Technique vs Musicality: Which is More Important?

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  • Hi, I'm Robert Estrin. This is LivingPianos.com. Today's topic is "Technique vs Musicality" There will be a lot of opinions about this subject. But truth be known, you can't really separate technique from musicality completely.
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  • @adamcolbertmusic
    @adamcolbertmusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This topic reminds me of what the guitarist Guthrie Govan said in a masterclass video. He touched on the topic of scales, particularly when guitarists learn them, but it applies to any instrument. The point in learning them isn't so that you can play up and down the scales as fast as possible. That's not really "music" any more than typing the alphabet repeatedly is "literature".

    • @mwworkman
      @mwworkman 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Guthrie is an amazing guitarist, teacher. His comment is pretty accurate. And it pretty much applies to any instrument.

    • @Fluffy-777
      @Fluffy-777 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      🙌🏼

  • @revivalofthefittestonlythe2757
    @revivalofthefittestonlythe2757 4 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    You tell em Robert, all these new players that want to play la campanella in their first year of playing!!! They are only cheating the music, not serving it. That goes for the whole moonlight sonata, clair de lune crowd too, you know... the "genius", "prodigy" memorizers, that cant read happy birthday.

    • @theroninpianist4443
      @theroninpianist4443 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This is so true... your forgot to mention Fantasie Impromptu … Generally, every new pianist are playing advanced Chopin stuff in a couple of months.

    • @Ace-dv5ce
      @Ace-dv5ce 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Ronin Pianist Really?

    • @linuseike6041
      @linuseike6041 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@theroninpianist4443 and they butcher the piece every time and almost ruin their entire technique bc of horrible habits.

    • @linuseike6041
      @linuseike6041 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      And if a player wants to play Liszt etudes in the first year, they will probably never be good. To develop properly you must study and enjoy every piece, not race through like a 3 year old child!

  • @carlbowles1808
    @carlbowles1808 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I agree with you.
    I have much musical talent, but almost no formal music education. Whenever I play acoustic Grand piano with the door closed, people listening outside are surprised. They thought they were listening to an accomplished pianist. I form a Vulcan mind meld with the piano enabling me to channel my musical ideas. Thanks for the video it makes me happier 😊👍 🌻🌅 ❤️.

  • @dewdrops515
    @dewdrops515 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is a very well explained video. Please keep up the good work!

  • @TinyMaths
    @TinyMaths 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I know very little about classical music, but when I saw the title I was thinking, are the two really mutually exclusive? on occasion I've heard the argument that 'too much technique' can be a hindrance to musicality; this seems to be an idea sometimes repeated by less proficient jazz musicians. But, for example, I remember reading Oscar Peterson's biography where he said when he was developing his abilities at the piano he noticed some difficulties related to playing certain runs with 2 hands, so he spent countless hours trying to develop his technique in that area so that the difficulty would not 'get in the way of the music', as he put it. In fact he encouraged youngsters wanting to get into jazz to take traditional lessons in piano playing, which was actually how he started, as is the case with many of the top players.

  • @dinobucz
    @dinobucz ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice discussion Robert!

  • @anoicinfo4414
    @anoicinfo4414 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Foe some reason many musicians equate technique with the ability to play fast. Especially with guitar. Playing fast is great at times but it has to be balanced properly with slower playing. I think learning improvisation skills is probably a good way to sound more musical.

  • @vicenteromeugomez-tenor3901
    @vicenteromeugomez-tenor3901 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a wonderful video! Greatings from Chile 🙌🏻🙌🏻

  • @vanguard4065
    @vanguard4065 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Piano playing consists of common sense, heart and technical resources. All three should be equally developed. Without common sense you are a fiasco, without technique an amateur, without heart a machine. The profession does have its hazards. -Vladimir Horowitz

  • @joshrogers8852
    @joshrogers8852 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful video, thank you for this Robert!

  • @danielra23
    @danielra23 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Would love to learn that piece, what is it called? 4:05 Ty

  • @p1anosteve
    @p1anosteve 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    You can't have musicality without some technique but you can have technique without musicality. No one would say Ravel was unmusical even though he was not a brilliant pianist.

  • @Savartarus
    @Savartarus 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    For me, it requires great technique to be musical

  • @lloydl7425
    @lloydl7425 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Technique is needed to realize the artistic vision. But if a person is only technical, waiting around to be struck by “musicality lightning” might not work. And good point that different pieces require different levels of technique.

  • @JariSatta
    @JariSatta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I agree, 100%

  • @kakasvk
    @kakasvk 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Who comes to my mind is Eugene Kissin, perfect technically, but often times I don't like his interpretations, especially fast Chopin, because it seems like as if he's running athletic event and I see lack of musicality in there. It's like he hasn't developed into that level of musicality/maturity even is his later years and that's why I think there are many better pianists, despite his technical perfection.

  • @orochimaruginju6868
    @orochimaruginju6868 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Different sides of the same coin!

    • @p1anosteve
      @p1anosteve 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      My thought exactly.

  • @ezekieljarek7705
    @ezekieljarek7705 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That melody you played is very similar to "A nightmare on elm Street" theme song. Maybe its just me🙄

    • @mslancine37
      @mslancine37 ปีที่แล้ว

      I agree that’s what I heard instantly lol

  • @musicman6759
    @musicman6759 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting topic.

  • @lizweekes8076
    @lizweekes8076 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you Robert. 🎉🎉🎉
    A lot of teachers don't teach techniques! Xx

  • @DivineSource444
    @DivineSource444 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the name of that piece of music please?

  • @hastensavoir7782
    @hastensavoir7782 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can Musicality be STUDIED? I feel there are naturally gifted and musical geniuses even though it’s not their passion @ all. What about the slow learners and unmusical enthusiasts?

  • @Lianpe98
    @Lianpe98 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    What's the name of the piece?

  • @TheTektronik
    @TheTektronik 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Reminds me of the guitar players on Instagram that turned guitar playing into an athletic pursuit.

  • @SimonDanellPiano
    @SimonDanellPiano 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Even someone as controversial as Hanon noted that technique and music is inseparable. "You can play poorly with technique, but you can't play well without"

  • @johnstahl8308
    @johnstahl8308 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Horowitz made mistakes and was the most musical in his time.

  • @Chorson
    @Chorson 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First