Thanks for making the process very clear. You’re a really thoughtful and considerate person in the way you present your tutorial. 😊 Happy Worry-Free Riding! 🚴 💕
@@antonioclarence Do you mean coming out where you installed the flatOut or where the tube and valve stem connect? If it was escaping at the at the valve core, I wouls say the core wasn't seated tight enough.
@@antonioclarence We run this formula in tires with 110psi with no issues. You can remove the core and deflate, clean the core and stem well with a q-tip and re-install the core if you want to run at higher psi. Sounds like there may have been some fiber stuck and keeping the core from getting a 100% seal.
The principle of using micro fibers is the same as a log jam under a bridge after a storm or you might think of a beaver dam. The other thing is unlike a patch, flat out becomes a very slow leak. How slow? Well don't put your bike up for the winter and expect to hop on it in the spring, but that is always true to some extent. .
Been having lots of punctures on my new ebike. Have put tannus inserts in and find your vid very informative indeed! If I have anymore punctures I shall be watching your vid again!? Thanks again.
hi Jayson, Thanks for sharing your experiences with the Himiway. I ordered mine almost two weeks ago and i'm looking forward to it. I received notice it was "on the way" within only a couple of days but the FEDEX delivery day came and went, status now reads "pending". Patience is a virtue my mother used to say. Have a great summer on your bike.
flatout recommends the sportsman formula for e-bikes they also have quantities for different size bikes a 26x4 takes 16oz each tire and 20" bikes 8-10 oz per tire. also be careful airing up to to keep tire centered on wheel if you want a great video showing several options for flat prevention watch the video on Bolton E Bikes channel it is the reason i choose flat out it works. If you do get a thorn or nail and you park your bike pull it out and position puncture at the bottom to seal it. if you pull it out riding just keep riding this stuff works
My unfortunate experiences have been with screws & nails ,as most cyclists know you ride on the side or shoulder of road that where all the crap and debris accumulate just waiting for you , Mr.Tuffy tire liners are pretty good for thorns but no match for nails etc. If you decide to use liquid sealants make sure you rotate wheels to the 1 o'clock position to prevent valve stem clogging.
I’ve watched several videos, most of them comment that the valve core flies out when unscrewing, and I’m thinking, why don’t they deflate the tire first 😂😂
Great encouragement! I was having some trouble trying to make Flat Out flow with vice grip like hands . I figured out a way after taking a break to think through what could be wrong. I searched for an antidote and that's when I found your channel. I was determined to find out how this could be happening when it's suppose to be easy. It's funny now because I did manage to get'er unclogged... by clearing the airway. Breathing some air in [without the valve stem], what I then heard was like a pop so I stopped pumping and started back withe the vice grip hands on the Flat Out... surprisingly much easier to get decent flow. The second wheel was much easier...that was so wierd. Thanks for the motivation on my break to figure this out. (: Still guessing on the amount I put in. It's not easy to tell how much is left during the process.
I do like the auto steel stems better than the standard stems, they have a nut to hold them in place. It is easier to install, less likely to be damaged and won't push in when trying to inflate.
Thanks for sharing, as I too am looking for a solution for flats on my 'new to me' Himiway step-thru Cruiser. I have the bottle sitting front of me, so it looks to be an easy process indeed!
Hi Jayson, thanks for this video. I've used Slime on all of my electric rideables and I've never had a flat, going thousands of miles. My Himiway is on the way and I was wondering about this given how wide the tires are. I am definitely open to trying this other product. You gave a great tip at the end to buy a core removal tool, and the only other tip I would recommend your viewers use is to buy a bag of spare valve cores. They are only a few dollars on Amazon, just in case there's a problem with the core once it's removed. Whenever I get a new rideable I always have to fight to resist the urge to jump on it immediately, but I always slime first, LOL.
Thanks for the comment. So far so good...no flats yet, and we went on a 20 miler last weekend and gonna try again this weekend. Hope you enjoy your bike and thanks for the idea of picking up more cores!
You figure the bikes are heavier, tires are wide and pretty thin. I've noticed that glass shards are way more of a problem that I remember from other bikes/tires. Especially good quality ones. I really wish people would step up the fat tire game. Most of what we're getting is really bad quality for high prices. I mean, there's a few good ones out there. But I don't see much in the way of a really solid solution.
I believe mots of the tires are from China. You'll find Kenda on a lot of different models...I'm sure it's to keep the price down...bat the cost of quality.
This is going to help me so much!! Thank you for a clear and concise video. Do you recommend riding the bike after putting in the Flat Out? if so, how long?
Sure, why not? Claims to stay in liquid form for years whether you ride or don't. I imagine the centrifugal force of riding will help it spread about, but when you stop for the day, it'll pool up. But nothing on bottle or website says you must wait a bit after applying. Go ride and have fun. Thanks for watching.
Okay, at the time of the recording, I had a difficult time finding actual information. Things have obviously changed and with the increase in eBikes, I'm sure Flat-out made updates. I did have one gentlemen from Flat-out comment on this video and it appeared he was 'okay' with my 8oz suggestion, but by all means...if you feel more comfortable adding more, go for it. Personally, if we're talking a small nail, I don't think it's necessary, and so far so good. Thanks for the info!
Would this work for a back wheel of an e bike having trouble finding the hole were the air leaks and hard to take out my back wheel since it's connected to my chain and motor so wondering if I can just put this in and hopefully fix it?
No they aren't tubeless. I don't really plan on doing a lot of off-road biking or riding in construction sites, so I'm too worried. Anything is possible, but I minimize my risks where I can...I'm just a casual rider. I think maybe for short term or casual like me, it's just fine. If I were a more aggressive rider, or did extreme paths and terrain, I may consider moving to what you suggest. That being said, this stuff doesn't last forever...May need to change it out once a year or so...
I bought a bottle of flat out I’m waiting for it to arrive. The amount that you put inside the tires on a fat tire bike varies from person to person I heard put half the bottle and each tire which would be 16 ounces. I’m thinking 16 ounces also because I have a 26 inch bike. Have you had any punctures on your Hemingway bikes since you put the product in the tires? And also does it go into presto valves effortlessly ?
Good question. Some research I did online does indeed point to similar products can freeze at around 32 degrees, but that's assuming you're keeping it outside, unmoving, for hours at a time. Hopefully you have it in a garage, or the motion of riding doesn't keep it a chance to freeze, but I'm sure it is a slim possibility.
The problem with slime/flat-out is,if it works atall,that it adds weight to an already heavy wheel and adds imbalance.Far better to fit Tannus liners,and yes I know they are much more expensive,but if you get a puncture using Flat-out you also have a mess inside the tire to clean up.
I humbly disagree. I am only adding, at most, 8oz of Flat-out per tire...you can add less (so overall I'm adding less than 1lb of weight, total). Each Tannus liner weighs significantly more than 8oz. Additionally, while it is in a semi-viscous form, as soon as your start pedaling and pick up enough speed the centrifugal force within the tube will evenly disperse the product and avoid imbalance. It is used in motorcycles and other vehicles with no problem. Since I made this video, I've been out quite a few times and have noticed no difference. Finally, unlike slime, Flat-out is water soluble making it much easier to clean with water. I got a little on my hands and it wasn't sticky at all whereas slime has a different formula altogether. Alan, I'd give it a try...it really is apples and oranges when compared to Slime.
I know this was 10 months ago but the manufacturer did some research and advised adding more about 16 ounces per tire which means one bottle should do 2 tires..the thing I'm concerned about if you do have to replace the tire and you let all the air out won't you be letting out the flatout too?🤔
@@trini_boi2414 that's why you do it with your valve stem between the 10 and 2 position. If you do get any in the valve stem you can just clean it out with a q-tip or blow it out with compressed air and reinsert the core.
Knock on wood, not yet. But admittedly we haven't been riding that much. It's either been pouring rain, extremely hot, or we've had family obligations. We did ride yesterday for 10 miles, and hopefully more soon as I just got a hitch installed on my truck for a rack. I'll probably do a video of that when I assemble the rack.
I have an Ariel Rider D-class and have had success with this stuff. An important thing to be aware of is that when you do get a puncture (you'll hear it, it sucks) the tire will lose a couple psi so having a way to pump your tire back up is really handy. I carry a little battery powered tire inflator because using a normal portable bike pump on a fat tire bike takes a really long time.
I saw 16 as well. Had a flat on a new Aventure after 22 miles...picked up a small nail. Patched and ordered FlatOut to put in. Plan on doing 16 per tire. Running tires around 20psi.
If it's a 20x4 you use about 8-10oz per wheel. That's straight from the people at FlatOut. Also for e-bikes the sportsman's formula is recommended. They've done extensive testing on e-bikes used for hunting with different size tires and that's the ticket. Good luck and ride safe!
Flat out actually has a dosage calculator at their web site. Assuming you have a fat tire (3.5" or greater) with a 20" wheel, they say about 10oz. If smaller than 3.5" wide, they suggest 8oz. Either way, about 1/4 the bottle is pretty average, per tire.
Good question. I'm not sure it's "impossible", but I would think it would be very difficult and a chance to gum up the valve itself....which would be pretty bad. I'd ask your local bike shop without actually seeing the tire in person.
@@jaysonolson33 I decided to replace the tubes with tubes that have a presto valves with removable inner cores. The shop also added Flat Out to the new tubes. It was worth the $45 to do so.
I agree. I'm a casual rider and this was meant for temporary fixes for us weekend warriors. I would fully expect someone to patch their bike tube properly or replace when they have a chance.
What a pain in the butt this stuff is. Trying to put in my Escape and having trouble getting it to go in. The stuff can go all over the place. The bread broke on the tire. The stem slipped. Thank god I had the rotor covered. It's worth it in the long run but this stuff is a pain. I don't think the Sportsman formula I'm using should be any thicker than the regular. Just beware. Doing this might not be a walk in the park.
You don't want to do that. Just makes a mess. Just keep your psi between 6 and 13 psi. No more then 15. Do that and you should get 2, 3 thousand miles between Flats.
I've recently adjusted mine to about 22-25. I ride mostly on paved or hardpack gypsum/gravel. I might go down if I new I was riding more uneven or loose landscape.
No I did not get the liners. If i biked more often and went off road a lot more, I'd probably consider it. I wouldn't recommend using both products together, it's overkill and I think a waste of the slime/flatout if you install liners.
I'm putting flat out in both my e bikes stuff is far superior to any of the other products here's a comparison video. Thanks for the tutorial. th-cam.com/video/-X0y-2AsGRk/w-d-xo.html
On a FB forum, someone said they talked to Brad at FlatOut and he recommended for 4”, 26” fat tire bikes, that 16oz per tire was the recommended amount….FWIW. I too read where 8oz per tire was appropriate. Hmmm…may just split the difference!
Thank you for the step-by-step instructions, I’m a visual learner. I actually inserted a Tannus Liner and the Flat Out in my rear tire and just the Flat Out on the front, I never get a front flat so hopefully now I shouldn’t get a rear flat no time in the near future.
I was considering the Tannus liner and also using Flat Out with the Tannus liners. Maybe overkill but I wasn't sure both can be used together. I hate my day being ruined by a flat tire.So using the Tannus liner and Flat Out works well together?
I would normally agree, but there are no real instructions for 'fat tires' on the bottle, and fat tires come in different sizes. Mine are 4" wide by 26", so I just decided to do close to 1/4 bottle. I don't think it will hurt one way or the other if you add a tad more or a tad less. Thanks for watching.
You said 8 ounces...but I cant find anything anywhere that recommends this product for bicycles, so how would you know how much to put in?....Am i missing something?
A quick Google search will often show about 4oz for a 'standard' bike tire. Because these are fat tires, you can assume to double at minimum. You could probably do even 10oz per tire, but really don't see the need unless you plan on riding over a bed of nails. You just need enough to plug a small puncture, and 8-10oz should coat the inside of the tires with centrifugal force. Since the bottle comes in 32oz, and we have 2 bikes, it's just easy to device by 4, 8oz per each tore gets equal coverage...So far so good. Best of luck.
I agree, the plastic can be very weak and can waver under pressure with some valves that seem to not want to budge. I would for sure recommend spending the $8-10 for the 'real' tool. Thanks for watching.
@@jaysonolson33 I bought that tool at auto part store for $2.49. Cheaper then Amazon. Amazon is starting to become overpriced compared to some local business.
Well, I guess it wouldn't hurt, but I think it's overkill. Most punctures are going to be nails, so we just need enough for centrifugal force and internal air pressure to seal it up. I would assume most people would take the time to actually fix with a proper patch or replace the tube when they get home. Not sure this is meant to be a permanent fix, and what size nails or holes are you expecting? Thanks for the watch!
Thanks for making the process very clear. You’re a really thoughtful and considerate person in the way you present your tutorial. 😊 Happy Worry-Free Riding! 🚴 💕
Thanks for the kind words. I know it's been a while since I posted anything, but thanks....I do appreciate it.
Great job demonstrating how easy this is. I just received my two Himiway bikes on Friday and have the Flat Out sitting in my garage.
Thanks. I'll be doing a few more soon. Thanks for watching and have fun and be safe.
Kelly here with FlatOut. 26x4 should get 16oz for best performance. Freeze protected to -32 below. Thanks for the review!
Thanks Kelly. That's great info and appreciate the watch!
@@antonioclarence Do you mean coming out where you installed the flatOut or where the tube and valve stem connect? If it was escaping at the at the valve core, I wouls say the core wasn't seated tight enough.
@@antonioclarence We run this formula in tires with 110psi with no issues. You can remove the core and deflate, clean the core and stem well with a q-tip and re-install the core if you want to run at higher psi. Sounds like there may have been some fiber stuck and keeping the core from getting a 100% seal.
Good video, good instructions on using the Flat Out, thanks!
Thanks bud. I wondered how that stuff went into bike. Good thorough demonstration. Thanks again.
The principle of using micro fibers is the same as a log jam under a bridge after a storm or you might think of a beaver dam. The other thing is unlike a patch, flat out becomes a very slow leak. How slow? Well don't put your bike up for the winter and expect to hop on it in the spring, but that is always true to some extent. .
Thanks, I was looking for a Schrader valve tutorial just to be sure. Love your Boba poster in the background!
Thanks for watching. And I know the poster is a bit crooked too, but too lazy to fix.
Been having lots of punctures on my new ebike. Have put tannus inserts in and find your vid very informative indeed! If I have anymore punctures I shall be watching your vid again!? Thanks again.
Excellent video! Helpful as usual! Thank you!
Thank you for the kinds words and watch. Be safe and have fun!
hi Jayson, Thanks for sharing your experiences with the Himiway. I ordered mine almost two weeks ago and i'm looking forward to it. I received notice it was "on the way" within only a couple of days but the FEDEX delivery day came and went, status now reads "pending". Patience is a virtue my mother used to say. Have a great summer on your bike.
Have fun!
flatout recommends the sportsman formula for e-bikes they also have quantities for different size bikes a 26x4 takes 16oz each tire and 20" bikes 8-10 oz per tire.
also be careful airing up to to keep tire centered on wheel
if you want a great video showing several options for flat prevention watch the video on Bolton E Bikes channel it is the reason i choose flat out it works. If you do get a thorn or nail and you park your bike pull it out and position puncture at the bottom to seal it. if you pull it out riding just keep riding this stuff works
Great info...I'll check em out.
ALL THIS INFO SOUNDS GOOD SO FAR TO ME AS IM READING🙂
My unfortunate experiences have been with screws & nails ,as most cyclists know you ride on the side or shoulder of road that where all the crap and debris accumulate just waiting for you , Mr.Tuffy tire liners are pretty good for thorns but no match for nails etc. If you decide to use liquid sealants make sure you rotate wheels to the 1 o'clock position to prevent valve stem clogging.
I used a slime tube for my mountain bike and, STILL got a flat. I don't like slime products
VERY HELPFUL AND INFORMATIVE. THANK YOU SO MUCH.
Glad you enjoyed it and got some useful nuggets out of it
Don't forget to deflate your tire before you go to remove the stem-core. It's 30lbs of pressure.
I’ve watched several videos, most of them comment that the valve core flies out when unscrewing, and I’m thinking, why don’t they deflate the tire first 😂😂
Great encouragement! I was having some trouble trying to make Flat Out flow with vice grip like hands . I figured out a way after taking a break to think through what could be wrong. I searched for an antidote and that's when I found your channel. I was determined to find out how this could be happening when it's suppose to be easy.
It's funny now because I did manage to get'er unclogged... by clearing the airway. Breathing some air in [without the valve stem], what I then heard was like a pop so I stopped pumping and started back withe the vice grip hands on the Flat Out... surprisingly much easier to get decent flow. The second wheel was much easier...that was so wierd. Thanks for the motivation on my break to figure this out. (: Still guessing on the amount I put in. It's not easy to tell how much is left during the process.
I do like the auto steel stems better than the standard stems, they have a nut to hold them in place. It is easier to install, less likely to be damaged and won't push in when trying to inflate.
To lazy to read instructions on the bottle, always was more visual. I actually thought it went around the tube not in it. Now I know, thanks
Thanks for sharing, as I too am looking for a solution for flats on my 'new to me' Himiway step-thru Cruiser. I have the bottle sitting front of me, so it looks to be an easy process indeed!
Good luck! So far we're still good on ours..no flats yet!
Hi Jayson, thanks for this video. I've used Slime on all of my electric rideables and I've never had a flat, going thousands of miles. My Himiway is on the way and I was wondering about this given how wide the tires are. I am definitely open to trying this other product. You gave a great tip at the end to buy a core removal tool, and the only other tip I would recommend your viewers use is to buy a bag of spare valve cores. They are only a few dollars on Amazon, just in case there's a problem with the core once it's removed. Whenever I get a new rideable I always have to fight to resist the urge to jump on it immediately, but I always slime first, LOL.
Thanks for the comment. So far so good...no flats yet, and we went on a 20 miler last weekend and gonna try again this weekend. Hope you enjoy your bike and thanks for the idea of picking up more cores!
Having Flat-Out in the tires is an almost guarantee of never having a flat tire.
How much sealant for a 20x2.40 tire ? Would it be too bad if I out more than recommended ? I know it will cause extra weight.
Subscribed..great video!
Thanks for watching!
You figure the bikes are heavier, tires are wide and pretty thin. I've noticed that glass shards are way more of a problem that I remember from other bikes/tires. Especially good quality ones. I really wish people would step up the fat tire game. Most of what we're getting is really bad quality for high prices. I mean, there's a few good ones out there. But I don't see much in the way of a really solid solution.
I believe mots of the tires are from China. You'll find Kenda on a lot of different models...I'm sure it's to keep the price down...bat the cost of quality.
This is going to help me so much!! Thank you for a clear and concise video. Do you recommend riding the bike after putting in the Flat Out? if so, how long?
Sure, why not? Claims to stay in liquid form for years whether you ride or don't. I imagine the centrifugal force of riding will help it spread about, but when you stop for the day, it'll pool up. But nothing on bottle or website says you must wait a bit after applying. Go ride and have fun. Thanks for watching.
Company recommends 16 ounces per tire for an ebike, not 8
Okay, at the time of the recording, I had a difficult time finding actual information. Things have obviously changed and with the increase in eBikes, I'm sure Flat-out made updates. I did have one gentlemen from Flat-out comment on this video and it appeared he was 'okay' with my 8oz suggestion, but by all means...if you feel more comfortable adding more, go for it. Personally, if we're talking a small nail, I don't think it's necessary, and so far so good. Thanks for the info!
Would this work for a back wheel of an e bike having trouble finding the hole were the air leaks and hard to take out my back wheel since it's connected to my chain and motor so wondering if I can just put this in and hopefully fix it?
Hi Jayson, fantastic video, are your tyres tubeless? If so, do you know if this product is just as effective with tube tyres?
No they aren't tubeless. I don't really plan on doing a lot of off-road biking or riding in construction sites, so I'm too worried. Anything is possible, but I minimize my risks where I can...I'm just a casual rider. I think maybe for short term or casual like me, it's just fine. If I were a more aggressive rider, or did extreme paths and terrain, I may consider moving to what you suggest. That being said, this stuff doesn't last forever...May need to change it out once a year or so...
I bought a bottle of flat out I’m waiting for it to arrive. The amount that you put inside the tires on a fat tire bike varies from person to person I heard put half the bottle and each tire which would be 16 ounces. I’m thinking 16 ounces also because I have a 26 inch bike. Have you had any punctures on your Hemingway bikes since you put the product in the tires? And also does it go into presto valves effortlessly ?
It didn’t work on my EUC EXN unicycle. But thanks for the video
I put it in my bike. IT Works!
Do you think it could freeze up during winter time?
Good question. Some research I did online does indeed point to similar products can freeze at around 32 degrees, but that's assuming you're keeping it outside, unmoving, for hours at a time. Hopefully you have it in a garage, or the motion of riding doesn't keep it a chance to freeze, but I'm sure it is a slim possibility.
The problem with slime/flat-out is,if it works atall,that it adds weight to an already heavy wheel and adds imbalance.Far better to fit Tannus liners,and yes I know they are much more expensive,but if you get a puncture using Flat-out you also have a mess inside the tire to clean up.
I humbly disagree. I am only adding, at most, 8oz of Flat-out per tire...you can add less (so overall I'm adding less than 1lb of weight, total). Each Tannus liner weighs significantly more than 8oz. Additionally, while it is in a semi-viscous form, as soon as your start pedaling and pick up enough speed the centrifugal force within the tube will evenly disperse the product and avoid imbalance. It is used in motorcycles and other vehicles with no problem. Since I made this video, I've been out quite a few times and have noticed no difference. Finally, unlike slime, Flat-out is water soluble making it much easier to clean with water. I got a little on my hands and it wasn't sticky at all whereas slime has a different formula altogether. Alan, I'd give it a try...it really is apples and oranges when compared to Slime.
I know this was 10 months ago but the manufacturer did some research and advised adding more about 16 ounces per tire which means one bottle should do 2 tires..the thing I'm concerned about if you do have to replace the tire and you let all the air out won't you be letting out the flatout too?🤔
@@trini_boi2414 that's why you do it with your valve stem between the 10 and 2 position. If you do get any in the valve stem you can just clean it out with a q-tip or blow it out with compressed air and reinsert the core.
So Jayson... It's been a while since you made this video... Any flats?
Knock on wood, not yet. But admittedly we haven't been riding that much. It's either been pouring rain, extremely hot, or we've had family obligations. We did ride yesterday for 10 miles, and hopefully more soon as I just got a hitch installed on my truck for a rack. I'll probably do a video of that when I assemble the rack.
I have an Ariel Rider D-class and have had success with this stuff. An important thing to be aware of is that when you do get a puncture (you'll hear it, it sucks) the tire will lose a couple psi so having a way to pump your tire back up is really handy. I carry a little battery powered tire inflator because using a normal portable bike pump on a fat tire bike takes a really long time.
I actually learned something. Thanks.
Thanks for the kind words. I'm glad it helped you, as I'm learning as I go along as well!
I have a flat on my rad rover ebike
I saw it was 16 oz not 8 oz. so I think I’ll do more research
I saw 16 as well. Had a flat on a new Aventure after 22 miles...picked up a small nail. Patched and ordered FlatOut to put in. Plan on doing 16 per tire. Running tires around 20psi.
Jayson 1 question. I have an Addmotor fat tire (20inch) Ebike. How much Flat-out approximately do you think for each tire? Thanks
If it's a 20x4 you use about 8-10oz per wheel. That's straight from the people at FlatOut. Also for e-bikes the sportsman's formula is recommended. They've done extensive testing on e-bikes used for hunting with different size tires and that's the ticket. Good luck and ride safe!
Flat out actually has a dosage calculator at their web site. Assuming you have a fat tire (3.5" or greater) with a 20" wheel, they say about 10oz. If smaller than 3.5" wide, they suggest 8oz. Either way, about 1/4 the bottle is pretty average, per tire.
This is not a temporary fix as you say the manufacturer claims it's a fix meaning if it do stop the leak problem solved but good video tho👍
Can I add it to presta valves that don't have removable inner cores?
Good question. I'm not sure it's "impossible", but I would think it would be very difficult and a chance to gum up the valve itself....which would be pretty bad. I'd ask your local bike shop without actually seeing the tire in person.
@@jaysonolson33 I decided to replace the tubes with tubes that have a presto valves with removable inner cores. The shop also added Flat Out to the new tubes. It was worth the $45 to do so.
Do you have to top up at some point? If so how often ?
I don't think so. The website claims it will last upwards of 10 years, so I think unless you changed tubes or got a lot of flats, you should be okay.
I found that the FlatOut product to be very very difficult to install.
Invest your time learning how to replace or patch a tube don't depend on a tire sealant. Using it is OK but always have a spare tube and patch kit
I agree. I'm a casual rider and this was meant for temporary fixes for us weekend warriors. I would fully expect someone to patch their bike tube properly or replace when they have a chance.
I need fiat out right now
What a pain in the butt this stuff is. Trying to put in my Escape and having trouble getting it to go in. The stuff can go all over the place. The bread broke on the tire. The stem slipped. Thank god I had the rotor covered. It's worth it in the long run but this stuff is a pain. I don't think the Sportsman formula I'm using should be any thicker than the regular. Just beware. Doing this might not be a walk in the park.
You don't want to do that. Just makes a mess. Just keep your psi between 6 and 13 psi. No more then 15. Do that and you should get 2, 3 thousand miles between Flats.
I've recently adjusted mine to about 22-25. I ride mostly on paved or hardpack gypsum/gravel. I might go down if I new I was riding more uneven or loose landscape.
Did you get the tannus and do they work together
No I did not get the liners. If i biked more often and went off road a lot more, I'd probably consider it. I wouldn't recommend using both products together, it's overkill and I think a waste of the slime/flatout if you install liners.
@@jaysonolson33 I agree
I'm putting flat out in both my e bikes stuff is far superior to any of the other products here's a comparison video. Thanks for the tutorial. th-cam.com/video/-X0y-2AsGRk/w-d-xo.html
On a FB forum, someone said they talked to Brad at FlatOut and he recommended for 4”, 26” fat tire bikes, that 16oz per tire was the recommended amount….FWIW. I too read where 8oz per tire was appropriate. Hmmm…may just split the difference!
That's great information. Thanks for sharing!
Thank you for the step-by-step instructions, I’m a visual learner. I actually inserted a Tannus Liner and the Flat Out in my rear tire and just the Flat Out on the front, I never get a front flat so hopefully now I shouldn’t get a rear flat no time in the near future.
Glad you found it helpful. I too am a visual kinda guy. Be safe and travel far and have fun!
We have the liners also and my girl still got a goat head flat slime fixed it but I'm adding this stuff to my bike I think it's better than slime.
I was considering the Tannus liner and also using Flat Out with the Tannus liners. Maybe overkill but I wasn't sure both can be used together. I hate my day being ruined by a flat tire.So using the Tannus liner and Flat Out works well together?
@@ozzie444 I hope so lol. I would just do flat out but already have the tannus I'm my tire.
Don’t guess on the amount of flat out. Look at the side of the bottle.
I would normally agree, but there are no real instructions for 'fat tires' on the bottle, and fat tires come in different sizes. Mine are 4" wide by 26", so I just decided to do close to 1/4 bottle. I don't think it will hurt one way or the other if you add a tad more or a tad less. Thanks for watching.
You said 8 ounces...but I cant find anything anywhere that recommends this product for bicycles, so how would you know how much to put in?....Am i missing something?
A quick Google search will often show about 4oz for a 'standard' bike tire. Because these are fat tires, you can assume to double at minimum. You could probably do even 10oz per tire, but really don't see the need unless you plan on riding over a bed of nails. You just need enough to plug a small puncture, and 8-10oz should coat the inside of the tires with centrifugal force. Since the bottle comes in 32oz, and we have 2 bikes, it's just easy to device by 4, 8oz per each tore gets equal coverage...So far so good. Best of luck.
@@jaysonolson33 FlatOut recommends 16 oz. for fat tires.
Thanks, I am just getting ready to add this to my new Lectric.
Glad I could help
That cap is the worst tool to use to remove the stem
I agree, the plastic can be very weak and can waver under pressure with some valves that seem to not want to budge. I would for sure recommend spending the $8-10 for the 'real' tool. Thanks for watching.
@@jaysonolson33 I bought that tool at auto part store for $2.49. Cheaper then Amazon. Amazon is starting to become overpriced compared to some local business.
My FlatOut came with a nice metal stem remover taped to the outside.
8oz? Shouldn’t it have been 16oz? 26” x over 3.5”?
Well, I guess it wouldn't hurt, but I think it's overkill. Most punctures are going to be nails, so we just need enough for centrifugal force and internal air pressure to seal it up. I would assume most people would take the time to actually fix with a proper patch or replace the tube when they get home. Not sure this is meant to be a permanent fix, and what size nails or holes are you expecting? Thanks for the watch!