Gojo vs Sukuna WITHOUT Mahoraga…
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- Gojo vs Sukuna was A Hard Fight but Sukuna of course ultimately won, but what if Sukuna never had mahoraga? What would happen? Let's find out! Subscribe! :)
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One more thing:
Right before the 5th domain expansion, Sukuna wouldn’t be as damaged as he was in the original because he’s fighting with 100% of his power, therefore he wouldn’t be late to the domain clash anyways…
@@yaboiplank6764cope lil bro gojo aint coming back😹🙏🏿
@@IMRTLDAN "mahoraga help me" and im a yuta glazer
@@kiny4622" nah, i'd win" Go/jo
ong your a yapper the fight would of gone the same till gojo landed his domain and no dif the fraud without maho. fraudkuna was giving it his all as shown by him saying another hallow purple will probably kill him and the fact his weak ah had to beg for help as gege stated weak curses tend to fight together
He could probably replenish some of his cursed energy and damage by transforming to his heien form as well.
Four arms and two mouths, shits really broken for a jujutsu sorcerer to have
Those two mouths aint useful jus for sorcery
@@softwetbread248 ayoooo 😳
@@softwetbread248 "Come to my room and let see what them two mouths can do instead of one." - Makima
remember the panel where gojo is about to use red on sukuna in their first domain clash? he had his legs wrapped around sukuna's stomach so imagine that but with true form where his 2nd mouth is on his stomach
@@dagsertr I imagined it. Dude's about to swallow that red pill with no protection at all
Go/jo vs fruadkuna
One of the best fights in manga history
Only ruined by an off screen death. 😪 hopefully when it’s animated they atleast give us more scenes and what lead up to that ending before gojo death
Its a 2v1
@@graveltheblock55783v1*
@@graveltheblock5578shush
@@Rowens556not gonna happen ngl
“Claimed he would violate Gojo in Yuji’s body” is an INSANE sentence gang.
Y’all think I’m talking bout scaling is CRAZY
Absolute facts but if gojo did not have infinity I'm sure he could do it in yuji body as yuji physical stats would prob give a lil boost when they going hand to hand
@@awakening3940 gojo still physically stronger
@@awakening3940Literally no...
gojo still loses. ep1 gojo doesn't know how to change conditions of his domain
Not than yuji bro. With sukunas power? @@orfaal.4
Sukuna really went into side quest collecting loot just to survive gojo 💀
Half jo
@@southyonko6455 go/jo
@@southyonko6455 Go is gone but Jo still standin
Not only side quest, but bro needed a binding vow on top of someone else's ct to win 💀And let's not forget the 1v3
If sukuna went on side quests gojo had to go on daily quests inside that prison realm. 💀💀💀
"You were born in an era without me and held as the strongest and yet you turned out to be..painfully ordinary" 🥶🥶
« The only reason you were the strongest Sukuna is because I wasn’t born yet »
@@Adam-gh5lu that turned out to be a lie lmao
How strong were hein era mfs tho, cause if gojo is ordinary than the hein era farmers must be like planetary level, but like kishimo was strong but not like stringer than gojo? And he was deemed as one of the strongest of the hein era, and he got beat by hakari so i’m really confused how weird sukuna’s statement are, also this is really weird for him to say cause he even admitted that he wont ever forget gojo and that he was one of the strongest hes fought
first of all kashimo was beat by Hakari cuz he literally did not even use his curse technique, and 2nd of all kashimo isn't even from the heian era. Heian era sorcerers were stronger in average but modern generation has more quality like gojo, yuta, yuji, Hakari etc
The only truly insanely strong old gen sorcerers we see are just sukuna and Kenjaku and MAYBE yorozu and uraume, others dont seem nearly as strong as the strongest of modern era, but the average of current is trash compared to average of heian era@@Thetravelingmonke
@@Thetravelingmonkekashimo was not from the hein era the hein era was 1000 yrs ago he was from gyat era where sorcerers didn't have the strongest domain expansion like mahito sukuna's yuta gojo etc.Any domain user > Kashimo ( if the domain is strong enough tho) kashimo was the strongest because he never fought the strongest in his era more likely they were way too weak but yeah kashimo got the most broken ability sadly bro cant use Domain expansion+rct ( including these things too and u can see him ragdolling yuta and all the strong sorcerer beside gojo and sukuna)
Both sukuna and gojo were trolling each other with their words bro like sukuna said lets peel off those scales or gojo saying u look like a lost child they were trolling each other
We literally see Mahoraga adapting by spinning the wheel after the third clash, there is no reason to assume Sukuna took the 0.01s hit on purpose while Mahoraga was already adapting
The more time mahoraga is inside the shadow the less chances gojo has to kill it before it learns to bypass infinity
Not on purpose for sure but it was def bcz it was his weaker vessel. His power , offense, defence all together would've been better if it was his original form so he wouldn't have taken the hit
He literally did not take the hit on purpose. That would be the dumbest move to make. Look at how burnt out he was after getting hit by that. The effects are still hurting him over 20 chapters later
@@skeditz69 His original form would've gotten hit as well. All it does is allow him to multi task, it doesn't make him faster.
@@thelegacyofgaming2928 i never said he would be faster. No confirmation on that. Let me clear what I was saying
Why do you think UV landed? It was bcz sukuna had to heal his ct with RCT. Now since gojo is more used to RCT to heal his ct, gojo healed a little faster and thus his domain expanded first. This was explained by gojo himself when his UV lands.
Why did sukuna have to heal his ct? Bcz his domain broke in the 4th clash since gojo managed to damage him enough in 3 mins while sukuna took 3 mins to break Gojo domain. Thus their domains broke simultaneously.
Now what would have happened if og sukuna was there against gojo. It's all in the 3rd and 4th domain clash. Og sukuna is definitely physically stronger and better at defence than Meguna. Therefore gojo would not be able to damaged him enough in those 3 mins and he would take more time. However since sukuna's domain output will be same, he would take 3 mins to break gojo's domain. Therefore gojo's domain would break first and sukuna's domain will not break in the 4th clash. If malovalent shrine doesn't break in the 4th clash then sukuna would never need to heal his ct using RCT and hence he wouldn't be late in the 5th clash like he was originally. Thus there would be no scenario in which UV lands. So it's not at all about who is faster or anything. It''s all about the 3rd and 4th domain expansion being in sukuna's favour if he is in original body. That's what I was trying to say.
One thing I think you missed is that Sukuna couldn’t use domain amplification while adapting. With amp on the whole time, I don’t think Gojo can damage him enough to break shrine simultaneously or fast enough
When did they say Sukuna can use domain amplification and his domain ? The downside of DA is that you can’t use your CT
@@khalilwilson2586yeah, and while domain fighting Gojo he used 10 shadows. Meaning he if he wanted to have 10 shadows activ he couldn't use Domain amplification
nah i didn’t say it but it was on the screen
@@khalilwilson2586he did.
@@khalilwilson2586it's completely a lie made by the Average and regular to feel better about themselves
I honestly think that with the whole 4 arms 2 mouths thing, Sukuna might have an edge in getting his domain off slightly before Gojo which potentially could mean the fight ends slightly sooner than where it’s left off
Thats an assumption
His 4 armed form isn't faster, it's just 2 extra arms and a mouth. He can multitask, but he isn't faster
@@ringo1836well with 4 arms 2 of them could be fighting Gojo while the other 2 cast domain, that’s just one huge improvement his Heian form provides
@@ethantg1373
1. Nobody casts domain and does anything else simultaneously, likely because of how much CE is needed and they need to focus on it's refinement.
2. Gojo would have infinity up, so fight Gojo how ? Is he gonna use amplification, while engaging engaging Gojo in h2h combat and casting a domain at the same time ? In all that, something's going to suffer and it'll likely be his domain refinement.
People really downplay H-ERA FORM as not only has it been in clutch lately it also literally praised being the perfect body for a sorcerer
Damn this comment section turned into a legitimate warzone
Gojo & Sukuna Fanbase is on DIFFERENT LEVEL 🗣️
I remember getting into such arguments about eren being right or wrong 😂 . Its the same level shit again
Im a gojo fan but sukuna fans are slowly converting me lol
@@CalebtheidiotNOT ME CUZ NAH, I'D FU**ING WIN
Ngl I don't think this compares to the Godzilla vs Kong community in 2021. That was a real warzone to be in.
If Sukuna doesn't take the riskier route with the adaptation process, there is no universe where Gojo can win a single domain clash.
Gojo only won, one domain battle thanks to 0,01s. So yeah if Sukuna goes all out in each domain battle and he would have never be late by 0,01s.
better yet he wouldnt even need to use more than 1 domain expansion because his would never break and he would never get damaged to that point
so he can easily crack gojos domain 5 times in a row by casting his domain only once
Can you elaborate on Sukuna going all out ?
@@ringo1836during the 3 min domain gojo had to damage sukuna to the point where he can't hold his shrine. when that happened , it took the ENTIRE 3 mins while gojo going all out to damage sukuna who was handicapping himself by adapting to 10s.
it still took gojo the ENTIRE 3 mins to damage meguna which is his weakest form, and this happened in BOTH the 3 min domains. so it is consistent
@@MoMo-vt2ij
1. Meguna isn't weak than 4 armed form and is much better equipped to combat Gojo's abilities.
2. We don't even know what happened in the super tiny domain. All we know is it lasted 3 minutes and they both collapsed the other's domain simultaneously. You're just assuming Sukuna could've done more and ydek the details of what happened inside the domain
@@ringo1836 meguna is weaker than 4 arm sukuna. meguna is not better equipped to fight gojo, the domain expansion is and whoever is more capable of fighting gojo within the 3 min domain is the better equipped to fight gojo.
we do know what happened. gojo went all out to damage sukuna and took the entire 3 mins. thats why both domains broke simultaneously. it takes 3 mins for shrine to break gojos domain, if gojo damaged sukuna and broke his domain at the same time it took shrine to break gojos barrier then what does that mean?
it means that it took 3 mins for gojo to go all out to damage meguna while meguna was at time's turning off DA to adapt. this is a handicapped sukuna, now with 4 arm sukuna he can block and land hits simultaneously. he just needs to last ONE extra second, and hein era scales him higher. its not even close
“Be respectful man, this is agenda kaisen” is an oxymoron. We all know agenda kaisen has never been respectful 😭
The issue with these discussions is that they don't honestly look at what Sukuna is doing. The entire point was to develop an anti-infinity technique. It's why he practiced with Yorozu and why he made every move he did against Gojo.
If Sukuna feels he can't get an anti-infinity tech out of the deal, that means he's just working on frying Gojo's brain and finishing him with Domain Expansion.
While we'd like to talk about the fifth clash, the reality is that we don't get past the fourth since Sukuna would just change the conditions back to being stronger on the inside vs the outside and that's if we don't factor any of Sukuna's other techniques
If Gojo hits Sukuna once with IV it's over and Sukuna knows that. He also knows MS is his only win con so he realistically just treats Gojo like Mahoraga and overwhelms him with slashes and fire arrows
Gojo's not like Mahoraga though. He's not dumb and wouldn't stand still to get hit by the fire arrow
@@dominocut2963 Mahoraga wasn't dumb at all, he was literally getting slashed and burned right before getting hit with the Fire arrow. Safe to assume Sukuna would attempt the same with my king Gojo
@@artemisfowl1862 Mahoraga IS dumb though. The only reason he was even surviving that much was because of his adaptation and the fact that Sukuna was interested. At the end of the day, it's an untamed shikigami. No strategy to be found from it.
Gojo on the other hand is definitely smart, and probably will find a way out of that situation (most likely through moving around to avoid the attack, which he'd be capable of doing considering the slashes don't affect him like they did Mahoraga, not to mention the fact that Sukuna has to stop moving & aim to use the fire arrow in the first place)
@@dominocut2963 yeah hes gonna dodge a nuke like fire arrow
Im also suprised no one ever mentiones that fact, that Sukuna chose to not hit the barrier on the inside instead to destroy Gojos barrier and force Gojo to use up all his domain expansions....
Now make a video of what if gojo had the 10 shadows and limitless
That's simply impossible + if he switched bodies he'd lose 6 eyes which isn't worth the trade off.
@@yuvraj..6741 man we know its impossible dude's just asking for a hypothetical scenario
@@oogabooga943 even hypothetically gojo can't use 2 ct's at the same time you know. He's definitely way stronger on paper and wins low-mid diff but in reality as it's hard to conjure up a simulation with those 2 ct's working together
@@yuvraj..6741 with the power of the six eyes I would say he has a higher chance of being able to use 2 ct's
@@yuvraj..6741 I mean still its interesting to imagine how 10S will work with six eyes
Everyone magically forgets when Gojo chose not to kill Sukuna because he wanted to save Megumi. (He had a chance to kill him after his domain hit)
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I don’t think you read the manga, did you? Because gojo was WILLINGLY OPEN TO KILL MEGUMI if it meant killing sukuna. Just admit sukuna is simply stronger lol
Bro didn't read the manga
@@robinhodea6997 hearing megumi took the burden of raga's adaptations instead of sukuna definitely weakened gojo's psyche
@@AngeryCL proof? Besides, gojo himself said that he doesn't care about megumi because he looks like someone he killed before (referring to toji)
Remove Mahoraga, and all the info Sukuna gathered on Gojo while inhabiting yuji and this fraud gets bodied. Gojo had to literally fight around adaptation the entire time and still damn near took the w. Gojo remains the honored one.
Sukuna also had to cheapshot with worldwide dismantle the draud couldnt even just chop a leg from Gojo and let him RCT and continue the fight into R3 he had to wrap it up like a Cowardly fraud because he knew Gojo would´ve 100% reach the DE cooldown timer, faster than him, and without mahoraga he would´ve been cooked in that scenario so yeah Gojo could´ve won that fight had he survived the first worldwide dismantle.
Thank you!!! 💯💯💯 If you have both of them going in blind, Gojo definitely can come out on top. His C.T. overall is better than Sukuna's regardless of if he can see it or not.
Exactly
🤣🤣💀
All I will say is stay disillusion
@@nirbanjyotidas5828 Gege killed Gojo offscreen, Sukuna had many more advantages and that's a fact
when you say he he shoulders unlimited void im pretty sure hes having megumi take all of the unlimited void so he isnt getting staggered so the situation in which gojo wins by crushing his organs still occurs
malevolent shrine's effect and unlimited void's effect cancelled each other in everywhere except for sukuna's body( aka megumi)
Sukuna intentionally turned off the MS effect upon megumi in order to make megumi take over the unlimited void in order to adapt.
But , sukuna's soul remained unharmed not because he passed the effect to megumi's soul but because sukuna's soul itself was under the effect of malevolent shrine
@@chocolategranola6796 Yhh so he would still get staggered and gojo would crush his organs
@@somewhatstrange1600 he wouldnt get staggered. Sukuna doesnt need Megumis body to block UV. He can simply maintain DA and let MS sure-hit target everything, thus (mutually) cancelling the sure-hit of UV in that overlapping area
@@chocolategranola6796 uv will still hit da doesn't completely negate dame
@@loosenup8152 UV won't hit unless it's activated first before shrine, as shown in the manga
- Weird hidden box fuga technique
- Heian form that gives him a refresh
- Domain amplification
"without mahoraga sukuna gets clapped 🤓🤓"
Fuga ain't doing shit 🤣
More like fraudga
wtf would fuga do to Inifinity? If it could do absolutely anything he would have used it off rip. Refresh wouldn't save him from the unlimited void hit at the beginning and DA didn't save him in the fight to begin with.
@@judgemasterneimaz8260 why get damaged when he was confident on his mahoraga strat?
@@judgemasterneimaz8260Gojos infinity was turned off during the domain clashes because of ct burnout lmao
@@judgemasterneimaz8260 you do realize he could have done that while gojo was under sukunas surehit in chapter 226
gojos infinity was disabled
but sukuna didnt pull out any of his other tricks, he just fought gojo using basic reinforcement, suggesting he was bearing the burden of adaptation since the start of the domain clashes
sukuna could have pulled out the fire arrow then and there, but his priority was adaptation
Theory: Sukuna can probably grab a cursed tool like the one toji used and use domain amplification to bypass infinity. In fact, with 4 arms and domain amplification, theres nothing to say a normal blade wudnt do the trick
where tf would he find a cursed tool? Out of his ass? 💀
Also stop the meat riding lil bro u need a license for that
The cursed tool isn't going to go through infinity and the ones capable of that have been destroyed
This is the only way I see sukuna beating Gojos without mahoraga
@@KiyoKami_ w domain amplification it certainly will. Toji did it w inverted spear of heaven WITHOUT domain amplification. So cite ur sources lol
Yeah, the trident or vajra will be a problem even outside DE as sukuna did Nullify infinity with DA and the slashes from MS landed despite the sure hits being cancelled
Also the deer's rct disrupts the ce flow of its opponents ct so sukuna could've partially used the deer to heal himself and disrupt infinity (*although plot made sukuna totally forget this just like gojo forgot to teleport after regaining his ct)
The main reason Sukuna would more than likley still win is because throughout the whole fight Sukuna made his domain strong on the outside and weaker on the inside to combat Gojo reversing domain conditions. I think it implied that Sukuna was surviving UV by using Amplification and touching Gojo, just so he could contend with Gojo inside when he's weaker inside.
The small domain only helped Gojo because Sukuna was focused on the outside rather than the inside, which we saw theyre both equal on the inside, but domain amplification makes it even more stronger, as Gojo said, the output of power of Sukuna's domain ramps up when he uses DA.
Bottom line is that if Sukuna decided to break the domain from the inside rather than the outside, then he more than likely wins due to all the advantages he'd have in his domain. Although Sukuna in Megumi's weak ass body wasn't suited for hand-to-hand, he still more than held his own against Gojo, and hand to hand in manga isn't that consistent so its hard to rely on that for arguments anyway.
Magumi had all of sukunas fingers plus he ate his old body so he was infact just as strong as prime sukuna.
The only real argument is sukuna might have done better with the extra arm and mouth but considering the fact we haven't seen such a one sided fight like this since toji vs dagon it's unlikely he would have done anything.
Plus ppl tend to forget that sukuna lost the fight around 5 times before maho had to interfere so there's no argument for sukuna standing a chance, plus ppl tend to forget that it does doesn't matter if sukuna wins a domain clash, the dud won 3 yet couldn't finish gojo, not to mention he got bodied and kicked out of his own domain 💀.
Eatger way gojo>>>>>>>>>>fraudkuna the king of frauds
@@Ceoofedging it seems like you didn’t read anything I wrote lmaoo. As I said before, Sukuna weakened his domain to make it stronger on the outside. Without this step, he doesn’t get damaged by UV, uses DA to amp the domain’s power output, and takes down Gojo’s domain gradually and wins. He turned off the amp he gets from his domain so that he can adapt to infinity but in the process he got hit by UV, which wont happen this time as there’s no Mahoraga, so he’ll just brute force and break the domain from inside as he should’ve.
The only way Gojo can negate this is through hand to hand combat, which as I said, is never a concrete way to powerscale and decide who’s stronger in manga.
@@JK_073 both fighters actively changed there domain conditions to try to outsmart the opponent or increase specific chances, weather it's megumis body or hein era sukuna he would have done the same thing regardless.
There's nothing saying his domain in megumis body is different in some way so i don't get why he yapping about.
Also hand to hand combat is actually a pretty good indication of strength as it tests fighting abilities as well as coordinating speed and physical strength.
Considering how sukuna got absol dog walked in every single hand to hand combat scene i get why u think it doesn't matter lmao
@@Ceoofedging Sukuna may have gotten dogged in hand to hand but tbh i really think that depends on the body he is in because it has never been stated that his physical strength is determine by how many fingers he eats. What im trying to say is that how many fingers he eats doesent change the physique of the body he is in. Also Sukuna lived his life with 4 arms not 2 so that may have given him a disadvantage but thats kind of bias so i cant really use that. Also in Yujis body he would get a physical boost because Yuji physically is one of the strongest in jjk
@@Moon-uc4vu against maki he said he still has his physical prowes so no he's just as strong
Crazy how gojo fans straight up refuse to acknowledge gojo's statement in heaven.
In Sukuna's original form, his body is unparalleled. It is the epitome of physical perfection, embodying the true essence of jujutsu. During his last clash in the domain, Sukuna had to resort to using Mahoraga due to the injuries inflicted by Gojo in their fourth domain confrontation. These injuries forced Sukuna to focus on healing his face, causing a slight delay in opening his domain, which allowed Gojo's Unlimited Void to harm him. However, if Sukuna had been in his prime form, Gojo would have had no way to cause significant damage. Even if Gojo could damage him, it wouldn't have been substantial enough to prevent Sukuna from maintaining his domain in the 4th domain battle. This means that in all of their domain clashes, Sukuna's domain would not have been broken even once, while Gojo's domain would have broken every time. After five times, Gojo would be unable to open his domain, allowing Sukuna to open his and win the match.
Furthermore, in the original fight, Sukuna intentionally allowed some hits to land on him. This strategy was to enhance and expedite his adaptation process. Sukuna placed himself in challenging situations deliberately, not only for the thrill but also to accelerate his adaptation. In his prime form, he could fight with four arms while chanting with one mouth, simultaneously increasing his output. Due to these factors, there's a significantly high chance for Sukuna to win even in his original form. While it's not impossible for Gojo to win in this situation, the likelihood is indeed very low.
It would be far worst for gojo:
1. Sukuna only took the riskier option of turning off his surehit inside and attack the outside as this is the only option that allow him to destroy Uv without cancelling 10s inside Uv.
2. If sukuna wasn't adapting 10s = MS surehit not off inside = able to break UV weaken inside barrier with chanted cleave(same amp as DE) or other cts & damage gojo with cts once uv breaks inside Ms range.(true form)
3. Sukuna clearly explains this in 230 of not being able to use other ct than surehit cuz of 10s and had to turn off DA so wheel can adapt= surehit on inside UV until he was ready to break UV(taking more damage).
4. Thus sukuna getting hit Uv wouldn't happen and gojo dies to MS( for gojo fans). Using other cts in DE =cancel out 10s, also why he made DA pause 10s.
Bro stop making sense, gayjo fans are in shambles already
UV would nullify the MS by cancelling the sure hit. Although sukuna can use a giant dismantle net or fire arrow or 10s to break the domain from the inside which he didn't because of the adaptation in the background
That's too much speculation because gojo also didn't use his teleportation to get out of sukuna's open domain
@@parmar__12 yeah his ct was burned out because of which he couldn't teleport (*this point was brought up in the manga too)
And later when he gained his ct he decided to attack sukuna instead of teleporting, healing and then using attacking with purple from outside or something. I think gojo went all out with the UV because he knew once UV lands it's gg's and that he'd win but it can be written off as plot Armor for sukuna too tbh
@@yuvraj..6741 he could have teleported In first de
Biggest handicap was gojo not knowing about open domain of sukuna
If somebody has told him that he wouldn't have lost 2 domain fights
Depends on who spams their de before the other, both can kill each other in their domains but Sukuna has one advantage, he knows touching Gojo in infinite void nullifies it.
But according to how the fight in manga fight went, Sukuna wouldve won if he wanted to.
People also forget he was in a weakened state. Gojo never even got to see the REAL sukuna.
@@sky-oq5mrweakened state ? You think 19F Sukuna with 10 shadows is a weak state ? Sukuna himself said his 10 shadows form is the best for killing sorcerers.
I'd like everyone to remember that Sukuna knew everything about Gojo and prepared specifically to fight him, while Gojo essentially went in blind, got jumped, and still almost won.
sukuna won low diff g@@mushroomarmy8802
@@mushroomarmy8802 Gojo is aware of ten shadows, and should know about cleave and dismantle (not that it would do anything, since infinity exists). Only thing left is domain expansion. Sukuna's domain is stronger. Thats pretty much it. Gojo knows enough and has the hax to withstand most of Sukuna's, so I don't see the issue. Sukuna was also SPECIFICALLY limiting himself a bit just for the sake of creating an opportunity to get past Infinity. Sukuna let him get as far as he did, but if it was serious, Gojo would have lost the domain clashes against a more powerful Sukuna.
To clarify this is sukuna with full control of his body movement,full power,no ten shadows,knows about ten shadows,knows domain amplification and knows about gojo's ability
And gojo also knows about sukuna's ability including open barrier
First let's address this one argument gojo survives MS so therefore MS is useless Gojo can't keep healing forever first of all his CT reserve isn't literally infinite,but even if it is,it was stated that the more damage they take the lower the CT reinforcement and rct output are (reserve ≠ output) plus sukuna needed SD and FBE
So no MS is not useless,
Also gojo owning sukuna in hand to hand
Gojo is better in h2h because of blue amplifying his punches, We know that da can reduce the effectiveness of CT like blue,meaning that using da reduces a lot of gojo's advantages
We see that whenever sukuna use da he and gojo is quite relative in hand 2 hand,
We know that sukuna isn't using da in a lot of the clashes aside from the second and maybe first,since we have the narrator saying that sukuna was making the wheel adapt to UV multiple times (meaning it's not just the last uv that gets adapted to) meaning that in multiple instance of the domain clash sukuna can't use domain amplification,this is why he gets owned in a lot of domain clash,since he is fighting gojo without a ct while gojo uses ct to increase his attack power
Keep in mind I said relative not equal meguna is probably still inferior to gojo in hand 2 hand,but the gap isn't too big
And then there is the argument sukuna needed mahoraga to break out of UV
The only reason gojo was able to catch sukuna in UV is because he manage to damage him enough that he dropped his domain within the 3 minute,and he delayed his domain activation by a small time,
The reason why gojo was able to damage sukuna so much is because he uses blue,sukuna stopped using DA to reduce blue effectiveness because he is using the when to adapt,
If he consistently uses DA then there is a chance he may survive the domain clash and doesn't get caught in UV
You may be asking If sukuna can survive the domain clash by just using da why did he need to let himself get beaten up for the wheel adaptation?
Well you see I never said it was confirm or guaranteed that sukuna would win or survive the 3 minute clash,I said may,
Basically it's close there is a chance gojo did damage him and catch him in UV there is a chance sukuna survive
Meanwhile mahoraga adapting gives sukuna confirmed chance of surviving UV
So it's between a 50/50 chance of sukuna surviving UV by not getting caught in it,by surving in h2h combat with gojo long enough
Or letting himself get beat up for 100 confirm chance if surviving of UV even if he get caught
Some more argument saying gojo is better fighter than sukuna,
Gojo hit blitz sukuna and hit him with red,
Sukuna literally was forming a thought in his head when gojo grabbed him, That amount of time he formed them is enough to do many stuff like activate da to reduce red's damage,we know he isn't using da at that time because in second clash gojo was surprised sukuna can use de and da at the same time,which he wouldn't if sukuna uses DA at the moment he grabbed him, Grabbed gojo's hand and point his hand somewhere else, Or many other stuff instead of just letting gojo shoot him like a fool, Also sukuna literally was able to grab into and get behind gojo in second. Domain clash to survive UV hit
Gojo manages to handle a 3 v 1 against sukuna maho and agito,
Yes gojo WHO just got black flash amp And it's not really 3 v1 because if you read it properly you'll see that they are attacking one by one
People said that if sukuna was holding back because of adaptation then gojo was also holding back because of adaptation he mostly uses blue to prevent more adaptation,without the worry of adaptation gojo can do more stuff then just spam blue
And they said said if sukuna fought differently than gojo would also fought different
So how I think the battle would go is,
Sukuna would maintain his DA and domain expansion all the time,so gojo blue enhance punches amaffectuveness is reduced,red would also be reduced,
Sukuna may also be able to enhance DA with chant or hand signs
Sone people said that chants and signs can only amp ct but first of all sign and chant doesn't really buff CT they just bring the CT to their full potency,in other words chants and signs are an original part of the CT
We also see that general CT like veil hand signs is needed/exist for them,
So to say that hand signs dint exist for da just because da is not a CT that specialise for the user is illogical,
So there is a strong likelihood that DA can be amped with chants
And yes gojo can chant too But sukuna has two mouth so he can create a binding vow where he makes double chant,
And before you say sukuna needing bending viw while gojo can't prove gojo is stronger, This would be true if it wasn't a binding vow only sukuna is capable of doing therefore it's still his unique ability
So sukuna with DA that is amped with double chants and 4 arms
However one thing people said gojo could do is run or teleport out of sukuna,'s domain
But that is a bad idea,
If gojo choose to get out of ms and just shoot stuff to sukuna,sukuna could easily dodge them,
Sukuna sees hollow purple almost hitting him because the veil prevent him of realising them purple until it's close to him and still reacted,
Hollow purple is portrayed as faster than red and blue because toji easily react to blue,able to react to red,but got blitzed by purple
There is a 200 radius around the center of ms to the outside gojo shooting projectile from the edge of the ms would be something sukuna can see miles away,even hollow purple
How about gojo shooting red and blue together in the ms and combing then together to create purple explosion?
Red could be destroyed before it collided with blue,by the smashing from ms and sukuna doesn't even need to aim because ms slashes is present within the range of ms
The purple explosion is also weaker the further you're from the source Also sukuna who is states to have his reinforcement dropped who isn't using da literally survive getting hit by them with just a missing arm and destroyed face
Imagine his much lesser the purple explosion would damage do to sukuna with full reinforcement and amp DA (granted it's purple at far range)
Also sukuna would definetely not stay in place and keep dashing around ms to get into safe radius from explosion,
And since it's possible sukuna can destroy red with ms slashes,gojo wouldn't send the red and blue inside the ms,so sukuna is always far away from the center of explosions
The only way to. Make Purple useful is in regular firm Purple in ball form seems To be able to fully disintegrate the things it touched unlike explosion where only those close to the middle gets disintegrate
The best bet for gojo is to summon purple teleport in shoot sukuna and teleport out
Repeat and repeat,
But doing this would expose gojo to ms hit,
And sukuna can dodge gojo purple hit
Not to mention flame arrow which gojo would be vulnerable to since he Is in a domain
the yap is INSANE 💀
i’m not reading all that lil bro
IS THAT KENJAKU SIR ?
Fact bro🗣️.... Don't listen to this gojo fan they are as disillusion as ever😆
sukuna is not relevant in h2h, gojo getting 3v1 got hit one time that entire fight, and we know flame arrow takes time to use as shown in the mahoraga fight and jogo fight where he has had to do hand signs you really think gojo wouldnt beat his ass while he was doing fire arrow? not to mention where the hell did you get the idea that DA weakened blue to the extent where sukuna barely took dmg, he appeared with a hole in his chest domain broke his face was broken domain broke it seems any amount of significant damage breaks the domain therefore no blue will still be effective even when he uses DA
Sukuna uses domain expansion, breaks Gojo’s domain and starts spamming cleaves and fire arrows alongside his sure hit. Mid diff at best
Keep suckin he's almost finished
(Gojo claps)
Cope, his rct is just to potent. If sakuna could’ve done it, he would’ve
Honestly it’s more like a low diff.
@@omnipayne861 Sukuna was holding back in order to Mahoraga to adapt and learn his spatial slash, he used Gojo as a stepping stone to get stronger
If Gojo was using RCT at its maximum just to survive the sure hit, he would’ve been finished by extra damage
@@guilha1506 buddy stop coping SUKUNA doesn't have that in him to do that and I think your forgetting that GOJO alr TANKED malevolent shrine Attacks
0:19 - Ultimately, Gojo's statement itself about 10 shadows is *inconclusive* - Some fan translations word it a bit differently. The official translation (who had a better translator with Lightning rather than John Werry typically) says Gojo is "not sure". Checked the raw Japanese itself and it's a statement about not being sure.
I'm saying this because one fan translation people use is Gojo saying he would have lost, but he doesn't say that in Japanese, so that translation is least accurate. It's about not being sure either way from the original Japanese. So only referring to this part specifically, not anything else baring on the actual outcome.
Gojo doesnt even know that sukuna can use reincarnation and go back to haen form,he doesnt know about his cursed weapons and whatever his black box is
Gojo knows about incarnation as he said why sukuna's wearing megumi's face but he got no clue about the black box or the cursed tool just like us
Copium
@@semperperfect7607 Nothing about copium with sharing the right translation from Japanese. Obviously, I am aware Gojo lost. People just throw the words "Cope" or "Copium" because they don't have anything better to respond. lol You probably didn't even read the comment fully to the end. I didn't necessarily say this changed the outcome of fight.
@@raec5426 wow. the cope is strong with u my friend
Last time I checked Sukuna TAMED Mahoraga and clearly deserved the use of the 10 Shadows
Now that I think about it sukuna buffed all the shikigami with his own CE💀 they were effectively his own shikigami since they're different in power and appearance to megumis
"Noooooooo but it's not his technique he's cheating!!!!! 🤓🤓🤓" Like what's the point of a cursed object fam 💀🙏
@@chromtastic2092Yup, 10 Shadows only became strong in Sukuna's hands, dunno what people mean by saying "Sukuna stole Megumi's technique" as if Megumi had ANY merit 💀
it’s a stolen ability, that’s all there is to it no loop hole to make that sound any better 😂
Finally ive been saying this since the fight began, he bodied maho and Made him his Bitch. Its his power as of now
1. You misread the 5th domain expansion landed because he was late to using rct because of extended damage intake and he knew that so he let himself get hit by the unlimited void to summon mahoraga bro was cooked
2. For others that misread when he mentions the exclusion he means that he was excluded from unlimited void because they were in a domain clash which gojo couldnt do because sukunas domain didnt have a sure hit to exclude himself from and the 5th one he couldnt exclude himself from was essentially him not being able to pop open his domain which is why it says that the reason he got caught was because he lagged behing by .1
3. Fire arrow would be useless as he cant land it and we dont know what other techniques he has if he lives to use them and so would the weapons and to the people who think an extra to arms and mouth are gonna help they might using enchaments but that doesnt erase rct nor help in the clash and the two sign thing he used to not get caught in a domain expansion has to be launched before he gets caught meaning he either stands there so gojo has time to destroy him or launches it to late
fire arrow is not useless. if gojo has a CT burnout he gets hit by it then even if gojo heals from it he has no time to heal his burnt CT.
@@MoMo-vt2ij 1. To slow and was showcased to be a charging attack
2. Sukuna isnt dumb enough to assume gojo is gonna stand there and wait for the hit so he wouldnt trade a shrine blitz to shoot fire at him that he could tank with cursed energy reinforcement
And you forgot that Sukuna was purposely making things difficult for himself so that Mahoraga can adapt. Without it, Sukuna beats Gojo in every Domain clash
What did he do to make things difficult all he did was nut mahoraga on megumi and then excluded him from domain protection so that megumi got hit by the 5 UV’s I don’t think that effected sakuna in any way during the domain clashes
@@gayfrogs6985 he purposely chose not to alter the conditions of his domain to make it easier for him to win. When Gojo shrunk his Domain to make the outside harder, Sukuna chose not to target the domain on the weaker inside and break it much quicker. Gojo would never have landed that last UV on Sukuna at all. In fact he most likely would've died after the next Domain clash as Sukuna would've just been able to wear him down when Gojo inevitably got caught in his Domain. On top of that without UV frying his brain, Sukuna could use his Domain after switching to his true form. This form is physically stronger than Gojo and would start beating him in the hand to hand too. Also once again without UV frying his brain he could use the black box and pull out the fire arrow and who knows what else. Sukuna nerfed himself for the sake of gaining something stronger later, rather than focusing on his win conditions
Honestly, Im pretty sure gege gave sukuna 10 shadows to nerf sukuna and give the remaining cast a chance against him.
how would that make sense whenever he’s not using 10 shadows against anyone other than Gojo?
@@designerboy1369 Because he's been nerfed. The job is done. His rct and domain expansion.
@@MonkeyDEneru you dont think Gojo was nerfed then? i mean why didn’t he teleport once & why was he so stupid?
@designerboy1369 The teleportion has conditions. It's not like he can teleport willy nilly.
I definitely agree that sukuna wins because you definitely knew this, of course, but since you didn't mention it, I'm just going to say it to the other people. Sukuna couldn't use domain amplification while he was adapting. So if he doesn't have to focus on adapting, he can use their magnification to take less damage and he took less damage. He wouldn't have had the problem of healing slowing down his domain and then he would have won
Less damage doesn't matter because he'd still get hit by infinite void, which is a GG without Mahoraga.
I feel like Gojo could still not based on any clear cut statements or showings but because this fight already showed us these guys can BEND THE RULES of the power system & pull off some insane feats is the audience would never expect.
Like none of us expected using DA & your DE, shrinking a DE barrier, or even healing a burned out CT until they did. So personal bias aside it’s not far fetched that this battle could’ve still gone either. Nobody’s victory was set in stone here
The 0,01 second wasn't a result of Sukuna's sure hit not protecting him, that was because Gojo was faster opening his domain. Gojo's sure hit activated first hence hitting Sukuna for 0,01 seconds before he could activate his own. That had nothing to do with his plan of taking the surehit away from himself because it makes no difference whether or not Sukuna's sure is protecting him, if Gojo is even a hint faster UV will land because it's just there before MS.
Exactly my point.
@@skeditz69 okay and what does any of this have to do with my comment? Where did I mention Gojo would be able to do this to True Form Sukuna or not be able to??
@@Akagami_no__ oh okay my bad homie, please ignore the reply :) 🙏🏻
@@Akagami_no__ It's funny, because the same would happen to heian form Sukuna. Gojo outplayed Sukuna and got his domain off first, same would happen no matter what form sukuna is in, because sukuna wouldn't all of a sudden have more IQ in a different form.
I like how he fails to mention how the entire fight, gojo had to hold back because he was worried about sukuna adapting to red or blue. If sukuna didn’t have mahoraga, right from the BEGINNING gojo would be spamming never ending reds and blues and it would be a constant onslaught on sukuna who can’t do much else other than take it or try to avoid it.
Gojo wasn't holding back red, blue or anything in the domain battle or before that gojo used red on sukuna after the first clash, he was using blue fist on sukuna. If gojo was concerned about the adaptation of mahoarga then he wouldn't have even done so. He didn't even knew about mahoragas wheel being placed on megumis soul. He wasn't even sure about the wheels function and had to get the confirmation from sukuna, he didn't even knew how mahoraga adapts and had to get the confirmation mid fight. It is entirely possible he didn't even knew that the wheel can be placed on others as sukuna was the first to even tame mahoarga.
Sukuna can kill gojo even without mahoraga for sure. Because his four arms give him an insane boost when using DA he can hit gojo without him being able to block the hit from two arms and in a domain battle sukuna with four arms is able to be the first one to activate the domain because of arms as they said the arms allow a huge difference in strength and the mouth would ensure that sukuna isn't wasting a second being tired
No way
@@sebas8225it's a fact that sukuna was in his weaker form. If he had transformed into his original body, he would've much stronger and could've ended the fight in the domains but his goal was to beat infinity and not just gojo that's why he remained in megumi's body. Its a fact and you just have to accept it. If you don't like it like me then just blame the writer instead of going off on these sukuna fans.
Gojo absoluetly DESTROYS any version of sukuna, and I can prove that with the recent chapters.
@@vihaan_17 recent chapters? Gojo is ded nig.
His arms literally give him no boost. It simply allows multi tasking, not speed increase 😂Gojo is still significantly faster than Sukuna, and his 2 extra arms are not going to magically outspeed Gojo whent rying to cast domain, because all 4 of his arms are moving at the same max speed. Nobody said the arms allow a huge difference in strength, Sukuna gets negged in hand 2 hand, because he simply isn't as strong as Gojo. Even in domain clash, Sukuna's domain is not strong enough to kill Gojo who has no infinity up. His DA is not strong enough, and he gets outsped. If his heian form had more legs, THEN he could be faster, but he still only has 2 legs, so he loses. Fire Arrow can't even touch Gojo to begin with, and Gojo can simply not cast his domain, and tank Sukuna's domain, while also destroying him within it like he did in the manga. Low diff victory.
I think you also forgot to touch upon the fact that Gojo also had to play around the fact that Mahoraga would adapt to his techniques and therefore not go all out, by using his abilities more sparingly, after gojo uses maximum purple, he would simply overwhelm the heavily injured sukuna, and also you are misinterpreting the “sukuna tanking unlimited void” part, sukuna was using megumi to tank UV by redirecting it to his soul, in fact the moment UV hit Sukuna for a mere 0.001 second, it utterly fried his brain
Honestly he could've used purple too there but sukuna can simply use his shadows to disperse in different directions and hide and reappear somewhere else
You're right about gojo limiting himself because of the adaptation but that only proves that he thought nothing in his arsenal (*post UV) was enough to one shot sukuna and he'd tank stuff and maho will adapt.
(*Besides sukuna held back from using DA which reduced his own durability to speed up the adaptation process of infinity and blue in R2, so gojo trashing sukuna around the city was within sukuna's calculations too)
The fightwill end before that, gojo was going all out until sukuna revealed the wheel and that was after UV landed on sukuna,
And we can be 100% confident that 4 arms is superior to 2 arms. So the time (3 min 11sec) wont be enough for gojo to damage sukuna for his domain to break.
Hypothetically if sukuna goes all out from the first domain clash, he can finish the fight in 2 domains.
Sukuna using DA continuously will also help him in domain clashes.
Gojo will eventually tire out and doe from the damage and reduced rct output
@@somerandomdude1605 Yes four arms are better than 2 when the 2 do not have blue infused in them but they do...
@@KeironRodriguez-jk2rz DA enter the chat.
Sukuna couldn't use DA most lf the fight cuz of the wheel.
Lmao stop lying, Sukuna didn't use Megumi to tank UV - Sukuna literally said he removed his sure hit from Megumi so that the adaptation would continue. By applying his sure hit to himself, UV would ever reach him but the adaptation would halt - this is why he removed the sure hit from only Megumi's soul.
Everyone is claiming that sukuna was a fraud because his fight with gojo was actually a 3 V 1 but nobody's realizing that sukuna's fight was actually against the entire verse
You see after sukuna got injured severally because of his holding back in order to utilize gojo's infinity and study it , he couldn't even have enough time to rest and already got jumped by the entire verse , sukuna's fight wasn't only with gojo , but with mei mei , yuta , todo , yuji , kashimo , kusakabe , miguel , maki , larue , higuruma , choso , and ino , which means sukuna fought 13 sorcerer without rest
Alright before anyone tells me that the 12 sorcerers - without gojo - aren't stronger than mahoraga and agito , let me tell you you are wrong
After gojo's death , sukuna fought kashimo in amber form which is his strongest , kashimo without this transformation was already the strongest sorcerer 400 years ago , then he fought higuruma and yuji , higuruma literally can kill mahoraga the second he enters his domain , because after the destruction that mahoraga caused in shibuya - alongside sukuna - , execution is the only judgment he would receive, granting higuruma his cursed sword that can literally kill anyone with one touch , how tf would mahoraga adapt to that , also yuji was awaking , he literally learned RCT , simple domain , blood manipulation , black flash control , and cleave , also we got yuta , come on this is not even debatable , he IS definitely stronger than agito and mahoraga , even with rika alongside him , maki and miguel are weaker than both mahoraga and agito but I don't think they would die easily
Technically sukuna fought everyone else without mahoraga and agito and without even using one of his shikigamis
he entered three different domains , fought two special grades and the strongest two first grades , received more than 11 black flash , temporarily lost his RCT and domain , and still managed to kill too many with megumi's soul draining his own cursed energy
People heavily downplay the impact Maho had in the fight, fighting a 2v1 against two opponents with a similar level to yours is much harder than a 1v1, it's impact not only comes down to the World Slash.
I think the first phase goes in a similar way, just quicker, Sukuna having to use the 2nd body way earlier, and then it's a race to see who can replenish their domain first, honestly I can see it going either way.
Nah maho was a non factor. Gojo could one shot him that's why sukuna had to babysit him till he adapted . Maho and agito wasn't to overwhelm but to split gojos focus and stall
Sukuna didn't summon mahoraga until he adapted to something so he didn't get 1 shot, as we saw him only spawn him in after he adapted to UV and after he adapted to infinity, sukuna himself wasn't really doing shit to fight back, if he uses domain amp to actually fight gojo, the adaptation ritual would pause and possibly even reset, so yeah, i don't really think mahoraga is being downplayed
@@Owen-sx4jjone shot Mahoraga ? No lol, without Hollow purple Gojo doesn't one shot Mahoraga. Mahoraga himself is a tank. The "non factor" was basically the reason Sukuna got the desired technique to bypass Gojo's infinity. No way you guys can downplay Mahoraga. It was because of him sukuma won.
@@protoniveand if the adaptation process resets if Sukuna fights 100%, then it's just a basic a CE and Taijutsu clash in which since Gojo has infinity and the six eyes with infinite cursed energy he simply would tank sukuna forever until Sukuna gets killed in a battle of attrition.
Sukuna is not capable of winning a battle of attrition against Gojo.
@@SoulblazewarriorOfCairnlands imma just paste my own comment on how sukuna would win one way or another
if sukuna was actually able to FIGHT BACK, he would have won in that moment, he is only using the techniques in his domain in order to keep mahoraga's adaptation going, if he was using any other technique, like dismantle, domain amp, etc, he wouldn't be adapting at all, there would even be a chance the adaptation process would reset completely, i don't think I need to keep going.
Now knowing that sukuna can fight back, the only reason gojo managed to land a UV was because Sukuna took 0.01 second(s) to heal and THEN use DE, now in the scenario that sukuna can actually fight back, hr probably wouldn't be as hurt, the only thing that would happen afterwards would be sukuna beating gojo in yet another domain clash.
Gojo would STILL be unable to use DE in any version, because of the same reason as the original - gojo exhausted his body by destroying his brain with CE then using RCT to heal it back in order to use a technique right after using DE, simplified: it's supposed to be impossible to use a technique after DE, but gojo still did it exhausting his body to the limits, the reason sukuna couldn't use DE anymore was because his brain was damaged by bring hit for a bit less than 10 seconds by UV, knowing he wouldn't be hit at all, he would kill gojo by enclosing his domain with a barrier, as he was originally going to do, killing the exhausted gojo who wouldn't even be able to use DE.
8:12 He got hit by UV because his domain wasn't up yet, not because he was trying to adapt
Gojo did 4 blackflashes, 2 hollow purple, evolved his DE and still couldn’t kill sukuna.
Give sukuna 2 extra arms and mouth to amp all his abilities.
Yeah gojo probably loses 8/10 times
Heian form sukuna is overkill against gojo, a meguna (megumi vessel) would probably be enough to win against gojo, since he wouldn't need to worry about the adaptation process pausing or anything, he would instead, fight back, meaning the 0.01 domain thing wouldn't happen in the first place.
How the he'll does thats makes sense sukuna whole win con was 10S if he started in prime form off rip than that means he never develope worlds slash right?
@@gnf_swampboi3305Sukuna wincon is negating infinity, he can do that by beating gojo in domain clash.
Yes, he wont develop the world slash.
Sukuna's Heian form isn't as useful against Gojo as you'd think. The only thing it'd help him with is simply giving him 2 extra arms to fight with. Chants wouldn't work because his CT's attacks can't get through infinity, while domain clashes specifically rely on who's domain is more REFINED, meaning that their domains are still equal.
@@dominocut2963finally someone who gets it, Heian era Sukuna was a beast but he's not Sukuna's strongest form. The 10 Shadows form is, the ability to adapt infinity itself without overrelying on domain expansion is what gave sukuna the W at the end.
Sure Heian era Sukuna's DE is stronger, maybe Gojo will lose the first 2 or 3 clashes and gets more injured but he's not stupid to just continue tanking, Gojo can teleport and he would just tire out HE Sukuna in that case until he sneaks out a Hollow purple to blast him into atomic level.
It’s a cool vid but there’s something that needs clarifying when it says that Sukuna is excluded from his own domains sure hit it doesn’t mean that he’s getting hit by Unlimited Void. Basically JJK is inspired by a bunch of different anime and manga on of them is Bleach one of the captains from bleach has a Bankai that works the same as Sukunas DE they even have the same “safe zone” around the user. The reason it says Sukuna is excluded isn’t because he’s trying to get hit by UV 5 times it’s just how the domain works. When Gojo uses UV it targets everything including Gojo because he has the 6 eyes he’s completely okay hence his line against Jogo “Ironic when granted everything you can’t do anything”
Basically Sukuna is still toast if he gets hit with UV he wasn’t tanking it on purpose as 0.01 secs of exposure was enough to give him permanent brain damage even when using Megumi’s soul as a shield
@@dominicyeomans3489firstly he wasn't using Megumi as a shield but as a tool to bear the burden of adapting to UV and secondly he took UV for 9 sec not 0.01 sec (*that for the difference with which gojo was faster due to which sukuna's MS collapsed and UV fully landed)
Actually the thing is sure hit can be changed via binding vows. Both gojo and sukuna are capable of changing the conditions of their domain on a fly + sukuna has shown to increase and decrease the range of its domain's sure hit too, so negating UV until the barrier breaks and then removing the sure hit from himself isn't something that he can't do
(*Even yuta managed to learn this and made his sure hit target sukuna specifically and not Yuji and Rika with angel's ct in the recent chapters)
No Sukuna purposefully omitted the sure hit around his body to have Mahoraga adapt. Domains dont have a safe zone, they just dont attack the owner. If domains had safe zones then domain clashes would be irrelevant cause the opponent's sure hits would still hit them in their safe zone *also* it doesn't make sense for Sukuna to have his domain constantly have a safe zone because it implies he would still be hit by anyone's sure hit if he got into a domain clash with anyone.
Yea, one hit from IV and Sukuna is finished. Gojo didn't kill him in the manga, because killing him would kill Megumi, as he stated during their fight. He only wanted to bring Sukuna close to death, which is why his last hollow purple didn't kill him, and only severely damaged him.
Gojo vs Sukuna without Gojo using what he learned inside the prison realm
MS lands 4 times (*if he survives the first with sukuna actually giving it his all to kill him)
If that's the case, Gojo has 0 counter to MS that is just over killing gojo 😅
Without falling blossom technique that Gojo learned from Prison Realm he can't win Domain battle against Sukuna
@@Fw_Nameless he learned fbe as a kid not inside prison realm
If we do that and no knowledge of Gojo's domain the fight may be a lot tighter, I'd argue worse for Gojo.
Because his 2nd attempt would last longer and he could still shrink his domain, just not to the same extent.
The issue is Gojo is a person who gets stronger when there's more pressure. If Sukuna takes a fair bit longer in the 2nd clash Gojo might not opt to shrink the domain.
The one major factor in this fight that some people just can't understand is that, no, just because the rest of the abilities that Sukuna didn't use aren't able to bypass Infinity by themselves, does NOT mean that they are effectively useless against Gojo in a fight.
Using chants and hand signs to amp the power of Cleave and Dismantle when Gojo is under cursed technique burnout and is using anti-domain techniques to stall and get his technique back, piling on the damage with the fire arrow and his lightning cursed tool.
Breaking the external barrier of Unlimited Void faster than Meguna was able to using his now amped technique, going harder after the first two Domain clashes (which he won) and using Domain Amplification to fight Gojo (which he did not do after the first two domain battles) instead of using Mahoraga's wheel to adapt to Infinite Void like he did in canon (Sukuna can't use Mahoraga and Domain Amplification at the same time) , and trying to break the now weaker internal barrier of Unlimited Void since Gojo switched the conditions of the barrier to make it weak to internal attacks but strong against external ones.
Gojo is even initially confused on why Sukuna is not doing this and is instead choosing to take the harder option of breaking his external barrier.
Sukuna in canon decided to fight defensively and wait for Mahoraga to adapt. With no Mahoraga, he's going to go all in in the Domain battles. The only win condition he needs to accomplish here is to not get hit with Unlimited Void so he can trap the now Domain less Gojo in a Malevolent Shrine with a barrier this time.
That's a misconception.
He was always using domain amp and Gojo commented on it in 228, Mahoraga's adaptation was just paused until after they ended the domain clash after which the wheel started turning again to adapt to UV and Sukuna mentions this himself, that's why Gojo says Megumi's soul only took on the "process of adaptation" and he hasn't actually adapted to UV quite yet.
Not to mention, do you honestly think he could've survived fighting Gojo without being able to defend himself in any way?
@@tunja7162
I'll be honest here, I don't know if it's the translation I'm reading, but I'm a bit confused now.
I looked back and checked the chapter you mentioned, and Gojo does support what you're saying. Some translations say that Sukuna has no choice other than to attack using Domain Amplification and others say Sukuna has no means of attack other than Domain amplification.
However, I looked at chapter 230, and Sukuna states directly that he couldn't use Domain Amplification within his Domain. Quoting the scan, he says
''While Unable to use amplification within the Domain, I had Fushiguro Megumi adapt to Unlimited Void using his Ten Shadows Technique''.
I get what you're saying. Sukuna uses DA in his Domain to fight Gojo while Megumi's soul takes Infinite Void, then after the Domain fight Mahoraga's wheel can turn while Domain Amplification is off, but if that's the case, what's up with Sukuna stating that he wasn't able to use Domain Amplification in their Domain's during the adaptation process?
Alright, I looked at another translation and it looks like you’re correct here. The one I was reading was just weird and said he wasn’t able to use it in his Domain. This makes the most sense with the statement after that states he could only use the technique imbued onto the barrier to fight back.
So feel free to ignore the first reply.
@@aldeberan6181 Yeah to be honest it was poorly explained and that's why it's so easily misreadable, not your fault at all like I said it's a common misconception.
They are effectively useless against a man who can teleport and draw you into him at will. He they would've been applicable he'd have used them but they weren't
Something you all kinda forget is that sukuna can use shrine in cqc really well meaning in those battles after gojo domain breaks he will start hitting him even more slashes and will have crazy mix ups as he can jump via use of his slashes leading him to crushing gojo in hand to hand possibly even hitting him with a black flash and killing him within the first few domain clashes. You can also see him letting himself lose the physical battles because he thought he was just going to win the domain clash off and then seal gojo in where everyone cant see so he could get mahoraga to adapt to infinity in a safe manner secretly and give him a way to bypass it as that was his goal the whole time. Him actually using his full CT or his four armed form after gojo domain goes down would pretty much doom gojo in the h2h fight. A lot of people forget that gojo is using spatial manip to enhance his movement strikes ect and yuji body is actually massively stronger then megumi. this pretty much means sukuna in yuji body use of his ct or his 4 armed form all kill gojo.
Gojo was strong, but I honestly think Sukuna only did the adaptation route as a way of learning a new move. He wasn't fighting with his prime strength because he didn't need it.
Ya'll forget the Hiean Era transition Sukuna did and what effects that had ?
Edit : Hahaha all you Gojo fans should be thankful to Sukuna for not taking over Yuji's body permanently with some vow or somn. The only thing holding him back would be the fact that Yuji was born to be a vessel for Sukuna ig but if Sukuna ever took over Yuji permanently, heh.....you do realize how Sukuna utilized Megumi's CT so well and brought out his true potential even better than he himself ever could. Current Yuji's abilities and power.... if Sukuna had that or could do better.. Gojo's going down even faster
the thing i want to know is if sukuna has 4 arms can he domain and use the flames in the domain? if so gojo might have a harder time and how dose sukuna with 4 arms stack up to gojo in hand to hand? no clue. just some food for thought.
Honestly he violates in 1v1 as Meguna was relative in a 1v1 with DA active and true form outclasses meguna very badly.
Yes, he could use fire arrow while in the domain with his 4 arms and also fight, problem is that fire arrow isn't a technique imbued in the domain, which means it doesn't have a sure hit effect = wouldn't get past infinity
Even so, 4 arms sukuna is Overkill against gojo, he can use domain amp to neutralize infinity, gojo is NOT going to be able to handle a 4 arms sukuna
@@protonive gojo's ct was burned out after UV broke so there was no infinity anyways + a random rock floating in jogo's domain touched gojo even when jogo's sure hit wasn't active. When jogo was about to use his sure hit gojo used UV as Yuji was there + he have no proof that infinity is only countered by the sure hit and not the domain in general as the sure hit is basically being surrounded by the barrier with ct imbued in it. Why it overwrites the infinity is unknown and it's logical explanation is that infinity is overwritten by the sure hit and doesn't exist inside a domain
@@yuvraj..6741 He was not even close to relative, he was getting beaten down while Gojo was getting hit by Malevolent Shrine and couldn't use his CT in the first domain clash. And he was getting violated while they were clashing in Gojo's first inverted barrier domain.
He caaaaaaaan shush
The battle would’ve ended as soon as gojo landed infinite void
thats like someone saying the battle wouldve ended as soon as sukuna broke gojos infinity like buddy just cause its possible doesnt mean its going to happen 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Nah
@@thisusernameisamazing4184thats crazy, in what universe was sukuna not going all out?? He broke Gojos domain and couldn't finish the job. How is this blown over, just because he doesn't have RCT doesn't mean he gets cut down. He can tank sukunas strongest attack in his domain
@@thisusernameisamazing4184like sukuna himself was protected by his domain, but purposely exposed megumi for adaptation. That doesn't mean he wasn't using 100 % domain.
That's the whole point... The main reason he was hit by UV was BECAUSE he was extending the domain clashes in order to secretly adapt.
Another argument I like to make in Sukuna's favour is that, if he were to not be able to use Mahoraga, then he would have not been in Megumi's form (since Mahoraga was one of the main reasons he wanted Megumi's body), and would likely revert to his original form before the fight even begins (or even mid fight which would lead to an instant win). If he did this, he would be much stronger in hand to hand combat, not just due to 2 extra arms, but also generally being more muscular and physically capable. This would obviously mean he is performing significantly better in these domain clashes and would not have his domain break before he can destroy unlimited void.
What's funny about this is the author could just come out and say who wins and the fanboys would still not accept it 😂
they know that they are biased
Sukuna didnt body gojo cause he wanted a new technique. There were chapter where he outright didnt fight gojo back. Gojo was never better at hand to hand, wukuna couldnt fight hand to hand cause it turns off the wheel. He held back during the first clash, we know this as he chooses to prolong the second clash. After this, he mainly evades as fighting back shuts off adaptation. He told Higuruma that using DA white trying to adapt is even hard for him to do as he don’t want to completely negate mahoraga adapting
Fight starts "domain expansion" sukuna strips his domain and spams techniques. Mid diff
4ARM sukuna spams fire arrow, cleaves and kamutoke. gojo gets cooked
EDIT-it seems some of y’all are illiterate. Sukuna blatantly held back from throwing punches on multiple occasions dad this shits off the wheel. On 232 he gets stun locked after refusing to engage. After the first domain, he evades and does not fight back for the remaining clashes.
Can sukuna fans jus not read? In the chapter where he beats Gojo Gojo says he is unsure if he could win or not THEN in like the next panel sukuna says he needed mahoraga to beat dojo, and that was something he was unable to do on his own if y’all literally go to chapter sukuna, says and I quote” .IN ORDER TO
NEUTRALIZE AND
NULLIFY YOUR INFINITY.
AFTER FIRST
ADAPTING, MAHORAGA WAS ALTERING THE ESSENCE OF ITS OWN CURSED ENERGY...
I WAITED FOR IT TO DISCOVER
ANOTHER ADAPTATION
TO COUNTER
YOUR INFINITY, ONE I COULD USE.
THAT WAS
SOMETHING | WAS UNABLE TO DO, SO I WAITED.”💀 at the end of the day I think. Gege wants to leave it up in the air who would actually win in a fair fight. because in that same chapter, Gojo says he’s unsure if he will win, but that doesn’t mean he won’t or wouldn’t win it’s just means he’s not entirely sure if he could even win or lose
It’s blatantly shown that Gojo is better at h2h. Stop meat riding
@@RIP-hd8ln this is just spitting illiteracy. Sukuns never said he needed maho, he said he wanted to make a new technique. Gojo says he’s happy he died to someone STRONGER than him. He didn’t need to have a counter to infinity to beat gojo. Read the airport chapter again
@@MindlessMenace again, illiteracy. Sukuna said he can’t fight and adapt at once. Show me sukuna throwing a punch during domain expansion when after the first clash. He blatantly threw zero punches on 232. Pls come with facts before trying to check me
Do u wanna debate on discord
Yes, He did it Sukuna beat the fraud allegation!
he didnt tho
@@spoopyghost1327there was no fraud allegation in the first place, you fail to understand that sukuna is a villain, and it doesn't seem to me that Sukuna and Gojo wrote down any rules before the fight, and anyway Gojo was sure of winning against Meguna, so... .
Heian Era Sukuna 👀@@Nandomo00
@@spoopyghost1327gojo is the biggest fraud
@@spoopyghost1327gojo is the biggest fraud
The problem is, Sukuna was not handicapping himself in any way. Megumi was the one that was taking the surehit effect of Unlimited Void, it's not like Sukuna was getting consistently damaged by Unlimited Void thus affecting his hand to hand abilities. The only "handicap" was that he was fighting 1 on 1, and not using Mahoraga or other Shikigami vs Gojo, but we already saw how that played out afterwards.
Sure you could say that he could have fought Gojo with using Dismantles and Cleaves, but that is kind of irrelevant because his Domain was already carving Gojo from all directions at once. If Gojo's already healing from thousands of slashes that are spawning on him non stop, what's gonna change from a few more slashes?
Also, Sukuna getting hit by Unlimited Void was not because he avoided using the Sure Hit on himself, it was because his domain collapsed. Gojo used his domain 0.01 seconds quicker, before Sukuna's domain was active and therefore before Sukuna avoided using the Sure Hit on himself. And after 2 minutes and 40 seconds, as stated by the narrator, Sukuna's domain collapsed, this is because Gojo was able to physically beat him faster due to the 0.01s UV stagger. This is also with Malevolent Shrine inactive, therefore not part of Sukuna's No Sure Hit on himself plan.
(Sukuna not using the Sure Hit on himself is to allow Megumi to be hit by UV in order for Mahoraga to adapt, this, more than anything, messes up Megumi not Sukuna.)
The only thing you could say is that Sukuna would just be physically stronger and his slashes would be more damaging in his full form inherently, which could give Gojo a harder time by default. But to say he was handicapping himself is wrong. Gojo thought he was taking the risky option by not using any of the 10 Shadows, but in reality Sukuna was taking the safer option. If he pulled out Mahoraga from the beginning and start the fight as a 2 vs 1 from the get go, Gojo would just kill Mahoraga. The safest option was to keep Mahoraga completely invulnerable in the shadows until it fully adapted to Gojo's domain. And by the time it adapted to Gojo's domain, Gojo couldn't use his domain anymore anyway.
In a way, while Meguna is definitely weaker than Heian Era Sukuna, he is also definitely better equipped for taking down Gojo.
Think of the Yuji and Mahito situation. While Yuji right now is much stronger than he was during Shibuya, he is also way more likely to lose vs Mahito if he insta opened his domain, because he no longer has Sukuna to bail him out and is therefore no longer immune to idle transfiguration. Your stronger form can lose vs someone weaker if they have a good counter and play it smart. I feel like Gojo and Meguna/Heian Era Sukuna is a similar situation.
Facts. Some people really treat the power system as linear.
You guys are missing the whole point of the fight. It’s that it was never even close. Gojo had to be lifted his curse of being the strongest by someone not slightly stronger/conditionally stronger but overwhelmingly stronger. 1.Sukuna had it planned from the start to use Mahoraga to help him grow to new heights. No one else but Sukuna would ever even think of using Mahoraga this way. 2.Sukuna couldn’t reveal all his tricks because he had many fights afterward, Hein form, Open, Maximum Technique, attacking the soul are all techniques Gojo knew about and knew he didn’t use, let alone the ones Gojo didn’t even know about like his Curse Tool, Hollow Wicker Basket, what else Open can possible do/the core of cursed energy that Sukuna has mentioned and not shown yet that could be the same thing 3.Gojo was actually trying to keep up with Sukuna the whole fight. He had his domain broken like 4 times before he figured out a counter, couldn’t stop Mahoraga adapting to limitless, only gained the upper hand at the end of the fight with Hollow purple just to die right after. And if you notice the two things that caused him to make a comeback are techniques he just learned (shrinking a domain and a purple outside of his body) 4.I already mentioned this, but Sukuna was just a better thinker, more skilled sorceror, and a better fighter. If they had the same technique Sukuna would kill Gojo fairly easily every fight (closed domain vs open domain, more cursed energy, better efficiency without 6 eyes, and had the whole fight planned with Mahoraga’s adaptions and then learning them being planned from the jump)
You are again wrong even Sukuna knew he could not kill Gojo with any of his CT with or without infinity that is why the main purpose was to adapt to his infinity and reach something that can cut infinity . If he knew he can kill him without problem he would just go in heian era and kill him low dif without losing his domain (that is why he lost in the first place sounds like a bad plan to me)
Because he knew he had like 6 people to fight afterward to using up Hein form gets rid of his full heal, and showing Open would allow the rest to know how it works. Sukuna was fully expecting to beat Gojo with these handicaps during the domain clash, and almost did when Gojo’s ran out (he and Gojo didn’t expect UV to work as well as it did). So if Sukuna was actually able to try his hardest the fight would go like this. First domain clash Gojo’s breaks -> Open (which is stronger than his DE which already pushed Gojo to his limit) -> even if Gojo lives this he has a lot he needs to heal and Sukuna just uses it again (he used it twice in Shibuya) or continues domain attacks and Gojo can’t do anything because he’s busy healing. Even Hein form would win without the World Cutting attack because he would have had the advantage in all hand to hand combat parts of the fight, DA plus chanting and touching Gojo Cleave, he’s shown to be way stronger and faster, and wouldn’t have gotten caught in Gojo’s domain because the added strength plus utility would be too much for Gojo to beat out as he just barely got it off without it. All of this plus someone who was just better than him, more CE, equal control without six eyes, can adapt and grow faster, true understanding of CE, better barrier user
bro this is full headcanon and cope. Sukuna almost died and his reason is to grow stronger and learn infinity? If he could kill gojo in the first place he should have already. The reason sukuna couldnt reveal his tricks is not because he doesnt want to. It's because he couldn't. It's not gonna work. How many times does gege have to explain how infinity works? He NEEDED mahoraga to win and he did. If he didn't, that just basically disrespects the whole character build up for gojo
@@prdg3455 bro this really isn’t that hard. Gojo says Sukuna was much stronger than himself. Sukuna can use open while using domain, Gojo doesn’t have infinity after domain breaks. Open is stronger than his domain which almost killed Gojo. Sukuna got cocky and thought he could easily kill Gojo without revealing any of his techniques because of the next 8 fights he had (he was kinda right, he won but took way more damage/CE than he expected)
@rner2680 Then why didn't he use it then? If he is the strongest and best fighter that u think he is why didnt he? I told you people have insane headcanon and cope. If i told u gojo could just literally fly up in the sky and let it rain hollow purples what are u gonna say? because im pretty sure the statement i said was pure headcanon
This question has already been answered if you read btw as sukuna went in and came out saying mahoraga was needed to learn how to defeat gojo/ that was his best wincon and gojo saying he would have one regardless when sukuna went in and didnt agree while also being the winner is the author saying there equal in power any the fight could have gone anyway
the spelling mistakes are WILD
@@Delibreus The backflips are wild🤸♀️🍆 it taste like milk chocolate anyways not that addicting
When did the author say they were equal in power. The narrator called sukuna the honoured one and Gojo called himself the honoured one. Sukuna the strongest sorcerer in history vs Gojobthe strongest of the modern era, if anything the author has BEEN telling us that sukuna is stronger. And Gojo is the one who’s dead 🤷🏾♂️
Sukuna said he wanted the blueprint to bypass infinity from maho (*not that it's his only win-con unlike gojo who glazed sukuna a bit too much)
@@yuvraj..6741 The fact that he wanted a blue print in the first place proves that he himself didn't have anything to bypass infinity. And even if he did, Mahoraga was clearly the better option for him to use
Thumbnail is better than any panel in that fight, SO FIREE
Finally a new video big dawg 💪🏽🔥
I find it strange how EVERYONE ignores how he had to sneak Sukuna with one of, if not THE strongest attack in all of JJK.
if you think sukuna was bailed out by mahoraga in the domain clash you also need to believe 1 of two things:
1) yuta and higuruma are capable of noticing gojo's domain landing but sukuna isn't
2) sukuna noticed that gojo's domain landed but decided to do nothing about it for the next 2 minutes
its pretty clear that sukuna was passively adapting to unlimited void in the background, the consequence of his good strategy that mahoraga was already completely adapted to UV before gojo could get the upper hand THIS IS DUE TO SUKUNA HAVING HIGH BATTLE IQ & HIS FORWARD THINKING.
Also in regards their fights within the domain it think its is unfair to judge their hand 2 hand skill in this situation. first and foremost Gojo's infinity remains up while they clash, also sukuna has nothing in his arsenal to get past infinity besides (domain amp, malevolent shrine, and world slash). well obviously he can't use world slash until he learns it & malevolent shrine is getting stalled for 3 mins while clashing with gojo's domain, leaving the only domain amplification as the only way sukuna can get past infinity while their domains are up clashing. BUT here is the big problem domain amplification interrupts mahoraga's adaptation, meaning if sukuna's strategy of having mahoraga adapt to unlimited void is to be successful he cannot use domain amplification.
So sukuna has absolutely no ways past infinity while gojo can do pretty much anything he wants. we only see sukuna using domain amplification in the during their clash once in ch. 227, and sukuna also states himself, in ch. 230, that he avoided using domain amp while inside the domains. sukuna getting beat up inside of gojo's domain while he is literally incapable of doing anything to defend himself is not the hand 2 hand feat you think it is for gojo.
as for the rest of the fight past ch. 230, it is similarly unfair to use that as an example of gojo's h2h superiority because how is mahoraga going to adapt of sukuna doesn't get hit? If you want a clear representation of each fighters skills in h2h look at ch. 224-ch. 227 both fighter throw a bunch of strikes but none land. The first clean strike is from gojo in 227, if gojo does have an advantage in h2h it is smaller than gojo fans like to admit.
no sukuna knew about gojos domain landing but sukuna transferred UVs damage to megumis soul so he could tank its hits to start the process of adaptation and maho to destroy gojos domain incase his domain fully lands
Definitely depends on the translation u use. Jump’s Gojo says its close but other translations like TCB Gojo straight up says he’d lose.
The fact Gojo thinks defeat is debatable confirms to me 10S never mattered.
Fugo would be GG for Gojo.
What about whenever Gojo hit sukuna w/ DE without mahoraga sukuna would’ve been cooked
@@Delibreus
That wouldn't even be a scenario as sakuna wouldn't even risk that
He would just destroy gojo domain like he did in chapter 228 on the outside.
This would not be gojo in sakuna domain as a sitting duck as he is using rct to its LIMITS just to survive malevolent shrine
@@Delibreus if sukuna was actually able to FIGHT BACK, he would have won in that moment, he is only using the techniques in his domain in order to keep mahoraga's adaptation going, if he was using any other technique, like dismantle, domain amp, etc, he wouldn't be adapting at all, there would even be a chance the adaptation process would reset completely, i don't think I need to keep going.
Now knowing that sukuna can fight back, the only reason gojo managed to land a UV was because Sukuna took 0.01 second(s) to heal and THEN use DE, now in the scenario that sukuna can actually fight back, hr probably wouldn't be as hurt, the only thing that would happen afterwards would be sukuna beating gojo in yet another domain clash.
Gojo would STILL be unable to use DE in any version, because of the same reason as the original - gojo exhausted his body by destroying his brain with CE then using RCT to heal it back in order to use a technique right after using DE, simplified: it's supposed to be impossible to use a technique after DE, but gojo still did it exhausting his body to the limits, the reason sukuna couldn't use DE anymore was because his brain was damaged by bring hit for a bit less than 10 seconds by UV, knowing he wouldn't be hit at all, he would kill gojo by enclosing his domain with a barrier, as he was originally going to do, killing the exhausted gojo who wouldn't even be able to use DE.
It’s just Gege doing damage control for sukuna that statement seems like it was only written for arguments about this exact thing
"never"? Sukuna is getting his ass beat rn because he got weakened to the point where all that he can do is use hollow wicker basket. Who's to say gojo wouldnt be able to inflict enough damage to produce the same effect? @ahmadadnan4773
One consistency that I’ve been seeing amidst the speculations and theories are their domain clashes.
Sukuna and gojo’s domain are canonically equal. The only benefit one has over the other is that one has a barrier, and the other does not.
Let’s say for theory’s sake that gojo went up against a fully reincarnated sukuna instead of megumi’s body.
The only clear advantages sukuna would have are his extra mouth and arms, and his barrier-less domain. That’s it.
Complete superiority in hand to hand combat; infused with blue, endless cursed energy output management, an instant victory assured domain effect, and the most important, though admittedly broken ability of all, infinity, would be more than enough to take down the king.
Without spamming domain expansion and domain amplification, a full powered, hein era sukuna would not be able to touch gojo.
Let me repeat that.
Without spamming domain expansions and heavily relying on domain amplification, nothing, wether it be the black box, powered up cleave and dismantles, a barrage of nuclear arrows. Nothing would be able to penetrate infinity.
It was that big of an obstacle. Now, that said. Does sukuna still have the upper hand? For sure. Despite the fact that the battle could go either way mainly due to environmental and strategical factors from each individual fighter, whenever the domains begin to clash, sukuna will almost always have the edge.
But that shouldn’t sway impeding victory from either side. The truth is, gege was smart enough to show us this battle without completely letting gojo finish the series off entirely on his own. Narratively, he had to go.
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I disagree that Sukuna not putting the sure hit on himself would've protected him from the 0.01 sec, the domain was a fraction of a second faster meaning that stun still would've hit before the protection of the domain activated meaning Gojo just would've repeated the damage and shut down shrine
If we are removing mahoraga then there is no reason for sukuna to use megumi's body he will be still in Yuji without that binding
I don’t think he willingly excluded himself it’s just something that kinda happened cause his sure hit can’t target himself or else he’ll get cut gojo domain is the only one where the sure hit just doesn’t affect him but sukkuna slashes would just hit him 😅
That's not how it works, gojo and sukuna are both capable of changing the conditions of their domain on a fly. So using the sure hit of MS to negate UV isn't something that can't be done.
Fck even yuta's learned this and changed his sure hit to specifically land on sukuna and not of Yuji and the others inside his domain currently
@@yuvraj..6741 you’re not maiking sense they can change the conditions doesn’t mean sukkuna can let his own sure hit hit him or else he’ll take fucking damage and sukkuna and gojo can’t exclude others from their domain like yuta as shown in shibuya when gojo(excluding the touching the person )had to hit everyone and sukkuna had to shrink his radius to save everyone 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️ domain sure hits just don’t target the user or else Dagon would take damage from his own fish and so would sukkuna and all of them except gojo .so pls read the manga before you talk shit … you’re correlating changing domain conditions to self targeting two different things
@@greatminikwu9089 you didn't get the point at all though. Increasing and decreasing the range of your sure hit via binding vows is something he has already done. If that's possible then making the sure hit target yourself until a certain period and then changing it to not Target you can be done too via the same method.
Yuta's was basically an example of how he too can change the conditions of his sure hit.
@@yuvraj..6741 can’t you think 🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️ sukkuna me gojo sukkuna and gojo can’t do that shit stop saying rubbish if sukkuna could have excluded someone from his sure hit he would have done it in shibuya he’s even suprised yuta can do it ,sure hits of domains don’t target the user except gojo if they did we would see angels ladder hitting yuta all the time and many more that’s how domains just work use your brain 🙄if sukkuna targeted himself he would get cut that’s basic logic
@@greatminikwu9089 I am NOT saying sukuna and gojo can do exactly what yuta did. I am saying the concept behind changing the conditions of these domains might be the save (*binding vows) - as for yuta,let's forget him already.
My point was if the effective range can be increased and decreased via two binding vows despite being in exact contradiction to each other (*similar to how gojo first makes the barrier big and then very small in succession) then putting and Removing the sure hit on yourself should be possible too
(*Besides its sukuna can use DA to protect himself with DE too + it's sukuna's ce and won't damage him nearly enough, similar to how the purple didn't damage gojo enough so your point of sukuna dying with gojo with his own ct is lame and uninteresting)
He still would figured out the world bisecting slash
Nope, been stated
@@TeslaRBLX false, never stated. In fact context clues and statements show the opposite. So what you got?
He said it was extremely difficult to pull off even with mahoragas help, this is very unlikely
You’re stupid 💀
@@Shireikai that’s not really proving anything but okay. Sukuna has shown to able to tell what someone techniques is without even seeing it or find away around it. Even him having maharoga was to have him show him how to do it fast, you know in like under a hour I’m guessing.
but..what-? gojo lives sukunas domain and just heals. why not this time. was i just not paying attention or sum? 😭
The issue is decreasing output from damaging & healing his brain, by the 4th or 5th clash its questionable if Gojo would have strong enough rct to survive in MS
@@hungrynibba4152 But Gojo would not even need to do that if he can just tank the domain and keep breaking it. He likely kept spamming his domain in the manga fight, because he knew Sukuna had Mahoraga to adapt. There would be no point in doing that against base Sukuna who has no adaptation.
Gojo has lost his RCT output his healing would be a lot slower thus it would have killed gojo, it was basically implied that gojo was going to die if sukuna brain was never fried.
If gojo wasn't in prison realm timeskip..he wouldn't learn changing his domain specifications...he would instantly be in pieces...even though he manage somehow...as sukuna's domain will be prepared for unleashing fuuga..and then gojo is turned to ashes
There is a big difference in this fight gojo faught to kill sukuna and save megumi while sukuna jusrt wanted to upgrade his dismantle so sukuna clearly wasn't going all out
I think Gojo has a few ways to break a closed DE from Sukuna if he used it
A red shot that circles back around to break it
Purple from a distance outside with incantations
Multiple blues from outside
Destruction of the shrine from inside also
Does this sound plausible to you guys or nah?
Like sukuna didn't use a closed domain you know
Something that was plausible was gojo could've teleported outside the range of MS to rest and recuperate his output and use a purple to destroy the MS (*as we don't know if a barrierless domain can change its coordinates or not)
Although gojo went all out with the UV instead because he knows once UV lands it's gg's
@@yuvraj..6741 yeah I know he didn’t use a closed domain but he was sure talking crazy like he could but his brain was fried lol
@@SaionjiWorld yeah, gojo later has a monologue saying UV damaged the part of sukuna's brain specifically in charge of barrier techniques. Kinda coincidental tbh, if gojo didn't have this monologue the entire credit would've gone to UV's A.P anyways.
You do know the actual shrine is not a physical object so it cannot be destroyed as it is made of C.E
only to destroy malevolent shrine is by either placing your own domain equal to it..or disrupt sukuna
If Gojo still has his experience from the Prison Realm then Sukuna’s getting walked down all the same. Gege wholeheartedly implied that Gojo the Height of the power scaling system and that’s exactly what we saw.
Gojo had 4 applications of Blue that he used to wear Sukuna down. Enhanced punches with Blue, teleportation, Attracrion Points, and Telekinesis. With just Blue we have a lifetime of panels of Sukuna getting dragged around Shibuya. Even in the opening moments sukuna got tossed by telekinesis and Gojo even through a bridge at him. The difference makers of the fight is the neutral barrier and the instakill of his Void.
Sukuna’s technique is so basically but he’s so skilled at getting it off like he’s Steph Curry with that Cleave and Dismantle. We wouldn’t see him use any curse tools or the fire arrow since it’s just as useless as cleave and dismantle. On paper Gojo is the worst possible matchup for Sukuna. Clutching the 3v1 with a fully adapted Mahoraga shouldve closed the door on who was stronger but that depends on how you slice it I guess. The prison realm experience is the key deciding factor.
Sukuna with 4 arms , DA , continuous chanting is def stalling gojo for 3min 11sec, sukuna wins this during domain clashes only.
@@somerandomdude1605 The chanting only works with cleave and dismantle. There's no evidence to suggest it can power up domains. Also, domains rely on refinement, not who's domain is stronger or who puts more CE into it.
@@dominocut2963 well this doesnt mean that sukuna cannot handle gojo for 3min 11sec in his heian form.
Finally, no cope just facts. Tired of these brain dead Gojo stan
I feel like something a lot of people don’t consider is that Sukuna saying he could kill gojo in yujis body was before he really understood the strength of gojo. By that point he had only fought him for a brief amount of time with 1 fingers worth of strength.
Sukuna would probably just lose to time
Without Mahoraga there's no fight. Halfjo the low diffed one stands virtually no chance. Sukuna wouldn't bother sitting in a majorly weaker body. He would just transform and win every single h2h exchange leading to Halfjo's eventual loss after he runs out of domains.
Furthmore Sukuna would have 24/7 DA on since he wouldn't care about Mahoraga adapting and he would be able to use Fire Arrow to scorch the low diffed one as soon as 226.
Btw, yes fire arrow lands in domain. Halfjo doesn't acknowledge Sukuna using both DA and DE simultaneously until 227. Which means Sukuna fought without DA whole 226. Thus his attacks all land on Halfjo. Not just his domains attacks.
All I’m seeing down here is a bunch of Sukuna glazers😂
or people who read the manga lol
@@chocolategranola6796 ppl who are very BIASED towards sukuna, gojo has too many options against sukuna and because of his personality he chooses the harder way to fight sukuna, gojo can literally choose not to cast domain and just use his CT inside sukuna’s domain, RCTing at the same time and literally break it with ease due to the fact that he can use his CT and sukuna has to rely on DA and DE to kill gojo, gojo would be able to use red and blue to fight sukuna inside of it and just injure him and break it, after that gojo quite literally can just use DE to end things since sukuna wouldn’t even have his CT or have the option of healing it since gojo wouldn’t show him, tell me this is cap and ur js braindead gang
entire fight should of been won on the 200% purple if Gojo doesnt fuck around
fire purple
tp to sakuna
unlimited void while sakuna hands are occupied / destroyed
gojo had the W from the sneak attack but he stopped to gloat , sakuna was defenceless for a good few seconds
Domain amp. And he can still use his ct after he’s hit by uv. So he just goes into the shadows and then summons a shadow form Agito to negate his ct
1: sukuna ate 2 hollow purples and still survived
2: gojo is no exception to his own technique, if he teleports to sukuna, he is too getting beamed by his own 200% hollow purple, not even counting they would probably be flung away
I don't see how gojo really could have done anything there, other than take a hit from himself that is.
The amount of people who wanted the fight to end before it even started is crazy 💀
I've seen like 10-12 people arguing how gojo should've been a coward and won via sneak purple + UV with a 1-2 sec opening. Like dude come on, firstly it's gojo we're talking about who'd never do this and secondly all it'd prove is sukuna was stronger and gojo needed this to win (*which is true to a degree given sukuna's incarnation)
Interesting...
And if Mahoraga had targeted Gojo's head with the world slash instead of his arm that would also be cool right, keep that same energy
one more thing to add would be, inside the domain battles, since sukuna won't be using the ten shadows, he can fire of his own techniques other than the innate ones of the domain. He will unleash fuga the fire arrow ending gojo inside the domain or atleast severely dmg him
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Ah yes, because Gojo would simply stand there and allow fire arrow to hit him 😂😂😂Gojo is not Mahoraga who simply just keeps moving forward with no thought process.
I am a Sukuna fan and even I can admit, Gojo diffs Sukuna without mahoraga. Besides his domain he has no way of hitting Gojo and even then Gojo can use anti domain techniques or rct to heal
Domain amp and also in his regular form he wouldn’t have been brain damaged by UV meaning he would still have his domain (gege stated that UV is less effective against Cursed spirits which is why mahito was able to use his domain against todo despite getting hit with UV at the station.) so in conclusion Sukuna would legit win due to domain clashes as eventually as seen in the manga gojos brain would be damaged due to his strat of using RCT on his brain. That’s not even getting in to him potentially getting incinerated by divine flames while malevolent shrine is active
Call me crazy but Sukuna intentionally taking UV beforehand literally has nothing to do with why he was late on the final clash
Man, your thumbnail art is sick
Where can I find more of it??
Gojo gets one shot by an Amped fire-arrow after Sukuna destroys his domain from the outside. Since infinity is turned off, he has no counter to it.
The arrow sukuna needs to charge for a long ass time? Sure
Sukunatards struggling to use more than 2 braincells. If Sukuna starts charging fire arrow, does Gojo stand there and wait for it to charge? 😂
The narrator also said that delay lag of the domain caused Sukuna to get hit by UV for 0.01 seconds and that's why he lagged for just an instant giving Gojo the chance to hit. Also that time Gojo could have gone for the head if he didn't want to save Megumi.
Meguna (without his Heian true form body) can't defeat Gojo without the 10S, while I think he would instead win if he fully reincarnated in his heian body.
That's fine and all but meguna without 10s won't hold back from using his ct's inside MS or choose riskier options in the domain clashes. And if we change it to yujikuna we don't know if gojo will even be able to damage him enough in 3 min twice because of Higher durability let alone the marginal opening of 0.01 sec which won't exist
You are skipping quite the factors - you see, the reason for the delay for sukuna to use DE in the first place was because of using RCT to heal and THEN using DE, sukuna was simply not fighting back against gojo, not because he couldn't, but because if he used any technique like dismantle, cleave, or domain amp, the adaptation ritual would pause, not adapting to shit at all, or possibly even reset, loosing the whole point in using the 10 shadows.
Now in the situation that sukuna is ACTUALLY fighting BACK, he wouldn't need RCT to heal in the first place, the only thing that would happen next is gojo loosing another domain clash, getting damaged try again
Unlike sukuna, gojo would STILL be unable to use DE, because he was pushing his body to do what was supposedly impossible (using CE to destroy his brain and then using RCT to heal it back in order to be able to use techniques right after using DE, which was supposed to be impossible, that's ended up exhausting his body), while sukuna couldn't use DE because of the brain damage caused by staying in UV for a bit less than 10 seconds
Now in the situation that sukuna wasn't hit by UV in the first place, hr would do what he originally stated he planned to do - which was enclosing his domain with a barrier, which would kill the exhausted gojo then and there.
Heian form sukuna is an overkill against gojo, meguna is the most balanced it can be for gojo.
PD: any 20 finger version of sukuna can beat Gojo, gojo isn't really better at H2H when sukuna was straight up not fighting back, if he was using domain amp to do so, heian form sukuna would also be too much, Yujikuna has superhuman strength even without enhancing himself with CE, it would also be too much for gojo to handle, meguna is only way to give gojo a chance (to breathe.)
@@protoniveI’m pretty sure sukuna couldn’t use domain expansion right after a previous one just because there’s a cool down because your curse technique is burnt out, not because megumi was getting hit by domain expansion. So there would still be be lag in between Sukuna using domain expansion.
@@FTL_SAN it was literally STATED Sukuna couldn't use his domain because of being a bit less than 10 seconds in UV, and that sukuna was in a way better shape than gojo as he was not exhausting his body by using the tactic of using CE and RCT on his brain to reset the cool down on techniques
@@protonive I just re read most of the fight. Honestly sukuna seemed a whole lot more impressive than what I gave him credit for. Sukuna states that the reason he was getting beat so bad in the domains was because he couldn’t use domain amplification since he was using ten shadows to adapt. But even if Sukuna was also able to use domain amplification to lessen the damage that gojo was delivering, I still believe Gojo would have been able to tie in domain clashes with Sukuna.
You gotta remember Gojo wasn’t using purple the whole fight. He didn’t want to destroy megumi’s body and he was more concerned with just getting megumi close to death. Say Sukuna inhabited a random evil bystander, the same wouldn’t apply. So when Sukuna gets hit with attacks like red in the domain, he would suffer far worse damage if it had been a purple. Eventually leading to the point where Gojo beats him in a domain clash by .01 seconds.
Sukuna himself, due to only focusing on having Mahoraga adapt, didn't do a LOT of things offensively.
Sukuna was also snuck by a maximum technique at the start of the fight.
In regards to the first interpretation of the fight, Sukuna could reincarnate and the body fight would turn into Sukuna's favor again. Sukuna would've won either way.
Sorry Gojo losing was just plot, Gojo was far superior to sukuna in hand to hand combat, so why did he bother clashing domains ?
All Gojo has to do is box sukuna and if sukuna uses his domain then Gojo just teleports out of range …. Then it’s game. Was so dumb that he kept clashing domains when he could just box him and win
hes not ''far superior'' in hands, not only did he fail to land a single hit on sukuna in chapter 226 (until he recovers his cursed technique), he also fails to land a single hit on sukuna during the 3v1, and any time sukuna uses domain amplification, they are both shown relative in combat, the only time you see sukuna getting ragdolled is when hes not using domain amplification aka when hes bearing the burden of adapting on mahoragas behalf. yes. sukuna had to carry mahoraga for most of the fight for it to not get instantly killed by gojo, putting himself in harms way
Gojo wins because Sukunas win con was Mahoraga, its heavily implied that this is the case, the story was written for Sukuna to win, otherwise Gege would have kept him in Yujis body.
Another gojotard that can't read 🤣🤣🤣
Well, there is so much arguments for these two in the fight, but in the end the victor needs no epithet
Sukuna is just too smart, he was losing hand to hand with Megumis body. I doubt Sukuna would lose in his original form he's probably dealt with someone like Gojo in the past, like he had dealt with someone with similar ability like Mahoraga. Sukuna plays with his opponents and IMO Gojo was no different, he was limit testing and Gojo knew it.
Well, Gege confirmed in an interview recently that Gojo would have won if Sukuna didn’t have Mahoraga.
Suklowna fanboys failling to accept suklowna gets claped by goatjo without plot armor
Gayjo fans after Gojo escaped the prison realm, without a justifiable explanation, and saying "He's him" as the reason he was able to escape
Plot armor? Speaking of plot, convenient how gojo magically learned rct a nanosecond away from dying, anyways, using plot as an argument is not only lazy, you fail to realize that everything that happens in a story is because of plot, you can make excuses for literally anything by calling it ''plot''. Next time come up with a valid point
2 in which Sukuna wins and 1 in which Gojo wins. Still gotta give props to Gojo for violating him in every domain during a fist fight
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The main argument for why people think Gojo lost to plot is that Gojo was never told about Sukuna's open domain. Choso knew that Kenjaku had the ability to open a domain without a barrier. You would think that was a huge thing because that is the reason Yuki died in the first place. Choso mentions that fact after the fight had already started. If Gojo was told about this and told to expect that Sukuna probably also has an open domain he would have been able to train and plan around that fact.
Considering also that Sukuna had literally years worth of battle experience compared to Gojo and still almost lost to him speaks about Gojo's sheer power and intelect. He is the honored one and always will be the honored one.
One thing, it's Space Dismantle and not Cleave
there is a difference
Cleave adjusts it's power to destroy the opponents body via measuring the Cursed Energy of the target
Dismantle just cuts shit in it's way regardless of Cursed Energy
Cleave is used on beings with Cursed Energy, Dismantle is used on literally anything else
Bingo, Cleave has no Max output aside from Sukuna using it on literally a being of his level of CE.
Dismantle had the potential to be turned into the max output tecnique Space dismantle (or worldwide dismantle), by having Sukuna alter the targetting parameters, paying way more CE and having to add incantations and hand sign to it.
I think a lot of people still don't understand why Sukuna seemed to be in danger/on the brink of death multiple times, this was in Gojo/jujutsu sorcerer's pov and he was getting hit on purpose... Also Sukuna honestly could've gone all out from the start using his heian era form (A fight that would've been mid-high diff), but obviously because of the fights he has after with the jujutsu sorcerers, he necessarily can't go 'all out'. He also gets deliberately hit by Gojo's techniques because he wants to 'evolve' his technique into a world slash.. It's not like Sukuna couldn't win against Gojo without the world slash, he was just trying to add a technique that can slash SPACE itself to his arsenal. Like for example he could've just opened his domain from the start (he would win the domain clash) and use his flame arrow to finish Gojo if he was in his Heian era form...
I agree with everything you said but you didn’t talk about some stuff. 1.) Sukuna still has his Heian transformation that can instantly replenish his health, increase his attack potency, increase the number of attacks, and possibly give him the edge in hand to hand. 2.) Sukuna still has black box fuga that he’s been shown to be able to use in his domain expansion (during the fight with Mahoraga) 3.) Sukuna had prep time plus full knowledge of Gojo’s techniques (due to his time in Yuji’s body) going into the fight. Meaning that if they had hypothetically fought during the Heian era Gojo would have a higher chance of winning.
Sukuna had the clear edge on DE battles and he wasnt even full power. The 4 arm, double mouth Sukuna that can chant and use multiple CT at once would have been too much to handle for a CTless recovering Gojo, especially with stuff like his lightning bolt summoning vajra
If both gojo and hiean sukuna go into this fight with no background knowledge about each other at all, then I’m pretty sure sukuna would have lost. Not because he is weaker. It would be because he wouldn’t know unlimited void would have one shot him. In the first domain clash, he would have absolutely shattered gojo’s domain like what happened. Except he probably would have used the fire arrow. Now would that have been enough to end gojo? I highly doubt it. All i know is that gojo would have found a way to land his domain one time and win instantly because sukuna could never have known it’s an instant win move. Sukuna had tons of information and prep time to win against gojo.
I like how you said the win con for gojo is just "he gets a good blow on HEIAN body Sukuna then wins"
If Sukuna could beat gojo with his own strength he would have, he has too much ego and pride to rely on another 's technic instead of his own unless he needed too.
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The same sakuna that says to megumi he would do anything to adapt if he could 💀
Yea, tell me u don't know sakuna without telling me
While watching the video, I never got what you mean when saying "Sukuna wouldnt get hit by infinite void because he would not purposefully exclude himself from the sure hit". Isn't the whole point of that panel is that IV hit sukuna before his domain's sure hit can even manifest? Regardless if he excludes himself from MS sure-hit or not, wouldn't IV hit him anyways becuase it landed BEFORE it clashed with the other sure-hit?
Also, didn't we see Gojo still beat the brakes off sukuna even after we see his domain shatter in the first clash?
idk man, gojo is the goat after all
also, no, the fight is NOT an extreme diff. not once do we see gojo close to death or even significantly damaged, meanwhile we see sukuna get on his knees like 3 times throughout the fight.
gojo wins frfr
U guys are...
Did u not see how sukuna was destroying gojos in every domain fight? If it wasn't for sukuna trying to improve his shrine then he could have use domain amp to not received damage and beat gojos on there last domain battle without sukuna domain being late