Why Virgin Atlantic Cancelled Its Airbus A380 Order

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  • @afh7689
    @afh7689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I would have loved to see a regular A380 operating to Orlando. It was one of the few airports in the world capable of handling an A380 (in terms of runaway/taxiway size, but a better gate would be needed than those for 747s) before the A380 began commercial operations (because it was a deviation airport for the space shuttle). Pre-covid it seemed like a bajillion Brits visited Orlando each year and Virgin connected MCO to about 7-8 UK airports (LGW & MAN daily year-round, others seasonally). I recall MCO's twitter account tweeting about 6 VA & BA 747s parked at the same time at gates at MCO. LGW-MCO would have certainly been one of their A380 routes.
    Despite being ready for the A380 before it's introduction, MCO has only seen a handful of diversions of Miami-bound flights waiting on the tarmac for weather to clear at MIA and just 3 A380 flights (inaugural Emirates flight, and two Qantas charters first dropping off Aussie sweepstakes winners at Disney World and then returning several days later to pick them up). Quite a shame the airport will almost certainly never see A380 service again.

  • @milanb5735
    @milanb5735 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Everyone: thinking about a380
    Me: crying that all 747s are being retired

    • @jpb2541
      @jpb2541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      in my eyes it is the other way around 😂

    • @milanb5735
      @milanb5735 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jpb2541 lol

    • @jpb2541
      @jpb2541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@milanb5735 but Lufthansa is still flying their 747-8s

    • @vaskarmitra6411
      @vaskarmitra6411 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Samee brooo .......the queennnnnnn

    • @milanb5735
      @milanb5735 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@vaskarmitra6411 of the skies

  • @BUMA-jt2ie
    @BUMA-jt2ie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I am sad that airlines have retired the Airbus A380 and Boeing 747

  • @mikestone9129
    @mikestone9129 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    VA is counting it's lucky stars right now for having dropped all orders of the 380. The pandemic has proven them right. But if they change their mind in the near future, there's a bunch of 380's for sale right now and get them for pennies on the dollar.

    • @jvillan94
      @jvillan94 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It didn't take a pandemic to bring the A380 down. It was already on a downward spiral way before then.

    • @siyaaviation3659
      @siyaaviation3659 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jvillan94 yeah

    • @johniii8147
      @johniii8147 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It was dead long before the pandemic.

    • @jonahsgang8830
      @jonahsgang8830 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johniii8147 sadly your right

  • @justplanenuts5541
    @justplanenuts5541 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It is sad because this was the livery I was looking forward to seeing in the A380. I grew up watching the 380 being tested and seeing it when I was 13 at Farnborough in 06. Just sad to see it fail.

  • @pauldowner1
    @pauldowner1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A380 is a nice model.. On my table!

  • @bjoe385
    @bjoe385 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    1:55 RIP ATC.

  • @johnpoindexter6594
    @johnpoindexter6594 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Now they can buy six of them for peanuts!

  • @stradivarioushardhiantz5179
    @stradivarioushardhiantz5179 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cancelling A380 then operates A350-1000 was a smart desicion 🛫🤓

  • @zippygundoo5852
    @zippygundoo5852 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    How about a story on why Qantas cancelled their remaining, long standing orders for the A380 & how successfully their current fleet were operating prior to the pandemic?

  • @ecclestonsangel
    @ecclestonsangel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    They did make the correct decision. Hub and spoke flying is obsolete now More carriers are flying point to point routes, and the big behemoth doesn't cut it. Especially now with COVID. I predicted, and Simple Flying confirmed, that the future of airline travel is narrowbodies. There will be widebodies still in use, but just on ultra longhaul trips. The US has already done away with widebodies on transcon flights. They're starting to use narrowbodie on overnight flights from JFK-LHR. I suspect they'll cut waaaay back on widebodies in the future, too.

    • @gpaull2
      @gpaull2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hub and spoke was on the decline before the A380 was even conceived. Who wouldn’t rather fly direct? Boeing was much smarter to ignore Airbus and design the Dreamliner instead.

  • @zeroturbulence1359
    @zeroturbulence1359 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The A380 program was doomed from the beginning because the plane was too big to fill with enough people to make it profitable and it could only land at a few airports with extended runways and specially designed gates for boarding. If it wasn't for Emirates, the program wouldn't have lasted 10 years.

  • @cybersquire
    @cybersquire 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The A380 is the textbook definition of the right product at the wrong time. No one can tell the future. and in the 90s a superjumbo made sense. It is an engineering masterpiece that unfortunately is too specialized to be consistently profitable for most carriers.
    Virgin made to right call-the future belongs to twinjets.

    • @aseem7w9
      @aseem7w9 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The A350 is much more of a engineering masterpiece than A380

  • @TravisMartin-l4q
    @TravisMartin-l4q 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Virgin Atlantic were supposed to be one if not the launch customer but after Singapore Airlines sold their 49% share to Delta, the order was cancelled.

    • @largol33t1
      @largol33t1 ปีที่แล้ว

      That's because Delta wanted freebies with the plane
      That's how Boeing is getting orders for its 737MAX, they're offering free maintenance on them for a short period of time.

  • @sethtan715
    @sethtan715 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's good that they ordered more fuel efficient planes like the A330neo, A350 and 787 than the gigantic A380.

  • @ukaviationofficial
    @ukaviationofficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow great video

  • @beboy12003
    @beboy12003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I say it was a great move. The A380, while it's an impressive aircraft, it's simply too big. No airport would spend the money to accommodate the A380. It was also too heavy for some airport runways. It's also too late for the market. Had it came out when the 747 did, it would be a money maker.

    • @aseem7w9
      @aseem7w9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Of course. If other planes like 777-300ER didn't exist, A380 would've succeeded.

    • @lolorick5885
      @lolorick5885 ปีที่แล้ว

      BHX accommodated the A380

  • @commonsense3482
    @commonsense3482 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like others the A380 could be a good value purchase second hand for Virgin Atlantic possibly for their London to New York route for when the traffic returned to pre-pandemic level as is the case for a number of airlines who have recently disposed of vast numbers of longhaul aircraft including their fleets of the B747 or older B777 and Airbus aircraft. Having said this, the A380 operating costs are still too high, so it is a shame to see production coming to a stop however I believe in the long-term now there is a demand for a even more fuel-efficient, cost effective version of the type. Hopefully this will be something that Airbus will be able to investigate moving forward as I suspect the Boeing 747-800 will remain an option for potential high capacity purchases.
    There is also a strong case for both Airbus and Boeing to develop an aircraft to fit into the 767 style/capacity market. We will seek a travel return to 2019 levels after approximately five years of postpandemic recovery and this I believe will see airlines looking at more fuel efficient aircraft with increased capacity per flight to overcome the slot availability issues as we also see more point to point operations launched. A lot of this growth will be within the longhaul market there will be a shorthaul requirement of reducing potentially frequency over capacity as the long haul routes with new point to point services will become more popular and importantly more financially lucrative for the airlines.
    On another aviation TH-cam page there was a discussion about the potential development of the 787-300 a shortened version of the dream liner designed to meet the current 757/767 market needs to make it competitive with Airbus and their range of the A320/321 family of aircraft. Yes I believe there is a market for a single aisle aircraft especially routes serving either runway length or much longer demand routes so there is a clear longterm future for the current Airbus and Boeing products however with scope for a fuel efficient 250-325 capacity twin aisle aircraft with two forward doors for high demand short distance routes. On the short distance routes I can see there being a reduced need for business class cabin space and as demonstrated with the 767 300 if this is before door 2 left then the boarding experience for business class passengers will be improved as well as with multiple routes deplaning allowing for quicker turn around times making the turn around time more competitive against single forward door single aisle aircraft even if only using door 2L on the wide bodied aircraft.
    The interoperability and familiarisation between Airbus cockpits is something that I can see as an appealing step moving forward to and this will be something I expect to also see further development in as the short/mid range market changes. In terms of fleet standardisation I think this will become more common place so I can see the potential for airlines seeking manufacturers to have more parts that are cross the range of aircraft approved to reduce the variety needing to be stored in hangers around the world so if Airbus and / or Boeing were to look at using standardised parts across more of their product range whilst offering a fuel efficient, reliable and cost effective service I could see a return to the closer relationships we saw airlines enjoying with one of these manufacturers again potentially offering airlines a preferred supplier favourable deal when making fleet acquisitions either for the existing brands we see or potentially a new sub brand for short haul to clear distinguish between the shorthaul (limited service) and longhaul (full service) products.
    On the subject of the short verses longhaul market it is my belief that with the success of LCC airlines operating in both markets have to be careful to clearly distinguish the level of service that their customers should expect. The dilution of the legacy full service product airlines to compete with LCCs especially on shorter routes has seen an overall reduction in service standards and a dividing of the brand even if with names like Shuttle, Express etc and potentially the use of IATA and ICAO codes to distinguish between the two products I think would strengthen their position in the longhaul market with a clearer message to customers S an staff alike the service levels that should be expected/delivered.

  • @RedLP5000S
    @RedLP5000S 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Delta always makes good decisions.

  • @cskvision
    @cskvision 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    With BA ordering and taking the jet, It would’ve been 2 big fish in a small bowl. The UK market size isn’t big enough to have 2 major A380 operators in Britain.

  • @MarktheSharkC
    @MarktheSharkC 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Smart move not taking the 380s but hate their decision to ground 747 and not to have got in on the 777x! That’s Delta mind thought!

  • @NeilPrasad_1905
    @NeilPrasad_1905 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    At least there would have been only one A380 for Virgin apart from the A350s

  • @DavidMarfe
    @DavidMarfe 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I knew they were never gonna take it as they don’t have a hanger to support the plane. And doubt they were gonna spend the money to purchase or build one.

  • @gpaull2
    @gpaull2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hub and spoke was on the decline before the A380 was even conceived. Who wouldn’t rather fly direct? Boeing was smart to ignore Airbus and design the Dreamliner instead.

  • @theoschofield1495
    @theoschofield1495 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I would have loved to see the a380 in their fleet but it was a very wise decision to cancel the order

  • @fredpeckham7948
    @fredpeckham7948 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes

  • @MatteoMariano
    @MatteoMariano 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Good move from the airline- but I would have LOVED to see what they put on board lol

  • @AdrianPrath
    @AdrianPrath 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I've never flown on a A380 :-(

    • @ArkadyRenko1
      @ArkadyRenko1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You have till 2028.

    • @AdrianPrath
      @AdrianPrath 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ArkadyRenko1 Is there still an airline (except Emirates) that will continue operating the A380 after Covid?

    • @ArkadyRenko1
      @ArkadyRenko1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@AdrianPrath Lufthansa, Cathay Pacific

    • @MarcusNesbitt4
      @MarcusNesbitt4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And probably BA

    • @aseem7w9
      @aseem7w9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ArkadyRenko1 Lufthansa has planned to phase out A380 soon, Cathay Pacific has none

  • @mingming9604
    @mingming9604 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    the 777 hammered in the first nail in the coffin for the A380 even before it first flew...

    • @aseem7w9
      @aseem7w9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep. The 777-300ER killed all quad jets.

  • @alexnutcasio936
    @alexnutcasio936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Simple answer: it's a dinosaur.

    • @christoohunders5316
      @christoohunders5316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      A dinosaur adored by travellers who had the chance to experience it !

    • @alexnutcasio936
      @alexnutcasio936 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Did Quantas and except for its sheer size, not impressed. They'll all be mothballed soon or be turned into freighters. Adios 380...

    • @aseem7w9
      @aseem7w9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@christoohunders5316 I got to travel on Etihad and Emirates A380 but honestly, it's not too different from other new planes

  • @chandrachurniyogi8394
    @chandrachurniyogi8394 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this may sound funny but it's true!!! strongly believe there's still a market for the A380 but not the A380-800!!! instead it's the A380-900 Neo which was to be a stretched variant of the A380-800!!! a super stretched variant of the A380-800 known as the A380-1000 Neo LR was also conceived by AIRBUS at a time when the A350-900 & A350-1000 was launched!!! but unfortunately the A380-1000 Neo LR plan was scrapped!!! the A380-1000 Neo LR was based on the same concept parallel to that of the A350-1000 only that incase of the A380-1000 Neo LR it was a much larger aircraft with double the paxs capacity & more than acceptable long range!!!

    • @MarcusNesbitt4
      @MarcusNesbitt4 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You just cant fill flights with that amount of people, no matter how popular the route, thats why no other variants were built

    • @aseem7w9
      @aseem7w9 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's more chances of 777-10 than another A380

  • @we-hb4ni
    @we-hb4ni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good decision for sure.

  • @gyanesh97
    @gyanesh97 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Richard Branson unlike Sir Tim Clarke didn't exactly use economies of scale nor it did have a perfectly partnership like BA has with AA (through oneworld) and a Booming LHR to make sure A380 will sustain. BA directly or indirectly replaced A380 on the routes it did with B747 and in the coming future will replace both of them with the 777X and their route network justifies that. VA on the other hand made it look like a leisurely airline and its initial business models didn't fit the A380. Probably had Virgin made Gatwick or Manchester a fully fledged hub like BA did with LHR, it would have made more sense to order the A380 but by the time, the axe was already done and it looks good given the current scenario with virgin more than with BA.

  • @kingofalldoughboys
    @kingofalldoughboys 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why are you obsessed with the a-380?

  • @aviation1912
    @aviation1912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    can i ask why the old virgin livery

    • @aviationcrg5306
      @aviationcrg5306 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bc when it was on order that was the livery

    • @aviation1912
      @aviation1912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aviationcrg5306 ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

  • @gooner72
    @gooner72 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Even though I love the A380 as she's an engineering marvel but........ she's only really commercially viable when rammed to the rafters on super long haul routes.
    The A350 is a far better option for airlines, it's a far more frugal on fuel economy.

  • @PerhapsPh
    @PerhapsPh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    There was only one wrong decision about the A380: Airbus decided to built it.

    • @christoohunders5316
      @christoohunders5316 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      At least they didn't name it A3XX-Max !

    • @Think_Inc
      @Think_Inc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@christoohunders5316 Was that a joke, ‘cause if it was, it is the worst joke I’ve seen in centuries.

  • @JRobert111111
    @JRobert111111 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It sounds like at the end of the video when it goes into a merch. plug, that the narrator is on helium and speed. Might want to rerecord that. The A380 is a beautiful plane, but just not the right fit for the times.

  • @alexeimscruz2893
    @alexeimscruz2893 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I fear even the Boeing 777X might meet the same fate as the 747 despite the efficiency of its jet engines by virtue of its immense size as the successor to the 747 and also due to the present needs of the remaining airlines operating in this tough pandemic times...

  • @michaelf.h8507
    @michaelf.h8507 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    VA should never have ordered the A 380 in the first place. It can not fly to all the airports their 747 's can operate from. VA is a good but tiny airline which to be brutally honest has rarely made a profit . They punch well above their weight with good marketing and excellent customer service but Singapore divested their large shareholding to Delta which says all one needs to know..

  • @ernestmachpro3341
    @ernestmachpro3341 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I always thought Virgin Atlantic has made a good advertising with A380 without paying anything...

  • @larryhou968
    @larryhou968 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Delta

  • @rk8251
    @rk8251 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i meant a380

  • @jacquesraymond6892
    @jacquesraymond6892 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    ANYWAY... Now with the pandemic effects, most of airlines companies who were operating the A380 (except EMIRATES) are getting ride of it. Same for the BOEING 747. The pandemic is even killIing the JUMBO'S.

  • @Deamon93IT
    @Deamon93IT 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Considering how expensive they are and how rigid they are operationally it was a good call. For better or worse the world has moved to much more flexible airliners like the B787, A350 and the like. Heck even the B777X is finding it difficult, even though it is a good upgrade from the original 777-200s and 777-300s

  • @davidunderhill2106
    @davidunderhill2106 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Right decision to cancel!

  • @daviedmond4639
    @daviedmond4639 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    All who passed on this remarkable aircraft made the simple and smart choice. Just flying as a passenger on it never felt like the way of the future just a spectacle really but a cool one.

  • @paula200
    @paula200 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dumb question, given than other carriers are not operating their 380s. BA, for example, has their entire 380 fleet parked up at chateureux, France. And theyve been there a LONG time.

    • @SimpleFlyingNews
      @SimpleFlyingNews  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      BA's fleet is no longer in Chateauroux. It's now being stored across Madrid, Teruel, and Doha. - TB

  • @Mike5890Aviation
    @Mike5890Aviation 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They canceled the A380 because it was too THICC to fit in an airport.

  • @piotrchwalek6925
    @piotrchwalek6925 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Huge jumbos like this one will be needed in the future again as we all know how busy airports were during good times.

    • @dynasty0019
      @dynasty0019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No, the A380 was already on its way out before the pandemic. Passengers and airlines prefer direct long distance flights, not hubs.

    • @piotrchwalek6925
      @piotrchwalek6925 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dynasty0019 its nothing to do with hubs..but with costs of a slots. That’s why they create 777x and other huge planes.

    • @dynasty0019
      @dynasty0019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@piotrchwalek6925 The A380 was always going to be a hub and spoke model aircraft. When airlines found out passengers prefer direct flights, they found ways around slot restrictions by flying to secondary cities with smaller widebodies. There's a reason only the smaller 777X models are selling and the -10X is not even launched yet. No demand for VLA.

    • @piotrchwalek6925
      @piotrchwalek6925 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dynasty0019 Times are changing and no one will throw away fully working plane to buy new one for hundreds of millions. Still there are people that can’t imagine being 20 hours in one plane and prefer two shorter flights.
      We are flying to Miami this summer and have no choice but to fly through London or other city. Would love fly with A380 instead of 777 but have no choice. But Thailand next year A380 and 777.

    • @dynasty0019
      @dynasty0019 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@piotrchwalek6925 Yes times are changing, it's changing to make planes like the A380 obsolete. There are A380's barely 10 years old getting scrapped right now, and the value of a secondhand is zero.

  • @aviation0024
    @aviation0024 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    That’s interesting

  • @joezanella8949
    @joezanella8949 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    They could pick up a few quite cheaply right now if they changed their mind.

  • @bernehalligan
    @bernehalligan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    NO they should of at least gone for 2 380,s

  • @sho1715
    @sho1715 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    VS even considered A380-900

  • @swapnilmamgain6578
    @swapnilmamgain6578 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok

  • @ant2312
    @ant2312 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    a good reason for them to deserve to go bankrupt

  • @HiSteOfMnd
    @HiSteOfMnd 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    They low key knew the a380 was a bust 🤷🏽‍♂️ lol

  • @richarddastardly6845
    @richarddastardly6845 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wise move, a380 is a flying elephant

  • @vikashpatel155
    @vikashpatel155 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fake friends be like

  • @bearabletable7527
    @bearabletable7527 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Virgin's livery look nice on an A380

  • @jamesau4296
    @jamesau4296 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It would oversize Virgin Atlantic and bring it to the fate of Asiana Airlines.

  • @layangbly4386
    @layangbly4386 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    No sir, big mistake to replace the A380.

  • @rk8251
    @rk8251 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    oooh yh 747 lets goooo

  • @andreass1060
    @andreass1060 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think there to small to operate aircraft this big yes.

  • @letsseeif
    @letsseeif 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Did they make the right decision? Almost certainly. ps. If all airline decisions, historically, been left to 'bean counters', we'd never get anywhere, like rats on a treadmill.

  • @mann2520
    @mann2520 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Sad Virgin is on the brink of bankruptcy

  • @Stijn081
    @Stijn081 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    In 2021 the real question is "Why DIDN'T airline X cancel its A380 order?" Don't get me wrong, I love the plane. But unfortunately it makes no economic sense anymore :(

  • @michaelwallen6093
    @michaelwallen6093 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why? Covid19?!

    • @oliverroycroft1082
      @oliverroycroft1082 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The airline canceled the order before the virus happened.

    • @alexandernorman5337
      @alexandernorman5337 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Pretty much everyone was having profitability problems with the A380 before the COVID outbreak. And the small number of airlines interested in giant aircraft made producing an improved, more economical variant unfeasible from a market standpoint.

    • @floriskuipers4925
      @floriskuipers4925 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a massive aircraft with massive fuel consumption and personell+equipment needs, it only makes sense if you are sure that you can reliably fill it or need a lot of passengers per flight due to limited slot availability at your destination airports.

  • @piercequintin209
    @piercequintin209 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm Alone 😍😥

  • @доктор-вонючая-морковь
    @доктор-вонючая-морковь 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who cares

    • @gabrielb9010
      @gabrielb9010 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Then why are you commenting

  • @DaleSteel
    @DaleSteel 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    THEY CANT AFFORD THEM FACT

  • @theshadowman1398
    @theshadowman1398 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Untrustworthy airline

  • @vaskarmitra6411
    @vaskarmitra6411 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ofcourse.......... A380 is like a cow....its just that its too big but is a cow which is very difficult to run

  • @runwayincursion3376
    @runwayincursion3376 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    First!

  • @rossnolan2883
    @rossnolan2883 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Piss take 😂