Canada should just dissolve their illigitimate nightmare and admit usa was right so we can combine the land and gave more than russia who rn has the most.
-"Spanish Companies": Hey! you are an engineer and you have amazing skills! what about if I pay you minimum salary and make you work underpaid overtime? :) -"US companies": Hey! come here and we will pay you an actual decent salary!. -"Spanish Companies": Why can't we find workers anymore??
Smart people (who get paid accordingly) understand basic algebra: US insurance cost is like the function y=6000 (Actual avg personal spend is $5400) Meanwhile the added taxes of living in the Europe is like y=0.075x where x is your income (7.5% is probably a low estimate too) Now kids, what happens at the point of intersection? And it's not like 80k is asking for much out of a productive individual.
It's not theft. Us European take our brightest for granted instead of acknowledging their contribution to society. Americans on the other hand value them. This has been going in for the last two centuries.
@@Theaverageazn247 Taxes aren't that different. If anything, ever so slightly higher. But in EU countries, tax money actually gets spent efficiently and does what it intends to. In the US, it gets eaten up by lobbyists/special interests and contractors that overcharge the government because they can. I don't disagree with the original commenter, but to start criticizing *fiscal policies* of European countries is ridiculous, considering how much better off they are than we are.
I can just say from my own perspective in chemical engineering and having moved countries - salary UK 90k USD (equivalent), USA 250k USD. I like the UK and all but let's be honest and say that was a no brainer.
@@mufradr The pay is higher, but social security is lower. And if you compare the UK to a third world nation, you really don't have the first idea what a third world nation actually looks like.
Yeah, people see it as this: Retire at 55 (Just an example age) but until then live worse but still good6 or Retire at 65 (also an example age) but you live a bit better people see it as; well, if I retire 10 years earlier, wouldn't that extra 10 years be better than a scattered 1 extra year of vacation? Europe has better welfare and more vacation days then the US, but, by the amount of time you have without needing to work, the US wins in the end, because you retire earlier cause you have the same amount of money earlier
I always say this... I make probably 50 thousand dollars a year more than a comparable person in western Europe with the same job. My health insurance has a 5k out of pocket maximum. There's no way that you're getting 45k in other social benefits in europe... and when I retire, my social security will be more than someone in Europe would get
I would argue that in some sense, they weren't the ones to throw it away. A large part of the reason WW1 happened was because the other nations felt like Germany was becoming too powerful by itself, a new hegemony. They left Germany in heavy debt in its aftermath so that Germany wouldn't be able to do that again. Ironically, it just ended up making the US hegemony.
@@ericlee6145 better to have a bully a continent away who can't tell your country apart from the next, than a bully who lives just up the road and knows you well.
@@ericlee6145WW2 Germany happened because of WW1 Germany. But post-war they chose less of the “working” part and more of the “bleeding socialist” part after American left-leaning influence, which is heavy institutionally, but practically scorned outside them culturally and policy-wise in the US. National Socialists had blunt right-wingers with a concept of corporatized social welfare. You get stuff when company does good.
@@nobilesnovushomo58How can the national socialists be right winger in the traditional sense but also support corporatist welfare? That makes no sense and just means the national socialists were socialists
I am a scientist myself. Coming from a small European country. I'm developing new cancer treatments. In my home country the expected salary in my position is $1500-2000 net per month and an average apartment in the capital city costs >20x average yearly salary. This means that I would never be able to own a home. And I don't want to start a family while renting and moving around every year or so. So, I said fuck it and I went to the US. In the US I get paid about $8300 net per month and I just bought my first 2 bed apartment without any issues at all. And even after paying all expenses each month I am still left with almost double the net salary that I'd make at home... So, yeah, as much as I'd love to live and do my research in my home country (honestly, there are many things about the US that I don't like), it just makes no sense.
In my country a researcher of cancer was not even paid, he moved to the US with his wife and now works at Harvard. No, my country is not developing but it is in the G7 (Italy)
@@irisobobo that is awesome glad to hear this same here im a nurse i was so happy to be able to afford a car i was elated when i touched the stirring wheels i cried, because i was in college i always wanted to own a car and my parents wouldnt buy me one cause its expensive, i hated riding the jeepney or bus in the philippines i hated having to carry all the heavy things in my hand books grocery and being crammed up inside the public transport
@danielhalachev4714mental gymnastics. Nobody has been forced to move. It’s a huge economic decision that they have made for themselves and have been utilized by America. Both the U. S and the migrant benefit from the exchange. It’s the country they leave from that must figure out the best course of action for themselves to prosper and attain people. That’s global market policy.
When woman enter the work place, man have to share their wage to them, because woman productivity is less then 10 percent of the man while they need to be paid the same
It's not treatment; US doesn't treat people 'better'. It is taxes and regulations. Europeans want the solution to be that they are not green enough, or egalitarian enough, or some other bs that fits their world view. But that is the root of the problem.
@@Nordzumuwhat he means is not acting like California, taking talented productive individuals for granted, and fleecing them for tax money while providing relatively little to them in return.
Yep. The crazy thing is that the brightest minds in Canada are always going to be enticed to go work in the US. They benefit from our equitable university system lol
My relatives in the medical field left Canada for the US. I with my IQ of 132 was tempted to move to the US but I lost interest in visiting other countries.
Canadians have been migrating to the US for opportunities for more than 200 years. It's been a thing since America broke off of England. You can even read references to it in stories like Anne of Green Gables - which takes place in Canada. And the bright kids from her school mostly moved to the US.
Why should someone accept less money, pay exorbitant taxes and pay more for everything if he doesn't have to? For top professionals, remaining in Canada means being another average worker. Those social programs in Canada and Europe are irrelevant: it would cost less to pay for those services and you will most likely never need most of them anyway. All these complainers criticize professionals for leaving, but they don't seem to have a problem with athletes or celebrities who leave for better opportunities.
I am a British physician who just immigrated to America. It was a difficult decision to leave behind my family and friends in the UK but for me it’s worth it because the salaries and career opportunities in the USA are so much better than the UK. American salaries for doctors are literally 5x higher than the UK and working conditions aren’t as miserable as the UKs National Health Service I intend to do everything I can to contribute to the USA as a doctor and with my medical research. The UK didn’t value my skills, my knowledge or experience so I’m glad I’ll be moving to a country that is. I don’t plan to come back to the UK so I’ll put down roots here and hopefully have a family here too. God bless America 🇺🇸
“Didn’t value you you” come on bro just say it like it is. One paid you more, you did it for the money that’s it. Don’t act like the USA cares more about you, just because they pay better.
The U.S. pays STEM professionals what they deserve to be paid…they’re valued and valuable…im a nurse in the U.S. with dual citizenship…I make more in the U.S. by far as a specialist nurse and I’m also respected as a professional. In Germany 🇩🇪 the health minister, she said “anyone can be a nurse…”. In the U.S. it’s a profession and requires a degree and paid properly. The same is true for many other fields in Europe, they give lip service to these fields but don’t treat them or pay them as though they do respect them. It’s not “stealing” anyone. It’s showing them that they matter professionally.
Since when did nursing become a STEM field? She's right, anyone can be a nurse. Things like specialist nurse, NP or the countless other acronym titles they give to nurses as well as prescription rights without going through medical school or adequate training are a complete non-solution invented by corrupt politicians to address physician shortages.
@@marksmadhousemetaphysicalm2938 agree! When i first touched the steering wheel of my vehicle i cried i could not believe i can afford a car 😂 my college classmates that are nurses in europe are far waaaay behind me they couldnt save anything from their salaries and no disposable income… i have so much disposable income i just bought an hermes bag 2 months ago not to brag but i am very thankful for this country for giving me this opportunity… and i will do my best to serve american interest..i pledge my loyalty to the USA
They also can pay more, in some countries. In others that can't - they can pay at least enough to live comfortably. But they don't. That's the difference.
@@youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan6687 Not in general thought. its just the big companies who are the biggest in the world, like nasa, space x etc. You can't access stuff like that anywhere else. But general stuff its quite different, I'd rather work a oil platform in norway compared to us for example, US is great if you are in a great position in life but sucks if you are not.
Europeans, Indians and Chinese make fun of Americans and boast about their country online, but given the chance they will be the first one to board the plane to US.
Legal immigration laws are easy and open only to other rich europeon countries. You could be a highly educated middle class citizen of an 'undesirable' nation and have more trouble getting to the US than some drug dealing teenager in sweden. Having a shitty passport wiol ruin your life. Being born in africa (even south Africa, south and central asia or eastern europe (think Georgia, not poland), really limits places you can visit as a tourist and as an job seeker. Its partly about race but its not only about race, even japanese and south koreans have a better chance for immigration to the US than the above countries. The exception is if you have a muslim name or have brown (think dark skinned arab) skin. The new dutch prime minister and the some recent laws that France has pushed out recently really isn't great news for the state of islamophobia in the western world.
@@jaylenblount128 I could only find reliable unbiased info for 2016, but according to official immigration statistics, only 13% were refugees and asylum seekers. Some applied for asylum before arriving, some applied after. There might have been a few 'fake' refugees from India or whatever, but most were refugees from Haiti and Venezuela and such. Anyone who immigrated the normal way (>80%) would have to pay pretty large amounts of money for registration, and would also have been vetted thoroughly. Only some Europeans have a high success rate for applications. The only people who are uneducated in this group would be students and relatives.
Then why so many Latin Americans? All the states near the Mexican border consider Spanish and English equal now, doesn't sound like assimilation to me. @@trichi827
I go to a very small university but still, the amount of students from all over the world really astonishes me considering we have less than 1k students. There’s people from east asia, South Asia, Africa, Latin America and all over Europe. Multiple Germans, multiple Brits, multiple South Africans, and Argentinians, etc.
@@Mmjk_12 No actually. Exchange students are part of a program that typically only last a few months and is mostly done through high school.. These are international students who are doing their entire college education at this university and are not doing it through some program.
The academic ecosystem in China is bad. You only see those that have imminent benefits especially money get the continuation. There is almost no benefit in staying in China if you want to do theories.
@@multigameswithryan9215This is slowly being changed... Chinese universities are getting way better at things like military research and development and teaching subjects like aerospace engineering and students competing to make technologies for the people's liberation army rocket force of China
You got the Bureaucreacy fact wrong... the EU adds additional 60k bureaucrats ontop of the already existing ones in each country... Germany for example has 1,9 million bureaucrats for 84 million people alone
Yeah totally absurd number, not sure how they missed that one lol. I’m sure the EU + national governments have many multiples the bureaucrats. Also the “reverse brain drain” numbers probably need a fact check. Many Americans retire in Europe, so they’re not actually working there (or not very much).
nope if you have a phd, or a skill that is very in high demand you cut to the front of the line. I was working in cybersecurity in Japan as a white hacker, and was offered 3 amazing job offers ranging from 175k - 270k dollars plus benefits, compared to my job in Japan only 90k. I took an offer and I got my work pass over the weekend upon landing in the US, and after a month I was a US resident. It's been 3 years now, and I'm in the process of getting citizenship. All paid for my company.
There is a clear difference between skilled workers whose expertise are in high demand everywhere and unskilled workers. Don’t act like you don’t know the difference, you can’t be that stupid.
U forgot about immigration after Russian revolution in 1917-1922. All writers went to Europe. While physics immigrated to the USA. Easiest example is Sicorsky, who made first controllable helicopter(wich was used in WW2 on Pacific). Later his company will create Blackhawk
Earlier still, France rid itself of its Hugenot elites who found so much success in, among others, the UK, a French-sounding surname is a very likely indicator of wealth and status to this day there.
This is so true, my friend's uncle goes to university in America for higher education. He is very smart of course and the best place for higher education is in the US
My Bavarian PhD professor said six years ago :There are so few graduates in physics and chemistry in the US because the courses are prohibitively expensise and people can make fortunes in parasitic jobs in finance and Wall Street. We, the German tax payers, give an excellent education for free to too many scientists, which end up in the US lacking them
I’m sure your Bavarian professor has the sense to know that if the kid is already paying for college anyway (STEM students tend to get scholarships btw), then they’re not going to *not* study the thing they went to college for. This is especially true for “nerds” who have always known that they wanted to study physics or chemistry. Most students don’t study physics or chemistry for the same reason that most are not math majors: those are not easy courses of study, and the vast majority know that it is not for them from before they even leave high school. More find out later on in college that it’s not for them, so they switch majors. Also, people getting physics or chemistry degrees in undergrad are expected to continue on for their PhDs if they hope to find meaningful work in their fields. Again, few are interested in this to begin with. Additionally, a lot of the most lucrative “parasitic” careers on Wall Street are the very ones where people are specifically recruited from universities for their exceptional mathematical talent. If a student performs well in a premier mathematical competition like the Putnam or gains some other kind of recognition, or a referral, or a recommendation from a respected math or physics professor, then they’ll likely be on the radars of math departments across the country in case they apply to join a PhD program, but they’ll also likely be recruited by industry groups with very deep pockets - especially those on Wall Street. Your professor has clearly never heard of a hedge fund or the kind of money they throw at the very brightest math and physics students straight out of undergrad. This is actually something that always has some decently strong, though not unusually talented, students at top universities seriously considering math and physics degrees, though most ultimately stay away due to the difficulty. This has been going on for over 15 years, since every financial or career journal started regularly writing about the “quants” and other mathematical researchers who have taken over Wall Street. So if someone had the interest and the ability to properly study physics and do well, then that might also be the thing that maximizes their earning potential. People this bright also, generally don’t pay anything for college because, again, scholarships tend to be especially generous for this cohort.
Also ... going abroad is not a lightweight decision, there is so much more than money factoring in on this decision.. otherwise Germans would all go to Switzerland.. we all know that there is a natural threshold holding this up. Probably easier for Germans to go to the USA than Switzerland, funny but true.
In India, you are treated like a slave at work (even if you are paid in the Top 3%), the constant extreme competition, bullshit & corruption makes it inhospitable for decent std. of living. Hence, people move to the US. Minus the Wokeness, Drugs & Gun violence, US is a pretty good place for skilled immigrants.
Indians literally practice high level caste system in the US (even after several generations of living there), they have zero rights to complain about wokeness.
Don’t live in high crime areas. While the US homicide rate is high, it paints an incorrect picture that violence is widespread across the nation. The reality is that only specific areas suffer from that high homicide rate, and that many parts of the US have equal or less than the homicide rates of other European Countries. This is true with gun crime as well.
French artisans and engineers left first to surrounding countries and then to America. The Irish exported millions of people from 1820-1930. Talent moves always and for different reasons but usually to live freely.
If Mexico hadn't been so focused on fucking itself up over the last 500 years, North America would be a scene of eternal rivalry, not unlike that in Europe between France and the UK.
I have EU citizenship but only work for US Fortune500 companies with offices in Europe. I used to work for a European company for 1 year - never again. My past and current US employers (FAANG, other big tech) are much more generous and offer better resources, benefits, and perks + you get to work with top talent every day. In addition, I was able to attend grad school in the U.S. which was fully funded by my US alma mater. So the U.S. paid for my education in a way and I am happy to provide my skills and help to advance my current employer’s business activities in Europe.
@@baljeetpatel1745 you love the USA because you’re doing well and came perhaps from a country of lesser opportunity but I can tell you that I have young adults that have a college degree and are struggling to buy a house and are underpaid and under insured with the astronomical cost of healthcare and they are third generation “Americans” although due to their ethnicity will never be treated as those of European descent. When shit hits the fan as more euro-Americans get displaced in the workplace and lose the well paying jobs they used to have, watch out Mr. Immigrant because you’re nothing but another brown person they will blame their declining standard of living on as they never will blame their own (white people) for offshoring the good jobs overseas for higher profits. Then tell me if you love Amerikkka then….😉
@@nuno_alex505 I don’t know if you’re referring to me but I’m a U.S. citizen and Navy veteran. I lived in California for 43 years and raised 4 children with my wife and all of them are University graduates. One of my daughters is a university professor at an Ivy League university and another one has a Master’s in nursing and is a supervisor in a Hospital in Berkeley California. I am retired in the Caribbean but lived most of my life in California and know firsthand how hard it can be making a living in the USA. I been a commercial union painter, a union organizer, a Labor Representative as well as a Planning Commissioner for the City of Oakland in California. Bottom line there are other countries that do a better job providing decent paying jobs, healthcare and a decent education for working people (Sweden, Norway 🇳🇴 Finland 🇫🇮 and Denmark 🇩🇰 come to mind as well as Australia 🇦🇺 and New Zealand 🇳🇿). The U.S. is no doubt the best country for rich people but NOT for working class families.
It's the old wealth vs new wealth. Poor countries cannot compete on salaries because they don't have the wealth, which leads to brain drain, which ensures no new wealth is created in that country.
8:15 I'm a US-EU dual citizen. If you can find me one place in Europe that lets me get as much disposable income as in the US, let me know ASAP. Until then I have no choice but to keep working in the US.
This should be realize and learnt by developing country like my country Indonesia, the govrt literally corrupt and they didn't care about the nation's future. Sadly i have plan to go to Australia by the end of this year to get better quality life, not because i hate my country. I do love Indonesia but i can't help. The system already suck, corrupt, full of nepotism, etc.
Glad someone is paying attention. No one on here are being objective as there is no doubt that if you’re making a good to great salary in the US then of course you’re happy. The fact remains that of all the Industrialized nations the U.S. is the most unequal and therefore you have higher rates of crime, homelessness, drug abused and racism as well. I lived in California for 43 years and I am now retired. I served a three (3) year apprenticeship as a commercial painter in the Union and then performed for 24 years in the Industry with union wages and benefits. In my late 40’s I took labor studies courses in my local community college at night while I worked during the day to help raise 4 children with my wife. I then got hired by the union as an organizer and then as a labor Representative and my salary almost doubled but I was lucky because of workers sacrifice and struggles before me, specially during the depression years of the 30’s. My point is that unions are almost nonexistent in the U.S. and most workers earn a little more than the minimum wage thereby becoming homeless as they cannot afford to pay rent in most urban areas like Los Angeles, San Francisco , San Jose and San Diego as well as many other cities in California. Higher Education is very expensive in the U.S. so many students are in debt before they even graduate and get a job. In Denmark 🇩🇰 a fast food worker at McDonalds makes around $23 per hour and his taxes help pay for his or hers healthcare plus he gets a pension. In the USA you make minimum wage( $7.69 per hour and no benefits). So if you are selfish and don’t care that others have a hard time surviving then the U.S. is the place for you but there is a price to pay with skyrocketing crime, mass shootings (even in schools) crumbling infrastructure and lack of healthcare for the majority of working class families. The Nordic countries have a better model one in which there is access to healthcare, education and decent paying jobs and they don’t have to worry about mass shooters, burglars and every other evil a selfish society manufactures daily. My uncle moved to Germany 🇩🇪 from New York in 1976 and he has a Master Degree from NYU but he chose to stay there and raised a family and is now a retired German Citizen (he speaks four languages and was an Opera singer). Several years ago he had open heart surgery and his taxes paid for it with no out of pocket expenses. In the U.S. a surgery like that can bankrupt you depending on your salary or healthcare costs. Balance is a good thing for a healthy society 😉
Europe is trying hard to get VC funding up and keep start-ups in Europe. But so far it isn't working. Pretty interesting topic, I hope Europe can compete with the US again in the future.
Went on vacation a few years ago to Sydney and stayed at an airbnb house owned by a young French guy and his wife. He was saying pretty much that he started his high tech company in Australia instead of France because of the high taxes (and other government policies) which he used to believe in when he was younger in school but not anymore.
@@johnl.7754 Hmm. But Australia is a really poor choice then, 30% corporate tax for companies in Australia. Less then 25% for France if I remember correctly. 20% in the Nordics (Sweden, Denmark, Norway etc). France has very high incomes taxes and Australia has pretty low income taxes, but for corporations, I think France is actually lower
@@johnl.7754 Hah you reminded me of that famous French actor that became Russian to pay less taxes.Even Louis Vuitton company has moved to another country to pay less taxes.
Immigrants truly are what gives the US a competitive advantage. However, most of these immigrants do not come to the US as highly skilled to begin with. The US provides the education with world class colleges and universities, requiring a substantial investment that pays off.
They're more likely to take children and younger people and they have to be very hard working that way social security wont run out as quickly, and they're guaranteed hard workers
I have mixed feelings when it comes to "world class colleges". Alot of colleges and Universities in other countries are very much better that those in the US nowadays. What I saw lately shocked me. My old alma mater can easily compete with Stanford. The statement "Your University degree does not count in the USA because of quality reasons" is just a trick to keep competition at bay. So not really. But you definitely have world class prices when it comes to education. Why is it that alot of US and Chinese students come to Germany? Because of the unjustified high prices, 'cause they know the truth.
Having studied in the anglo-sphere, I can tell you that your education is not better than that of continental Europe. Also, your universities are increasingly being ruled by progressive radicals, which means that freedom of speech is not assured there anymore.
Studied at public universities in both US and Germany, the quality of education & university experience is vastly different and justifies the high sticker price of international tuition in the US. The way US-universities vet and select prospective students is also what partly makes up the reputation of certain universities.
Nothing’s free. Yes, you can make more in the U.S. at the potential expense of having to pay more for a house in a better school district for your kids or having to put them in private school, the risk of losing your high-paying job in a moment’s notice while losing your healthcare at the same time, the highest risk of being a victim of crime and, once you’re a U.S. citizen, having the U.S. tax you wherever in the world you end up living in. Always account for all the costs when counting that sweet-looking higher take-home pay.
Seems fitting for a south african to be discussing brain drain lol I recognize that accent from a mile away. Also I'm currently working in the US(as a south african)
I would gladly move from the US to work in the EU. However they just aren’t paying what my career valued All of the scientists mentioned in the beginning were valued here. Pay your workers EU
That, and Italy is also having one of the worst cases of brain drain in the world. All their talent and youth gets outsourced and they're left with an aging population - which is eating up all their money.
The US and Europe are good and bad at some things. But to be both equal in those specific areas, I think we need to learn from each other and see how to improve on those areas. 🤔🧐
@YoheYamatai as Brit, who visited America last year and has family in the US, I was amazed it was like the 90s, not one shop, restaurant or cafe besides 1 Starbucks at JFK Airport took contactless cards, streetlights, and light bulbs off places where filament lights and not LEDs, US internet speeds and the existence of "Data Caps" just pale in comparison to here. In terms of Technology most US cities are comparable to and even behind many African cities
People come here for the social equality and economic inequality. They want to be paid more for their skills, and not discriminated against for their race.
US is great, for the wealthy. Europe is great for the middle class and poor. The sad thing is that Europe is bad at attracting the capital class. This is why I think immigration is bad, those who are smart and educated leave to better places. Those who can't stay and have to deal with bad local environments. This can perpetuate attrocities, corruption, and etc as the people who know or can fix it leave.
The US is also better for the middle class, Europe is really just better for the poor. The poorest 20% of Americans make more than the average European.
I'm not sure if Europe is even that great for the middle You earn a little bit more the taxman comes knocking That said at least you won't go broke trying to see the doctor In America you have the hope of moving even further up if you don't go bust by your medical bill so take your pick
America doesn't steal anything and anyone. As a person from Eastern Europe (ex-USSR) - its just much much much people -friencly for talented an educated people. Its not only about money, there are many factors in play.
You can see this as America stealing talent, or smart people doing what's best for them on all sides. One point of view makes you bitter, the other makes you do what's best for you. 🇺🇸
As a US born citizen and child of immigrants , its so weird that US don't spend much on kid's education or should I say dont spend efficiently on kid's education and it hunts talents from other countries to fill that void.
I live and work in the US coming from Southeast Asia (Malaysia). I came to the US because all the books I read when I was 15, 16, about entrepreneurship, neuroscience, were all written by Americans. Europeans didn't seem to have an influence, except for the greats like Jung or Freud from 200 years ago. Everything was coming out of the US. The innovation, the talent, the ambition, the cutting edge. I didn't even know the US paid more when I came here. I just knew that as someone who didn't want to follow the traditional path of medicine, law, or engineering, the US would allow someone like me who was extremely driven and wanted to create impact in the world, that the US was the place to be.
Sounds kinda bitter. Like I remind my European acquaintances, if Europe hadn’t sucked so hard, there wouldn’t even be an America… (that part…) Don’t be bitter-be better (you know, like you already think you are).❤
Correction: Niels Bohr was not Jewish, but atheist, he never fled to the US, but he helped many do it, and he was also Danish, not German. So he should not be mentioned as a Jew fleeing to the US, although he was a great scientist :).
Hitler didn’t care if Jews were practicing or not, he just cared about the ethnicity. If Bohr had Jewish parents, being an atheist wasn’t going to keep him safe.
Basically in short:ww2 started a snow ball effect in the us and us used it and kept snow balling ever since Basically 1get talent 2make money from talent 3pay talent with the money they made 4repeate
I just saw an ad from the US calling for nurses to immigrate to the United States. Kind of sucks how one country can basically import all the skilled migrants it wants. But that's what it means to live in a free world.
I mean the amount of articles on my phone because it's in Spanish astounds me of ads like this: "This person immigrated to the US and got a visa because of this one trick, find out here how to get that visa!"
@@johnl.7754 Yeah that's unfortunately true, many people I've met don't do anything but work and drink, cause they send half their meager paycheck back home to family.
people come to US not because of its freedoms but to earn more money than they would if they stayed back in their country of origin. Lower and middle income countries cant compete with US to retain graduates or skilled people because of the wage premium. India is a prime example of tht..most here would happily stay back if they can get decent salaries but most dont and hence go to US to study in hopes of earning more
We should invest in more scholarships for US students at European universities in STEM related degree's on the condition they stay for 5yrs post graduation.
Besides the moral arguments for it, the video serves the practical reason for more equal rights. It means you can draw from a larger pool of skilled immigrants since they won’t feel like they’ll be shot/mutilated for existing and being successful.
I've always felt that America has also had a unique cultural advantage over other countries as well. Due to the U.S. being a melting pot it's relatively easy to come to the U.S. and BECOME an American since we are a nation founded on ideals not a common ancestry/ethnicity. I feel like if you were a Nigerian or an Indian guy or gal you would just feel a lot more comfortable and fit in much easier in America than say Germany, Sweden, or especially China.
I don't quite understand what you're saying, though? In the US people get shot/maimed (by the police as well as other citizens), yes. But that obviously doesn't deter immigrants, so it can't be a deciding factor... (Although, that and the general level of racism and social anxiety would be _my_ main reason for not going to the US, no matter how shizzy Europe and Asia are.)
@@simonspethmann8086 You are completely wrong. The U.S. is very open about racial issues, but things are actually much better here than in Europe. Europe only looks better because they don't talk about their problems. Immigrants from most African countries out earn whites in the U.S. you couldn't dream of that in Europe.
@@joshjwillway1545 So? It doesn't change the fact that most immigrants are extremely poorly integrated in Europe compared to in the U.S. Britain is one of the better countries, but France, Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Italy, etc are a disaster.
It's telling when you need to compare the US to all of Europe for a fair comparison. I see it on Reddit all the time despite europe being made up of many many nations
Some parts of romania aren't doing that badly. Bucharest for example will be comparable to many cities in germany by 2026 or 2028. And many people in romania wouldn't immigrate to the usa. I think the actual number who would is 100.000 out of 19 million so less than 1%. The real reason behind the american success is the amount of resources the usa have and the large amount of inhabitable territory.
This is precisely why you want your country to have income inequality. Income equality means you are exchanging your high skilled labor for low skill labor. Quite a bad deal for the country
people also go to america cause of their pop culture and influence my country has higher pay and better standard of living however there is still thousands moving to america to experience what they see in american films or social media
No. America does NOT steal the world's talent. The world's talent CHOOSES to come to America because we are the greatest nation-state the world has ever known.
I think that's a bad thing for the US citizens as well. While i can see why people move to America for money, i think their government should try making stuff like collage or healthcare less expensive instead of making the rich richer.
In the long run... it didn't. Do you know how absolutely shitty the Weimar Republic was for us? You cannot even imagine. Everything, really everything else was way better. In this situation you, of cause, also fall for an austrian idiot that says "I make Germany great again". Sounds familiar? Today we paid off our debt of 2 lost World Wars and still are an economic power-house even with our thousands of problems and absolutely horrible stupid politicians. We did get a few scraps back from the cold war from you guys, assuming you're american, by the way 😉.
Russia lost me to Portugal where my salary tripled. I love it here and yet my eyes water when I see american salaries. My goal is to work for an american company and remain here. That would be literal heaven
1930a as a start is too late, think of all the immigrants of the 19th century who became big scientists in America. Many big American names are originally german. Think also of Nikola Tesla as an example. He studied in Austria but moved to the US in the 1880s. At that time, the US was already one of the top global powers. In 1903 it overtook the UK in real GDP and in around 1913 in real GDP/capita. The 1930s era of nationalism in Europe just acted as an accelerator on this whole process, resulting in a huge brain drain in Europe. No smart person wanted to stay here (in Europe) anymore. Let’s hope, with 2024 as a super election year, that this doesn’t repeat.
One all of the country’s in Europe are not members of the EU, and the EU is not a country or state, there are countries in Europe who have the same average GDP per citizen as the USA, there are some who have much higher like Norway and Lichtenstein, and when it comes to GDP and not Income Ireland is very high to because of tax haven status. But I don’t know a lot of people who would want to move to the USA, it has lots/ diminished many positive aspects, the Statue of Liberty should definitely be returned from the banana republic style justice system of New York 🤮
@@yankeehunter4726 "Fair" is so flexible word, for different people it would mean totally different amounts. Who are you to enforce your vision of what is "fair" to someone else.
@@yankeehunter4726”In the USA they are just overly compensated.” Well this is the funniest cope I’ve ever seen. It’s like someone from Bangladesh saying that the people in Bangladesh are compensated fairly, but “it’s just that in Germany or France they are overly compensated.” Yeah, sure bud.
EU as a political union loses A LOT but not being a proper federation. No single (official) language, no single set of laws (at least major ones), and so on. Sure, single market technically exists and works in EU, but really only for crude goods, commodities etc. Resources, food, derivative products. But as soon as product is complex - like a web service, or a car, or a phone etc. instantly company has to deal with 27 sets of laws and almost the same number of mandatory languages. It can't compete like that with a truly single market of 300mil people speaking officially a single language. PS: I live in EU, and can rationally see how USA is far ahead in a lot of areas. And social services are cracking in EU, soon it won't be such a clear advantage.
Yes but there is no way that you will convince people to give up their cultures and languages just for the economy. Not even considering that issues like spending and value of taxes, racism, gay rights and other views are very different across the board. The EU gets called authoritarian as it is, so imagine if you implement that. De facto English is already becoming the second language of all the countries though, so we will probably evolve to some kind of mixed situation.
@@user-ic9vz8sp1x I have never used German outside of the DACH area if I am being honest. If you try that in NL for example people will even be kind of annoyed.
@@GWT1m0 No, we mean freeing Europe from the Nazis, Asia from the Japanese, South Korea from the Communists, putting a man on the moon and creating the rules-based international order.
If you're a highly skilled worker, it's just a no-brainer; the US pays you far more money, you get to keep a lot more of it after taxes, you're wealthy enough that social welfare programs don't matter to you, and your dollar goes a lot further.
@@visceralcinema I paid off my main/2nd house (in 5 years, although the mortgage was for 15 years) while I was unemployed, using my severance and savings, all thanks to good salaries and a diligent savings habit.
As an American you can really realize how many important roles are performed by immigrants. My movement disorder doctor is from Eastern Europe, and if she wasn't here idk what I'd do since she's the only doctor capable of treating my condition without travelling far. On a side note she's also incredible at what she does.
As a Swiss I earn about the same as my us colleagues in new york and the Bay area. But I guess we attract talent from european countries too. On the other hand the lower paid european locations have job security, which higher paid locations don't have at all.
US: pays people better than most countries even in Europe, gives true freedom, very secure, in general one if the safest countries, the richest countries, and so on and so forth. Europe: wHy Do pEoPlE lEaVe? wE aRe AmAzInG tOo!(at least in their heads). No hate to Europe, but just think before you complain. Some European countries are amazing to work and live in. It's just that the USA does 95% of things better. Saying it as a Russian.
@@Flint-g4h who is pretending? The reason why I mentioned USA it’s because it’s the subject on the thumbnail. But it’s just reality if one can get paid more on the same exact job that one is doing why not move. If I can get paid more in India then damn straight I’m moving there. “Pretending” 😂
@@Flint-g4h also “Nazi” are war criminals. They’re lucky they get to have a job and get paid instead of lifetime in jail. Of course I’m talking about the Nazi scientists
Kinda amazing how America managed to utilize Jews and Nazis at the same time.
It's very smart. ☻
They picked no sides except anglo-sphere
The rich J who support Z movement are the same as the Nz
They only care about money. If they can make money from serial killer they will accept him. America is corporation, not a country.
Nazi heading NASA😂😂
I left Canada for the United States.
Companies not only pay more but are much more respect to professionals.
As in, they show a more positive attitude towards you?
Canada should just dissolve their illigitimate nightmare and admit usa was right so we can combine the land and gave more than russia who rn has the most.
I'm in a Canadian college rn and I want to know more on the difference you felt from corporate in the US compared to Canada
@@timurermolenko2013id assume that’s what respect means
@@donttreadonme123not necessarily
-"Spanish Companies": Hey! you are an engineer and you have amazing skills! what about if I pay you minimum salary and make you work underpaid overtime? :) -"US companies": Hey! come here and we will pay you an actual decent salary!. -"Spanish Companies": Why can't we find workers anymore??
If there is one thing US companies are well known for its giving all of their employees an excellent work life balance
@@nothisispatrick6528like 10 days of holidays per year? 😅
@@nvdolcevita1717it was pretty obvious sarcasm
That's the result of a bigger government. Unfortunately, US are always on the brink of following the same path tho.
No sarcasm is obvious anymore, people are dumb enough to think and say anything.@@sirsurnamethefirstofhisnam7986
People vote with their feet and despite our problems here in the US it’s nice to hear we do this right.
Well, until the protests at our colleges. That might have sent Einstein to South America.
i doubt that
@@lcjr7807it’s true
@@tonyburzio4107the pro Palestine Protester? Einstein was pro Palestine
Smart people (who get paid accordingly) understand basic algebra:
US insurance cost is like the function y=6000 (Actual avg personal spend is $5400)
Meanwhile the added taxes of living in the Europe is like y=0.075x where x is your income (7.5% is probably a low estimate too)
Now kids, what happens at the point of intersection? And it's not like 80k is asking for much out of a productive individual.
It's not theft. Us European take our brightest for granted instead of acknowledging their contribution to society. Americans on the other hand value them. This has been going in for the last two centuries.
不是盗窃吗
看看你们国家的博物馆 中国文物占据80%以上
真有脸了你
you also punish them via taxes. Even if wages were the same, who wants to pay 60% in income taxes
An average tax on all thing in most european countries is between 30-50% not 60% @@Theaverageazn247
75% in France that's mad you want to make business there nothing to make here@@Theaverageazn247
@@Theaverageazn247 Taxes aren't that different. If anything, ever so slightly higher. But in EU countries, tax money actually gets spent efficiently and does what it intends to. In the US, it gets eaten up by lobbyists/special interests and contractors that overcharge the government because they can.
I don't disagree with the original commenter, but to start criticizing *fiscal policies* of European countries is ridiculous, considering how much better off they are than we are.
I can just say from my own perspective in chemical engineering and having moved countries - salary UK 90k USD (equivalent), USA 250k USD. I like the UK and all but let's be honest and say that was a no brainer.
That difference is almost like a 3rd world to lower 1st world.
@@1wun1 What a nonsensical statement.
@@Melior_Traiano it’s almost 3x pay
@@mufradr The pay is higher, but social security is lower. And if you compare the UK to a third world nation, you really don't have the first idea what a third world nation actually looks like.
@@Melior_Traiano obviously it isn’t a third world country, but I think its a good use of hyperbole whether or not the actual op intended so
If you're rich from a higher American salary you don't need European welfare
Yeah, people see it as this:
Retire at 55 (Just an example age) but until then live worse but still good6
or
Retire at 65 (also an example age) but you live a bit better
people see it as; well, if I retire 10 years earlier, wouldn't that extra 10 years be better than a scattered 1 extra year of vacation? Europe has better welfare and more vacation days then the US, but, by the amount of time you have without needing to work, the US wins in the end, because you retire earlier cause you have the same amount of money earlier
I always say this... I make probably 50 thousand dollars a year more than a comparable person in western Europe with the same job.
My health insurance has a 5k out of pocket maximum.
There's no way that you're getting 45k in other social benefits in europe... and when I retire, my social security will be more than someone in Europe would get
@@pepperonishthat’s funny. Your ss is our slush fund for unfounded wants.
@ryhol5417 catch me in 40 years getting it
It's a sacred cow. Anyone trying to get rid of it would lose their office
@@multigameswithryan9215That's BS My dad was forced to retire at 70 and he was an office worker in Dallas due to the economy fluctuating
Germans had it all and threw it away. They never fully recovered.
This^
I would argue that in some sense, they weren't the ones to throw it away. A large part of the reason WW1 happened was because the other nations felt like Germany was becoming too powerful by itself, a new hegemony. They left Germany in heavy debt in its aftermath so that Germany wouldn't be able to do that again.
Ironically, it just ended up making the US hegemony.
@@ericlee6145 better to have a bully a continent away who can't tell your country apart from the next, than a bully who lives just up the road and knows you well.
@@ericlee6145WW2 Germany happened because of WW1 Germany. But post-war they chose less of the “working” part and more of the “bleeding socialist” part after American left-leaning influence, which is heavy institutionally, but practically scorned outside them culturally and policy-wise in the US. National Socialists had blunt right-wingers with a concept of corporatized social welfare. You get stuff when company does good.
@@nobilesnovushomo58How can the national socialists be right winger in the traditional sense but also support corporatist welfare? That makes no sense and just means the national socialists were socialists
I am a scientist myself. Coming from a small European country. I'm developing new cancer treatments. In my home country the expected salary in my position is $1500-2000 net per month and an average apartment in the capital city costs >20x average yearly salary. This means that I would never be able to own a home. And I don't want to start a family while renting and moving around every year or so.
So, I said fuck it and I went to the US. In the US I get paid about $8300 net per month and I just bought my first 2 bed apartment without any issues at all. And even after paying all expenses each month I am still left with almost double the net salary that I'd make at home...
So, yeah, as much as I'd love to live and do my research in my home country (honestly, there are many things about the US that I don't like), it just makes no sense.
Top talent gets paid top dollar in the U.S. Vast majority of Americans think that’s good. A small number of losers think ‘they’ are being replaced.
In my country a researcher of cancer was not even paid, he moved to the US with his wife and now works at Harvard. No, my country is not developing but it is in the G7 (Italy)
What country did you come from?
@@irisobobo that is awesome glad to hear this same here im a nurse i was so happy to be able to afford a car i was elated when i touched the stirring wheels i cried, because i was in college i always wanted to own a car and my parents wouldnt buy me one cause its expensive, i hated riding the jeepney or bus in the philippines i hated having to carry all the heavy things in my hand books grocery and being crammed up inside the public transport
@@irisobobo i do travel nursing and earn on average 10,000$ a month that is just something you cannot find anywhere else in the world
As an American I call this Brain Gain
The most accepting place on earth
Salute 🫡
you lucky bastard
Lies again? True Anal Best Dad
aswell as the freedom you gave had a brain drain. 80% of our scientists, engineers and doctors left Iraq as a result
It's not theft if they come willingly.
Would you say the same when its about american industry being moved to China and other South East Asian countries?
@@GWT1m0yes
@@GWT1m0 Yes, the onus is on the US to make them want to stay.
@danielhalachev4714mental gymnastics. Nobody has been forced to move. It’s a huge economic decision that they have made for themselves and have been utilized by America. Both the U. S and the migrant benefit from the exchange. It’s the country they leave from that must figure out the best course of action for themselves to prosper and attain people. That’s global market policy.
It is theft if they sanction or invade your country
How about we don't treat talent like dirt.
LOL
When woman enter the work place, man have to share their wage to them, because woman productivity is less then 10 percent of the man while they need to be paid the same
It's not treatment; US doesn't treat people 'better'. It is taxes and regulations.
Europeans want the solution to be that they are not green enough, or egalitarian enough, or some other bs that fits their world view. But that is the root of the problem.
@@Nordzumuwhat he means is not acting like California, taking talented productive individuals for granted, and fleecing them for tax money while providing relatively little to them in return.
Lies again? Big Money Faster True Anal
Even so many Canadians move down south for better salaries and purchasing power
Yep. The crazy thing is that the brightest minds in Canada are always going to be enticed to go work in the US. They benefit from our equitable university system lol
How so? TN visa has restrictions.
My relatives in the medical field left Canada for the US. I with my IQ of 132 was tempted to move to the US but I lost interest in visiting other countries.
Canadians have been migrating to the US for opportunities for more than 200 years. It's been a thing since America broke off of England.
You can even read references to it in stories like Anne of Green Gables - which takes place in Canada. And the bright kids from her school mostly moved to the US.
Why should someone accept less money, pay exorbitant taxes and pay more for everything if he doesn't have to? For top professionals, remaining in Canada means being another average worker. Those social programs in Canada and Europe are irrelevant: it would cost less to pay for those services and you will most likely never need most of them anyway.
All these complainers criticize professionals for leaving, but they don't seem to have a problem with athletes or celebrities who leave for better opportunities.
I am a British physician who just immigrated to America. It was a difficult decision to leave behind my family and friends in the UK but for me it’s worth it because the salaries and career opportunities in the USA are so much better than the UK. American salaries for doctors are literally 5x higher than the UK and working conditions aren’t as miserable as the UKs National Health Service
I intend to do everything I can to contribute to the USA as a doctor and with my medical research. The UK didn’t value my skills, my knowledge or experience so I’m glad I’ll be moving to a country that is. I don’t plan to come back to the UK so I’ll put down roots here and hopefully have a family here too. God bless America 🇺🇸
And we're glad to have you! Best of luck in your new home in the US of A!
And we're glad to have you! Best of luck in your new home in the US of A!
You are not ethnic British
He's not ethnic American too, so what's the point? @@dasaauploads1143
“Didn’t value you you” come on bro just say it like it is. One paid you more, you did it for the money that’s it. Don’t act like the USA cares more about you, just because they pay better.
The U.S. pays STEM professionals what they deserve to be paid…they’re valued and valuable…im a nurse in the U.S. with dual citizenship…I make more in the U.S. by far as a specialist nurse and I’m also respected as a professional. In Germany 🇩🇪 the health minister, she said “anyone can be a nurse…”. In the U.S. it’s a profession and requires a degree and paid properly. The same is true for many other fields in Europe, they give lip service to these fields but don’t treat them or pay them as though they do respect them. It’s not “stealing” anyone. It’s showing them that they matter professionally.
Since when did nursing become a STEM field? She's right, anyone can be a nurse. Things like specialist nurse, NP or the countless other acronym titles they give to nurses as well as prescription rights without going through medical school or adequate training are a complete non-solution invented by corrupt politicians to address physician shortages.
Thank you for moving and working here.
@@marksmadhousemetaphysicalm2938 agree! When i first touched the steering wheel of my vehicle i cried i could not believe i can afford a car 😂 my college classmates that are nurses in europe are far waaaay behind me they couldnt save anything from their salaries and no disposable income… i have so much disposable income i just bought an hermes bag 2 months ago not to brag but i am very thankful for this country for giving me this opportunity… and i will do my best to serve american interest..i pledge my loyalty to the USA
"How America _steals_ talent" -- by _paying_ more
It's because American employers can pay more, things Wealthy Europeans, Canada and Japan can't do
They also can pay more, in some countries. In others that can't - they can pay at least enough to live comfortably. But they don't. That's the difference.
America loves its contributors, let's be honest
Elon Musk is admired by millions in the U.S.
@@youcantalwaysgetwhatyouwan6687 Not in general thought. its just the big companies who are the biggest in the world, like nasa, space x etc. You can't access stuff like that anywhere else. But general stuff its quite different, I'd rather work a oil platform in norway compared to us for example, US is great if you are in a great position in life but sucks if you are not.
Europeans, Indians and Chinese make fun of Americans and boast about their country online, but given the chance they will be the first one to board the plane to US.
Paying more = stealing 🤣
crazy what happens when you have the most open immigration laws in the world and value highly specialized workers
Legal immigration laws are easy and open only to other rich europeon countries.
You could be a highly educated middle class citizen of an 'undesirable' nation and have more trouble getting to the US than some drug dealing teenager in sweden.
Having a shitty passport wiol ruin your life.
Being born in africa (even south Africa, south and central asia or eastern europe (think Georgia, not poland), really limits places you can visit as a tourist and as an job seeker.
Its partly about race but its not only about race, even japanese and south koreans have a better chance for immigration to the US than the above countries.
The exception is if you have a muslim name or have brown (think dark skinned arab) skin.
The new dutch prime minister and the some recent laws that France has pushed out recently really isn't great news for the state of islamophobia in the western world.
@@notfunny3397most immigrants in the us are low skilled low education workers from south and Central America.
@@jaylenblount128 I could only find reliable unbiased info for 2016, but according to official immigration statistics, only 13% were refugees and asylum seekers.
Some applied for asylum before arriving, some applied after.
There might have been a few 'fake' refugees from India or whatever, but most were refugees from Haiti and Venezuela and such.
Anyone who immigrated the normal way (>80%) would have to pay pretty large amounts of money for registration, and would also have been vetted thoroughly.
Only some Europeans have a high success rate for applications.
The only people who are uneducated in this group would be students and relatives.
@@notfunny3397People who are highly educated and easily assimilated are accepted faster. It’s not hard to figure out.
Then why so many Latin Americans? All the states near the Mexican border consider Spanish and English equal now, doesn't sound like assimilation to me. @@trichi827
I go to a very small university but still, the amount of students from all over the world really astonishes me considering we have less than 1k students. There’s people from east asia, South Asia, Africa, Latin America and all over Europe. Multiple Germans, multiple Brits, multiple South Africans, and Argentinians, etc.
@@Mmjk_12 No actually. Exchange students are part of a program that typically only last a few months and is mostly done through high school.. These are international students who are doing their entire college education at this university and are not doing it through some program.
@@Mmjk_12 I’m not giving personal information to a stranger on the internet
@@jtom2958thinking of a certain one in new york
*number of students
Just look at how much Americans pay for their scientists and engineers. And take a look at how much Europe pays similar counterpart. Not even close.
That’s how USA can keep ahead of China while not valuing education as much before higher education (College, University….)
Yeah, China does school better than us, but once you get to university, we are so fucking good, except for the debt you rack up, SORRY ABOUT THAT GUYS
American Universities literally farm Chinese international students. A lot of them end up becoming top tier researchers in the US.
It's also how they can screw over poor countries
The academic ecosystem in China is bad. You only see those that have imminent benefits especially money get the continuation. There is almost no benefit in staying in China if you want to do theories.
@@multigameswithryan9215This is slowly being changed... Chinese universities are getting way better at things like military research and development and teaching subjects like aerospace engineering and students competing to make technologies for the people's liberation army rocket force of China
You got the Bureaucreacy fact wrong... the EU adds additional 60k bureaucrats ontop of the already existing ones in each country... Germany for example has 1,9 million bureaucrats for 84 million people alone
yeah I was wondering how that could be true 😂
Yeah totally absurd number, not sure how they missed that one lol. I’m sure the EU + national governments have many multiples the bureaucrats. Also the “reverse brain drain” numbers probably need a fact check. Many Americans retire in Europe, so they’re not actually working there (or not very much).
Came here just to point that absurdity
“Steals” 😅 they literally have to apply and wait in line for even the chance to come here.
nope if you have a phd, or a skill that is very in high demand you cut to the front of the line. I was working in cybersecurity in Japan as a white hacker, and was offered 3 amazing job offers ranging from 175k - 270k dollars plus benefits, compared to my job in Japan only 90k. I took an offer and I got my work pass over the weekend upon landing in the US, and after a month I was a US resident. It's been 3 years now, and I'm in the process of getting citizenship. All paid for my company.
lol that’s European for you. When they can’t compete, they try to make you look like the bad one smh
@@Sora_Nai Of course they go to the front of the line. They worked hard to get a phD. They should reap the rewards for that, it is the american way.
@@Sora_Nai Could you please tell us how did you become that skilled? Which certifications do you have?
There is a clear difference between skilled workers whose expertise are in high demand everywhere and unskilled workers. Don’t act like you don’t know the difference, you can’t be that stupid.
U forgot about immigration after Russian revolution in 1917-1922. All writers went to Europe. While physics immigrated to the USA.
Easiest example is Sicorsky, who made first controllable helicopter(wich was used in WW2 on Pacific). Later his company will create Blackhawk
Earlier still, France rid itself of its Hugenot elites who found so much success in, among others, the UK, a French-sounding surname is a very likely indicator of wealth and status to this day there.
This is so true, my friend's uncle goes to university in America for higher education. He is very smart of course and the best place for higher education is in the US
China is a good person also
My Bavarian PhD professor said six years ago :There are so few graduates in physics and chemistry in the US because the courses are prohibitively expensise and people can make fortunes in parasitic jobs in finance and Wall Street. We, the German tax payers, give an excellent education for free to too many scientists, which end up in the US lacking them
I’m sure your Bavarian professor has the sense to know that if the kid is already paying for college anyway (STEM students tend to get scholarships btw), then they’re not going to *not* study the thing they went to college for. This is especially true for “nerds” who have always known that they wanted to study physics or chemistry.
Most students don’t study physics or chemistry for the same reason that most are not math majors: those are not easy courses of study, and the vast majority know that it is not for them from before they even leave high school. More find out later on in college that it’s not for them, so they switch majors. Also, people getting physics or chemistry degrees in undergrad are expected to continue on for their PhDs if they hope to find meaningful work in their fields. Again, few are interested in this to begin with.
Additionally, a lot of the most lucrative “parasitic” careers on Wall Street are the very ones where people are specifically recruited from universities for their exceptional mathematical talent. If a student performs well in a premier mathematical competition like the Putnam or gains some other kind of recognition, or a referral, or a recommendation from a respected math or physics professor, then they’ll likely be on the radars of math departments across the country in case they apply to join a PhD program, but they’ll also likely be recruited by industry groups with very deep pockets - especially those on Wall Street. Your professor has clearly never heard of a hedge fund or the kind of money they throw at the very brightest math and physics students straight out of undergrad. This is actually something that always has some decently strong, though not unusually talented, students at top universities seriously considering math and physics degrees, though most ultimately stay away due to the difficulty. This has been going on for over 15 years, since every financial or career journal started regularly writing about the “quants” and other mathematical researchers who have taken over Wall Street.
So if someone had the interest and the ability to properly study physics and do well, then that might also be the thing that maximizes their earning potential. People this bright also, generally don’t pay anything for college because, again, scholarships tend to be especially generous for this cohort.
Meanwhile the Americans dominate in Nobel prizes
100%
Also ... going abroad is not a lightweight decision, there is so much more than money factoring in on this decision.. otherwise Germans would all go to Switzerland.. we all know that there is a natural threshold holding this up. Probably easier for Germans to go to the USA than Switzerland, funny but true.
PhDs in STEM are usually free in the United States.
In India, you are treated like a slave at work (even if you are paid in the Top 3%), the constant extreme competition, bullshit & corruption makes it inhospitable for decent std. of living. Hence, people move to the US. Minus the Wokeness, Drugs & Gun violence, US is a pretty good place for skilled immigrants.
even those negatives are mostly personal choices that we can simply _choose_ to stay away from
Indians literally practice high level caste system in the US (even after several generations of living there), they have zero rights to complain about wokeness.
@@davidh4374really? Please tell us the secret to staying away from bullets
@@thumpmusician340 it's no secret how to get _closer_ to bullets...
Just do the _opposite_ of that.
Don’t live in high crime areas. While the US homicide rate is high, it paints an incorrect picture that violence is widespread across the nation. The reality is that only specific areas suffer from that high homicide rate, and that many parts of the US have equal or less than the homicide rates of other European Countries. This is true with gun crime as well.
Paying somebody better is not theft
French artisans and engineers left first to surrounding countries and then to America.
The Irish exported millions of people from 1820-1930.
Talent moves always and for different reasons but usually to live freely.
The Irish actually left from a famine the English are partially responsible for
The USA is so OP as a country it's like they're playing on tutorial mode while using cheats.
If Mexico hadn't been so focused on fucking itself up over the last 500 years, North America would be a scene of eternal rivalry, not unlike that in Europe between France and the UK.
I have EU citizenship but only work for US Fortune500 companies with offices in Europe. I used to work for a European company for 1 year - never again. My past and current US employers (FAANG, other big tech) are much more generous and offer better resources, benefits, and perks + you get to work with top talent every day. In addition, I was able to attend grad school in the U.S. which was fully funded by my US alma mater. So the U.S. paid for my education in a way and I am happy to provide my skills and help to advance my current employer’s business activities in Europe.
In Amerika truck divers earn more on average than mechenical engineers with an masters degree and 15 years of experience in germany. its a joke
I've tried applying my talent back home in a Latin Country.... I found myself against a rigid barrier: The government and its idiocracy
No such thing as "stealing talent." Immigrants come to America on their own with talent to make a major contribution to society. Period.
So goes the billion dollar narrative (propaganda) 😂
@@jahazielbonilla9007 as one of those "immigrants" I can confirm that it is NOT propoganda, and I love the United States.
@@baljeetpatel1745 you love the USA because you’re doing well and came perhaps from a country of lesser opportunity but I can tell you that I have young adults that have a college degree and are struggling to buy a house and are underpaid and under insured with the astronomical cost of healthcare and they are third generation “Americans” although due to their ethnicity will never be treated as those of European descent. When shit hits the fan as more euro-Americans get displaced in the workplace and lose the well paying jobs they used to have, watch out Mr. Immigrant because you’re nothing but another brown person they will blame their declining standard of living on as they never will blame their own (white people) for offshoring the good jobs overseas for higher profits. Then tell me if you love Amerikkka then….😉
@@jahazielbonilla9007bro's mad he's not skilled enough to go to the US lmao
@@nuno_alex505 I don’t know if you’re referring to me but I’m a U.S. citizen and Navy veteran. I lived in California for 43 years and raised 4 children with my wife and all of them are University graduates. One of my daughters is a university professor at an Ivy League university and another one has a Master’s in nursing and is a supervisor in a Hospital in Berkeley California. I am retired in the Caribbean but lived most of my life in California and know firsthand how hard it can be making a living in the USA. I been a commercial union painter, a union organizer, a Labor Representative as well as a Planning Commissioner for the City of Oakland in California. Bottom line there are other countries that do a better job providing decent paying jobs, healthcare and a decent education for working people (Sweden, Norway 🇳🇴 Finland 🇫🇮 and Denmark 🇩🇰 come to mind as well as Australia 🇦🇺 and New Zealand 🇳🇿). The U.S. is no doubt the best country for rich people but NOT for working class families.
America doesn't steal the world's talent. We pay better, so they come to us. Everyone has a price.
It's the old wealth vs new wealth. Poor countries cannot compete on salaries because they don't have the wealth, which leads to brain drain, which ensures no new wealth is created in that country.
It's not stealing if you pay for it!
8:15 I'm a US-EU dual citizen. If you can find me one place in Europe that lets me get as much disposable income as in the US, let me know ASAP. Until then I have no choice but to keep working in the US.
Switzerland.I can bet
Switzerland. And it actually looks great.
Norway
@@denalisiomontpellier4064No.Not Norway
You need to speak German, Danish, Norwegian or another language fluently. They don't care about your skills
This should be realize and learnt by developing country like my country Indonesia, the govrt literally corrupt and they didn't care about the nation's future. Sadly i have plan to go to Australia by the end of this year to get better quality life, not because i hate my country. I do love Indonesia but i can't help. The system already suck, corrupt, full of nepotism, etc.
Australia bro?
@@jonathanhoward1499 Australia consistently ranks in the top 5 countries with highest quality of life so not sure why that's even a question.
Europe does not have only 60.000 bureaucrats. That is only on a EU level. The individual counties have huge armies of bureaucrats.
I have a feeling the TH-camr knew this but said it anyway to boost the comments section
60? Lol. Try 60 million.
Subjective US experience by yearly income:
$100K+ best place in the world.
$10-100K really depends.
Glad someone is paying attention. No one on here are being objective as there is no doubt that if you’re making a good to great salary in the US then of course you’re happy. The fact remains that of all the Industrialized nations the U.S. is the most unequal and therefore you have higher rates of crime, homelessness, drug abused and racism as well. I lived in California for 43 years and I am now retired. I served a three (3) year apprenticeship as a commercial painter in the Union and then performed for 24 years in the Industry with union wages and benefits. In my late 40’s I took labor studies courses in my local community college at night while I worked during the day to help raise 4 children with my wife. I then got hired by the union as an organizer and then as a labor Representative and my salary almost doubled but I was lucky because of workers sacrifice and struggles before me, specially during the depression years of the 30’s. My point is that unions are almost nonexistent in the U.S. and most workers earn a little more than the minimum wage thereby becoming homeless as they cannot afford to pay rent in most urban areas like Los Angeles, San Francisco , San Jose and San Diego as well as many other cities in California. Higher Education is very expensive in the U.S. so many students are in debt before they even graduate and get a job. In Denmark 🇩🇰 a fast food worker at McDonalds makes around $23 per hour and his taxes help pay for his or hers healthcare plus he gets a pension. In the USA you make minimum wage( $7.69 per hour and no benefits). So if you are selfish and don’t care that others have a hard time surviving then the U.S. is the place for you but there is a price to pay with skyrocketing crime, mass shootings (even in schools) crumbling infrastructure and lack of healthcare for the majority of working class families. The Nordic countries have a better model one in which there is access to healthcare, education and decent paying jobs and they don’t have to worry about mass shooters, burglars and every other evil a selfish society manufactures daily. My uncle moved to Germany 🇩🇪 from New York in 1976 and he has a Master Degree from NYU but he chose to stay there and raised a family and is now a retired German Citizen (he speaks four languages and was an Opera singer). Several years ago he had open heart surgery and his taxes paid for it with no out of pocket expenses. In the U.S. a surgery like that can bankrupt you depending on your salary or healthcare costs. Balance is a good thing for a healthy society 😉
More like 150k plus it’s a wonderland 60-100k it’s alright kinda sketch 0-60k o fuck
Europe is trying hard to get VC funding up and keep start-ups in Europe. But so far it isn't working. Pretty interesting topic, I hope Europe can compete with the US again in the future.
Went on vacation a few years ago to Sydney and stayed at an airbnb house owned by a young French guy and his wife. He was saying pretty much that he started his high tech company in Australia instead of France because of the high taxes (and other government policies) which he used to believe in when he was younger in school but not anymore.
@@johnl.7754 Hmm. But Australia is a really poor choice then, 30% corporate tax for companies in Australia. Less then 25% for France if I remember correctly. 20% in the Nordics (Sweden, Denmark, Norway etc).
France has very high incomes taxes and Australia has pretty low income taxes, but for corporations, I think France is actually lower
@@toniderdonmaybe you’re right I never researched it just saying what I heard. I’m from USA.
Nah bro, give me your brain.
@@johnl.7754 Hah you reminded me of that famous French actor that became Russian to pay less taxes.Even Louis Vuitton company has moved to another country to pay less taxes.
The US also pushes private/public partnerships which help cut costs for the creators.
@mkw5398 A damn autocorrect mistake! Thanks for catching it! It was supposed to be US not IS.
Immigrants truly are what gives the US a competitive advantage. However, most of these immigrants do not come to the US as highly skilled to begin with. The US provides the education with world class colleges and universities, requiring a substantial investment that pays off.
They're more likely to take children and younger people and they have to be very hard working that way social security wont run out as quickly, and they're guaranteed hard workers
I have mixed feelings when it comes to "world class colleges". Alot of colleges and Universities in other countries are very much better that those in the US nowadays. What I saw lately shocked me. My old alma mater can easily compete with Stanford. The statement "Your University degree does not count in the USA because of quality reasons" is just a trick to keep competition at bay. So not really. But you definitely have world class prices when it comes to education. Why is it that alot of US and Chinese students come to Germany? Because of the unjustified high prices, 'cause they know the truth.
@@stzi7691 "cause they know the truth" Yeah continue that delulu
Having studied in the anglo-sphere, I can tell you that your education is not better than that of continental Europe. Also, your universities are increasingly being ruled by progressive radicals, which means that freedom of speech is not assured there anymore.
Studied at public universities in both US and Germany, the quality of education & university experience is vastly different and justifies the high sticker price of international tuition in the US. The way US-universities vet and select prospective students is also what partly makes up the reputation of certain universities.
I've just left the UK to work in the US space industry as the take home salary was triple...
and if you invest smart your money it will grow, grow and grow in the USA .
Nothing’s free. Yes, you can make more in the U.S. at the potential expense of having to pay more for a house in a better school district for your kids or having to put them in private school, the risk of losing your high-paying job in a moment’s notice while losing your healthcare at the same time, the highest risk of being a victim of crime and, once you’re a U.S. citizen, having the U.S. tax you wherever in the world you end up living in. Always account for all the costs when counting that sweet-looking higher take-home pay.
America is the closest to free you will ever find.
@@alchemist_oneNot even close, according to any serious freedom index.
it is simple. on both coasts where there is no crime houses cost a million dollars. the upper midwest is cheaper and safer
It's because you can live in the USA and be whoever you want and people will leave you alone
Seems fitting for a south african to be discussing brain drain lol I recognize that accent from a mile away. Also I'm currently working in the US(as a south african)
You recognize an accent in print? 😂😂😂
America: hey you wanna work for us, we'll pay lots of money.
This guy: omg look how America is stealing the worlds workers.
I would gladly move from the US to work in the EU.
However they just aren’t paying what my career valued
All of the scientists mentioned in the beginning were valued here.
Pay your workers EU
Agreed, I’m from Spain but moved to the USA to be a doctor because the pay in Spain is nothing compared to the pay in the USA
@@danix4883 it’s such a shame that’s how things are
The move is to work in America and then take vacations in southern Europe where everything is incredibly cheap.
@@danix4883 and you can vacation like a king when you go back to Spain! Spaniards going to America to make their fortune is an ancient practice ;)
No country is more affected than India. American companies offer outlandish salaries to IIT Engineers and off they go to USA.
They're not really outlandish to the Americans it's just the price of good workers.
That, and Italy is also having one of the worst cases of brain drain in the world. All their talent and youth gets outsourced and they're left with an aging population - which is eating up all their money.
The US and Europe are good and bad at some things. But to be both equal in those specific areas, I think we need to learn from each other and see how to improve on those areas. 🤔🧐
Nah US is better and its why way more people immigrate to the US than Europe
ngl US is WAAAAAAY better than Europe in technology
ngl US is WAAAAAAY better than Europe in technology
I can agree@@YoheYamatai
@YoheYamatai as Brit, who visited America last year and has family in the US, I was amazed it was like the 90s, not one shop, restaurant or cafe besides 1 Starbucks at JFK Airport took contactless cards, streetlights, and light bulbs off places where filament lights and not LEDs, US internet speeds and the existence of "Data Caps" just pale in comparison to here.
In terms of Technology most US cities are comparable to and even behind many African cities
Being a more unequal country, means that highly skilled people can get paid more if they go there.
LOL.
yeah you get paid more if you're highly skilled.. that's common sense. brain surgeons vs plastic surgeons, like cmon what??
People come here for the social equality and economic inequality. They want to be paid more for their skills, and not discriminated against for their race.
@@efeddwdw9782 but in some countries, these people enjoy higher privilege than they do in other countries, also common sense.
lol, true
US is great, for the wealthy. Europe is great for the middle class and poor. The sad thing is that Europe is bad at attracting the capital class. This is why I think immigration is bad, those who are smart and educated leave to better places. Those who can't stay and have to deal with bad local environments. This can perpetuate attrocities, corruption, and etc as the people who know or can fix it leave.
The US is also better for the middle class, Europe is really just better for the poor. The poorest 20% of Americans make more than the average European.
I'm not sure if Europe is even that great for the middle
You earn a little bit more the taxman comes knocking
That said at least you won't go broke trying to see the doctor
In America you have the hope of moving even further up if you don't go bust by your medical bill so take your pick
What is a "middle class"? And what is a "capital class"?
@@edh1010 Do you know anyone from the "poorest 20% of Americans"? LOL
LMAOO?? Europe has the highest poverty rates and inequality rates in the developed world, look at Netherlands highest inequality in the world.
I'm currently in Nepal , also planning to immigrate to USA.
Well when you do come here, Welcome to America
America doesn't steal anything and anyone. As a person from Eastern Europe (ex-USSR) - its just much much much people -friencly for talented an educated people. Its not only about money, there are many factors in play.
You can see this as America stealing talent, or smart people doing what's best for them on all sides. One point of view makes you bitter, the other makes you do what's best for you. 🇺🇸
As a US born citizen and child of immigrants , its so weird that US don't spend much on kid's education or should I say dont spend efficiently on kid's education and it hunts talents from other countries to fill that void.
I live and work in the US coming from Southeast Asia (Malaysia). I came to the US because all the books I read when I was 15, 16, about entrepreneurship, neuroscience, were all written by Americans. Europeans didn't seem to have an influence, except for the greats like Jung or Freud from 200 years ago. Everything was coming out of the US. The innovation, the talent, the ambition, the cutting edge. I didn't even know the US paid more when I came here. I just knew that as someone who didn't want to follow the traditional path of medicine, law, or engineering, the US would allow someone like me who was extremely driven and wanted to create impact in the world, that the US was the place to be.
Sounds kinda bitter.
Like I remind my European acquaintances, if Europe hadn’t sucked so hard, there wouldn’t even be an America… (that part…) Don’t be bitter-be better (you know, like you already think you are).❤
Lol ❤ I know so SMUG are they not?
Correction: Niels Bohr was not Jewish, but atheist, he never fled to the US, but he helped many do it, and he was also Danish, not German. So he should not be mentioned as a Jew fleeing to the US, although he was a great scientist :).
Hitler didn’t care if Jews were practicing or not, he just cared about the ethnicity. If Bohr had Jewish parents, being an atheist wasn’t going to keep him safe.
Basically in short:ww2 started a snow ball effect in the us and us used it and kept snow balling ever since
Basically 1get talent 2make money from talent 3pay talent with the money they made 4repeate
I just saw an ad from the US calling for nurses to immigrate to the United States. Kind of sucks how one country can basically import all the skilled migrants it wants. But that's what it means to live in a free world.
I mean the amount of articles on my phone because it's in Spanish astounds me of ads like this: "This person immigrated to the US and got a visa because of this one trick, find out here how to get that visa!"
Many countries depend on remittances from overseas workers (for better or worse)
@@johnl.7754 Yeah that's unfortunately true, many people I've met don't do anything but work and drink, cause they send half their meager paycheck back home to family.
people come to US not because of its freedoms but to earn more money than they would if they stayed back in their country of origin.
Lower and middle income countries cant compete with US to retain graduates or skilled people because of the wage premium.
India is a prime example of tht..most here would happily stay back if they can get decent salaries but most dont and hence go to US to study in hopes of earning more
Feel free to work 13h shifts in the US.
We should invest in more scholarships for US students at European universities in STEM related degree's on the condition they stay for 5yrs post graduation.
Besides the moral arguments for it, the video serves the practical reason for more equal rights. It means you can draw from a larger pool of skilled immigrants since they won’t feel like they’ll be shot/mutilated for existing and being successful.
I've always felt that America has also had a unique cultural advantage over other countries as well. Due to the U.S. being a melting pot it's relatively easy to come to the U.S. and BECOME an American since we are a nation founded on ideals not a common ancestry/ethnicity. I feel like if you were a Nigerian or an Indian guy or gal you would just feel a lot more comfortable and fit in much easier in America than say Germany, Sweden, or especially China.
I don't quite understand what you're saying, though? In the US people get shot/maimed (by the police as well as other citizens), yes. But that obviously doesn't deter immigrants, so it can't be a deciding factor...
(Although, that and the general level of racism and social anxiety would be _my_ main reason for not going to the US, no matter how shizzy Europe and Asia are.)
@@simonspethmann8086 You are completely wrong. The U.S. is very open about racial issues, but things are actually much better here than in Europe. Europe only looks better because they don't talk about their problems. Immigrants from most African countries out earn whites in the U.S. you couldn't dream of that in Europe.
@@WillieFungo The PM of the UK is Indian and half of his cabinet isn't white, what do you mean?
@@joshjwillway1545 So? It doesn't change the fact that most immigrants are extremely poorly integrated in Europe compared to in the U.S. Britain is one of the better countries, but France, Germany, Sweden, Denmark, Italy, etc are a disaster.
The social contract for hardworking people in Europe is just disgusting.
Jamaican here and I’m a nurse 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
It's telling when you need to compare the US to all of Europe for a fair comparison. I see it on Reddit all the time despite europe being made up of many many nations
The US is an Europe with less language and cultural barriers, and safer geographically. That’s how she grows stronger and attract the talents
Some parts of romania aren't doing that badly. Bucharest for example will be comparable to many cities in germany by 2026 or 2028. And many people in romania wouldn't immigrate to the usa. I think the actual number who would is 100.000 out of 19 million so less than 1%. The real reason behind the american success is the amount of resources the usa have and the large amount of inhabitable territory.
It is not important how much you earn perhour. More important is what you get for that money.
"America buys nerds" - Magnus Carlsen
*Mr Krabs Voice:* MONEY
This is precisely why you want your country to have income inequality. Income equality means you are exchanging your high skilled labor for low skill labor. Quite a bad deal for the country
people also go to america cause of their pop culture and influence my country has higher pay and better standard of living however there is still thousands moving to america to experience what they see in american films or social media
What's your country?
Okay but a lot of those films are just not realistic of the average Americans experience 😭
@@tornn8847 america has been pushing out pro america propaganda via hollywood for so long alot of people believe it
are you swiss ?
@@ayushrajatvlogs singapore
No. America does NOT steal the world's talent. The world's talent CHOOSES to come to America because we are the greatest nation-state the world has ever known.
I think that's a bad thing for the US citizens as well. While i can see why people move to America for money, i think their government should try making stuff like collage or healthcare less expensive instead of making the rich richer.
It's not stealing.
it's poaching.
electing the Nazi's back fired on Germany.
In the long run... it didn't. Do you know how absolutely shitty the Weimar Republic was for us? You cannot even imagine. Everything, really everything else was way better. In this situation you, of cause, also fall for an austrian idiot that says "I make Germany great again". Sounds familiar? Today we paid off our debt of 2 lost World Wars and still are an economic power-house even with our thousands of problems and absolutely horrible stupid politicians. We did get a few scraps back from the cold war from you guys, assuming you're american, by the way 😉.
They didn't elect them, the Z group put them in power
The Germans didn't elect the Nazis just for the sake of it. The Treaty of Versailles and the Great Depression directly led to their rise.
"desirable immigrants" is such a crazy phrase
Title should be: How Europe repels talents through enormous taxation, red tape, bureaucracy and socialism 🤣
Socialism? You’re so wrong if you think Europe is socialist
@@Flint-g4hwell I mean overall it is more socialist than the US ☠️
The Americans going to Europe are the ones who can’t make it in America
"How America pays the world's talent better than their home countries"
Russia lost me to Portugal where my salary tripled. I love it here and yet my eyes water when I see american salaries. My goal is to work for an american company and remain here. That would be literal heaven
1930a as a start is too late, think of all the immigrants of the 19th century who became big scientists in America. Many big American names are originally german. Think also of Nikola Tesla as an example. He studied in Austria but moved to the US in the 1880s. At that time, the US was already one of the top global powers. In 1903 it overtook the UK in real GDP and in around 1913 in real GDP/capita. The 1930s era of nationalism in Europe just acted as an accelerator on this whole process, resulting in a huge brain drain in Europe. No smart person wanted to stay here (in Europe) anymore. Let’s hope, with 2024 as a super election year, that this doesn’t repeat.
Tesla was serbian, dude 🤦♂️
How their dare to pay more!?
One all of the country’s in Europe are not members of the EU, and the EU is not a country or state, there are countries in Europe who have the same average GDP per citizen as the USA, there are some who have much higher like Norway and Lichtenstein, and when it comes to GDP and not Income Ireland is very high to because of tax haven status. But I don’t know a lot of people who would want to move to the USA, it has lots/ diminished many positive aspects, the Statue of Liberty should definitely be returned from the banana republic style justice system of New York 🤮
Thier not being stolen rather fairly compensated.
Nope. They are fairly compensated in Europe. In the USA they are just overly compensated, while normal workers are undercompensated.
@@yankeehunter4726The reality was already explained, so you didn't have a reason to reply.
@@yankeehunter4726 no American company has overpaid its workers and stayed in business.
@@yankeehunter4726 "Fair" is so flexible word, for different people it would mean totally different amounts. Who are you to enforce your vision of what is "fair" to someone else.
@@yankeehunter4726”In the USA they are just overly compensated.” Well this is the funniest cope I’ve ever seen. It’s like someone from Bangladesh saying that the people in Bangladesh are compensated fairly, but “it’s just that in Germany or France they are overly compensated.” Yeah, sure bud.
It’s called incentives, America actually cultivates innovation
EU as a political union loses A LOT but not being a proper federation. No single (official) language, no single set of laws (at least major ones), and so on. Sure, single market technically exists and works in EU, but really only for crude goods, commodities etc. Resources, food, derivative products. But as soon as product is complex - like a web service, or a car, or a phone etc. instantly company has to deal with 27 sets of laws and almost the same number of mandatory languages. It can't compete like that with a truly single market of 300mil people speaking officially a single language.
PS: I live in EU, and can rationally see how USA is far ahead in a lot of areas. And social services are cracking in EU, soon it won't be such a clear advantage.
Yes but there is no way that you will convince people to give up their cultures and languages just for the economy. Not even considering that issues like spending and value of taxes, racism, gay rights and other views are very different across the board.
The EU gets called authoritarian as it is, so imagine if you implement that. De facto English is already becoming the second language of all the countries though, so we will probably evolve to some kind of mixed situation.
@@windwaker8985 English is losing ground to German as the unofficial lang of the EU imo.
@@user-ic9vz8sp1x I have never used German outside of the DACH area if I am being honest.
If you try that in NL for example people will even be kind of annoyed.
Junior Software Engineer in the US earns more than Senior Software Engineer in EU 😂
That's why democracy and rule of law always worth it.
You meant "being a colonial settler colony" and "having forcefully placated your neighbours through coercion and coups" right?
@@GWT1m0 no
@@GWT1m0 No, we mean freeing Europe from the Nazis, Asia from the Japanese, South Korea from the Communists, putting a man on the moon and creating the rules-based international order.
@@GWT1m0can't wait to go to that colonial settle colony and make a lot of money in computer engineering eheh
Are you South African? Your accent and style of speaking is very comforting. Could listen to you all day.
The title should be: How America rewards and enhances the world's talent. 😉
Can America steal me? I'm a data analyst
People pursuing their interests is no ‘drain’, it’s a ladder upward…
If you're a highly skilled worker, it's just a no-brainer; the US pays you far more money, you get to keep a lot more of it after taxes, you're wealthy enough that social welfare programs don't matter to you, and your dollar goes a lot further.
Except when there's an economic shock and the company no longer can afford your expertise. Now what. 🤡🧐
@@visceralcinema I paid off my main/2nd house (in 5 years, although the mortgage was for 15 years) while I was unemployed, using my severance and savings, all thanks to good salaries and a diligent savings habit.
@@visceralcinema😂😂 well said!
@@visceralcinemapeople seem to be taking that deal tho
As an American you can really realize how many important roles are performed by immigrants. My movement disorder doctor is from Eastern Europe, and if she wasn't here idk what I'd do since she's the only doctor capable of treating my condition without travelling far. On a side note she's also incredible at what she does.
As a Swiss I earn about the same as my us colleagues in new york and the Bay area.
But I guess we attract talent from european countries too.
On the other hand the lower paid european locations have job security, which higher paid locations don't have at all.
switzerland is small in size and population so the numbers will be less of people coming here
US: pays people better than most countries even in Europe, gives true freedom, very secure, in general one if the safest countries, the richest countries, and so on and so forth.
Europe: wHy Do pEoPlE lEaVe? wE aRe AmAzInG tOo!(at least in their heads).
No hate to Europe, but just think before you complain. Some European countries are amazing to work and live in. It's just that the USA does 95% of things better. Saying it as a Russian.
Teslas ceo is overseas born chairmen dell company is from canada and the owner of blomberg have ancestry from russia
Ancestry doesn't mean anything.
@@OneOfThoseTypesbecause you said so
@@jaylooppworld381 You should be proud of where you come from instead of clinging onto the US.
Ummm, Michael Dell was born in Houston?
Well one word “capitalism” at its finest. I mean it’s not really stealing because America did not force them to work in USA.
Except the nazi scientists. Also, Europe has capitalism too, don’t pretend the USA is the only country with capitalism too
@@Flint-g4h who is pretending? The reason why I mentioned USA it’s because it’s the subject on the thumbnail. But it’s just reality if one can get paid more on the same exact job that one is doing why not move. If I can get paid more in India then damn straight I’m moving there. “Pretending” 😂
@@Flint-g4h also “Nazi” are war criminals. They’re lucky they get to have a job and get paid instead of lifetime in jail. Of course I’m talking about the Nazi scientists