in west, no finals
That's not true
@@dreg5845you can say the same thing about half of Lebron's finals trips
Yes
kay thompson was a two way player,
This whole league is about deferrence now. Give up a good shot for a great shot. Jimmy Butler beat Jayson Tatum up this year. Thats a bad comparison.
You did not watch the series then. Caleb Martin beat us. After game 2, the celtics stopped buying Jimmy's pump fakes, and he was no where to be seen. Also Tatum was cooking Jimmy everytime he was matched up on him. Jimmy was calling for picks every time Tatum was defending him. If you think Jimmy is better than Tatum then you don't know ball 🤷♂️.
He was a superstar for the Milwaukee series and the Boston series. It’s not a perpetual title, you have to maintain it.
He really wasn’t for the Boston series except for two games
they're confusing superstar with good or great player...many players
are good/great player...but superstars sell tickets...the players people pay to see....and butler is good and sometimes great but nobody is going " Butler is coming to town, I need to get tickets"
I agree that this isn't the start of a dynasty. I feel like a few teams in the west need a few tweaks and they'd be better than the Nuggets. I think the Lakers with shooters on the roster is better than the Nuggets. The Suns with actual depth would be better than the Nuggets. In the east, I still think the Celtics as is are better than the Nuggets, and I think the Sixers as is even with Harden are better if not just as good as the Nuggets, even the Bucks with some tweaks and a fully recovered Middleton are better if not just as good as the Nuggets. But they will continue to be contenders.
Winning will always validate a man’s greatness. Sadly a lot of great players are often diminished because they haven’t won a ring. Jimmy might be a player who will suffer from this. Is Jimmy an all star ? Yes is he better than the aforementioned I would take Jimmy over dame and Tatum. Both player btw are more talented,but there are clear intangibles. Winning intangibles. He won’t overwhelm you with his talent but his tenacity. Hard to really value guys like that. It’s the same thing with draymond.Draymond probably wouldn’t be good outside of golden state but you see his value and he doesn’t score much. Defends at high level. Jimmy is a great player. He’s the definition of the under dog.
Mad Dog is being silly to say he'd take Booker over Butler is a series for his life. Booker is 0-3 in elimination games in his career shooting a combined 15-49 in those games. Intangibles aren't everything but they do count.
Monica is right, Butler might not be on the same level as the absolute very best players, but you can't definitely say that guys like Booker or Lillard are better than him when he has done more with the same or less
What Dog is missing is that Denver is still very young. Porter is 24 and has a high ceiling. Braun is a rookie and made a serious impact in the finals. That team can get better.
Exactly the fkn finals was RIGGED AND SCRIPTED!!!!!!!
Jimmy took a team of undrafted players to the finals. Didn't need to team up with superstars to do that! And the guy beat the players espn brainwashed us into believing they are great!+
Bro stop it a lot of stars could have beaten a Giannis injured bucks team a knicks team that pretty much loses Randle due to pouting cause he sucks and a low iq Boston team lakers and suns would have beaten Miami in 6 easily this year plenty of stats could have went to the finals with that road he had
Round 1: Bucks missing Giannis for 2.5 games with a completely incompetent coach
Round 2: Knicks.. who are just not a good basketball team (Jimmy shot 43% and 11% from 3)
Round 3: Celtics who showed in every round how weak they were mentally with a completely incompetent coach (Jimmy shot 42% and 35% from 3)
Round 4: Lost in 5 games while Jimmy shot 41% and 37% (decent) from 3.
Heat had to execute and absolutely did their job, but they did it largely as a team with the best coach in the NBA leading the way. Jimmy was a superstar for 1 series and a very good player after that. Shouldn't have even won Eastern Conference Finals MVP, in my opinion.
@@OEx25 still have to give them credit regardless of circumstances. Magic won a title when Isiah was injured does it lose credit.. no raptor won when warriors were beat does it lose credit.. nope. the heat deserve the credit for this as much as jimmy is the catalyst and those role players were awesome this is just what Miami heat does they have a system that thrives in the postseason
@@bigda6407 Ydkb, the Suns have no rim protection or depth. CP3 wasn't even healthy this year.
@@OEx25 Kevin Durant last year against the Boston Celtics his numbers 38% fg, 33%3p 26ppg on 5TO a game but he’s a Superstar right I guess they can have a bad series or a bad game and still be superstars get off the gas
Booker has now 2 years in a row when he was -30 to the halftime in the decisive home games. How can anyone pick him ahead of Butler for the GAME?!
People act like its an insult when someone say hes a star but not a superstar lol chill out. For me hes the type of player to be the second best on the team with a really great primary star player. Like for example if the Heat would add Lillard he would be great as that second option.