This is the most detailed demonstration of the note sequencer yet - great work! Would have saved me some serious manual diving if this had been up 3 days ago :)
Thanks and congrats! Yeah, I've got a decent amount of content for the Pro 3 on my YT channel. Also, some more resources, articles and free patches on PresetPatch: www.presetpatch.com/synth/sequential-pro-3
Wow. Just got the last SE model from my local distributor. This video is soooo what I needed to see. Thank you. Mine will live above my Matrix Brute as well. Monday is going to be a great day!!
Nice video. Did you ever figure out how to transpose sequences via keyboard and still remain in synch? Seems that hitting the keyboard slightly early triggers it early... was hoping it would "wait"..
There is a setting for "Arp Beat Sync" in menus, but I don't use it much... usually prefer to just time the key strikes, and get a more organic sync. In my Mass and Motion demo, I go through a lot of sounds like these, and actually sometimes is preferable to slightly lead the beat, or trail the beat for more of a groove. th-cam.com/video/LSevxzBExCs/w-d-xo.html
Another great demo Jason, fully agree that Sequential needs to implement a ratchet knob or button. I have been considering the Matriarch because of this but the sequencer on the Pro 3 makes it difficult to rule out especially with being able to CV sequence modular gear.
You can do this somewhat... though with some serious limitations... since this is a mono/paraphonic synth, there is only one "voice" with full articulation of envelopes and filter. You can individually sequence the three oscillators with different patterns, using modulation sequencing, and you can modulate osc levels in the seq lanes as well.... so you can get a different sort of sound with each oscillator. But this synth is not ideal for having multiple, completely different sounds, sequenced together.. a true polyphonic/multitimbral synth would be best suited for that. That being said, I absolutely adore this synth and its advanced sequencing capabilities... it really is the most versatile mono/para synth ever created. I have some other videos in which I show off more of the modulation sequencing capabilities. And my Mass and Motion soundset showcases a bunch of more advanced sound designs that only this instrument can accomplish: th-cam.com/video/LSevxzBExCs/w-d-xo.html
Yeah, pretty intuitive and easy to get going... but its also very deep when you get into the modulation sequencing possibilities. In this other video, I go through some of the more advanced stuff you can do: th-cam.com/video/JFXuQqBtSH0/w-d-xo.html
Thanks Keekee! Pro 3 is an awesome synth... you're gonna love it! You may have already seen, but on my channel, I've got a bunch more Pro 3 videos: th-cam.com/play/PLu7HDEHdGyOnoiQ_o81c2Lhb3Z_qp-OjZ.html
Sounds real cool and lively control! What you can do with sequencer connecting to another synth via Midi/CV. Will Pro3 provide driving power to MB for example?
I can’t figure out how to have different step lengths per track. If I record a 14 step note sequence, all the other tracks are 14 steps. How do you do poly rhythm ic sequences? Thanks!!
Hold down the step button which you want to make the last, then press the Reset button. That will cause the track to have a different/shorter length. You can do this on a per-track basis to create poly rhythms. To return to full 16-step length, just hold down step 16 and press reset.
Gonna give the Pro 3 an edge... It's really inspiring and the sequencing super flexible. Both are great boards though! www.presetpatch.com/articles/Sequential-Pro-3-vs-Arturia-MatrixBrute-vs-Moog-Subsequent-37
Great demo. I have two questions if I may.... 1. Is it possible to record / shift individual notes off the 16 step grid? If not, don't you find a bit too much musically limiting having to adhere to 1/16ths? 2. Can the Cue Program (manual p. 79) be used to create sequences longer than 64 steps? Or does it only change the sound program while keeping the sequence the same?
Hey Radek - its not gonna give you DAW level control over note timing/rhythms, but the Note Ratcheting allows you to subdivide beats into multiple sub beats, and the Swing Knob allows you to give your sequence a groove to it. I often use the swing often at lower levels. You can also double your BPM and treat notes as if they are 32nds, with less total steps... If you want more subdivision. Regarding the CUE program, yes, that effectively lets you create longer sequences or song parts (verse/bridge/chorus) that are separated into consecutive patches... with different sequences on each. You just have to use the CUE button/knob combo to cue them up before the current sequence ends (its not automated, but pretty easy to pull off in a live setting, using one hand)
@@CreativeSpiral I didn't expect DAW level control, it's just that pretty much all standalone HW sequencers these days feature unquantized recording / micro-timing, so I wanted to be clear on what's going on in here. It's such a beautifuly designed maschine. Enjoy your time with it.
Thanks! You can sequence each of the three oscillators independently to create some variation, but can't really get multiple totally unique sounds on different tracks. In the "Mass and Motion" soundset I created, there's some more examples of some of the type of complex animated motion and sequences that can be generated: th-cam.com/video/LSevxzBExCs/w-d-xo.html
Here's another video that shows an example of creating a few different electronic drum timbre sounds within a sequence... but, yeah, it's not true multitrack... just using the 13 mod sequence lanes to vary the sounds that play to create the impression of multiple sounds playing together. th-cam.com/video/Z_uJF2OwdWw/w-d-xo.html
How does the seq compare to the Pro 2's sequencer? Can it allow paraphonic tracks like the Pro 2? Also when you have made 4 different sequences (with the 4 seq buttons) can they all be saved as a patch including all sound settings?
Sorry for the late response.. didn't see this until now. The Pro3 has twice as many phrases (4 instead of 2), and yes, they are saved per patch. You can do some really amazing sequence variations and rapidly switch between them. Check out this vid for another example I did of a complex arp, with live mangling of phrases. th-cam.com/video/C54kSVChdw8/w-d-xo.html
yay! ive been looking out for some vids dealing specifically with the sequencer (dont know why it didn't cross my mind to copy variation over this way =) maybe a look at paraphonic sequencing would be useful too, i cant really learn from the manual alone lol cheers!
@@vinylselektaz6475 no… for multitrack beat making with a single keyboard, something like an Akai MPC keyboard would be the way to go… or workstation keyboards from Roland or Yamaha.
Whole lotta mono synth power! I highly recommend the Pro 3. The SEM 2-Pole and Prophet 4-Pole filter would be a nice addition to your sound character capabilities. Plus the Pro3 mod matrix (32 custom slots), and sequencer are amazing.
it would have beed so nice if you had the camera on the instrument's sequesncer panel, and the screen, so we could see what you're doing, rather than your narration. but thanks for the informational video
The Pro3 is a monophonic/paraphonic synth, so pads and chords are not its top strength. A true polyphonic synth works best for those type of duties. However, for a paraphonic synth, it works awesome. I have programmed in many paraphonic patches to play pads and chords and they sound great with the standard paraphonic limitations. You can hear some of the pads and chords in my soundset here: th-cam.com/video/GDtO3me2LS0/w-d-xo.html
The core sound engine on both are solid foundations for sound design. The MxB offers a third VCO osc, where the Pro 3 gives you a digital wavetable osc for the third, which allows for more choices in the sound foundation. I think I might prefer the raw filter sound of the three individual filters on the Pro 3, however the MxB offers serial/parallel dual filter routing which opens up further sound design options... and MxB filters do sound great too. Both units have great mod matrixes... The MxB is more visual with with matrix, but the Pro 3 has 32 mod slots and is really a sound designer's dream. I prefer the paraphonic mode on the MxB over the Pro 3 (at least with current firmwares). Both offer powerful sequencers, but I would say the Pro 3 is probably the best I've ever seen implemented in a synth. You really can't go wrong with either. www.presetpatch.com/articles/Sequential-Pro-3-vs-Arturia-MatrixBrute-vs-Moog-Subsequent-37
@@CreativeSpiral you actually CAN go wrong if you go with the Matrixbrute. They are notorious in the customer service dept. There is a bug in the latest version (v2) where you cannot trigger the sequencer or lock in an arpeggio when "Midi Sync" is switched on and you are sending it midi clock. So if you are cooking along and have some solid midi clock coming in via DIN, and want to play a sequence, you press a key and your and ...NOTHING. Same w the arp. This used to work before the big "bug fix" that took almost 2 years. Now a "hot fix" is supposed to fix this back, but that's already passed the 4 month mark. I use midi clock as the heartbeat of my large system. Why can't they make this work again? If you want the MB to sync to a clock you are out of luck.
Creative Spiral thx for the post ....can the pro 3 record in real time like the matrix brute? What you play is what you get?.....I have the brute and it’s a solid analog workhorse from clean to deep sub to gritty and easy to use sequencer so it remains in my studio ....V2 update we’ll could take it or leave it.....also always have at least one Dave smith synth right now it’s the prophet 6....had the pro 2.....
@@yeskeys Yeah, I know.. I'm on MxB forum as well.. the 2.0 was a hearty upgrade, with tons of great new features and functions, *and* this MIDI sync issue. The devs have said they're working on it, and I tend to believe them... they are proceeding at a glacial pace, but we'll get another version soon I hope. So yes, you're right the MIDI sync is jenky right now.. I've been just manually matching BPMs in meantime, which works for most of what I do. But I am looking forward to the hotfix.. Otherwise it's a great board though... although I suspect it will be playing second fiddle to the Pro 3 for some time.
Hey Nebula - my top feature request is for them to add Ratcheting as a Mod Destination... that would allow live warping / ratcheting / scattering on cue from the mod wheel, slider, pressure or other sources.
@@CreativeSpiral that sounds cool but it doesnt really answer my question. is there a type of. sequencer that sort of feels like a looper, i.e. records swing, rests, and ties live
Best demo of practical application of the sequencer. ❤
Fabulous demo! I’ll. be applying this way of working to
My pro 3 sequencing. Thank you! 🖖
This is the most detailed demonstration of the note sequencer yet - great work! Would have saved me some serious manual diving if this had been up 3 days ago :)
at least each section is a pretty quick read lol
Great tune That’s pretty cool. Thinking about getting the Pro 3. The sequencer is making it an easy choice.
Really cool and glad I found your channel! I'm waiting for my Pro-3. Hopefully the end of the week so trying to get ahead.
Thanks and congrats! Yeah, I've got a decent amount of content for the Pro 3 on my YT channel. Also, some more resources, articles and free patches on PresetPatch: www.presetpatch.com/synth/sequential-pro-3
@CreativeSpiral Oh wow smashing! Thank you so much for such great resources. 👍😎💫
Cool groove!
Wow. Just got the last SE model from my local distributor. This video is soooo what I needed to see. Thank you. Mine will live above my Matrix Brute as well. Monday is going to be a great day!!
Glad you enjoyed the video! Congrats on the SE!
Nice video. Did you ever figure out how to transpose sequences via keyboard and still remain in synch? Seems that hitting the keyboard slightly early triggers it early... was hoping it would "wait"..
There is a setting for "Arp Beat Sync" in menus, but I don't use it much... usually prefer to just time the key strikes, and get a more organic sync. In my Mass and Motion demo, I go through a lot of sounds like these, and actually sometimes is preferable to slightly lead the beat, or trail the beat for more of a groove. th-cam.com/video/LSevxzBExCs/w-d-xo.html
@@CreativeSpiral thsnks for that... I never get the timing right so I will look into it! :D
Another great demo Jason, fully agree that Sequential needs to implement a ratchet knob or button. I have been considering the Matriarch because of this but the sequencer on the Pro 3 makes it difficult to rule out especially with being able to CV sequence modular gear.
This is a great sounding synth!
Excellent video
Are you able to use a different sound on each sequencer track so you can build up a small pattern so a base lead pad etc ?
You can do this somewhat... though with some serious limitations... since this is a mono/paraphonic synth, there is only one "voice" with full articulation of envelopes and filter. You can individually sequence the three oscillators with different patterns, using modulation sequencing, and you can modulate osc levels in the seq lanes as well.... so you can get a different sort of sound with each oscillator. But this synth is not ideal for having multiple, completely different sounds, sequenced together.. a true polyphonic/multitimbral synth would be best suited for that. That being said, I absolutely adore this synth and its advanced sequencing capabilities... it really is the most versatile mono/para synth ever created. I have some other videos in which I show off more of the modulation sequencing capabilities. And my Mass and Motion soundset showcases a bunch of more advanced sound designs that only this instrument can accomplish: th-cam.com/video/LSevxzBExCs/w-d-xo.html
Looks very straightforward
Yeah, pretty intuitive and easy to get going... but its also very deep when you get into the modulation sequencing possibilities. In this other video, I go through some of the more advanced stuff you can do: th-cam.com/video/JFXuQqBtSH0/w-d-xo.html
Nice vid! Helful. What’s the drummachine in this vid?
Glad you found it useful! It's TR-8S... great drum machine / companion for Pro 3.
Dave smith should pay you for this. Thank you
mine will live above my system 8 and sub37 but i have a soft spot in my heart for matrixbrute also
Nice vid, thanks. Will save me some time when my pro 3 arrives. More on Pro 3 if you can, 🙏
Thanks Keekee! Pro 3 is an awesome synth... you're gonna love it! You may have already seen, but on my channel, I've got a bunch more Pro 3 videos: th-cam.com/play/PLu7HDEHdGyOnoiQ_o81c2Lhb3Z_qp-OjZ.html
Sounds real cool and lively control! What you can do with sequencer connecting to another synth via Midi/CV. Will Pro3 provide driving power to MB for example?
I can’t figure out how to have different step lengths per track. If I record a 14 step note sequence, all the other tracks are 14 steps. How do you do poly rhythm ic sequences? Thanks!!
Hold down the step button which you want to make the last, then press the Reset button. That will cause the track to have a different/shorter length. You can do this on a per-track basis to create poly rhythms. To return to full 16-step length, just hold down step 16 and press reset.
Creative Spiral Hey thanks very much. I finally got it figured out. Couldn’t seem to find that info in the manual. Sure I just missed it.
Great video .. I am considering the pro 3 or Matrixbrute - which one would you give the edge to ?
Pro 3 or Matrixbrute? Thanks
Gonna give the Pro 3 an edge... It's really inspiring and the sequencing super flexible. Both are great boards though! www.presetpatch.com/articles/Sequential-Pro-3-vs-Arturia-MatrixBrute-vs-Moog-Subsequent-37
That synth would look good over my Matrixbrute too.
Great demo. I have two questions if I may....
1. Is it possible to record / shift individual notes off the 16 step grid? If not, don't you find a bit too much musically limiting having to adhere to 1/16ths?
2. Can the Cue Program (manual p. 79) be used to create sequences longer than 64 steps? Or does it only change the sound program while keeping the sequence the same?
Hey Radek - its not gonna give you DAW level control over note timing/rhythms, but the Note Ratcheting allows you to subdivide beats into multiple sub beats, and the Swing Knob allows you to give your sequence a groove to it. I often use the swing often at lower levels. You can also double your BPM and treat notes as if they are 32nds, with less total steps... If you want more subdivision. Regarding the CUE program, yes, that effectively lets you create longer sequences or song parts (verse/bridge/chorus) that are separated into consecutive patches... with different sequences on each. You just have to use the CUE button/knob combo to cue them up before the current sequence ends (its not automated, but pretty easy to pull off in a live setting, using one hand)
@@CreativeSpiral I didn't expect DAW level control, it's just that pretty much all standalone HW sequencers these days feature unquantized recording / micro-timing, so I wanted to be clear on what's going on in here. It's such a beautifuly designed maschine. Enjoy your time with it.
How do you feel about the Matrixbrute after having had the Pro 3?
MxB is a great synth, but I ended up selling it after picking up the PolyBrute. Pro 3 is my main Mono/Para synth.
I may be right behind you @@CreativeSpiral
awesome video. Can you have multiple different sequences from different sounds going on at the same time like different tracks?
Thanks! You can sequence each of the three oscillators independently to create some variation, but can't really get multiple totally unique sounds on different tracks. In the "Mass and Motion" soundset I created, there's some more examples of some of the type of complex animated motion and sequences that can be generated: th-cam.com/video/LSevxzBExCs/w-d-xo.html
Here's another video that shows an example of creating a few different electronic drum timbre sounds within a sequence... but, yeah, it's not true multitrack... just using the 13 mod sequence lanes to vary the sounds that play to create the impression of multiple sounds playing together. th-cam.com/video/Z_uJF2OwdWw/w-d-xo.html
How does the seq compare to the Pro 2's sequencer? Can it allow paraphonic tracks like the Pro 2? Also when you have made 4 different sequences (with the 4 seq buttons) can they all be saved as a patch including all sound settings?
Sorry for the late response.. didn't see this until now. The Pro3 has twice as many phrases (4 instead of 2), and yes, they are saved per patch. You can do some really amazing sequence variations and rapidly switch between them. Check out this vid for another example I did of a complex arp, with live mangling of phrases. th-cam.com/video/C54kSVChdw8/w-d-xo.html
yay! ive been looking out for some vids dealing specifically with the sequencer (dont know why it didn't cross my mind to copy variation over this way =)
maybe a look at paraphonic sequencing would be useful too, i cant really learn from the manual alone lol
cheers!
Yeah, clearly the manual is last resort ;) I am planning on doing a few more vids soon. Will try to incorporate paraphonic sequencing.
Can a beat be made in this? Track 1 drums 2 synth 3 piano and so on
@@vinylselektaz6475 no… for multitrack beat making with a single keyboard, something like an Akai MPC keyboard would be the way to go… or workstation keyboards from Roland or Yamaha.
I’m toying with the idea of selling my Sub 37 and buying the pro. I already have the matrixbrute and voyager, so I would still have at least one Moog.
Whole lotta mono synth power! I highly recommend the Pro 3. The SEM 2-Pole and Prophet 4-Pole filter would be a nice addition to your sound character capabilities. Plus the Pro3 mod matrix (32 custom slots), and sequencer are amazing.
it would have beed so nice if you had the camera on the instrument's sequesncer panel, and the screen, so we could see what you're doing, rather than your narration. but thanks for the informational video
Hallo, thanks for this video. is it possible to make chords and pads?
The Pro3 is a monophonic/paraphonic synth, so pads and chords are not its top strength. A true polyphonic synth works best for those type of duties. However, for a paraphonic synth, it works awesome. I have programmed in many paraphonic patches to play pads and chords and they sound great with the standard paraphonic limitations. You can hear some of the pads and chords in my soundset here: th-cam.com/video/GDtO3me2LS0/w-d-xo.html
7:50 a banger
Is that a drum machine your using if so what make is it anybody cheers,
Yeah, its a Roland TR8S.. great unit.
what did you use to make the drum beat at 6m?
It's a Roland TR-8S drum machine... great little unit.
Which sound do you prefer Brute or Pro 3?
The core sound engine on both are solid foundations for sound design. The MxB offers a third VCO osc, where the Pro 3 gives you a digital wavetable osc for the third, which allows for more choices in the sound foundation. I think I might prefer the raw filter sound of the three individual filters on the Pro 3, however the MxB offers serial/parallel dual filter routing which opens up further sound design options... and MxB filters do sound great too. Both units have great mod matrixes... The MxB is more visual with with matrix, but the Pro 3 has 32 mod slots and is really a sound designer's dream. I prefer the paraphonic mode on the MxB over the Pro 3 (at least with current firmwares). Both offer powerful sequencers, but I would say the Pro 3 is probably the best I've ever seen implemented in a synth. You really can't go wrong with either. www.presetpatch.com/articles/Sequential-Pro-3-vs-Arturia-MatrixBrute-vs-Moog-Subsequent-37
@@CreativeSpiral Thnx for the answer!
@@CreativeSpiral you actually CAN go wrong if you go with the Matrixbrute. They are notorious in the customer service dept. There is a bug in the latest version (v2) where you cannot trigger the sequencer or lock in an arpeggio when "Midi Sync" is switched on and you are sending it midi clock. So if you are cooking along and have some solid midi clock coming in via DIN, and want to play a sequence, you press a key and your and ...NOTHING. Same w the arp.
This used to work before the big "bug fix" that took almost 2 years. Now a "hot fix" is supposed to fix this back, but that's already passed the 4 month mark. I use midi clock as the heartbeat of my large system. Why can't they make this work again? If you want the MB to sync to a clock you are out of luck.
Creative Spiral thx for the post ....can the pro 3 record in real time like the matrix brute? What you play is what you get?.....I have the brute and it’s a solid analog workhorse from clean to deep sub to gritty and easy to use sequencer so it remains in my studio ....V2 update we’ll could take it or leave it.....also always have at least one Dave smith synth right now it’s the prophet 6....had the pro 2.....
@@yeskeys Yeah, I know.. I'm on MxB forum as well.. the 2.0 was a hearty upgrade, with tons of great new features and functions, *and* this MIDI sync issue. The devs have said they're working on it, and I tend to believe them... they are proceeding at a glacial pace, but we'll get another version soon I hope. So yes, you're right the MIDI sync is jenky right now.. I've been just manually matching BPMs in meantime, which works for most of what I do. But I am looking forward to the hotfix.. Otherwise it's a great board though... although I suspect it will be playing second fiddle to the Pro 3 for some time.
what is providing the drum track?
Roland TR-8S
Ratcheting is like lens flares. :D
Can you live-record into the ratchet divisions?
Hey Nebula - my top feature request is for them to add Ratcheting as a Mod Destination... that would allow live warping / ratcheting / scattering on cue from the mod wheel, slider, pressure or other sources.
@@CreativeSpiral that sounds cool but it doesnt really answer my question. is there a type of. sequencer that sort of feels like a looper, i.e. records swing, rests, and ties live