If you want an easier way to tell which universe you are in, pay attention to stamps the beagle. In each universe he is a different type of dog. Beagle in the main timeline, Pomeranian in Zack’s, etc
@Rosso-km5jn it's sequel. The only thing plot hole is how did Sephiroth know about the paradox timeline. I believe something happened in world after advent children and sephiroth know the alternative reality. But Aerith is the one who prevent him from his plan to get a possible outcome that he become a god. That's why he said in rebirth he found Aerith who hide in the world where the people already accept and know their world already doomed.
Interesting how the host casually leaves out the part of when Cloud picks up Tifa in the reactor and moves her to a safe place, then confronts Sephiroth in a rage over hurting Tifa and killing his mother.
I don't think I understand your msg, why is that part important? there's a lot of stuff left out of this since it's just a summary like marlene isn't even here lol
@@bluejelly2270 this is the only vid on yt that has a full recap for everything ff7 related least this person couldve done like in the video was give a spoiler warning
Honestly this comment is so vague it can mean anything and not really a spoiler unless you're someone who takes everything at face value from the internet.
Couple of points I disagree. 1. When transforming the Ancient Temple back to its materia form, it will shrink. And a person who activated it from inside will die. The activation doesn't require a sacrifice. It's just no one can get out of the temple fast enough. 2 Cloud and Zack memories didn't mix. Cloud, after years being experimenting on with Zack, learned much about him He took Zack's personality to be his. But deep down he is still himself. He is just acting tough. Acting like Zack. And this leads to: 3. Tifa didn't discovered Cloud's true past. She KNEW. She was just afraid to ask Cloud about it. When Clould and Tifa fell into the life stream. Tifa was able to go into and reach Cloud's mind. Then Tifa talke (show) Cloud what really happened. This is just to help Cloud to get to term with what happened in the past. This builds alot on Tifa and Cloud's relationship.
No, Tifa did learn about Cloud's past. From her perspective Cloud was never there, hence why Sephiroth was able to use her to mentally break Cloud. In the life stream she learns that Cloud was in fact there and he's no Hojo creation
You forgot to mention that the two soliders who picked up genesis were deepground operatives called Nero and Weiss, if they were based on genesis or not, I very much doubt but yeah..that's why genesis was their "big brother" I don't think they were genesis clones, but something else, unless it's stated somewhere I do not have a clue about.
Nope he definitely is saying sethiroth, drove me crazy the whole time, maybe its just the accident?? Idk kinda annoying for. Be like someone sayin Darf Thader
Guys don’t over complicate it the trilogy is LITERALLY a sequel to advent children meaning that Aerith and Sephiroth know what’s going to happen in the future and by challenging fate multiple timelines were created so there’s still a chance to see Aerith back in the third game.
We killed the 3 brothers from advent children in the form of whispers in the first game. When you check their stats they are described as each of the 3 brothers.
Great video, A 10/10, really! It's just... ... all the Sethirops and YAffies are like hot needles in my brain. Still, great work! Makes me appreciate the Rebirth even more
The only thing I have to call out is calling Shinra a "nation". Despite all their power they aren't technically the government, of course it's just semantics when they have the whole world under their thumb.
Everyone has a story line they love which is not about selfish or keeping the original story intact, it is about we all expecting things good in these days. Now is no longer 1997 the value, the mindset and global environment totally different. people need more positive and faith for good.
Before Crisis has a lot of story and there is a playthrough you could have watched and gleaned a lot of info thus greatly expanding your section no Before Crisis. Each of the turks have a backstory with a little bit of research you could have gotten a little info about all of them and including Verdot who is the old boss of the Turks. Not putting down your research you have done but there is a lot more to unpack with that game which desperately needs a remake.
I think the parts playing as Zack, that should of been him experiencing the afterlife within the lifestream. Where everyone who dies wakes up and takes control of their sleeping counter parts. Mostly because i HATE multi-verse scenarios that removes any consequence to anything. when everything that could happen does happen, whats it matter? somewhere you lost, or won, or didn't even bother. pointless.
That said - i think a lot of people are misinterpreting the scenes where Zack ends up alive after the battle with all the shinra troops and the one where Aerith sees him walking with Cloud as literal when it is in fact metaphorical. Think about it. The whole story of OG FF7 and even in Remake Intergrade, Cloud remembers a big part of his story as if he were Zack himself. So in a way, is Zack not "carrying" Cloud in a sense, even if it is from beyond the grave? If you remember Crisis Core after defeating Angeal, he visits Zack and guides him through his journey in a similar way to Cloud in FF7/Remake minus the severe mako poisoning. And similarly, in telling Cloud that he is his "living legacy", is Zack not in a sense "born again" in Cloud? Metaphorical. Not literal. Anyways, thanks for coming to my Ted talk. What do you guys think? Am I hitting the nail on the head or missing huge since I haven't played Rebirth yet?
Okay so what is this 'the first soldier' animation before ever crisis' the first soldier? Searching it up I can only find the game and not these scenes.
Am I wrong or is Remake technically set after Advent children with Sephiroth trying to stop his fate from happening. This is why whispers are trying to fix fate.
I say this prior of watching this, I assume you added the FFX lore aswell, since both connected and the Shinra family is from Al-bhed origin that space travelled to Gaia or Gaya, the homeplanet of the Ancients. And that's why all Shinra folks are 👱 and tech savy.
Hi! I love the Final Fantasy VII franchise! My favorite games in the franchise are Final Fantasy VII Remake and Rebirth so far! I can't wait to see what Square Enix does with the final Part of the Final Fantasy VII trilogy too! It's going to be just as epic as Final Fantasy VII Remake and Rebirth are as well!💖❤
I am so close to earning the Platinum Trophy for Final Fantasy VII Rebirth! I only have a few of the Infuriating Curio Wall Trophies for Johnny's Seaside Inn left. All in all this has been an epic game and ive enjoyed it thoroughly a few mini games aside.
@leejones2113 well. With Dissidia being a thing, FF as a whole is a multiverse, so I don't see a problem with FF7 having its own little multiverse as well. Idk. I guess with comic books (books...not comic book movies) being a thing I loved as a kid and growing up, I am used to the idea of them.
You know all those extra games and movies and stuff are cool personally I never gave it much attention but as far as I'm concerned final fantasy 7 starts and ends with final fantasy 7. The last real piece of final fantasy 7 lore is that red 13 survived a long time found a mate and was not the last of his species. We know this because of the Cubs. As well the children you hear laughing at the end of final fantasy 7 are not humans they are the Cubs. It's easy to forget Red 13 speaks exactly like a human and so do all of his kind. Also considering the fact that the creator said the world of final fantasy 7 is based off of Japan after an apocalyptic event and considering you see words such as Texas in Tifa's bar at the very start of the game is my belief that final fantasy 7 does take place on Earth.
@@AnferneeMyers its a timeline mess, so new timeline created, original timeline(og storyline from og ffv) changed, certain characters fate changed, some characters are back(not dead), but at the same time, this timeline and other timeline can become intertwined, a whole of timeline mess, so confusing
@@qayyumchariff4357 at the moment, that feels a bit intentional to me. Understanding that there’s more story to be told (from the perspective of the original story or the new elements involving timelines) I never expected the game to end in a place of clarity, per se. I can certainly understand why that might be frustrating, though.
I don't think it will lead into it, and will be more like a sequel to the movie. He never said that the last part ends before AC They even relaunched Advent children now. Why not after P3(?)
I feel like we really get to see what really happened on that ending on part 3... for now it may seem convoluted to others especially the OG FANS... I mean its SQUARE ENIX... MULTIVERSE is in the name...
I’ve been playing FF7 rebirth and my God it is so good it’s so amazing. I feel like this is what they wanted the first game to be like but this one is amazing. I’m straight up addicted.Lol
oh no ... its getting similar to Kingdom hearts time table.... and when it finally ends we will have 100 games and a puzzle for story. (and pay 60-70-80$ for each one).
Someone help me understand how zach came back to midgard to find tifa, barret and aerith mortally injured. Like none of these events would have happened without cloud right? Cloud had to at the very least have been there to get aerith involved with avalanch. But he wasnt, he was with zach and has been unconscious. So whats up? How did we get here? This seems just so unnecessary. Do we really need time travel and alternate timelines? It judt makes everything so messy and there are always plot holes.
Been thinking about the same thing. All I can think of is that they failed in taking down Sephiroth at the end of Remake because they didn't have Cloud. As for Aerith being involved with Avalanche, maybe Aerith gave the flower to Tifa/Barret and Tifa/Barret fell into the church after the second reactor. Avalanche did exist before Cloud. One change in the timeline can ultimately change a whole timeline. Like those Nexus events in Loki. Zack surviving is that event that changed everything.
@@eba8938 I think it's just a poorly written plot device to insert Zach into the heart of a story he doesn't belong in. Like why not have Zach doing all the things cloud would have been doing with Zach's personal twist on it? Multiverse and alternate timeline stuff never and I mean never works. The only time it's ever worked well is in everything everywhere all at once.
Obviously they ended up raiding Shinra HQ and without Cloud they failed. As for why Aerith was there? Some unknown event lead to her willfully going to shinra HQ. You just don't want to understand
Probably didn’t think anything was wrong and carried one through the whole video before realizing so I get it I just thought I was going crazy for a second
It's not a timeline!?!?! They are worlds ...... That's it nothing more nothing less . Not once did the game ever mention timeline. Not to mention a timeline is just a graph 📉
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If you want an easier way to tell which universe you are in, pay attention to stamps the beagle. In each universe he is a different type of dog. Beagle in the main timeline, Pomeranian in Zack’s, etc
thank you
There’s 7 stamps in rebirth 7different. Stamps
@Rosso-km5jn wow…I think YOU may want to replay the game because you are incredibly wrong
@Rosso-km5jn in Rebirth Sephiroth literally says there are multiple worlds (time lines) and the reunion is him merging them all together
@Rosso-km5jn it's sequel. The only thing plot hole is how did Sephiroth know about the paradox timeline. I believe something happened in world after advent children and sephiroth know the alternative reality. But Aerith is the one who prevent him from his plan to get a possible outcome that he become a god. That's why he said in rebirth he found Aerith who hide in the world where the people already accept and know their world already doomed.
Interesting how the host casually leaves out the part of when Cloud picks up Tifa in the reactor and moves her to a safe place, then confronts Sephiroth in a rage over hurting Tifa and killing his mother.
I want too know why he didn’t add this into the video like whattttt????
It doesn’t really matter. Cloud still throws Sephiroth into the livestream regardless.
I don't think I understand your msg, why is that part important? there's a lot of stuff left out of this since it's just a summary like marlene isn't even here lol
Poor Cloud, he now has 4 personalities. Cloud, Zack, Sephiroth and now Aerith.
thx for spoiling
@@Sai-fx1vtyour on his whole life timeline what did you expect
@@bluejelly2270 this is the only vid on yt that has a full recap for everything ff7 related least this person couldve done like in the video was give a spoiler warning
@@Sai-fx1vthow could you not expect spoilers
Honestly this comment is so vague it can mean anything and not really a spoiler unless you're someone who takes everything at face value from the internet.
Couple of points I disagree.
1. When transforming the Ancient Temple back to its materia form, it will shrink. And a person who activated it from inside will die. The activation doesn't require a sacrifice. It's just no one can get out of the temple fast enough.
2 Cloud and Zack memories didn't mix. Cloud, after years being experimenting on with Zack, learned much about him He took Zack's personality to be his. But deep down he is still himself. He is just acting tough. Acting like Zack. And this leads to:
3. Tifa didn't discovered Cloud's true past. She KNEW. She was just afraid to ask Cloud about it. When Clould and Tifa fell into the life stream. Tifa was able to go into and reach Cloud's mind. Then Tifa talke (show) Cloud what really happened. This is just to help Cloud to get to term with what happened in the past. This builds alot on Tifa and Cloud's relationship.
No, Tifa did learn about Cloud's past. From her perspective Cloud was never there, hence why Sephiroth was able to use her to mentally break Cloud. In the life stream she learns that Cloud was in fact there and he's no Hojo creation
on point 3, tifa DOES learn about cloud there. she learns he was the other shinra grunt and that he kept his promise to her
They need to make a prequel that focuses on the first Cetra that fight Jenova.
I was thinking this!!! Would be so cool
They did, it's called "John Carpenter's The Thing"
@@Hugh_Jannis Love you for this cause it's so true
I honestly more interested in the lore of the civilization of Jenova's alien race
They should make a movie called Final Fantasy VII: Minerva vs Jenova
I came for the lore...stayed for the cat.
Animals are life ❤
You forgot to mention that the two soliders who picked up genesis were deepground operatives called Nero and Weiss, if they were based on genesis or not, I very much doubt but yeah..that's why genesis was their "big brother" I don't think they were genesis clones, but something else, unless it's stated somewhere I do not have a clue about.
Am I deaf or does he keep saying “Sethiroth” instead of Sephiroth?
I think he's saying "Sethiroph"
Sorry, I just really struggle with enunciating the ‘ph’ sounds! Not sure if it’s a slight lisp of mine or my accent, probably both!
No need to apologize! We all still consumed every bit of your content (except for Rebirth section).
I heard Sethiroph
Nope he definitely is saying sethiroth, drove me crazy the whole time, maybe its just the accident?? Idk kinda annoying for. Be like someone sayin Darf Thader
They completely did a Kingdom Hearts with the franchise and I'm here for it.
Glenn has MoM vibes as well 😂
This had everything that such compliCATed storytelling requires ;)
GameSpot, I can't get enough of your content, so I subscribed!
Guys don’t over complicate it the trilogy is LITERALLY a sequel to advent children meaning that Aerith and Sephiroth know what’s going to happen in the future and by challenging fate multiple timelines were created so there’s still a chance to see Aerith back in the third game.
No, you don't.
The ending of AC is happy tho.
@@lockh4rt97 nope, more like bittersweet.
@@GodOfAI_ yeah that’s the word!
We killed the 3 brothers from advent children in the form of whispers in the first game. When you check their stats they are described as each of the 3 brothers.
Here after the dunkey video to see the snowboarding beats dunkey missed.
Great video, A 10/10, really!
It's just... ... all the Sethirops and YAffies are like hot needles in my brain.
Still, great work! Makes me appreciate the Rebirth even more
This is a great video, thanks mate 🎉
Nice cat too :)
The only thing I have to call out is calling Shinra a "nation". Despite all their power they aren't technically the government, of course it's just semantics when they have the whole world under their thumb.
I wish I had the willpower to wait until all 3 parts of this game released before playing it all in one go!
Everyone has a story line they love which is not about selfish or keeping the original story intact, it is about we all expecting things good in these days. Now is no longer 1997 the value, the mindset and global environment totally different. people need more positive and faith for good.
totally agree, i think the multiverse concept of rebirth really bring the story of ff7 into a whole new level
ty for this, love ur videos they explain all the details i miss ^^
I always look forward to these timeline videos from Adam tbh
Very informative! Thanks for the spoiler warning for Rebirth! Much appreciated as I haven't played it yet! Great job!
Before Crisis has a lot of story and there is a playthrough you could have watched and gleaned a lot of info thus greatly expanding your section no Before Crisis. Each of the turks have a backstory with a little bit of research you could have gotten a little info about all of them and including Verdot who is the old boss of the Turks. Not putting down your research you have done but there is a lot more to unpack with that game which desperately needs a remake.
Great video!
Hojo is pretty much the main villain at this point
100000% yes
I was genuinely interested in your FF7 breakdown......but then the cat entered the chat. And suddenly, that's what all the video became about 😊.
I guess we will find the answers to our questions during the next game. Final Fantasy 7 Reunion
Naming wise Reunion is taken with the Crisis Core remake. They may use it again, but I doubt it.
In like 4 years
I think the parts playing as Zack, that should of been him experiencing the afterlife within the lifestream. Where everyone who dies wakes up and takes control of their sleeping counter parts. Mostly because i HATE multi-verse scenarios that removes any consequence to anything. when everything that could happen does happen, whats it matter? somewhere you lost, or won, or didn't even bother. pointless.
I love all of the FF Lore!
The entire multiverse was just as confusing as me as a 10 year old playing ff7 back in the day
Tbh this information did not go through my head but it was still enjoyable to watch
Love the content, but holy Sethiroph lol
I would love to see a new FF7 central lore game detailing the journey of Genesis after the events of Dirge of Cerberus
That said - i think a lot of people are misinterpreting the scenes where Zack ends up alive after the battle with all the shinra troops and the one where Aerith sees him walking with Cloud as literal when it is in fact metaphorical. Think about it. The whole story of OG FF7 and even in Remake Intergrade, Cloud remembers a big part of his story as if he were Zack himself. So in a way, is Zack not "carrying" Cloud in a sense, even if it is from beyond the grave? If you remember Crisis Core after defeating Angeal, he visits Zack and guides him through his journey in a similar way to Cloud in FF7/Remake minus the severe mako poisoning. And similarly, in telling Cloud that he is his "living legacy", is Zack not in a sense "born again" in Cloud? Metaphorical. Not literal. Anyways, thanks for coming to my Ted talk. What do you guys think? Am I hitting the nail on the head or missing huge since I haven't played Rebirth yet?
Okay so what is this 'the first soldier' animation before ever crisis' the first soldier? Searching it up I can only find the game and not these scenes.
Crazy how ffvii can be used as an allegory for the military industrial complex lol 👀
All that's missing is Eisenhower's speech.
30:50 - That is some cute kitty 🐈
Am I wrong or is Remake technically set after Advent children with Sephiroth trying to stop his fate from happening. This is why whispers are trying to fix fate.
@Rosso-km5jn i am right.
@Rosso-km5jn then explain how Sephiroth knows everything and why his entire motivation is to prevent it from happening.
@Rosso-km5jn Could be a sequel were Sephiroth travels back in time to change his fate ? So it would be both...
16:44 i am crying 😭😭
I say this prior of watching this, I assume you added the FFX lore aswell, since both connected and the Shinra family is from Al-bhed origin that space travelled to Gaia or Gaya, the homeplanet of the Ancients. And that's why all Shinra folks are 👱 and tech savy.
All my homies knows that all of this was Lucias fault
The first image at the start of the video is wrong. The remake branch happens after dirge of cerberus and not after crisis core in the timeline
0:45 " that's a hyper simplification of it" ooh yes ....
Hi!
I love the Final Fantasy VII franchise! My favorite games in the franchise are Final Fantasy VII Remake and Rebirth so far! I can't wait to see what Square Enix does with the final Part of the Final Fantasy VII trilogy too! It's going to be just as epic as Final Fantasy VII Remake and Rebirth are as well!💖❤
I am so close to earning the Platinum Trophy for Final Fantasy VII Rebirth! I only have a few of the Infuriating Curio Wall Trophies for Johnny's Seaside Inn left. All in all this has been an epic game and ive enjoyed it thoroughly a few mini games aside.
Sounds like Angeal might come back as a good guy in remake pt 3? Interesting
The cat is the best part of the video
This was really good. Thanks
By the end of this video I actually thought his name was Sethiroph 😭😂
Sethiroph
He’s saying it wrong on purpose to push comment engagement. Downvote every GameSpot video you ever see.
@@SpitFireX85 why so serious bro, its just a lore video
@@SpitFireX85I'd rather downvote YOUR comments 😂
YOU ARE AWESOME! ❤❤❤
What about his appearance in Kingdom Hearts? :P
They turned ff7 into a Disney/Marvel mcu multiverse type game. Loved everything else about it.
Multiverses have been a thing a lot longer than the MCU. Just MCU made it popular.
@Samsquanch1994 but they didn't have to turn ff7 into one.
@leejones2113 well. With Dissidia being a thing, FF as a whole is a multiverse, so I don't see a problem with FF7 having its own little multiverse as well. Idk. I guess with comic books (books...not comic book movies) being a thing I loved as a kid and growing up, I am used to the idea of them.
You know all those extra games and movies and stuff are cool personally I never gave it much attention but as far as I'm concerned final fantasy 7 starts and ends with final fantasy 7. The last real piece of final fantasy 7 lore is that red 13 survived a long time found a mate and was not the last of his species. We know this because of the Cubs. As well the children you hear laughing at the end of final fantasy 7 are not humans they are the Cubs. It's easy to forget Red 13 speaks exactly like a human and so do all of his kind. Also considering the fact that the creator said the world of final fantasy 7 is based off of Japan after an apocalyptic event and considering you see words such as Texas in Tifa's bar at the very start of the game is my belief that final fantasy 7 does take place on Earth.
As a FFX fan, I feel sad that it didn't get Prequels and movies like ff7.
My next potential favorite game would have been FF15 BUT disappointed 😔
Rebirth just made the story more complicated and confusing, and I don't know how I feel about it.. Certainly not amused by how the writing goes..
Can you go into detail about this?
@@AnferneeMyers its a timeline mess, so new timeline created, original timeline(og storyline from og ffv) changed, certain characters fate changed, some characters are back(not dead), but at the same time, this timeline and other timeline can become intertwined, a whole of timeline mess, so confusing
@@qayyumchariff4357 at the moment, that feels a bit intentional to me. Understanding that there’s more story to be told (from the perspective of the original story or the new elements involving timelines) I never expected the game to end in a place of clarity, per se. I can certainly understand why that might be frustrating, though.
Anyone else realize he is saying sethiroth
Can't unhear it now
Are there spoilers for Rebirth here?
I've played the original game five times so none of the spoilers mean nothing to me.
Mack-o energy? Am I the only one who calls it Make-o? Mack-o sounds like nails on a chalkboard to me.
yes you are. It's a Japanese game so if they wanted co call it "make-o" they'd say "Meiko"
9 minutes in and I am already lost
“Sethiroth”
Yoshinori Kitase confirmed that the remake trilogy will lead into Advent Children
Can you please provide a source? I can't find it, I've tried Googling. It'd be a big help.
I don't think it will lead into it, and will be more like a sequel to the movie. He never said that the last part ends before AC
They even relaunched Advent children now. Why not after P3(?)
I mean they relaunched AC even before part 2 came out (at least here in Japan, idk if they released it elsewhere)
@@jhin_gg
He also confirmed 7 and 10 are the same world which every creative, including the scenario writer, has said he’s wrong on
Your cat is beautiful :)
who is Sethiroph ( or Sethiroth for that matter) seriously nobody watched this before releasing ?
I thought it was just me, he is definitely saying Sethiroth right?
He struggles with the sound. Bro can't help it.
@@heavenlyking8386is it the same excuse for “Yaffie” as well?
Csit Sith: Ooooo. Sethiroph, you say?
I feel like we really get to see what really happened on that ending on part 3... for now it may seem convoluted to others especially the OG FANS... I mean its SQUARE ENIX... MULTIVERSE is in the name...
still confused
Sep not Set hir oth. Sephiroth .. Lu cre cia .Lucrecia .good video other size. you are Stewie with cool whip XD
He’s saying it wrong on purpose to push comment engagement. Downvote every GameSpot video you ever see.
3:13 Cait Sith!
CC
OG
AC
DOC
7R Trilogy
there more than one movie? I think
Just wait until they throw Tidus into the game, by that time you can be ready for some asperin :P
That was an unusual pronunciation of "archipelago".
I’ve been playing FF7 rebirth and my God it is so good it’s so amazing. I feel like this is what they wanted the first game to be like but this one is amazing. I’m straight up addicted.Lol
I’ll just stick to the original. And just not consider the Remake’s story.
Makes the story less complicated.
Dude. This video is fantastic. But, the way you pronounce Sephiroth is taking me out of the moment every time you say it.
Are these available for PS5? I know Rebirth, Remake, Crisis is.
the original ff7 is, i don’t think any of the others are
I love you now because of your CAT! hehe
zack got it hard
hi cat 31:00
Advent children is after FF7 remake. Trust me hahaha
Does anyone know what happened to Aerith's twin sister, Aeris, from the OG FF7?
Twins sister? When ? How? I think you confuse with someone else...
That was a translation error in the original game numbskull.
@@Enigma1788 I'll take it you don't know what Aeris?
oh no ... its getting similar to Kingdom hearts time table.... and when it finally ends we will have 100 games and a puzzle for story. (and pay 60-70-80$ for each one).
this is my attempt at trying to understand the mariana trench deep lore of ff7 🤕
It’s so distracting to hear him say Sephiroth wrong. Is it like an inside joke? Great video though
Aerith Gainsborough Fate is a cannon event
Nah
Sethiroph…
Teetha?
Tita
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Someone help me understand how zach came back to midgard to find tifa, barret and aerith mortally injured. Like none of these events would have happened without cloud right? Cloud had to at the very least have been there to get aerith involved with avalanch. But he wasnt, he was with zach and has been unconscious. So whats up? How did we get here? This seems just so unnecessary. Do we really need time travel and alternate timelines? It judt makes everything so messy and there are always plot holes.
Been thinking about the same thing. All I can think of is that they failed in taking down Sephiroth at the end of Remake because they didn't have Cloud. As for Aerith being involved with Avalanche, maybe Aerith gave the flower to Tifa/Barret and Tifa/Barret fell into the church after the second reactor. Avalanche did exist before Cloud. One change in the timeline can ultimately change a whole timeline. Like those Nexus events in Loki. Zack surviving is that event that changed everything.
@@eba8938 I think it's just a poorly written plot device to insert Zach into the heart of a story he doesn't belong in. Like why not have Zach doing all the things cloud would have been doing with Zach's personal twist on it? Multiverse and alternate timeline stuff never and I mean never works. The only time it's ever worked well is in everything everywhere all at once.
Obviously they ended up raiding Shinra HQ and without Cloud they failed. As for why Aerith was there? Some unknown event lead to her willfully going to shinra HQ. You just don't want to understand
@@XxFarrinxXv2that’s just like, your opinion, man.
You forget to a smile
Can’t wait for the next ff7 game so it can mess with our brains even more
Probably didn’t think anything was wrong and carried one through the whole video before realizing so I get it I just thought I was going crazy for a second
Soon. Nothing has changed and all this crazniss means nothing. Cool
Yuffy is hot
"Yuffie" duππbf√¢k
Fbi?
R3 lol, like the third remake isn't going to be called Reunion ffs
Vampire emo LOL
arc-a-pa-lego.
Kefka > Sephiroth
It's not a timeline!?!?! They are worlds ...... That's it nothing more nothing less . Not once did the game ever mention timeline. Not to mention a timeline is just a graph 📉
I'm sorry, did you just say Final Fantasy BATTLE ROYALE?
Exactly my thoughts.. and in 2021 too 😭 where was this announced??
Bro forgot to include final fantasy 10 and 10-2
Huh?
@@RexVonTerror it's a theory, don't pay him any mind
01:10
Why do you keep saying sethiroth
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