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Angry Oregon Residents Want to Move Idaho’s Border | The Daily Show
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ก.ค. 2022
- Oregon has been a blue state for decades, and now its conservative counties want to G.T.F.O.O.: “Get the F**k Out of Oregon.” Ronny Chieng investigates. #DailyShow #Comedy
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As an Oregonian who grew up in NE rural Oregon, we laugh at these guys. They don't realize without Oregon money, they wouldn't have money to have hospitals, schools, or even roads.
Also Oregonian living in a conservative part of the state. Yep, these loons can kick rocks. Their original plan included part of Eastern Oregon, then an unconnected island of area. I'm not a fan of the state being ruled over by Portland, but these people are idiots.
Just conservatives being ridiculous in their logic.
@@TruthOverFear21 Idaho certainly doesn't invest in those things, either.
Move to Idaho and that's what you'll end up with.
You act like Idaho doesn’t have hospitals.
I work in Cannabis in Oregon and all our dispensaries that are near the border are the busiest ones in the state by far. They’re complaining about the legal cannabis stuff in Oregon, yeah, they have it in Idaho too just the illegal version which is worse for conservatives. Conservatives don’t shut up about “freedom” but they directly oppose it. I’m so tired of these uneducated hypocrites
Your post about cannabis reminded me about Nevada's border. How do I know when I about to reach Nevada? When I see CASINOS not far away!
Seriously. It's the main reason anyone goes to Ontario (OR not Canada). Huge chunk of their economy. I feel like the grouchy move the border folks mostly don't live near the border.
I miss PDX ❤️ here in Utah they have been talking about wend over Utah joining wendover, Nevada so they can benefit from taxes from gambling for schools and stuff. But it’s never going to happen. No state wants to give up their land.
And here Mormons don’t like anything they can’t make money off without putting their name on it. we have laws so the church can grow marijuana anonymously, they repealed a law WE VOTED FOR to change it so they can profit!! So much for separation of church and state.
It's still a class 1 drug on the federal level.
If what you're saying is true, a lot of people are taking a helluva risk transporting it over state lines.
Conservatives; “If you don’t like it here, leave!”. Also Conservatives; “I don’t like it here! Change everything just for me and my decreasingly popular values!”
"Idaho said no" is the best thing I heard this week!😂😂😂
Ronny's reaction to "Idaho is the biggest state in the Union" was priceless! 🤣
I'm a Portlander. This issue gets discussed once in a while in local bars, and my main response has been, "But does Idaho want another dry, impoverished area that would double its size with no real tax base?"
Ronny Chieng, you are the first reporter I have seen address this question. Thank you.
Must be nice. The rest of Oregon is virtually forgotten. These chuds are only a symptom of a problem.
Thank you. Why would Idaho want to get involved in this?
@@friendlier Idaho doesn't want our dregs?
I'm on the west side, too, and what I find disheartening is that while these weirdos talk with such bloated pomp, they never discuss the migrant workers or tribal areas out there...and ironically, the "libs" on the west side don't spend enough time listening to their needs either.
It wouldn't work anyway, the internet and 📺 will see to that. When it comes to evading the, proverbial, outside world. In the words of the fictional Borg of Star Trek yarn, "resistance is futile." They will be assimilated to service 🇺🇸 society. Idaho, the final frontier, this is the aspiration of Eastern Washington State, to defiantly move state lines to quell their cultural fears...
How does someone get this much entitlement, to the point where they think they have a right to move literal borders because they don’t wanna move a couple miles
a few decades back the region saw a massive influx of people 'fleeing' civil rights and attempting to create a region that protected 'white rights'. So yeah, that is where these people got so much entitlement, they are literally civil war rejects trying to form an ethnostate because of 'freedom'.
White Trumpers are the downfall of this country.
America.
Yeah. People feel they're entitled to low gas prices more than they do healthcare....
#AngryWhiteMale?
"oh I've been there, it looks virtually worthless" was the funniest thing I've heard all day
I grew up in Idaho and most of my family still lives there. We all watched this and laughed!
What makes it great in the part of Oregon he lives in and why he doesn't want to move to Idaho is the tax benefits he receives from the blue side of Oregon just like eastern Washington.
Yeah, exactly, it's classic have-your-cake-and-eat-it-too thinking that's pretty much running the whole GOP now. There's a similar debate going on in Minnesota where the southern portion wants to join in with Iowa, but oops, doesn't want to lose all the clean water and crop acts that Minnesota's famous for and drive every penny of their agriculture. So you want to get free money and keep your crops healthy... while voting _against_ people getting free money and keeping their crops healthy?
Although at least the Minnesota one carries a little extra weight since, for some Godforsaken reason, Iowa still has that all-important first caucus that essentially determines who our presidential nominees are gonna be.
Yeah. The Idaho guy was like, "No... ! I'm not paying anything for them!" Conservatives really stick together!
I asked the land, the past that decides presidents, and it wants to stay part of Oregon.
If they became part of Idaho they would have Idaho's tax structure.
@@ThatOpalGuy If anyone get's it maybe the indigenous people would like it back? Just saying.
The main problem is that this part of Oregon has a low population and a tiny tax base. Their schools, public infrastructure and public services are subsidized by the more populated part of the state (Portland, Eugene, Medford). They would be a huge drain on the people of Idaho.
Ah ok. That explains it. I was confused as to why Idaho should have to pay Oregon. That makes more sense.
And the irony is that his best-case scenario involves similar areas of California, Nevada and Washington all joining in on this "Greater Idaho."
@@Commandotoad The payment is to pay for all the government buildings such as schools and police stations.
These conservatives live everywhere even upstate ny and parts of California! This isn’t new or novel but it is ridiculous! Either vote to change your government or get tfo.
Medford can't even pay their own bills, but Eugene, Salem and Portland do send money east.
"Dear Idaho, we are total a**holes and we hate everybody. We want you to spend 10 billion dollars to rescue us from the rut we're living in, and we don't want to pay taxes in Idaho either. Because freedom."
Sounds EXACTLY like my ex-brother-in-law.
Are you kidding me? I’m an Oregonian and I’m ashamed of this guy. You don’t like where you live, move!!!! Every day we wake up to hearing Republicans talking crazy BS. They are losing their grip on reality!
It's funny on the surface, but has ominous undertones. Thinking like that is what brought about the Branch Davidians in Waco and the Ruby Ridge episode. And, ultimately, the War Between the States.
And now they think they're going to call a Constitutional Convention and re-write the Constitution.
"They are losing their grip on reality!"
No, they lost it a while ago, and are only getting further and deeper into their own dystopian fantasies.
Living within fiscal means, informed consent, respecting *all* of the Bill of Rights, election integrity, meaningful sanctions for violent criminal behavior...
Yeah, the Republican crazy BS just goes on and on.
That ship has sailed. Trumplickers lost their grip on realty long ago.
As a native Oregonian, I want to move our border to New Zealand
Here, here! Sign me up!
Word!!
pretty sure they don't want you
Why? Big fan of the WEF, huh?
I’ve been wanting to move there. It seems to be a country with compassion for the people!
Conservative: If you don’t like the laws or traditions in the US, leave the country.
Also Conservatives: I don’t like the laws in my state, so the states should take the drastic step of changing borders so I don’t have to move.
I think we should ship all these conservatives to Texas & Florida & then tell them... you are no longer a part of the USA. See ya.
This part. The hypocrisy.
Basically that’s the idea…
I’m mad that people are thinking & doing stuff I don’t like…
change the state boarders to make me feel ok about myself.
@@dee_dee_place that’s exactly what we should do . But More like Texas & Alabama
Projection and Hypocrisy 101: the classic Republican concept
Hey, guess what Conservatives, when I decided that I didn't want to live in Phoenix, AZ anymore, I actually MOVED to Western Oregon. On a side note, I'm so sick of people dumping on Portland all of the time. Phoenix has a much higher homeless and crime problem than Portland, but you don't hear Conservatives saying anything about Phoenix. Gee, I wonder why? 🤔
Because they are hypocrites and can't live without a daily dose of deflection and projection.
Not anymore, Portland is lost. Business is fleeing. 😊
Because saying something about Phoenix would be called racist by people such as yourself. Immigrants commit disproportionate rates of crime. And they are a net negative in regard to tax revenue. The data hurts people's feelings
"Used to be able to walk the streets and stuff now you get shot" - Man someone should have told me. I've been walking the streets of Portland for years not knowing of this imminent danger. Thank you concerned citizen.
I'm a proud Eastern Oregon University graduate and a former 3-year's resident of Idaho. I do remember hearing this kind of crazy talk back in the early '90s; the fact that this has gone so far is in illustration of how weird the current political situation is. Also, the fact that the "leader" seems to be so clueless is especially telling. Moreover, I wonder would he and his followers be willing to give up their "no-sales tax benefit that they get as Oregon residents???
Every state taxes just in different ways. Oregon is a high tax state.
Bend?
Very clueless. I worked in Portland and witnessed their elected officials representing them ALL THE TIME. I even used to meet with the reps from Bend a lot to discuss their needs and situation. They're just mad the ideals of Oregon are changing with newer generations, which they should. That's how life goes.
@@vw8886 but not for sales. They could just live in extended Idaho (theoretically) and drive to proper Oregon for free sales tax. It's what a lot of people from Washington do.
Conservative logic doesn't need to be internally consistent. They are classic "I want to have my cake and eat it too" people. They're just mad that non-land owners get to vote.
I can't believe this is an actual issue. The party mindset that screeches about having ideologies forced upon them thinks it's kosher to just have another state move it's borders to better fit their personal conservative ideologies. Thats some next level idiocy.
so one of the roots of this is that back before the various states joined the US there was a range of proposed states, and when you look at a lot of these 'rearrangement' movements they tend to fall along the borders of one or more of the proposed ones. so just like much of the south is still fighting the civil war, these people are still fighting for 'their' state that never formed.
@@neeneko now that practically makes a lot more sense than just waking up one morning and being like "Im tired of sharing a state with liberals, what if we just move the next states border over."
To be fair, it's not really 'an issue.' It's a bunch of bored aging conservatives looking to leave a legacy by 'fighting against the system', even though they know it's doomed to fail.
I've followed this for a few years and I can't believe it's had enough traction and popularity to be covered in some Portland papers (and now on a comedy central show). But that doesn't make it a viable change to the political landscape.
It also enables the notion that democratic rule was designed to operate on shifty maneuvers- not public discourse and compromise.
Yep
Just like how conservatives are leaving California for Texas and other red states I say bye don't let the door hit you on your way out he should move to his precious Idaho if he loves it so much
Perhaps that will help the red states pay their share in Federal taxes rather than receiving more than they contribute.
@Normie okay and? Less people means better living conditions in California. Less smog, less pollution and best of all less cuckservitives in CA means no Kevin McCarthy and his cucksuckers in California
Tell me you're too poor to move and probably crazy without telling me you're poor and probably crazy.
"I don't wanna move, move the state boarder to me for political reasons!"
Now THAT'S an overbearing sense of entitlement.
"I don't want to have to do anything, but I expect two states to make major changes just for me and my political views."
Typical asinine conservative hypocrisy.
but small govt interference, also handouts are a snowflake mentality, also social services should be cut right? not like gov't should be serving the people......they're so hypocritical XD
@@TheBiggestMoronYouKnow There hasn't been a word, term, or phrase yet invented that can adequately define the depth of their hypocrisy.
Absolutely
I agree, you should check out the asinine liberal hypocrisy I have to put up with. I get the Ronnie Chieng face too
@@Dogen70
Could you give examples of said hypocrisy?? I’m really curious.
As an Oregonian, Thank you for covering this ridiculousness. I love that Ronnie was like "Why don't you just move to Idaho?" because all of us sane Oregonians have been asking that as well.
Can we chip in to pay for their U-Hauls to move them from OR to ID?
@@dee_dee_place I'm sure they could sell their houses or lifted pick-ups they only drive to the grocery store . . . lol
@@dee_dee_place I mean, they already showed how well they use U-Hauls in Idaho to gather inside of and try and riot through LGBTQ+ parades 🤷🏿♂️
@@dee_dee_place They don't like handouts LOL
These counties that voted to look into this matter are chasing a straw dog. Why not spend their energy and time dealing with real issues? We have plenty of them.
People like him just prove how idiotic their thought processes are.
Lady at 2:16 says, "now they're gonna put in the mushroom plants." 🤣
And they say liberals are entitled snowflakes.
Yes, *they* do. Welcome to Projection 101.
...and that they want safe-spaces. 😂
Why not both?
@@Cre80s lol, yeah... Who's political party's ideal is hiding behind a wall, clutching to a middle eastern religion and a gun while scapegoating poor immigrant communities? hmmmm They project quite strongly
Oregonians
want different governance ,like the Wilkes brothers ,the poster boys of exploitation and purchased politicians.
These guys smile to your face and slip a knife into your back when you turn away.Exploiting and controlling public lands is their forte.
laziest immigrants ever
LOL!
Ha ha!
Basically
Bahahaha so aptly put!! 😂
Emigrants !!
The confidence in the line “North Nevada would like to be part of Idaho” sealed my grave
I love how you emphasize just moving to Idaho it’s so simple
So let me get this straight.....
The "don't tread on me" party wants Idaho to tread over large parts of Oregon?
Yup. The snake on their flag wants to swallow a hippo in one bite. Even if it kills them.
I live in a state (a northern one) where that flag gets flown all over the place, and those who fly it say pretty much the same thing: "Don't tread on me... I want to tread on everyone else."
He did say he wants a different government over him...
Yep. The same asshats that spent the last 6 years screeching about strengthening the border.
If the locals don't want it to *be* Oregon anymore and Idaho welcomes them (and will pay for actual State of Oregon assets that should be about all there is to it. The Portland/Salem blue woke dems who anything East of Hood River of Bend as flyover country are the ones who have been doing the treading and getting away with it for far too long.
"I shouldn't have to answer those questions..."
Says a supposed proponent of small government. Priceless 🤣
Nah. He's just another small minded idiot that relies on hypocrisy to "win" his arguments. I'll bet he thinks Sean Hannity is a real man, too...
It sounds like family trees in Eastern Oregon don't branch out.
As a born Oregonian... Idaho can have em.
While we're at it, let's move Canada's border down the coast a lil.
I live in Washington state and we've had the same up here. The eastern half of the state wanted to break away and form a new state because they didn't like the politics and policies of the elected representatives. Unfortunately for them, and the Oregonians who want to join with Idaho, that would require the U.S. Congress to pass legislation in support of it AND the state legislature(s) (in this case Idaho and Oregon) to do the same. Ain't gunna happen.
You’re probably right. It’s a shame really. Might motivate the Talking Heads in Olympia to improve things.
“I shouldn’t have to move, the states border should move instead” and he’ll watch this and still think he sounds like the one with the bright ideas
Ask not how you change things in your state. Ask how you can stay where you are and change to a different state.
Maybe if he just sold his land to Idaho then he would be in Idaho but he wouldn't live there he would be homeless
😂😂😂😂😂
Right, 'make the world revolve around me and bedamned to the consequences'. What complacent, overfed gulls they are.
He admitted he's just the ideas guy, it's not his responsibility to figure out how to actually make it happen.
And I'm going to go out on a limb and guess if he got his way, his advice to anybody who complained about suddenly being residents of Idaho would be, without a shred of irony or self-awareness "If you don't like it, move to Oregon".
Imagine wanting to move a state border 300 miles because selling your house and moving sounds like too much work! 🤣
Basically: Tell me you're lazy with a sick sense of entitlement without telling me 🤷🏿♂️
Or you are tired of a small portion of your state controlling your lives. Kate B herself does not like Eastern Oregon and anytime there is an Emergency there is no aid. Its not a few thousand people that should have to move. Its over half the state that has nothing to do with the state they live in and are tired of being neglected.
Doesn't want to pay a real estate agent their earned commission, probably. Go ahead, try to FSBO it.
@@bobbiechavez2990 FSBO in LaPine? Sounds like a real headache.
@@bobbiechavez2990 estate agents don’t deserve commission tho…..
When did this report air originally? The people in downtown Boise are in winter gear, it's been 100+ degrees since June.
We have something similar in California: folks in some rural areas apparently have had enough of SF liberals, Berkeley tree huggers, LA influencers, etc., and want to form their own "State of Jefferson". Zero "liberal tyranny" (e.g. mask/vaccine mandates), zero regulation, zero taxes - just guns and liberty. Thing is, those folks don't pay much in taxes as is, since those are some of the poorest parts of the state, so it's not clear who'd be footing the bill for the upkeep of their roads, their kids' schools, their food stamps, etc.
“This might sounds crazy, but why not just move to Idaho?”😂😂😂😂
They're lazy and just want things to be their way without doing any of the work. Look at the guy in the video. Won't even bother to think it through.
Bunch of old white guys sitting in a circle bullshitting about how they think the world should be. Nothing new under the sun.
Ewwwe
If you don’t like the state, leave. No one is asking for you to stay. No you may not take the state with you
Like Trump, they all think they deserve a parting gift (I'll take door #3 as the prize....)
and! Idaho's a really beautiful state, too. Beautiful land and nature, I mean.. Strange they don't just move if they like it so much
👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
@@clumsiii Its to much trouble+they know Idlahoans can't afford grifters(have enough as it is), that bring no economic incentives ..love it or leave it, but you're not welcome here no more!!😀
@@daltonwatson5795 Cities are divided among the most productive who work for companies that outsource labor. And the least productive turds of society.
I have a question, and I hope people can respond to this. Oregon wasn’t always a liberal state. It actually started off as a fairly conservative state, and only moved more liberal with the rise of cities. Like Portland, Salem, Eugene, Medford, and Bend. Here’s my problem, when they shift the border to where eastern Oregon becomes part of Idaho, considering the fact that not only Boise and other Idaho cities are fast growing, but Idaho, as a whole is, what is Boise becomes the new Portland, or they just going to want to shift the borders every time one of their cities gets too many liberal voters?
The Oregon Trail reference 😂
As a third generation Oregonian (out of 6 that are/were in-state), this is a hard pass. I live in one of those counties that want to move the Idaho border and I think they're all nuts! I lived in ID for 18 months of Hades, and I have no interest in dealing with people like Ammon Bundy and his band of psychos. If you want to be part Idaho - MOVE!!!
Oregon Trail family? That's how my dad's ancestors came to Oregon. Totally agree with you 😌 When you meet people in those counties, you need to steer clear of political topics if you want to have pleasant relations. Problem is that so much is political these days! Sagebrush Rebellion on steroids.
During our next election, when this nonsense gets on the ballot, I plan to hang some billboards. "Free bus rides to Idaho! Leaving immediately!"
Why don't liberals move to eastern Oregon?
@@davidsalo8397 These people are losers. We should keep America fully intact geographically.
That's the ultimate irony: They hate those liberal politicians, but don't want to leave the area that is governed by those liberal state politicians - assuming everything would stay as they like it, but just be in Idaho - where they don't want to move to.
So… by this logic all the high pop liberal counties should be able to shift state lines. I’m sure the often poorer red counties would love it once they realized all that revenue generating cities were gone.
seriously. car centric exurban living is inherently fiscally unsustainable without high productivity urban areas to subsidize them
They keep forgetting that that sweet blue state revenue
Who grows your food?
@@vw8886 so?? That doesn't make a lick of difference when it comes to economics. I can just as easily say who pays for your schools? Who pays for your hospital? Who pays for your roads?
@@misssummersalt Until you don't have any food.
To us, its like having some kid show up on your door step and declare that they are moving in cuz they ran away from home. I'm impressed that you found even 3 people who were for the idea for a second.
"But not have to live in Idaho."
That went over his bald head.
🤣🤣🤣
He basically admits in the interview just how much of a self entitled idiot he is. He wants what he wants but it’s up to others to figure out how to give it to him. I grew up in Southern Oregon and this isn’t a new idea, just more popular and outspoken the further right Republicans have pushed the party. This is like the idea of splitting part of Oregon and Northern California into a new state. Never going to happen.
I got an ideal, immediately imminent domain their assets, then they can afford to move to Idaho. Problem solved. Conservatives done that mess to poor (every hue of poor humans) for the past 100 plus year's. See if they like it!
I grew up in the Rogue Valley, so I feel you on that. I remember hearing about the State of Jefferson all of my life, but that movement wasn't about changing politics, it was about building roads/highways to get the products and minerals that are produced here to the rest of the country. But then Pearl Harbor happened and the movement was over. Now political MAGATs are trying to tip the scale in their favor whatever it takes. I'm sick of it!
These white-daho Christian nationalists are afraid of being replaced so they want to huddle together and make their final stand. LOL
I don't see what's so hard with just selling their property in Oregon and buying property in Idaho and moving there.
And what happens in say 20 years if this expanded Idaho goes blue? Move the borders again? What an IDIOTIC PLAN!! It seems Republicans are essentially like spoiled children if they can't get their way they hold their breath and they never change as adults because they never GROW UP!!
It's like buying a house next to the airport and then asking them to shut down because of the noise.
That only works if you're wealthy. Case in point: SNA [Orange County Airport in Southern California]. It's been there in some small to large form for over 100 years. But, rich folks buying houses in Upper Newport Bay [Newport Beach] complained about the noise and now when you take off from SNA, your plane goes much more steeply upward, while gunning the engines, then levels off and quietly cruises over Newport. Meanwhile, fark the Costa Mesa residents and businesses, and put your hands in the air as if you're on a roller coaster going up it's biggest climb!
I mean... they MOVED into a house directly under the take-off flight path of an International Airport... and then have the nerve to complain about the noise. Fark those guys.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
The John Wayne Airport in Orange county doesn't allow flights after 10pm for this exact reason. Not hard to imagine at all.
There was a news article a few years back about people buying property in farm country then complaining about the noise and smell coming from the farms
It's like buying a house next to the airport and then ask them to move the airport further away.
I live in NE OR, where there are many pushing to do this. The really funny thing is, Idaho doesn't want them.
The conservative values are "Not only do I want protection for consequences, I also want others to suffer those consequences"
As someone who lives in Portland and married to a POC I have more concern for my family’s safety driving through Eastern Oregon than I ever have walking the streets of Portland.
I agree! I have visited Portland, Oregon and felt safe and comfortable.
Portland is awful to POC tho. The racism is very real, and the problem with aggressive drug addicts racist people is very scary.
This! I walk through all parts of the city day and night. Some of it is a little sketchy, but none of it is truly horrible.
@Hopper33 Um, yeah. Personal experience here. Eastern Oregon is racist.
Yes my family feels the same
His segments are the best. The faces he makes when they contradict themselves, priceless! 🤣😄😂
Have there been any segments with Jordan & Ronnie? I feel like if they teamed up it would be scorched earth levels of sarcasm & ego carnage.
And he isn't the only wizarse in Trevor Noah's circle who makes silly folk realize their arguments are circular and not only make no sense, but fail to take into account the disadvantages if they get their way.
@@sealyoness It's not economically or politically feasible. That doesn't make circular.
When people like this say I want to preserve my conservative values, I hear, I don't want to governed by or live around people that don't look like me...
It is hilarious, their complaints don’t affect them WHERE THEY LIVE
Hello from Idaho! Fun fact: Idaho was once blue and set aside the largest contiguous wilderness and conservation land in the lower US. This was not so long ago. People here don't vote. Our turnout could flip this state. 💙🌎💚
Go 💙 and 💚!
Isn't Idaho a bastion for White Supremacists and "Sovereign Citizens"? #HateIsNotAnAmericanValue
#NeverTrustTheFacistGOP
#GOPsupportsWhiteSupremacy
#GOPpartyOfTreason
When did it turn red?
Really hoping the diaspora of high paid workers from cities thanks to remote work helps improve the tax base in small rural towns and softens the hold that conservative politics have over these places. These regions are often home to some of the best wilderness in the west, and the way public lands politics have become ideologically extreme on the right is pretty disturbing
kinda not accurate. Last dem senator yall had was 1980. That was about the time Republicans started there traditional values culture war nonsense. Since then they have dominated rural areas and dont see that changing any time soon sadly. As long as rural folks are poor and blame everyone else those areas are staying red :( .
“Maybe someday Idaho will be the biggest state in the UNION”
This man is living in the 1800’s
When Idaho was part of the Oregon territory lol
He is 1,800.
I support states like Idaho having less power in the federal government. Let's combine those states.
His mindset definitely is
Nah, this man is living in 2022, he’s just insanely crazy !
It's baffling how people living hundreds of miles away from Portland are so worried about not being able to walk down the streets in Portland without getting shot.
Also, I live in Portland. And I walk up and down Portland streets every day. I hardly ever get shot.
You know if we "concentrate" all the neo-fascists into one state they would collectively have only two senators...food for thought. Lol.
Odd..the “if you don’t like it you can leave” crowd not wanting to well leave.
Wish these people would put this much effort into improving healthcare, education, figuring out solutions to the gun problem and climate change. You know, things that actually matter.🙃
They do put that much effort into those issues. They're just not smart enough to see they're pulling in the wrong direction.
@@JaronLindow In this video, the 'effort' is pretty minimal. So I think it's easy to see why they haven't fixed anything important, much less put effort into it.
If they worked for solutions that mattered, they'd have nothing to whine about. That's part of their culture.
Those issues are not what they care about. Their solution is own more guns and climate change doesn’t exist. Problem solved. The irony is most of them don’t care to understand how the money sausage is made on the state level and most of the services they take for granted and expect are subsidized by those progressive higher tax paying valley folk. Most eastern Oregon counties have large land areas and very small tax bases. Deschutes County (Bend) is the richest one of them, but it’s mostly full of Californians, which most native Oregonians despise on some level. Can’t have your cake and eat it too.
These mouth-breathers do not have the mental capacity.
Mocking these people with legitimate concerns doesn't build bridges, it just digs deeper trenches.
The pipe dreams of uneducated idiots are not "legitimate concerns".
@@Dan210871 the fact you refer to them as idiots, perfectly underlines why people become entrenched.
@@davidvanderven If they become entrenched merely because of an accurate description of their intellectual capabilities, what could possibly be done about that?
Why do we have to stop mocking while they refuse to stop acting stupidly?
@@Dan210871 real tolerant and loving of you.
@@davidvanderven Please re-watch the video. You'll notice that none of the advocates of the "move" has thought through the complexities this entails. They want to set a motion a process without understanding its dynamics or its outcomes. They display the near-absolute certainty of those who are utterly ignorant... Until Ronny asks a few pointed questions, and they start stammering. If that is not the very definition of stupidity, I don't know what is. Why should I display love and tolerance towards those who don't care enough about the consequences of what they advocate?
I live in S. Oregon & this whole thing is absurd. All that red may make it look like the majority of Oregon is conservative, but this move would equal 30% percent of the population taking 70% of Oregon’s land to Idaho. On top of the fact that no state, county or even family is all red or all blue.
as an Oregonian, they can just move. There are so many people that take advantage of progressive policies while constantly voting to demolish those systems; of course they think this sort of thing would work.
Oregon isn’t even that Progressive either, really. They are just benefitting off of Western wealth while complaining people that live far away from them are too woke. We have a pretty decentralised political system in Oregon, so they have a lot of autonomy as far as state governments go. Like yeah, if you don’t like it, move to Idaho. No one will miss you
Paid family leave 2023
Yeah if we become part of Idaho I am gonna not acknowledge it like they don't acknowledge the election or science.
Priceless! This Scottish Irish resident of Oregon loves your comment.
Oh jeez! The last two jokes - I had just taken a big slug of cold water - it went up my nose! 😂😂😂😂
Interviewer: Please don't call that man a patriot. He can leave Oregon if he doesn't like it.
"Why can't we all come together?" - says the guy trying to break apart a state 🤣😂🤣😂
I have talked to some of these people the hilarious part is they want to move the Oregon border Because if they move to Idaho they can't make a living imagine that
It kills me, the extremes "conservatives" will go to for their brand.
This was so brilliant. Thank you, Ronny!
It’s not just political; there is a rising level of civic ignorance that’s getting worse each year. The term “conservative” has lost its meaning. The fear that rightist politicians have been peddling since the 1980s is taking greater hold on what were once sensible people. We’re on the way to real batshit crazy.
“Conservative” never had any real meaning. It’s always just been code for “I look out for my friends and family, and everyone else should starve to death-except, of course, large corporations and extremely wealthy people because I let them brainwash me into doing whatever they tell me to do.” It’s a combination of greed, tunnel vision, obstinate jerkiness, and brazen stupidity.
Already there. January 6? Trump's election? Those are clues. 😗
Interesting. I was thinking about that phrase during this segment. "Conservative Values." I don't think right-wing ideology lines up with the strict definition anymore.
Think we’ve already arrived.
The crazy train left the station a long time ago.
My county voted to explore the option. Trying to talk to the supporters logically is like trying to explain physics to a rock.
It is very easy to explain physics to a rock. It just won't listen or comprehend what you are saying.
But it can be demonstrated by dropping them down a mountain.
Hmmm I have a solution!!!!
@@druid_zephyrus 😳😳 nicely done !
Hey! that's a disservice to rocks!
I give rocks way more credit.
or common sense to a trumper
Would’ve loved to have told him what he would’ve told an immigrant: If you don’t like it here, then go back to where you came from.
So he’s trying to redraw the borders because he IS home.
He probably learned that from that Orange Tree-stump when he redirected that hurricane with a Sharpie.
As a dude that lives in Idaho, I give the idea of annexing parts of Oregon a hard pass.
You could at least take Wyoming. There's too few people for them to be a state.
When the Daily Show brings you on, it's kind of like being asked to star on Dancing with the Stars. It's a warning that you're crazy.
Facts
That's how Jordan Klepper gets such awesome footage. A little self awareness is a beautiful thing, but it's nowhere near as hilarious
Emmitt Smith had some moves. Actually, I never watched it, I just know he had moves as a RB, so I assume he can dance. *shrug*
That would fly right over there pea brains!
Wasn’t Trevor Noah also on the show?
I'm a little surprised that Ronny Chieng didn't bring up the fact that all the new residents of "Greater Idaho" would have to pay sales tax and those working for minimum wage would see their hourly pay drop from $12.50 to $7.50.
Details, details!
Actually, I don't believe anyone who lives in La Pine even HAS a job.
Hush! We all know everything will just work out based on enough belief and faith.
I was not aware our 6% sales takes means $5 hour wage drop. That is the dumbest math I have ever witnessed
@@lukelowe918 what are you talking about? Minimum wage in Idaho is $7.25 an hour, yes? It's $12.50 an hour in rural counties in Oregon. So a lot of Eastern Oregon residents would see their wages drop from $12.50 (or $13.50 in Deschutes county) to Idaho's $7.25. At the same time, they'd also have to start paying a 6% sales tax.
I live in Idaho and I am against Oregon joining Idaho and changing or States shape.
The delusional sense of entitlement is astonishing.
Leave Oregon to move to Idaho? Keep on moving on out of the US completely.
Russia will welcome them!
Hear hear
They'll be welcomed in Ukraine!
@@squidster3128 _ no Ukraine will reject these unreliable, unfaithful and unrealistic people in their so so-called "western Idaho commune" ‼
Nothing is stopping them from actually moving to Idaho to be closer to their fellow racists.
Plenty of racists out in the sticks everywhere unfortunately.
Why you have to call them out? You know they are going to be on a witch hunt for you. You can’t use the R word or else they will say I’m not racist, your the racist. But seriously the more intelligent people know what is really happening.
Exactly!! I’ll help them pack! 👋
You realize YOU'RE THE PROBLEM, right? People like you on both sides with just absolute hate for the opposite side? You can't even acknowledge his opinion without calling him a racist. Trump won and Republicans will continue to win because of people like you.
I live in idaho and people complain about people moving here from blue states but the only people moving here are racist and want to be around white people . this place is filling up with trump supporters and think they can push around someone born here if we don't agree with them
Sometimes I feel these kinds of things are all staged, but I know there are people like this out there in the country.
Eastern Washington state has the same conservative thing going on that Oregon does, so he's absolutely incorrect about Washington being too liberal-the real genius play there would be for eastern Oregon and eastern Washington to both combine to make a new independent state. Washington produces more potatoes than Idaho anyway!
Washington also has the same western liberal big city situation that Oregon does.
There are no red states and blue states. There are blue cities and red rurals. Nothing special to see here.
Of course the movement has momentum. You can say a lot about MAGA, but reality is not an obstacle for them.
Reality is not an obstacle 🤣😂👌🏽
Reminds me of an old saying, "when the map and reality doesn't tally, do you follow the map or adapt to the reality?" Clearly these guys are team map.
Lemmings running off the cliff have loads of momentum.
Eastern Oregon is a desolate wasteland akin to the fallout: new vegas universe. They'd be a larger strain on Idaho's resources and Idaho already leeches more money from the federal government than it returns in GDP so it'd just make Idaho a bigger strain on America as a whole vs just having western Oregon financially support eastern Oregon and thats that
That’s not true. It doesn’t seem like you’ve been there. There is a great amount of scenic beauty in central and eastern Oregon. Most of the state’s beef and wheat and a lot of the rest of the produce is grown there. Is the area as a whole a financial juggernaut? No. Are the people there benefitting from tax income generated by residents of the Willamette valley in the western part of the state? Yes. But it’s far from being “a desolate wasteland.”
@@gregbors8364 I on the other hand have been there in fact I went there last week. Yes a whole lot of farming is done there. We pasted about 50 Dairy farms just on our way threw. and yes much of it is beautiful. Mountains, Valleys. An amazing place to drive threw but it's just that. It is open land for miles a lot of it is federal land. Much of it is desert just like this commenter. It will not be worth the price they would be paying for it. Not for a long time.
Whys anyone even having this disgusion? Seriously.
#Sleepless Hollow you are terribly incorrect. Eastern Oregon is full of beauty and delight. Take some time and visit.
@@calebcorrea7556 So, since you have been there, you’d have to agree that calling it “a desolate wasteland akin to the Fallout: New Vegas Universe” is hyperbolic at best. A lot of people seem to think of desert land as “worthless,” but I believe that a lot of residents of Utah and Arizona would disagree. Now, as to your other point, the state government of Idaho is definitely not interested in adding a lot of land that essentially generates no net income, it would have to provide the services that the state of Oregon now does, so these separatist people are dreaming a pipe dream.
You want Idaho? Move there. Idaho is getting zero land from Oregon. The unrelenting audacity from these racists is unbelievable.
Go. To. Idaho.
Ohh.. the Deschutes Public Library, one of the great places in Bend. I miss that place.
9 Oregon counties proved that inbreeding is still alive and well
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The entitlement these people have is astonishing. If you want to breathe easy, just realize they have about 2 to 3 years before they are all in nursing homes being racist to the staff. They are so insufferable
The problem is these people probably taught their children to be racist, gun powder sniffing, nut jobs to
Unfortunately, they are raising their kids to be just as racist and insufferable.
Or dead lol
They are insufferable. They've done these non-binding ballot measures in several counties, with mixed results. Whenever they do poorly it's because the election was rigged.
I can only imagine
"Look Goldilocks, I'm trying to help you here..." 🤣🤣🤣
I live in Oregon and I certainly don't want to live in Idaho. If I did, I'd move there.
When I was younger, and would complain about some real or imagined injustice, I was invariably told by every conservative "If you don't like it here, then leave.".
They are leaving, Oregon.
@@mitchyoung93 Without moving to Idaho.
The MAGA state of mind never ceases to embarrass Americans.
"It's a MAGA state of mind." That'd make for a great shirt! :D
2022 revised edition would be "ultra maga state of mind"
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Sadly yes
@@alexauman2111 just show someone having their brain removed to go along with it....
And some Idahoans think they should annex federal land as well. It is hard for many people who don't live in the west to grasp that the federal government owns so much of the land out here - something like 60% of all the land in Idaho is owned and controlled by the federal government. But these folks ignore the fact that there is a high administrative cost to maintaining large tracts of empty land...and of course, they are also the same ones who don't want to pay taxes to fund government services that would manage all this land.
If Idaho took over their federal lands, and annexed all this Oregon land (over 50% is federal, and mostly in these areas)... imagine how much public lands they'd have to manage at the state level and the additional funding (read: taxes) they would need for it. These include some counties in Oregon who have failed to fund county emergency services in recent years to the point that you could only call 911 during business hours. That's freedumb!
"I've been there. It looks virtually worthless." 😆
if those folks like idaho they should move there
They have that cake and eat it too entitled mentality,when they should just move if they love Idaho so much.
they don't necessarily like idaho. they like conservatism, and idaho is the closest conservative state to them. imagine if they went through all this rigmarole, got the border changed, then the liberal vote prevailed in the next idaho election. tasty.
I live in Portland and walk every single day...with my kids....even at night. Have never been shot or ended up in a riot.
Idaho! Don't let them do it! They'll only make your state what their state is now!
That part at the end where he shows the parchment saying "IndepenDAHO" sounds so much like "Inde-PENDEJO" in Spanish, and it makes so much sense. Go look what "pendejo" means.
2:04 I grew up in and live in the part of Portland that guy is complaining about. Do we have issues with gangs and gun violence? Yes. But I walk through the neighborhoods in Outer East Portland all the time and I don't worry about getting shot ever. This area is more diverse than it's ever been, and for that, I'm grateful.
Also, people voting to chronically underfund and don't support our state government and then complain about how poorly it's run and want to move to Idaho? Yeah. That tracks.
Wait, I thought Portland got burned to the ground? Did Fox lie to me?
@@torchandhammer Fox didn't lie. It's just that the state of Portland at any given moment is subjective to whatever political point one tries to make. It's like Schrodinger's cat but for conservatives and definitely not a nonsensical thought experiment.
I'm not sure republicans have grasped that taxes is what the state use to run itself...
"Also, people voting to chronically underfund and don't support our state government and then complain about how poorly it's run and want to move to Idaho? Yeah. That tracks."
So why not let them and lower your burden? What you said is basically one of their arguments in favor for the NW Oregonians.
We pay for their roads, schools, and fire departments. If not 'thank you', I would ask that they just stay quiet and enjoy their lives.
The term "conservative" now includes moving state borders to make individuals happy who don't like their government.
It's crazy how conservatives think they're patriotic while they hate the government that the country's constitution established.
I learned from an 8th grade social science teacher ( in the 1970's ) what the word "conservative" was code for in white republican circles...
And they'll never like the government it's like they'll always find something to be unhappy about
Let them run the country their ways send some potatoes
"Oh, I've been there, it looks virtually worthless." 🤣
"I headed to downtown Idaho" 😂😂😂😂