Because no disrespect to Linus but I bet they weren't thinking he was going to be so professional and on point. He bossed it like "this is what I do" lmfao
This video is gonna get a lot of views. Even if it means destroying a 4k$ laptop (which is not the case) it's still a very cheap advertisement for Alienware it's great investment
My problem with that is that whenever you try to desolder something else on the board that is close to the ram which results in the ram solder melting which breaks the ram.
@@OSODELANOXXE I unfortunately havnt heard any updates on the lawsuit! I agree we were duped and I think once dell realized they couldnt deliver instead of appologizeing and recalling due to many failed units with overheating they knowingly throttled us to avoid having to recall! Linus needs to help us out here and retouch on the problems with this laptop! Its looking like Dell got away with this and that will tell them they can keep lying and getting away with it:( lost me as a customer!
Goes to CES 2019, ends up somehow tearing apart Alienware's brand new flagship notebook on a random table and then leaves them to put it all back together while riding an imaginary horse. Give that man a cookie!!
Reminds me of the stories I have heard, where cops asked a driver if they could search his car, the guy gave permission, the cops totally emptied out the car on the side of the road and didn't find anything, and the cops just left the guy to put all his stuff back in the car by himself. Or, the ones where the driver gives the cops permission to search, and the cops physically destroy the seats, dash, carpet, etc. while looking for contraband, and when the driver protests, the cops just tell him "You gave us permission."
9:10 *Announces after he's taken almost the entire thing apart* that he's just going to leave and let them put it back together on their own time. 9:14 They all laugh. 9:16 then they realize "oh he's serious" XD The lady in the red is great with that smile. She's still kind of waiting for Linus to come back and put it back together. XD
@@JuryDutySummons They make some micro desktops, and many other relatively small desktops, and could likely be attempting to move them all to something like this.
Doesn't everything become outdated within a year? Buying a computer is almost not even a worthwhile investment anymore they become useless so fast. If computers start advancing too quickly, people will quit buying because whatever they buy now will become outdated far too quickly. The computer development industry will probably crash, and computers will stop advancing for the forseeable future. At the very least, the progression may slow down as fewer people are involved in it.
*You guys need to hand the dbrand Prism over to the least phone-techy video-cleared person on your team, and have them clean the screens and apply it to a few phones.* Let us see if the protector and applicator really holds up to its promises. Also do blind tests around the office comparing feel to glass protectors. *If(!)* precise and bubble-free application is actually as easy as they claim, this thing needs way more promotion.
After doing some screen protectors for other people, gotten to the point only 2 have ever had bubbles and both on the cheap plastic covers, the rest have gone down bubble free, it is the alignment that is good to spot on that is the harder part.
@@wobblysauce My personal experience, and from feedback from friends and family, is that the rigid glass protectors are easier to deal with if flat. The curved ones, not quite. Those few that has silicon adhesive on the entire protector anyway, those with only a thin strip around the outer edges are easier, but they're also pretty shaite in use. Alignment is always a challenge. On many models, even if the screen is "flat" it had a slight curve at the very end towards the bezels, so if you get it half a mm off, you get an air (->dust&grime)gap. One of the difficulties I've seen for novices with softer protectors, including myself, is time. To align it well, apply it while working out any small bubbles underway, it takes enough time that dust or fibre particles in the air reach the screen or protector. And we've all had poor success with the do-it-in-the-bathroom-after-running-the-shower technique. Some people seem just better adept at it, some get a lot of training. But nost people have only put on a few, or none at all (themselves). Adding to that, these brand-name protectors tend to be rather expensive, so you'll be wanting to get a satisfactory result on the first go if possible, not order a 3-pack. If this alignment arrangement can help this in a serious manner, it may very well be worth its premium for us mere screen protector muggles and mortals. Especially if they do full-cover for curved screens. And I'm kinds hoping this thing works out, dbrand has a good track record for precision. Lets see if that can transfer well to this kind of user application. TheStaniG Maybe - Janice might be a wizkid with smartphones, we don't know yet. I think(?)
Only idiots buy Android phone as they slow down within a week of use to the point where it's unusable. iPhones are the most innovative phones as they are the best in every way and never slow down no matter what.
Well, his channel is among the biggest (if not the biggest, honestly no other comes to mind) tech dedicated ones in TH-cam; JayZTwoCents, Bitwit, Gamers Nexus... None of them have the coverage and reach Linus has achieved (largely due to its own company, the LMG) so, yeah, you could say he's something of a celebrity ^^
I could imagine being friends with Linus, and as we're just chatting and having a normal conversation he just segues right in to a DBrand ad and then slips right back in to the topic at hand. lol
@@skullrazor limited stock that gets finished quickly, cheaper alternaties similar to their top products available at Amd, overall bitterness from geeks just to name a few
@@j0p3s But if you get the Clevo you must get it from specific sellers or you wont get unlocked Prema bios. The unlocked Prema bioses are installed only at authorized sellers factories.
@@j0p3s 51m has the BIOS Locked or you're just guessing???. I don't know Alienware 17r4 or Alienware 17r5 has the bios locked but I still can overclock both CPU and GPU in these things. Don't know what you're talking about???. The CPU or GPU can't overclock??. Can you tell me???.
Linus.... how short is your memory? Yes, we did have DTR laptops that were completely upgradable. Alienware sold them just a couple years ago! The entire m18X line. The former m17x line. The former m15x. The Alienware 17. ALL had upgradable CPUs, GPUs, Hard drives, etc. Not to mention the fact that Clevo, Sager, MSI, and Lenovo *ALL* currently sell laptops that are upgradable. Best part is, they all use MXM. They didn't feel the need to re-invent the wheel.
Except they need to re invent the wheel when the company that made the wheel stopped making them. You can't build a new laptop with mxm anymore thanks to Nvidia. Also mxm never changed the display out puts.
@@Ravenousjoe Trust Nvidia to try and kill and industry standard. And thanks to them having a de-facto monopoly they can probably get away with it too. If they had actual competition that anyone cared about, they wouldn't have gotten very far trying to kill the standard unilaterally. But... They don't, so here we are...
@@KuraIthys if the RX line up didn't take so much power, we would have actually seen them in laptops in these past few years, but unfortunately that is not the case.
@@Ravenousjoe So explain this. Instead of saying "Fuck it, we will build our own MXM cards" Dell said "How about a proprietary format?". Which one of those makes sense? Noting here, nvidia wasn't the only company using MXM cards. AMD has them as well. It isn't like MXM is proprietary to Nvidia.
Dungeon Blaster it's not gg Alienware have been doing this for years from 2008 with their m1x series. Linus just overhyped this and obviously never opened a laptop like this. There's many people doing crazy things on a desktop replacement Alienwares with custom water-cooled heatsink.
I just ordered the R2 version of this machine. I decided to opt for the NVIDIA RTX 2070 Super for the more open architecture and higher storage space potential than the sleeker, thinner Alienware M17 R3 with the RTX 3070/3080 GPUs that just dropped. And though I know it will be a long time before I have to worry about it, I didn't want to be stuck with RAM chips soldered to the board like it is on the M17. But I wanted to see the inside of this beast with my own eyes before it arrives, because I couldn't be sure I understood what I was reading--that it actually has the potential for a LOOOOT more storage space. I was nervous that it would be *just* two PCIe slots, or *just* one PCIe slot with hard drive bay depending on what configuration you ordered, but no. I work with big graphic files and 3D files as well as gaming, and that is going to be such a Godsend to be able to throw another drive in there. The fact that I now know that I can upgrade the GPU at a later time is...well, it's not just icing on the cake, it's the whole dessert menu. Anyway, I appreciate your enthusiasm in this video, because it certainly let me know I made the right choice. Fun to watch. Can't wait to tear my own open, now!
My 2012 Alienware M17x R4 is still going strong in 2019, after being hauled in over 50 flights across Europe, Asia and North America. The external case is scratched from all the luggage suitcases its been crammed in & thrown around on flights, but the internals & screen, are solid. Also never had to service anything on it (I think a key popped off and i just pushed it back in, once, maybe in 2015?). Dell makes really solid laptops.
>crazy we've had these kind of laptops for a while now, notably with HP's elitebook series where you could upgrade the amount of memory, processor, and graphics card as well with the mxm slot
Laptop's had this longgggg before dell/ alienware. My laptop has the 8700k but like most laptop's the cost of replacing is more expensive then it's worth. The main problem is the GPU'S which if you go like Dell's solution will still cause problems, since you can't know for sure if your motherboard will be able to handle the next generation. MSI did something similar but they used mxm GPU'S instead of there own solution, they quickly dropped the idea since each refresh meant slight changes per motherboard.
1:29 what's that random flashing frame mean? it's just Linus holding the laptop PS: Wait, did Alienware not want you to show it's thiccness but you did it anyway with that frame? 😅
It's because the B-roll just gets plopped on top of the A-roll without actually deleting it, and the clips were placed on the timeline incorrectly, leaving one exposed frame between shots.
@Warrior261 no...wrong. And its not 2080 Ti, just a standard 2080 but with 8Gb memory. It's almost same performance as the standard desktop, mayne 1-5% slower, but in some games this laptop will beat shit out of dekstop 2080 pc.
That thing looks awesome, and the specs are totally good enough to replace a desktop system. Bet that battery gives a good 10 to 20 minutes of runtime too! Bonus points to Linus for not dropping it :-)
1) I can’t believe they made a laptop that is upgradable in so many ways. 2) I can’t believe that let Linus (aka Captain Butterfingers) hold it and disassemble it.
Upgradeable and laptop are two words I usually don't use in the same sentence really. That is because some of them have very few if any parts that can be upgraded. Like RAM for example, it is often at its limit in some laptops. Then the GPU, I never had a lap top in which I could upgrade that ever even though I know that some have the slot for it. Most laptops I buy are cheap and sell for around $400. It gets you a laptop that is usable for anything except games and video editing (simply because of the heat it would generate if used for those things).
I really want to see more laptops like this, future proof laptops not only brings a good opportunity for competition in the pc market, but also allows for the benefits of a laptop without the shortcomings.
ASM Kalrizion these kind of thing already exists from long long time ago, the current standards for laptop gpu were 3.0 for low watt laptops and 3.1 for higher watt laptops. forum.notebookreview.com/threads/successful-mxm-gpu-upgraded-laptops.805136/
ASM Kalrizion please note that this laptop were the successor of the m17x r4 2012 That thing still able to run gtx 1080 at full power with i7 3920xm. forum.notebookreview.com/threads/m17x-r4-with-gtx-1080-gddr5x-8gb.822707/
I don't know if you are suprised, but if you are, let me tell you that for a number of generations, Alienware has been using MXM form factor gpus which are completely upgradeable as long as you have the power for it
True AW used to do MXM. Low quality chips on low quality boards compared to MSI and Clevo, though. Then they dropped it completely (apart from lower power Precision workstation GPUs) and went all BGA soldered which is why the 15 and 17 now has a reputation as fragile, underperforming, overpriced shiny thin junk. Alienware have also been careful to state the intent is for *replaceable* graphics, not *upgradeable*... go read about the trouble that their "upgradeable" promise got MSI into a couple of years back when they refused to honour that for 10 series GPUs
linus cat tips is linus's second channel which was created after ltt(linus tech tips) which was made way before linus cat tips and ltt is in no way a rip-off of linus cat tips to think that it is a rip-off means you are dumber than my pet rock and there is no fucking way linus will delete his channel just because of one comment so *SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!*
I bought a Alienware laptop a few years back and it had throttling issues from the get go and I could only play games on low settings when the system was rated for medium to high settings of which I was only going to set it to medium settings anyways to prolong its lifespan. I brought it to an authorized Dell PC repair shop and they couldn't find out why it was throttling. So they suggested to buy a GPU upgrade from Dell. I contacted Dell and bought a GPU upgrade and when the card came I brought it to the authorized PC repair shop and they installed it for free because they couldn't solve the throttling issue. They tested it and it still had the same throttling issue. So, I tried a different PC shop and they found that the throttling issue was programmed into the BIOS itself and said that they could try to update the BIOS to get rid of the throttling so I gave them the go head to do so. A few days later they called me and gave me bad news, my Alienware laptop became a brick. The PC shop offered to gave me a used decent laptop for free because they bricked my Alienware which was pretty cool of them. I then contacted Dell and they told me that they couldn't give me a replacement, or give me a different one of equal value or even a refund because I brought the laptop to an unauthorized repair shop. I will never trust Dell or alienware again!
Glad to see this make a comeback. I remember upgrading the CPU and GPU in my old inspiron 9300. We know Dell can do this sort of thing since they have done it for years, don't act so shocked for that reason, but I am surprised and impressed that they are being so pro consumer here. We need up-gradable laptops like this to make a comeback.
To be honest - I'm ready to buy, but there is no way I'm buying another 1080 pixel screen - as that is the ONE thing I will be stuck unable to change. And don't give me all that 'plug it into a monitor cr@P', I have a Desktop PC at home already. So again, I wait....
@@keon5779 Use Intel XTU, set Core Voltage Offset to -0.085v This is a process known as undervolting. Lowers temps by 10 Celsius with no performance hit, might cause crashing. I'm the long run, do a repaste with Artic Silver 5. Pm me for my discord account and maybe I can help you out, I had to customize windows to create a custom power plan. Now I see 50-60 Celsius.
That particular unit was disassembled many times during the course of all the demonstrations during CES which probably caused the paste to look like a $20 hooker’s pussy after a truck stop orgy. I’ll still be replacing the compound with arctic anyway.
This is unbelievable. Imagine 10 years into the future, we'll have 128GB worth of ram, 1PB in terms of SSD M.2 storage, a core i11 (if they exist) and dual RTX 2080TI's with 20GB on each card... as an available option for those who love overkill, all in a laptop! Made super "easy", by your friends at Alienware! Have you guys seen their overkill pc towers? :D
I used to own an Alienware upgradable laptop. It had 2 hard drives 2 graphics cards I think. but it was a beast.That was around the time Dell bought them out and none of my laptop could be upgraded after.
For the GPU you need upgrade kits (and maybe CPU as well) from Alienware, but storage and RAM you can put in whatever you want. I went completely overboard with my setup when it comes to RAM and CPU, but opted for RTX 2060 and only 500 gigs of storage. I should've gone all out, but I figured if I will be using it for work and for gaming, to have it as light as possible, and if push comes to shove, I can upgrade later. Until then, I got myself a 1TB external SSD to keep games on and I keep that one at home, as do I the sencond power adapter (since at work I'm not gaming but mostly doing programming and I don't need the GPU power). The only problem I have with this laptop is that the backpack for it doesn't exist except the Alienware branded ones, and I was hoping to get away with a cheaper and more spatious alternative. As for availability of those backpacks, they don't seem to be easily available in my country, which just adds onto the same problem. Sans backpack, the laptop doesn't have any problems (if you know youre hardware and software) except that the thought of opening it up and cleaning it is probably scarier than actually doing it and I haven't done that in a while. All in all, it's an expensive laptop, but I got a great opportunity on it and I'm glad I didn't discard it and finally have a gaming machine of my dreams.
I-Mac have the Option replacing video card a lot of years ago , but it's amazing engenirimg with the option to replace the video inputs with the graphics card !
Linus needs to look into Fujitsu's N-Series laptops. Fully upgrade-able, and the best tech support and customer service of any tech company I've ever dealt with, every time I've ever dealt with them. The only downside, is how hard it is to actually find someone selling them.
When Dell allows you to take apart their latest $$$$$ gadget "live", on camera... It kind of shows what a great reputation you built not only in the eyes of the manufacturers, but also in the eyes of the customers. They don't mind the "inconvenience" as they know they will get a fair opinion that the customers will take seriously. Well done Linus! Honestly.
No, it tells that Dell is confident in their unique device and show you that it's actually different. It's marketing, it's not about reputation with Linus.
@@fishywtf yes it's marketing and yes dell is confident about it, but can you show me any other youtubers allowed to do this much extensive search on their laptop in CES 2019. Do you know why? Because he got the reputation of 7.9 million subscribers. Don't be so stupid 😏
Aww, the lady wanted to clap at the end. :D
@@potato_x69 nice username. :)
Because no disrespect to Linus but I bet they weren't thinking he was going to be so professional and on point. He bossed it like "this is what I do" lmfao
Lol, people actually watch the sponsor bit at the end? :)).
I had to skip it to see what you're talking about 😂
@@potato_x69 I remember when it was just "Potato"...those were the days.
Linus waifu must be secretly jelaous ;)
i love how they let you really tear it down. impressive.
Only because its Linus
They really have no choice when it comes to Linus
This video is gonna get a lot of views. Even if it means destroying a 4k$ laptop (which is not the case) it's still a very cheap advertisement for Alienware it's great investment
It’s Linus. He would disassembled it anyway so they had not so many options ^^
They clearly haven’t watched enough Linus lol
*Meanwhile Apple casually solders their RAM into the motherboard*
My problem with that is that whenever you try to desolder something else on the board that is close to the ram which results in the ram solder melting which breaks the ram.
Soldering RAM saves a bit of space, but i'm not sure wether that's really the reason why Apple does it.
Jeremy Stig , it’s because when ever you want to upgrade, you’d have to trade it in for a better product.
@@jeremystig98 it helps with making a better connection and saving space and weight...
@Miguel Ortega nope
this is how all laptops should be: upgradeable, repairable and recyclable
Agreed, I had my Area51M R2 arrive the other day and honestly...all I can say is Dell did this thing right.
Sad to realize that laptops are made to be disposable
@「 InSanic 」 yes
no they did not delivered www.mahanyertl.com/2020/dell-alienware-area-51-class-action-investigation/
@@OSODELANOXXE I unfortunately havnt heard any updates on the lawsuit! I agree we were duped and I think once dell realized they couldnt deliver instead of appologizeing and recalling due to many failed units with overheating they knowingly throttled us to avoid having to recall! Linus needs to help us out here and retouch on the problems with this laptop! Its looking like Dell got away with this and that will tell them they can keep lying and getting away with it:( lost me as a customer!
We're just gonna ignore the RGB chair in the back???
EDIT : Damn 600 likes 0_0
where r u people on insta when i need you? =(
I know right, I saw that chair in the background and was like (͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
But it probably can't do This tho
RGB is so 2018, get with the times man.
Yes
Well after razer chair with vibration, Linus forgot rgb chair.
Goes to CES 2019, ends up somehow tearing apart Alienware's brand new flagship notebook on a random table and then leaves them to put it all back together while riding an imaginary horse. Give that man a cookie!!
giddy up cowboys, yeeeeee
but did he really leave it like that though.
Reminds me of the stories I have heard, where cops asked a driver if they could search his car, the guy gave permission, the cops totally emptied out the car on the side of the road and didn't find anything, and the cops just left the guy to put all his stuff back in the car by himself.
Or, the ones where the driver gives the cops permission to search, and the cops physically destroy the seats, dash, carpet, etc. while looking for contraband, and when the driver protests, the cops just tell him "You gave us permission."
Editors did an *OOPSIE* 1:29
I got the right frame. Is Linus olding the "laptop".
*OOPSIE DOOPSIES*
Linus Drop Techs
1:28 @.25x
That’s adobe premiere for ya
9:10 *Announces after he's taken almost the entire thing apart* that he's just going to leave and let them put it back together on their own time.
9:14 They all laugh.
9:16 then they realize "oh he's serious" XD
The lady in the red is great with that smile. She's still kind of waiting for Linus to come back and put it back together. XD
eeeweeee
@@raman_Dead Reeee year old comment reeee.
1:52 *When you thought you were watching LTT but then it turned into JerryRigEverything*
But no bend test ☹
@@potato_x69 i see you everywhere
Evariste Galois I watch you
scratches at lvl 6 with deeper grooves at lvl 7
The RGB chair in the back 😂😂
*More like a portable desktop*
J.G Jonny we reached that amazing point in technology to do just that.
It's not even that big
this straight up should be a case standard. Dell should lobby the ATX/ITX people for inclusion.
@@bootmii98 Will never happen, Dell are notorious for not sharing there proprietary hardware standards.
I mean, isn't that what the end goal of laptops supposed to be? A portable desktop?
that GPU upgrade module program will be discontinued faster than dennis grabbing unguarded computer peripherals around the studio
Sadly, I agree. Only way this doesn't happen is if they sell a ton of these laptops and/or they add this concept into their flagship products.
@@JuryDutySummons They make some micro desktops, and many other relatively small desktops, and could likely be attempting to move them all to something like this.
It wouldn't be the first time that this would happen. My msi notebook with a 980m was planned to be upgradeable too but yeah, no... 😅
😂
Doesn't everything become outdated within a year? Buying a computer is almost not even a worthwhile investment anymore they become useless so fast. If computers start advancing too quickly, people will quit buying because whatever they buy now will become outdated far too quickly. The computer development industry will probably crash, and computers will stop advancing for the forseeable future. At the very least, the progression may slow down as fewer people are involved in it.
Him- "What size do you feel comfortable with?"
Her- 10:12
Him- "Okay, never mind."
You nailed it
10:10 me when I try to start an applause
Chek out my montage
Not the right moment.
th-cam.com/video/lEHKa2iF95s/w-d-xo.html
0:49 "so *IT'S* can be equipped with.." LMFAO
He got so carried away that he lost his English 😄 Too bad there's no CES in 2020 cause everytime Linus's something to behold.
*You guys need to hand the dbrand Prism over to the least phone-techy video-cleared person on your team, and have them clean the screens and apply it to a few phones.* Let us see if the protector and applicator really holds up to its promises. Also do blind tests around the office comparing feel to glass protectors. *If(!)* precise and bubble-free application is actually as easy as they claim, this thing needs way more promotion.
After doing some screen protectors for other people, gotten to the point only 2 have ever had bubbles and both on the cheap plastic covers, the rest have gone down bubble free, it is the alignment that is good to spot on that is the harder part.
Looks like Janice is going to make another appearance...
@@wobblysauce My personal experience, and from feedback from friends and family, is that the rigid glass protectors are easier to deal with if flat. The curved ones, not quite. Those few that has silicon adhesive on the entire protector anyway, those with only a thin strip around the outer edges are easier, but they're also pretty shaite in use. Alignment is always a challenge. On many models, even if the screen is "flat" it had a slight curve at the very end towards the bezels, so if you get it half a mm off, you get an air (->dust&grime)gap. One of the difficulties I've seen for novices with softer protectors, including myself, is time. To align it well, apply it while working out any small bubbles underway, it takes enough time that dust or fibre particles in the air reach the screen or protector. And we've all had poor success with the do-it-in-the-bathroom-after-running-the-shower technique. Some people seem just better adept at it, some get a lot of training. But nost people have only put on a few, or none at all (themselves). Adding to that, these brand-name protectors tend to be rather expensive, so you'll be wanting to get a satisfactory result on the first go if possible, not order a 3-pack. If this alignment arrangement can help this in a serious manner, it may very well be worth its premium for us mere screen protector muggles and mortals. Especially if they do full-cover for curved screens. And I'm kinds hoping this thing works out, dbrand has a good track record for precision. Lets see if that can transfer well to this kind of user application.
TheStaniG Maybe - Janice might be a wizkid with smartphones, we don't know yet. I think(?)
Only idiots buy Android phone as they slow down within a week of use to the point where it's unusable. iPhones are the most innovative phones as they are the best in every way and never slow down no matter what.
3 Arc You trolling?
I must admit, at 0:32 I was immediately distracted by that glowing-azz chair!
lol. i even paused and googled rgb gaming chairs. :P is it vertagear?
9:09 damn what a savage
Linus is a celebrity now, isn't he?
Well, his channel is among the biggest (if not the biggest, honestly no other comes to mind) tech dedicated ones in TH-cam; JayZTwoCents, Bitwit, Gamers Nexus... None of them have the coverage and reach Linus has achieved (largely due to its own company, the LMG) so, yeah, you could say he's something of a celebrity ^^
Almost 8 million subs for a “tech” channel. So... yeah.
no no no he is not a celeb his car is the celeb he would be no where if it wasnt for that pink bad boy car he has
I could imagine being friends with Linus, and as we're just chatting and having a normal conversation he just segues right in to a DBrand ad and then slips right back in to the topic at hand. lol
I was completely distracted by the chair with lights in the background.... Anyone else?
THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS 😀
Oh no, I didn’t notice till you said that. Thanks a lot.
i was like o sweet that chair kind of lucks off some off what he said
Are you always carrying your tool?
Are you not?
@@TokeBoisen tools are gonna be handy while traveling 😅
i thought he was the tool.
You never know when you'll need it.
In my pants.
10:10 that's how i try to escape from my responsibilities
2:30 in the morning. Thank you Linus very cool.
12:30 here
2:30 PM here rn
2 54 PM here
6:55pm for me in my town in Australia
@Jermore Fortin 4 now. i'm still up ffs
8:11
"As long as Nvidia has its way"
That did not age well
why what happened?
@@skullrazor limited stock that gets finished quickly, cheaper alternaties similar to their top products available at Amd, overall bitterness from geeks just to name a few
@@nonowords7857 Dont forget Dell was not able to develop 30 series version for the GPU modules
@@mcslender2965 yep
I wouldn't spend that kind of money on a laptop but I'm excited at what this technology could mean for future laptops.
Alienware Area 51 vs Asus Mothership??
Get a Clevo. Alienware has the BIOS locked so bye bye overclock. Clevo you can get an unlocked BIOS and better community support at NoteBookReview :D
@@j0p3s But if you get the Clevo you must get it from specific sellers or you wont get unlocked Prema bios. The unlocked Prema bioses are installed only at authorized sellers factories.
Anunakis approbe, U get it? Probe.... hahahhaah
clevo is tied to mxm. upgrading mxm is difficult and expensive.
@@j0p3s 51m has the BIOS Locked or you're just guessing???. I don't know Alienware 17r4 or Alienware 17r5 has the bios locked but I still can overclock both CPU and GPU in these things. Don't know what you're talking about???. The CPU or GPU can't overclock??. Can you tell me???.
What is the chair to the right? It looks raw af
RGB Chair it's called Gamdias I think
Thanks ERMmisfit
Ikr?!?!!!!
Its Alienware branded chair, as well as the rgb backpack! maybe an upcoming announcement to come?!
As a constant laptop user, this announcement was the highlight of CES. Thanks for the super early teardown, I'm hyped for the release.
Sadly, this video aged like spoiled milk.
does that chair in the background have rgb?
Thta's the only impressive thing in this video!
sadly yes
Yes
Linus.... how short is your memory? Yes, we did have DTR laptops that were completely upgradable. Alienware sold them just a couple years ago! The entire m18X line. The former m17x line. The former m15x. The Alienware 17. ALL had upgradable CPUs, GPUs, Hard drives, etc. Not to mention the fact that Clevo, Sager, MSI, and Lenovo *ALL* currently sell laptops that are upgradable. Best part is, they all use MXM. They didn't feel the need to re-invent the wheel.
The MSI GT83 supposedly was to have graphics upgrade kits. Same was to happen with their GT72. That never came to fruition.
Except they need to re invent the wheel when the company that made the wheel stopped making them.
You can't build a new laptop with mxm anymore thanks to Nvidia. Also mxm never changed the display out puts.
@@Ravenousjoe Trust Nvidia to try and kill and industry standard. And thanks to them having a de-facto monopoly they can probably get away with it too.
If they had actual competition that anyone cared about, they wouldn't have gotten very far trying to kill the standard unilaterally.
But... They don't, so here we are...
@@KuraIthys if the RX line up didn't take so much power, we would have actually seen them in laptops in these past few years, but unfortunately that is not the case.
@@Ravenousjoe So explain this. Instead of saying "Fuck it, we will build our own MXM cards" Dell said "How about a proprietary format?". Which one of those makes sense? Noting here, nvidia wasn't the only company using MXM cards. AMD has them as well. It isn't like MXM is proprietary to Nvidia.
GG dell. Thank you for actually moving laptop tech forward in a meaningful way. Ok, now this is ACTUALLY epic.
Dungeon Blaster it's not gg
Alienware have been doing this for years from 2008 with their m1x series. Linus just overhyped this and obviously never opened a laptop like this.
There's many people doing crazy things on a desktop replacement Alienwares with custom water-cooled heatsink.
I just ordered the R2 version of this machine. I decided to opt for the NVIDIA RTX 2070 Super for the more open architecture and higher storage space potential than the sleeker, thinner Alienware M17 R3 with the RTX 3070/3080 GPUs that just dropped. And though I know it will be a long time before I have to worry about it, I didn't want to be stuck with RAM chips soldered to the board like it is on the M17. But I wanted to see the inside of this beast with my own eyes before it arrives, because I couldn't be sure I understood what I was reading--that it actually has the potential for a LOOOOT more storage space. I was nervous that it would be *just* two PCIe slots, or *just* one PCIe slot with hard drive bay depending on what configuration you ordered, but no. I work with big graphic files and 3D files as well as gaming, and that is going to be such a Godsend to be able to throw another drive in there. The fact that I now know that I can upgrade the GPU at a later time is...well, it's not just icing on the cake, it's the whole dessert menu.
Anyway, I appreciate your enthusiasm in this video, because it certainly let me know I made the right choice. Fun to watch. Can't wait to tear my own open, now!
Damn, kudos to Dell! "Dude." Major respect. 8:43
No Sleep?
💁♂️That’s how Linus works
Scheduled videos....
My 2012 Alienware M17x R4 is still going strong in 2019, after being hauled in over 50 flights across Europe, Asia and North America. The external case is scratched from all the luggage suitcases its been crammed in & thrown around on flights, but the internals & screen, are solid. Also never had to service anything on it (I think a key popped off and i just pushed it back in, once, maybe in 2015?). Dell makes really solid laptops.
Posted at 12:30 in the morning
1:30 for me. WHY SO EARLY?!?!?
I know right wtf
@@fang_halo3449 I dont know, might be that he's in Canada
Haha amateurs it was uploaded at 3:30 for me.
Time zones weird flex but ok.
Big thumbs up to Dell n Alienware for letting you take the thing apart on the show floor!
Very cool of them to let you do that.
They have thousands , what do they care ? They just send it back to their factory !
@@gertjanvandermeij4265 Ask Apple what they care
idk if its me or am I looking at that RGB chair in the background
>crazy
we've had these kind of laptops for a while now, notably with HP's elitebook series where you could upgrade the amount of memory, processor, and graphics card as well with the mxm slot
take a search of clevo , p750tm1 p775tm1 p870tm1 will blow your mind
that ending tho
For the First time I saw a upgradable laptop 😲
Laptop's had this longgggg before dell/ alienware. My laptop has the 8700k but like most laptop's the cost of replacing is more expensive then it's worth. The main problem is the GPU'S which if you go like Dell's solution will still cause problems, since you can't know for sure if your motherboard will be able to handle the next generation. MSI did something similar but they used mxm GPU'S instead of there own solution, they quickly dropped the idea since each refresh meant slight changes per motherboard.
Upgradeable laptops have been out for more than a decade. Just not marketed properly
My Lenovo T430 is very upgradeable for a 2012 model. :D
probably sounds like a jet engine when running anything intensive though, cool concept but you’ll probably need earmuffs when actually gaming with it
MXM has been a thing for years. Funny how Dell chose not to use it.
I remember 2006, when I thought I would be able to upgrade my Clevo laptop. The next year the GPU interface standard was changed.
1:29 what's that random flashing frame mean? it's just Linus holding the laptop
PS: Wait, did Alienware not want you to show it's thiccness but you did it anyway with that frame? 😅
It's because the B-roll just gets plopped on top of the A-roll without actually deleting it, and the clips were placed on the timeline incorrectly, leaving one exposed frame between shots.
tired editor, I guess
th-cam.com/video/J-RXqNafscs/w-d-xo.html
apple should take some lessons
Apple could care less about gaming they strive off ripping people off
Not gaming but the specs
Most laptop nowadays have RTXs and i9
Apple? Lmao their i9 goes to 100c at stock speed
@@RizLazey wrong...it goes 100 C at lower than stock speed...lol
@@alanherrera5421 That is how caramelized apples made.
you know youre getting old when you're more facinated by the white keyboard with RGB than the specs.
No, that makes you a fanboy moron. REAL users do not give a rats ass about RGB bullshit marketing hype.
@@wpgspecb r/woosh
@@wpgspecb sadly im not a fan of Dell nor alienware, but i still think it looks cool idiot
KUDOS to DELL for allowing you to do this! :D
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK LINUS and TEAM
I think upgrading the cpu and gpu should be a standard
That's very interesting, imo should be the future of gaming laptops
I laughed harder than I should at The Count when you were removing the screws.
Same here brotha.
Lol? An RTX 2080 Ti with 6Gigs of Gddr6 Memory?
@Warrior261 no...wrong. And its not 2080 Ti, just a standard 2080 but with 8Gb memory. It's almost same performance as the standard desktop, mayne 1-5% slower, but in some games this laptop will beat shit out of dekstop 2080 pc.
I really like HP and Dell, and I work in a computer repair store.
The build quality is almost always nice.
LED chair in the background.😀
Azim Alif $399
That thing looks awesome, and the specs are totally good enough to replace a desktop system. Bet that battery gives a good 10 to 20 minutes of runtime too!
Bonus points to Linus for not dropping it :-)
This kind of power is gonna fit in kids pockets in the future
1) I can’t believe they made a laptop that is upgradable in so many ways. 2) I can’t believe that let Linus (aka Captain Butterfingers) hold it and disassemble it.
Upgradeable and laptop are two words I usually don't use in the same sentence really. That is because some of them have very few if any parts that can be upgraded. Like RAM for example, it is often at its limit in some laptops. Then the GPU, I never had a lap top in which I could upgrade that ever even though I know that some have the slot for it. Most laptops I buy are cheap and sell for around $400. It gets you a laptop that is usable for anything except games and video editing (simply because of the heat it would generate if used for those things).
0:22 that gaming chair looks cool, i wonder were i can buy one....
I really want to see more laptops like this, future proof laptops not only brings a good opportunity for competition in the pc market, but also allows for the benefits of a laptop without the shortcomings.
ASM Kalrizion these kind of thing already exists from long long time ago, the current standards for laptop gpu were 3.0 for low watt laptops and 3.1 for higher watt laptops.
forum.notebookreview.com/threads/successful-mxm-gpu-upgraded-laptops.805136/
ASM Kalrizion please note that this laptop were the successor of the m17x r4 2012
That thing still able to run gtx 1080 at full power with i7 3920xm.
forum.notebookreview.com/threads/m17x-r4-with-gtx-1080-gddr5x-8gb.822707/
ASM Kalrizion so don't be surprised if this laptop would be the next immortal Laptop like m15x 2008 and m17x r4.
When he talks about the laptop i couldn't take my eye's from the chair at right 👀
It's just amazing to see upgradable graphics factor in an ALIENWARE...
I don't know if you are suprised, but if you are, let me tell you that for a number of generations, Alienware has been using MXM form factor gpus which are completely upgradeable as long as you have the power for it
@@carrielam2187 That's just amazing I didn't know about that.
True AW used to do MXM. Low quality chips on low quality boards compared to MSI and Clevo, though. Then they dropped it completely (apart from lower power Precision workstation GPUs) and went all BGA soldered which is why the 15 and 17 now has a reputation as fragile, underperforming, overpriced shiny thin junk. Alienware have also been careful to state the intent is for *replaceable* graphics, not *upgradeable*... go read about the trouble that their "upgradeable" promise got MSI into a couple of years back when they refused to honour that for 10 series GPUs
Linus 2019 CES was awesome
RIP CHANNEL SUPER FUN
looool the termo thermal paste on CPU !! 7:54
This channel is such a rip off of Linus Cat Tips. Delete your account.
linus cat tips is linus's second channel which was created after ltt(linus tech tips) which was made way before linus cat tips and ltt is in no way a rip-off of linus cat tips to think that it is a rip-off means you are dumber than my pet rock and there is no fucking way linus will delete his channel just because of one comment so *SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!!!*
vincent castro r/woooosh
@@minsin56 do you know anything about jokes ?
@@minsin56 aaand that explains why you are not invited to parties :-D
@@minsin56 LMFAO, too bad someone already beat me too r/woosh.
I can see the RGB CHAIR in the back....hahahaha
really like the design of the thing. 65watt CPU would be more convenient though. I hope new models will be made in this form-factor.
yeah and when you launch any game it sounds like a space rocket launch XD
As long as it doesn't throttle that's fine
Yeah, my laptop does that and it's only a 1080. Crazy loud under load.
2/10 not nuff thermal paste.
that Alienware dude smile.... linus took it appart
cough cough! Clevo
I bought a Alienware laptop a few years back and it had throttling issues from the get go and I could only play games on low settings when the system was rated for medium to high settings of which I was only going to set it to medium settings anyways to prolong its lifespan. I brought it to an authorized Dell PC repair shop and they couldn't find out why it was throttling. So they suggested to buy a GPU upgrade from Dell. I contacted Dell and bought a GPU upgrade and when the card came I brought it to the authorized PC repair shop and they installed it for free because they couldn't solve the throttling issue. They tested it and it still had the same throttling issue. So, I tried a different PC shop and they found that the throttling issue was programmed into the BIOS itself and said that they could try to update the BIOS to get rid of the throttling so I gave them the go head to do so. A few days later they called me and gave me bad news, my Alienware laptop became a brick. The PC shop offered to gave me a used decent laptop for free because they bricked my Alienware which was pretty cool of them. I then contacted Dell and they told me that they couldn't give me a replacement, or give me a different one of equal value or even a refund because I brought the laptop to an unauthorized repair shop. I will never trust Dell or alienware again!
It would look pretty sick in spacegray or black.
Glad to see this make a comeback. I remember upgrading the CPU and GPU in my old inspiron 9300. We know Dell can do this sort of thing since they have done it for years, don't act so shocked for that reason, but I am surprised and impressed that they are being so pro consumer here. We need up-gradable laptops like this to make a comeback.
To be honest - I'm ready to buy, but there is no way I'm buying another 1080 pixel screen - as that is the ONE thing I will be stuck unable to change.
And don't give me all that 'plug it into a monitor cr@P', I have a Desktop PC at home already.
So again, I wait....
Linus review the GLOWING CHAIR in the background instead cause that's what we're all more interested in lmaoo
Yep, that looks like a Dell thermal paste job.
$100 says if you clean the CPU and re-apply AS-5 you'll drop 20 celcius.
Yep. I have an Alienware laptop and you could cook an egg on top of the keyboard! They get REALLY hot! Over 95 degrees Celsius during gaming.
@@keon5779 Use Intel XTU, set Core Voltage Offset to -0.085v
This is a process known as undervolting. Lowers temps by 10 Celsius with no performance hit, might cause crashing.
I'm the long run, do a repaste with Artic Silver 5. Pm me for my discord account and maybe I can help you out, I had to customize windows to create a custom power plan. Now I see 50-60 Celsius.
That particular unit was disassembled many times during the course of all the demonstrations during CES which probably caused the paste to look like a $20 hooker’s pussy after a truck stop orgy. I’ll still be replacing the compound with arctic anyway.
This is unbelievable. Imagine 10 years into the future, we'll have 128GB worth of ram, 1PB in terms of SSD M.2 storage, a core i11 (if they exist) and dual RTX 2080TI's with 20GB on each card... as an available option for those who love overkill, all in a laptop! Made super "easy", by your friends at Alienware! Have you guys seen their overkill pc towers? :D
But the question is why will you upgrade this thing.
why not? who wants to buy a new three thousand dollar laptop every 5 years when you can just upgrade the gpu and processor yourself?
@@snotellekS that's right bro
@@snotellekS this thing cost much more then 3000
can build 3 game pc for this money
Ask the people in 2050
@@birdymaniac Chances are you can't put your desktop PC in a backpack.
Linus is so smooth in talking. And humble and honest.... truly has a passion for his Job. 👏
I don't know I feel like half of the people who watch LTT also watch *pewdiepie*
Helvete
Wow hola Daw poppy Gloria
@@sugarskullgaming6739 opsie dopsie
Cause they're both the most reliable sources of info in the world.
Everything that Linus knows about "size" and "heat" usually is when it's in his hands becoming a large fire.
boy i cant wait for CES 2020
I have an alienware with an I7-6700HQ and a 8gb GTX 1070 so I am really hype to buy this in 3-4 years
I used to own an Alienware upgradable laptop. It had 2 hard drives 2 graphics cards I think. but it was a beast.That was around the time Dell bought them out and none of my laptop could be upgraded after.
I can't believe he really left them to put it back together
20 minute battery life lol
its nice to see happy excited Linus.. would be nice to see him more often...
when he was talking about the i9 9900k I saw the blue headphones in the background and I was like, those are much better XD
Random frame of Linus holding the laptop at 1:29. lol
I had a 2007 Sager gaming laptop with a desktop cpu and upgradeable gpu!
this thing is a beautiful laptop and I find it hard to believe it has the cooling capabilities for its processor.
For the GPU you need upgrade kits (and maybe CPU as well) from Alienware, but storage and RAM you can put in whatever you want. I went completely overboard with my setup when it comes to RAM and CPU, but opted for RTX 2060 and only 500 gigs of storage. I should've gone all out, but I figured if I will be using it for work and for gaming, to have it as light as possible, and if push comes to shove, I can upgrade later. Until then, I got myself a 1TB external SSD to keep games on and I keep that one at home, as do I the sencond power adapter (since at work I'm not gaming but mostly doing programming and I don't need the GPU power).
The only problem I have with this laptop is that the backpack for it doesn't exist except the Alienware branded ones, and I was hoping to get away with a cheaper and more spatious alternative. As for availability of those backpacks, they don't seem to be easily available in my country, which just adds onto the same problem.
Sans backpack, the laptop doesn't have any problems (if you know youre hardware and software) except that the thought of opening it up and cleaning it is probably scarier than actually doing it and I haven't done that in a while.
All in all, it's an expensive laptop, but I got a great opportunity on it and I'm glad I didn't discard it and finally have a gaming machine of my dreams.
My dad has a car dealership - if that shit slows down you gonna be in serious trouble mister
This really impresses me idc if its beefy the fact that it is upgradable is awsome and will be considering one in the future
Amazing video, and awesome of Dell to let Linus dissect it for us.
I-Mac have the Option replacing video card a lot of years ago , but it's amazing engenirimg with the option to replace the video inputs with the graphics card !
Linus needs to look into Fujitsu's N-Series laptops. Fully upgrade-able, and the best tech support and customer service of any tech company I've ever dealt with, every time I've ever dealt with them. The only downside, is how hard it is to actually find someone selling them.
When Dell allows you to take apart their latest $$$$$ gadget "live", on camera... It kind of shows what a great reputation you built not only in the eyes of the manufacturers, but also in the eyes of the customers. They don't mind the "inconvenience" as they know they will get a fair opinion that the customers will take seriously. Well done Linus! Honestly.
No, it tells that Dell is confident in their unique device and show you that it's actually different. It's marketing, it's not about reputation with Linus.
@@fishywtf yes it's marketing and yes dell is confident about it, but can you show me any other youtubers allowed to do this much extensive search on their laptop in CES 2019. Do you know why? Because he got the reputation of 7.9 million subscribers. Don't be so stupid 😏
@Ejaz PA But But!!!...... its Linus? he could drop His socks and they would break.
He drops a lot, but he doesn't break a lot. He has dbrand socks, the ultimate in foot protection.
@@Rickymcdd 😂😂🤣🤣🙏🙏🙏