Do I Need A Survey To Build A House?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.ย. 2024
- When is a good time to get a survey? Do I even need a survey to build a house?
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State requirements for monumentation vary. California is very stringent and requires the filing of a record of survey which alone may cost thousands of dollars. Unfortunately land values being so high in many places in CA increases the liability and the cost of living is so high companies must charge high fees to pay professionals. If the surveyor is staking out your houses location, setbacks, zoning, easements, flood plain, your building footprint may all need to be considered and God help us if it's in the wrong spot.
I'm on 50 acres and have a 50ft setback for any buildings. I'm so far inside my property lines that a new survey would be of little value. My residence is about 300ft from my property lines. My building dept just wants a simple plot plan, not a survey. I got a copy of the subdivision plat at closing and my monuments are all present.
I also staked an arbitrary datum near my meter pole and used my laser to do rise and fall tables for where my foundations will go that my structural engineer and excavator are using for the foundation plan. I saved about $3000 figuring out how to do a few simple tasks.
I would never do this on a small city lot though, I can see how you could get in huge trouble being off a foot or even a few inches.
You are a true transcendentalist, you preserve self-reliance nicely. Keep it up.
Keith, I really like your videos and Philosophy. Will consider you to build my house :). Moving in 2 years to your neck of the woods. Just closed on an empty Lot in Bloomington Ranch. Best, Joe
That's a great area. I love Bloomington Ranches. I will be doing a video of a home I just completed in that area tomorrow morning. Look for a post on it soon.
@@HowToBuildYourOwnHome sounds good. My lot’s on Nashua. I’ll probably drive up there in the next week or two (from LA).
Just realize that if you are going to build a house in the US today everyone will have their hand so deep in your pocket you likely will never be able to even break ground. I have a 3 acre parcel I’m trying to build on and I have 4 boundary pins located from a survey in 2005. The house pad is smack dab in the middle of the property and I have to hire a survey company $1800 to come locate another ingress egress easement because it is listed on the legal description. It in no way has anything to do with the home location and will in no way interfere yet here I am forking over another 1800 bucks for nothing. Yavapai county in Arizona is not kind to people trying to build themselves a house
Agreed. Surveyors are the most costly for the least value. That's just my experience, and I hate saying that about a profession.
He man I live in Tonopah just bought an acre with a shared well. The well has no electricity yet. But to start the build what is the very first thing I need to do to start the build
@@349guillermo I’m not sure how extreme Tonopah will be with permitting. Do you have the property pins located at the corners? You may need a geotechnical report for foundation design. If you need a septic I would start there. Sometimes a standard system isn’t allowed and alternative systems can cost 40-60k which will definitely dictate where you build.
A little update. I now have to pay 4800 dollars for a topo survey for a grading plan. These people are criminal
@@eljefe4473 holy fuck! I was thinking maybe 1500 2500 max! Buy damn 4800!?!?!
As a professionally licensed Land Surveyor and owner of a Civil Engineering and Land Surveying firm (residing in the state you operate) I am amazed at the comment "waste of money" with regard to knowing the location on the ground of the largest investment that most homeowners will make in their lifetime. Having worked through numerous boundary disputes along with being deposed and testifying in court, staying within the boundary of your property by way of purchasing a boundary survey is one of the smartest things you can do prior to construction. Once you build on another individuals property or outside your building envelope everything becomes very astronomically expensive and the price of the survey as a percentage of the over all project is a mere drop in the bucket (typically less than 0.2% in your area).
I think you misunderstood. He said “it’s a waste of money if you don’t have it STAKED”
Unfortunately I did understand both of his references (first at 4:56 and the other at 6:06) neither of which discussed staking but mentioned "waste of money"- the first of which closed his commentary about building on a parcel/lot where you believe the boundary/lot lines are 50-70 away from the structure. The reality is there are a number of law suits based on boundary by acquiescence or adverse possession where the boundary has been determined to be off by more than those distances. While rare they happen especially in rural areas where little to no surveying has occurred for a number of years and fences of convenience have been constructed and misconstrued to be boundary lines. Also getting property owners together to agree upon a boundary line does not create it at that location unless it is being disputed and then surveyed with proper documentation prepared and then a boundary line agreement prepared, signed, recorded at the county recorders office. Standard residential subdivision lots are required to have all of the property corners set during the construction phase prior to the recording of the plat and typically will not have boundary conflicts unless the corners have been removed/moved during that process. Again, the cost of a survey is pennies on the dollar relative to what it costs when building a home in a very expensive locality (such as being depicted in the video) and to place a structure in the wrong location only creates very expensive headaches for all parties affected.
I understand your professional background. And I understand the need for staking more than anything. However, I have had students pay for a survey but not get it staked properly and this does not help. I have a student now who paid $7,000 for a survey for a simple city lot not, more than 1/3 of an acre, and the surveyor did not stake it. The property owner had to pay another $700 to get it staked. Now that was a huge cost and completely unnecessary. On the video above I paid over $1,500 to have a surveyor stake a lot that took not more than thirty minutes to do, and this was a re-staking of the lot from a previous survey, but they still charged me that. The "waste of money" comment is driven by price gouging, and when such costs hit you with no real material into the building of the home, it's hard to swallow.
@@HowToBuildYourOwnHome While it is difficult for me to comment on the actions of another licensed professional in another state and their standards of conduct within their respective profession relative to a land survey. Here and in other states that I have operated we as licensed land surveyors are required to set boundary/lot corners anytime we represent/depict a boundary/lot line. In addition (by law/state statue) we are required to prepare a drawing depicting the boundary/lot lines and describe how we determined the boundary and have it recorded at the county surveyors/recorders office. Thus it should have been less expensive for you to go to the original surveyor who prepared the subdivision plat and recorded it not duplicating the work with another surveyor. I suspect timing may have been an issue however, your surveyor had to take on all of the liability (as if he were the original surveyor) including the preparation of an plat along with having it recorded while the original surveyor would have only had to send the field crew out and set the corners again. I would make sure that you receive a survey plat (which can be passed along to the owners) from your surveyor as part of the original fee in that it is required by state law. Whenever I am faced with preparing a proposal for a subdivision lot or re-setting boundary corners of any kind, I will always tell the client that it should be less expensive to contact the surveyor who did the original survey.
@@sjffff I need to hire you for all my jobs from now on.
DONT GET A SURVEY
Correct, not always needed
@@HowToBuildYourOwnHome haha my bad for the vague duhh comment lol i left that there so when I come back and take notes on new videos i can already see that I watched it and left a comment cause TH-cam doesn’t let me know which ones ive watched and haven’t watched thanks though…and I figured it would help your algorithm…. Thanks look out for me one day buying your third tier program…ive been flipping houses for to long and its time stopped cleaning after the sloppy seconds of builders before me. I’m looking forward to giving my tenants comfortable central Florida solar homes that run off little to no utilities!
I’m looking to combine the owner builder world with the FHA Fourplex model or maybe the regular fourplex model once i start having enough funds. Any thoughts on or constructive criticism on that plan… I’m somewhat new to this world.
@@tylersierra25 Many states even California allow owner builders to build a fourplex. It's really a funding thing more than anything. If you can secure the funds, it can be done. I would however look to convert a single family home into a double rental, one above and one below. This is more within the reach of many and if smart no permit should be required.