Investing in Sweden - Nordnet vs Avanza | Life in Sweden

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  • @LivingSwedish
    @LivingSwedish  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I forgot to mention that the best account to open in Sweden is an ISK account (big thanks to everyone who pointed that out in the comments). An ISK account (Investeringssparkonto) in Sweden is a great way to invest because it makes things super easy with a flat tax rate based on your account's value, so you don't have to worry about capital gains tax on each trade. It handles tax reporting automatically, so there's no hassle. Plus, you can invest in a variety of things like stocks, bonds, and ETFs without any lock-in period. It's a flexible and user-friendly option, making it better than traditional investment accounts.
    More details provided by @Loff3t (thank you 🙂): “If you open an ISK/Kapitalförsäkring in Avanza/nordnet or any other place its as of now about 0.88% tax, íts fixed and related to interest rates. So you pay 8800sek tax if port is 1.000.000sek value per year, no matter of the gains. Any other type of account is 30% tax on profit.”

    • @matswinberg5045
      @matswinberg5045 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Good video and that you added info about investment accounts (ISK). ISK might be even more advantegous as the parliament majority have opted to introduce a 300000 SEK tax free limit on ISKs, which means if it comes to pass that you can have upto the equivalent of ca 30 thousand USD tax free on your ISKs. As always, especially in high tax countries like Sweden you need to know how the tax system works. In Nordnet but not in Avanza you can automatically invest montlhly in upto 4 ETFs of your choosing without "courtage".
      ISKs and KFs (capital insurance) are good investing vehicles for those, who like me, like passive income streams in the form of dividends as dividends in ISKs and KFs are not taxed as they are in "normal" accounts (depå in Swedish) with 30%. I have both a KF and ISK in Nordnet and ISK in Avanza. The Nordnet KF refunds foreign tax (normnally 15%)on dividends from foreign investments. In ISKs it is different as you have to request for tax reduction of your foreign tax in your tax form. Therefore it could be better to hold foreign investments in a KF. Note that in KF you do not own the investments (stocks, funds, ETFs etc) it is the brokerage firm that owns them even though you buy and sell in the KF. It is as the name suggests an insurance, if you die, the capital, usually 101% of the amount will go to the benificiary you have stated.
      I will also add that there are some contenders to the popular platforms Avanza and Nordnet. Like savr.se, levler.se, aktieinvest.se and there is also the European brokerage firm DeGiro present in Sweden, degiro.se. DeGiro could be interesting if you are European and perhaps not planning to stay permanently. But beware if you have an ISK and moves from Sweden, then your ISK will convert into a "depå" as only Swedish residents can have ISKs.
      If you want to diversify your investments further into other asset classes there are some crowdfunding platforms like kameo.se and tessin.se. There you can invest in loans to real estate projects.
      Finally, if you are interested in physical precious metals there are a plethora of European websites, for instance tavex.se which I believe is domiciled in Estonia. They also have stores in Stockholm.
      Happy investing!

    • @Nemo-se
      @Nemo-se 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ISK all the way 🙌 Sure you can do some stockpicking too if you want, as a side gig.

    • @brettrickards
      @brettrickards วันที่ผ่านมา

      2025 its up to 150000kr tax free. I spoke with Swedbank yesterday about it.
      I have Swedbank robur technology isk....seems to be making gains
      Anymore tips would be appreciated. I have the same fund in nordnet but wondering if i should diversify......what is your plan of attack?

  • @PerHolmqvist-b1s
    @PerHolmqvist-b1s 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    I started to fondspara for my children (3 boys) when they were born. I put away only sek 200/month each and by their 18th birthday they had each sek 100 000,

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's fantastic!! Thanks for sharing!

    • @HBHD1
      @HBHD1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And now they gonna use it on beers and concerts and weed

    • @solomonobiechina3419
      @solomonobiechina3419 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@HBHD1 haha

  • @SuperCactus99
    @SuperCactus99 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I was also missing a comparison between the different types of accounts you can use to handle your stocks or funds in Sweden, as the taxation may vary depending on what type of account you actually use. (ISK = Investerarsparkonto, AK = Aktiekapitalkonto and finally KF = Kapitalförsäkring.) These types of accounts are available on all banks / platforms.
    Also, if you receive dividends from abroad, a "Kapitalförsäkring" (Capital Insurance) is preferrable in most cases.
    But you can actually have as many and different types of stock/fund accounts as you want.

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for your input! Much appreciated!

  • @tye2077
    @tye2077 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    thank you for your videos! I want to move to Sweden and your videos really help with my research!

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much for your feedback! :)

  • @rakesd
    @rakesd 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thanks! both avanza and nordnet!

  • @chrippao1720
    @chrippao1720 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Great video and subject!

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much for your feedback! :)

  • @ahlsn7346
    @ahlsn7346 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    No mention of ISK which I think is the biggest pro in Sweden. Also a little heads up. IMF just declared SEK to be the worlds most undervalued currency by -17%. If SEK manage to get stronger then you will lose quite a bit of value on just currency conversion if you invest heavily in global companies. US and especially the tech sector have been performing very well by but there are several top investors who think it will be a good idea to put more focus in the Swedish market the coming 1-2 years. I will be doing that my self.

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for sharing!

  • @reka2342
    @reka2342 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi! Do you have a band ID to log in? Because it's a bit difficult to log in as a foreigner.

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes, I have BankID. I think the only other way, if that's even possible, is to verify your identity with a passport. On Nordnet, it says to contact customer service and it's probably the same for Avanza.

  • @BeyondBorders111
    @BeyondBorders111 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Does anyone know if a trader can register a private limited company and trade as a company in Sweden?

  • @megagiststv
    @megagiststv หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great video. Can you make a video on how to use nordnet and avensa to invest, chose stock and make a withdrawal

  • @JustMWest
    @JustMWest 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can I ask why you started investing with Nordnet if you already had Avanza? I'm trying to decide which one to start with.

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I didn't really know about Nordnet when I started Avanza. I wanted to try out Nordnet as well and made this account for my children although it's still in my name. It was mainly curiosity 😊 Maybe have a look at the different funds (or shares) on each platform to make a decision 📈

  • @pavolkubecka2698
    @pavolkubecka2698 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hey Uli, this is an interesting video. I have no idea how investing works but I`m interested in to invest. I wonder whether you could recommend any videos for beginners.. Also can I ask how it works if you want to take money out from your investment? And is there any risk that you can lose all your money?

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I recommend this TH-cam channel: www.youtube.com/@DamienTalksMoney/videos and these books "The Psychology of Money" and "Unshakeable: Your Guide to Financial Freedom Your Guide to Financial Freedom". I personally only invest in funds because they're diverse and therefore the risk is lower (but there is always a risk). Also look up S&P500. Good luck!

  • @audy.2023
    @audy.2023 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    can you please do a detailed video about investigating for kids much appreciated thank you

  • @AdvocateOfJamaica
    @AdvocateOfJamaica 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How much (what percentage) do they tax your capital gains in Sweden?

    • @Loff3t
      @Loff3t 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      If you open an ISK/Kapitalförsäkring in Avanza/nordnet or any other place its as of now about 0.88% tax, íts fixed and related to interest rates. So you pay 8800sek tax if port is 1.000.000sek value per year, no matter of the gains. Any other type of account is 30% tax on profit.

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Glad you already got a reply 🙏

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for replying to this question! Very much appreciated :)

    • @AdvocateOfJamaica
      @AdvocateOfJamaica 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Loff3t Thanks for answering my question.

  • @Rix.67
    @Rix.67 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This banks...is not the 'regular' banks in Sweden

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wouldn't invest with a traditional bank. They charge higher fees and are not very transparent.

  • @HassanAdisa-sk7wi
    @HassanAdisa-sk7wi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm eager to explore investment opportunities, but I'm uncertain about the first steps. Can you offer any guidance or introduce me to someone in your network who could provide valuable insights and support?

  • @MattiasHenriksson-sw7xw
    @MattiasHenriksson-sw7xw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Didn’t know about the language. That is a weakness of Avanza to be fair. I prefer Avanza but I am swedish.
    Both these platforms are very good in my opinion. They are independent and does the same thing.
    The main thing is these are way better than the platforms of, for exemple, the platforms of individual Banks who basically has a much smaller stock to choose from, are more expensive, are not independent and biased to sell their own products which often are worse.
    The most important thing though, is to start invest at all. Many many people does not do this. And you can do it in what manner you want and you prefer or think is fun.
    The best adviceI like to give befinner who don’t has a lot of knowledge and/or dont wanna spend alot of time is to use a fond robot. There are many good ones and often gives as good results as doing an extensive work oneself.

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I totally agree! Thanks for sharing! :)

  • @lifelearner10
    @lifelearner10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nordnet is far better, especially because we can operate in English! It’s unbelievable that Avanza still “refusing” to have a English version.

  • @uverex251
    @uverex251 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Congratulation on your hard work!!! Remember there's Bitcoin also for investment!!!

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Ah, I'm not a fan of Bitcoin. It's too risky for me but I understand people invest in Bitcoin.

  • @rakeshmenon3296
    @rakeshmenon3296 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great content, but wish you weren’t repeating same information again and again which makes me fast forward to actual useful content

  • @Burningarrow7
    @Burningarrow7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Leave it to Swedes to not make a trading app in English aswell. Still living in their tiny little worlds

  • @xentrosdedsa9772
    @xentrosdedsa9772 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Nordnet its shit !!.

    • @LivingSwedish
      @LivingSwedish  29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks for sharing! I want to know more!