Why Did Jesus Die? | Rachael Wooldridge | HTB Alpha Spring 2019
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Thank you for sharing this video.
I like how the speaker explored our hypocrisy (I appreciated her being candid about her own - I relate) and it was good the speaker spoke about sin but I believe this talk presents an incomplete picture of Jesus death.
The cross has two equal and important parts. It is God’s justice played out along with God’s mercy. Both are BEAUTIFUL. Would we prefer an unjust God - a God who couldn’t care less about wrongdoing? Even if the speaker would she has no right to present a version of faith that doesn’t correspond with that taught in the New Testament.
To faithfully preach the justice side of the cross she has to get across:
- that God is absolutely holy (intolerant of sin)
- that God is fair and therefore cannot ignore wrongdoing
- that the punishment for sin is separation from God - hell
She considered it sufficient only to mention the partition that sin causes in relationship with God. How can she consider that adequate? Does she understand that a faithfully preached gospel forms the foundation for our living lives that are just and merciful? Her preaching in this way contributes to the impression that unbelievers are called to be in a photograph (a state of forgiveness) instead of a movie (a whole life expressing God’s justness and mercy).
It’s not just the first part of the gospel that suffers from her failing to talk about these things. The absence of a well explained first part means that her presentation of love is reduced to God FEELING love for us. I know God feels love for us but God does more than feel - He takes action - He loves self-sacrificially - He loves people who are acting as His enemies. Again she’s undermined both the potential to see the true nature of God’s love but also the likelihood that anyone will feel compelled to live self-sacrificially rather than sentimentally.
Thank you for this. I thought exactly the same thing. Its actually quite deceptive of them.
@@osr4152 Hello,
I wrote what I wrote above more than three years ago. I have since changed my view on something important - namely that whilst I believe there is very much a thing called hell - and that it is eternal punishment for sin - I don't believe that the consequences of rebelling against God's love revealed in creation is hell - only physical death (when Romans 6:23 says that the wages of sin is death the word for death most often in the bible means physical death). Only when a person either rebels against God's love revealed in creation in a manner which shows that they will not respond positively to Christ - or refuses to accept the gospel about Jesus - is a person then worthy of hell. These are the two groups revealed in 2 Thessalonians 1:8-9.
Said another way I don't believe that any gospel preaching is saving people from hell - I believe that normally only when people refuse Jesus having been revealed to them are they then worthy of hell.
I should add that both when I first watched this HTB was committed to undermining gospel fundamentals - removing the holiness and justice of God from the gospel - and the need for repentance. Although I remember that Rachael Wooldridge was not seriously guilty of doing this herself (her fault was to continue to align herself with HTB as they behaved in this way). But I have said what I should not have said here about her message - and for doing so I am in need of her forgiveness.
I should also add that I no longer believe that the bible says anywhere that God hates all sin - only that god hates evil doing - a particular category of sin - free, knowing, and wilful sin. So while our ignorant sin - and our inclination towards sin (sin which isn’t free) are the result of our each doing an act of evil (rebelling against God’s love revealed in creation) - God’s anger is directed only to the prior act or acts of evil which led these other two types of sin to exist (read Romans 1:16-32 for how these other two types of sin come about - as a result of God’s judgement against our evil doing).
@@philipbenjamin4720 ok thanks..that's a very nuanced view of hell, but if you are correct it sounds like I am going there ... usually when people have unorthodox views it's good news lol.
I used to be a Christian, not really any more but have been persuaded to try an Alpha course.
So according to your view they are doing me more harm than good by telling me the gospel. Damn it, if I had never been told the gospel I would just die whereas now I have to go to hell?!
@@osr4152 Why aren't you a Christian? What approach to life have you chosen that isn't to first work out who you are - to work out why you are the way you are - and finally - and only after these things - find out about what it is you are supposed to do? When it comes to insight into who I am it doesn't seem to me to be a crowded field. Christianity - in the way in which it explains our capacity for greatness along with our fallenness (this being a very specific set of truths which leave most religions lying in the dust) is compelling. What is it about who you actually are - and who God is - that doesn't grip every part of you? The only other option is to pretend those things can be ignored - attempt to feed one's endless desire for sensuality - which is impossible - we always hunger for more.
If your refusal to be a Christian is a refusal to humble yourself - I can only say that I fear for you. I have found the refusal to humble myself to be an absolutely terrifying tendency living within me - immensely destructive. If you agree you might decide that while you may not wish to be a Christian that it's a good idea to be one only so that part of you (and me) doesn't completely destroy you.
Can I ask why are women teaching in the church?