Massey Ferguson is one of the number one selling tractors in the world. I really like their farm equipment it has came a long way from the 24 speed transmission in 2000 series we have a Massey Ferguson 2745 with the 8 speed transmission one tough tractor a pure power house
They are a good looking machine. I just bought a Massey Ferguson 5711 Dyna 4 lots of great features. The Dyna 4 power shift transmission is amazing 16X16 lots of power from the agco power engine. About an hour ago I pulled a fully loaded semi truck with 30 ton of my soybean on it out of the field. Just a little to soft and greasy.
One thing about it Jason , your not all about one brand of farm equipment on your you tube channel, plus always liked Massey Ferguson tractors even I was a kid an that's been along time . Can't wait for big 4800 series of tractor to come back . 👍👍👍🇨🇦
I gotta say, Massey Ferguson has come a long way. Not sold on the fact that they are on par with Case or Deere? They have made big improvements for sure. Enjoyed the video Jason!! GO BTP 💪
I have driven Massey Ferguson since the 50’s. I would place them head and shoulders above Deere and Case. Better on fuel efficiency. Better on the dyna Cvt transmission. Much quieter. Better on visibility from the seat. Seat more comfortable than my chair in the man cave.
@@AJmx2702001 strange, theAgco Sisu engine,formerly vatra/valmet is probably the best engine in agriculture,for reliability and performance and it's lack of thirst
@@bufferbridge sisu is a great engine, not sure if AGCO has dropped the quality but when Valtra was their own company the quality of sisu was excellent
I wish AGCO would get a plan and stick to it. Seem to push Massey, then decide in a couple of years that it's all about Fendt...then back to Massey. And the hodge pidge of dealers that can only sell certain lines and not others. You go to a Deere dealer and they can sell you anything Deere makes (ag). Same with Case. AGCO has some really great stuff but seem to find ways to shoot themselves in the foot. I own AGCO equipment, love it, but they sure are a pain to deal with.
I think they should have just let each brand do it's thing to a further extent and target different types of buyers, instead of basically badgineering tractors like GM of the 1990s. I don't really consider these true MF tractors at all anymore, despite seeing some nice quality equipment. Alas, I'm just armchair quarterbacking over here, and I'm not the CEO of a multi-billion dollar corporation, so my recommendations to AGCO are worth exactly what they paid for them.
First thing I noticed inside the cab. I don't really care for the A pillar mounted instrumentation that everyone has gone to, but you certainly can't complain about a gargantuan EPA can hanging off the side.
I'm not sure it was the 2000 series as a whole, but the V8 and the 24 speed surely did it's part to cripple the company. The axial flow combine, yeah it was awesome and had all the farm equipment manufacturers shaking in their boots.
Really interesting video Jason and theat new Massey looks like they have put some thought in to it. I know the sales guy was saying that Massey had interviewed a lot of farmers but were they just US based farmers of did they speak to farmers all around the world? I know that the requirements of farmers in Europe would be different than those in the USA/Canada, and they would be different to those of farmers in other countries (always curious when companies say we listened to what customers want).
He did mention only the US website for these, so I'm thinking this may for now only be a USA/Canada model. I wouldn't be surprised if they offer a Euro spec model later as you guys certainly have your preferences and differing regulations.
@@ChevyConQueso It's been available in Europe for a year now. Definitely has a lot of euro influence in design. Which is actually a good thing for the most part
I think the 8S is the most beautiful Massey Ferguson tractor ever built, I may order one or two, but I have been wondering one thing...... DOES IT HAVE A CUPHOLDER? LOL
Great videos - no bias - simply good info. I do have one request as I’m getting older and not up to date on some of the jargon. For example, CVT transmission. Would you please ask the person you’re interviewing to use the words which the acronym represents. In all your videos, I watch them all. Keep up the good work.
Being in the different updated brands..do you think Massey is right there with others or maybe even better than others??…sounded super quiet….do you know if they come with front duals in NA??…we can’t wait for the larger versions to come out..hopefully as big or bigger than the fendt 1000 series…great coverage as always
@@Zero01k if that’s true then that really sucks…Agco is supposedly phasing out the challenger line next year. I was wondering if they might switch those 1000 series tractors over to Massey. A lot of ag people dont realize how big masseys following is. That would be one hell of a lineup of red tractors…
There will be a 9S to replace the 8700s. They'll probably top out at 400 some hp. Challenger is already discontinued. I don't expect any 1000 series size massey
The reason why more people don't have MF machinery is because there aren't a lot of dealers that sell non utility tractors for AGCO in some areas and they don't have the best dealer service
Who cares what it looks like, what you should care about is how it goes out in the fields, look at John Deere & Fendt, ugliest tractor ever made, but they are leading the way in their technology, thats what Massey needs to do win . p.s. I am Ferguson/Massey Ferguson thru and thru, my father came back after WW2, changed his business from automobiles to agriculture machines, first with Fordson, but a chance meeting with Harry Ferguson he changed to Ferguson, you could say I was born with a Ferguson spanner (wrench over pond!) in my hand to my mothers BIG surprise....
@@andyhutch8262 Well, here in America where this was filmed, a lot of farmers care what their equipment looks like. Just like they do their trucks or their farms. If you're going to spend a half million on something, you should enjoy being in it rather than being embarrassed by it. MF has had some of the most hideous tractors through the years, but they have had some really sharp models as well like the models this one is replacing. I still like the looks of this new one, but that gaudy silver stripe needs to be thinned down some. BTW- I happen to think JD has made some of the best looking tractors.
They have to make Fendt. That was in writing part of the agreement when they bought them. Also I have heard that Massey is really popular in Europe which I'm guessing why there keeping them around.
I personally like it better from a technical as well as personal standpoint. Cheaper to replace one smaller malfunctioning screen, separate functions into their respective modules, and also I don't have to search as much since I know basic instrumentation for the engine is top right, crop/implement data in the middle, and tractor/powertrain down low next to the machine's controls. Also more visibility the way it's set up without a big area of the window blocked by a screen. To each their own; I can certainly see how others would prefer one big screen.
Nice looking tractors but not enough updates to the power train side to make it pull like a deere or CNH machine does .. Pushrod engines are simple and easier to maintain but just lack the bottom end torque with get with OHC engines . It seems to me they still want to push the Fendts for the High horse torque applications
its so funny how they say "agco-famous" when talking about the cvt transmission. cause its not agco famous, its a fendt transmission that they came up with in germany, they pioneered it there and it was the first on the market anywhere. so its fendt famous not agco famous.
Fendt is not remotely common here in my state which is twice the size of Germany, and it isn't a storied brand like Case, IH, JD, or MF, so no, it certainly isn't Fendt famous, and neither is anything else to us or a good chunk of the world. I hadn't even seen an actual Fendt in person until last year, and that was parked on a dealer lot. (Nice looking machine by the way). Aside from location, I'd say 23 years of global Agco ownership and production pretty much makes it theirs to say whatever they want about it.
@@robwar2288 i just read up on it. it was 1970 that fendt built its first cvt transmission. before that 1960 it was Eicher that built the first ever tractor with it equipped. agco was founded in 1990 and bought fendt in 1997 from the five heirs which where the kids of xaver and herman fendt, that didnt want to continue the firm sadly. ( i like companies that are still family owned, like Claas ) nowhere did i read that fendt went broke, it and we have a 1950 fendt and its still running well. it is the most expensive tractor for a reason.
I don't get it. They already had the 8700S that went to 370 hp (rated). Seems like a step backward. Also, on a personal note, I despise the "." in model naming. NH does this too. How do you say the model name? Do you pronounce the "dot", or ignore it? If the latter, why have the "dot" in the first place? With Agco seemingly taking a step back from its Challenger brand (no models on web site below MT700 series now), I'd like to see them switch the remaining models to MF colors. Relying upon one full-range brand (Fendt) is not how you increase market share, especially given the underdeveloped dealer network for that brand.
You do say the dot in 8S.265. There already is a 6S series so I suspect we will see a 9S series replace the current 8700S series. The new 8S series replaces the 7700S series. The only challenger tractors available in 2021 were the MT800, MT700 and MT1000. The MT600E was retired in 2019 and the MT900E in 2020. In 2022 only the MT800 and MT700 models will be available.
Massey Ferguson is one of the number one selling tractors in the world. I really like their farm equipment it has came a long way from the 24 speed transmission in 2000 series we have a Massey Ferguson 2745 with the 8 speed transmission one tough tractor a pure power house
Watching from Australia down under and we are loving the videos great work you all have done
Good to see a new and improved Massey,you know im a Massey Fan....👍👍
The 8S is an awesome tractor😁👍
Nice interview👍😉
They are a good looking machine. I just bought a Massey Ferguson 5711 Dyna 4 lots of great features. The Dyna 4 power shift transmission is amazing 16X16 lots of power from the agco power engine. About an hour ago I pulled a fully loaded semi truck with 30 ton of my soybean on it out of the field. Just a little to soft and greasy.
That’s a super nice tractor. Very quiet too
Massey Ferguson 8s.265 👍👌
Great salesman, knowing his stuff.
As usual great video btp... 👍 👍
I find them alot more interesting knowing they're made near by to me
One thing about it Jason , your not all about one brand of farm equipment on your you tube channel, plus always liked Massey Ferguson tractors even I was a kid an that's been along time . Can't wait for big 4800 series of tractor to come back . 👍👍👍🇨🇦
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I gotta say, Massey Ferguson has come a long way. Not sold on the fact that they are on par with Case or Deere? They have made big improvements for sure. Enjoyed the video Jason!! GO BTP 💪
we have quite a few here in the UK, believe me, they are on a par with Deere and CNH, the cab is something else
I have driven Massey Ferguson since the 50’s. I would place them head and shoulders above Deere and Case. Better on fuel efficiency. Better on the dyna Cvt transmission. Much quieter. Better on visibility from the seat. Seat more comfortable than my chair in the man cave.
@@bufferbridge They dont rate on par to power and torque here in the USA though
@@AJmx2702001 strange, theAgco Sisu engine,formerly vatra/valmet is probably the best engine in agriculture,for reliability and performance and it's lack of thirst
@@bufferbridge sisu is a great engine, not sure if AGCO has dropped the quality but when Valtra was their own company the quality of sisu was excellent
I wish AGCO would get a plan and stick to it. Seem to push Massey, then decide in a couple of years that it's all about Fendt...then back to Massey. And the hodge pidge of dealers that can only sell certain lines and not others. You go to a Deere dealer and they can sell you anything Deere makes (ag). Same with Case. AGCO has some really great stuff but seem to find ways to shoot themselves in the foot. I own AGCO equipment, love it, but they sure are a pain to deal with.
I agree.
It's been hard on the dealers as well. Even their engine program has changed 5-6 times.
I think they should have just let each brand do it's thing to a further extent and target different types of buyers, instead of basically badgineering tractors like GM of the 1990s. I don't really consider these true MF tractors at all anymore, despite seeing some nice quality equipment. Alas, I'm just armchair quarterbacking over here, and I'm not the CEO of a multi-billion dollar corporation, so my recommendations to AGCO are worth exactly what they paid for them.
@@ChevyConQueso these are MF's own tractor but the CVT does use sister company Fendt gearbox
I like that it does not have the giant muffler that most tractors have now.
First thing I noticed inside the cab. I don't really care for the A pillar mounted instrumentation that everyone has gone to, but you certainly can't complain about a gargantuan EPA can hanging off the side.
Because it's a small tractor and that is all under the hood and side panels.
It's because AGCOPOWER engines don't need a diesel particulate filter
I worked for a MF dealership from 78-84. They had great tractors and combines. The 2000 series tractor and the axial flow combine killed MF.
I'm not sure it was the 2000 series as a whole, but the V8 and the 24 speed surely did it's part to cripple the company. The axial flow combine, yeah it was awesome and had all the farm equipment manufacturers shaking in their boots.
Grew up with MF starting on Fathers 165, , helped on neighbours farm 590, 575, 698, 699, then on tofriends farm 2620, that one was the dream machine.
Reminds me of Massey Ferguson of the 80’s but nice quiet cab an other improvements.
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Wish you could get Valtra, especially in those states with winter & Canada. :/
Massey Ferguson mais de que trator é uma lenda.pra quem conhece como eu desde os 50x
Really interesting video Jason and theat new Massey looks like they have put some thought in to it. I know the sales guy was saying that Massey had interviewed a lot of farmers but were they just US based farmers of did they speak to farmers all around the world? I know that the requirements of farmers in Europe would be different than those in the USA/Canada, and they would be different to those of farmers in other countries (always curious when companies say we listened to what customers want).
He did mention only the US website for these, so I'm thinking this may for now only be a USA/Canada model. I wouldn't be surprised if they offer a Euro spec model later as you guys certainly have your preferences and differing regulations.
@@ChevyConQueso It's been available in Europe for a year now. Definitely has a lot of euro influence in design. Which is actually a good thing for the most part
Looks good .
I think the 8S is the most beautiful Massey Ferguson tractor ever built, I may order one or two, but I have been wondering one thing......
DOES IT HAVE A CUPHOLDER? LOL
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Take a drink every time the salesman says "really".
Great videos - no bias - simply good info. I do have one request as I’m getting older and not up to date on some of the jargon. For example, CVT transmission. Would you please ask the person you’re interviewing to use the words which the acronym represents. In all your videos, I watch them all. Keep up the good work.
Acronym definition would be an excellent addition.
Constantly variable transmission
Thats a beautiful front wheel assist tractor but its time you started making a 400 -600 hp articulating tractor
Challenger?
AGCO did uo until I think last year
Agco Has the Frent for their big tractors. They going to focus on the Frent for their largest tractors.
Being in the different updated brands..do you think Massey is right there with others or maybe even better than others??…sounded super quiet….do you know if they come with front duals in NA??…we can’t wait for the larger versions to come out..hopefully as big or bigger than the fendt 1000 series…great coverage as always
AGCO has limited Massey to mid range tractors, Fendt will be your big dog from AGCO for the foreseeable future, AGCO is having another mid life crisis
@@Zero01k if that’s true then that really sucks…Agco is supposedly phasing out the challenger line next year. I was wondering if they might switch those 1000 series tractors over to Massey. A lot of ag people dont realize how big masseys following is. That would be one hell of a lineup of red tractors…
There will be a 9S to replace the 8700s. They'll probably top out at 400 some hp. Challenger is already discontinued. I don't expect any 1000 series size massey
Great vídeo.
Great informative video, why more people don't have MF machinery is beyond me. John T
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The reason why more people don't have MF machinery is because there aren't a lot of dealers that sell non utility tractors for AGCO in some areas and they don't have the best dealer service
I love the looks of MF tractors more than any current tractor. Not crazy about this new wide silver stripe though.
Who cares what it looks like, what you should care about is how it goes out in the fields, look at John Deere & Fendt, ugliest tractor ever made, but they are leading the way in their technology, thats what Massey needs to do win . p.s. I am Ferguson/Massey Ferguson thru and thru, my father came back after WW2, changed his business from automobiles to agriculture machines, first with Fordson, but a chance meeting with Harry Ferguson he changed to Ferguson, you could say I was born with a Ferguson spanner (wrench over pond!) in my hand to my mothers BIG surprise....
The silver stripe is call back to the old 2005 Masseys, though, not sure I'd want to remind people of the 2805
@@andyhutch8262 Well, here in America where this was filmed, a lot of farmers care what their equipment looks like. Just like they do their trucks or their farms. If you're going to spend a half million on something, you should enjoy being in it rather than being embarrassed by it. MF has had some of the most hideous tractors through the years, but they have had some really sharp models as well like the models this one is replacing. I still like the looks of this new one, but that gaudy silver stripe needs to be thinned down some. BTW- I happen to think JD has made some of the best looking tractors.
@@404nitro You took the words right out of my mouth.
@@404nitro looks are something, but if you look at looks and not your budget, you might be doing it wrong
When and where do they hold the farm show at?
Dang i love the 8s but the Usa version not my thing
I'm supposed to be getting mine in the spring. It'll be specced out mostly European style. They can be ordered whichever way you like
Does anybody know of any scrap yards in Ohio may have a stigers cougar series 3 three-point hitch?
Why doesn’t Agco make an Agco tractor and stop putting different names and rappers on there engines and power trains?
They have to make Fendt. That was in writing part of the agreement when they bought them. Also I have heard that Massey is really popular in Europe which I'm guessing why there keeping them around.
Hopefully SpecCast will make on for the model farm collectors
What’s that black thing in the cab on the RH side of the operator up against the glass? Also what size and brand of engine is it?
Probably a GPS monitor
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Have Massey Ferguson and a John Deere both are great tractors.
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Why 3 screens? Seems like one screen would be simpler in more than one way
I personally like it better from a technical as well as personal standpoint. Cheaper to replace one smaller malfunctioning screen, separate functions into their respective modules, and also I don't have to search as much since I know basic instrumentation for the engine is top right, crop/implement data in the middle, and tractor/powertrain down low next to the machine's controls. Also more visibility the way it's set up without a big area of the window blocked by a screen. To each their own; I can certainly see how others would prefer one big screen.
Nice looking tractors but not enough updates to the power train side to make it pull like a deere or CNH machine does .. Pushrod engines are simple and easier to maintain but just lack the bottom end torque with get with OHC engines . It seems to me they still want to push the Fendts for the High horse torque applications
I'm sorry but you are really confused. The cvt transmission in this is miles better than the deere or CNH equivalent
Isn't this the same cab as the JCB fastrac 4220
I don’t think so. AGCO builds their cabs.
its so funny how they say "agco-famous" when talking about the cvt transmission. cause its not agco famous, its a fendt transmission that they came up with in germany, they pioneered it there and it was the first on the market anywhere. so its fendt famous not agco famous.
Yes but AGCO has owned Fendt since 1998 and has implemented this transmission across the world on all its brands.
Fendt all but went broke designing that trans. The only Reason Deere didn’t buy Fendt was Deere Wanted to rebrand the tractor obviously.
Fendt is not remotely common here in my state which is twice the size of Germany, and it isn't a storied brand like Case, IH, JD, or MF, so no, it certainly isn't Fendt famous, and neither is anything else to us or a good chunk of the world. I hadn't even seen an actual Fendt in person until last year, and that was parked on a dealer lot. (Nice looking machine by the way). Aside from location, I'd say 23 years of global Agco ownership and production pretty much makes it theirs to say whatever they want about it.
@@robwar2288 i just read up on it. it was 1970 that fendt built its first cvt transmission. before that 1960 it was Eicher that built the first ever tractor with it equipped.
agco was founded in 1990 and bought fendt in 1997 from the five heirs which where the kids of xaver and herman fendt, that didnt want to continue the firm sadly. ( i like companies that are still family owned, like Claas )
nowhere did i read that fendt went broke, it and we have a 1950 fendt and its still running well.
it is the most expensive tractor for a reason.
I don't get it. They already had the 8700S that went to 370 hp (rated). Seems like a step backward. Also, on a personal note, I despise the "." in model naming. NH does this too. How do you say the model name? Do you pronounce the "dot", or ignore it? If the latter, why have the "dot" in the first place? With Agco seemingly taking a step back from its Challenger brand (no models on web site below MT700 series now), I'd like to see them switch the remaining models to MF colors. Relying upon one full-range brand (Fendt) is not how you increase market share, especially given the underdeveloped dealer network for that brand.
You do say the dot in 8S.265. There already is a 6S series so I suspect we will see a 9S series replace the current 8700S series. The new 8S series replaces the 7700S series.
The only challenger tractors available in 2021 were the MT800, MT700 and MT1000. The MT600E was retired in 2019 and the MT900E in 2020. In 2022 only the MT800 and MT700 models will be available.
Yes, there will be a 9S.
@@zimmermanservice7474 do you there will be something like a 10s series with 4WD/track tractors ranging from 400 to 600HP in a foreseeable future?
Good deal of factually incorrect information in this video.
Please give some examples so it can be corrected.
I have one of these on order. I didn't hear a single thing that wasn't correct