I really appreciate when people use inexperienced horses to demonstrate stuff that viewers are trying to teach their own inexperienced horses! There are very few videos like that... we can't learn through the struggles we might encounter if we're watching a horse that's done it perfectly for years! Thank you! :)
Brilliant Amelia, as usual you are so good at explaining the movement & showing us what our aids & seat are doing & what our horses should be doing! So great seeing you start this on an inexperienced horse as well. The biggest thanks, can’t wait to practice ! 😀Ros
Thank you so much im riding ny first second level in august and my horse is a dressage pro i just need to teach my self how to turn on the haunches and then i think we will practice it and be okay so thank you sooo much❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Really helpful, especially at the end where you were doing them on the rail. I get very mentally confused as I try to walk from P to R, turn on the haunches and then do shoulder in along the 1/8 line back down to P. Then turn on the forehand and do hauches in back down to the opposite letter.
Hi Amelia, Thanks so much for explaining this in a way that even a beginner like me can understand :) It's so helpful to hear someone explain what my hands and legs should be doing. I don't always know enough yet to be able to pick it up just from watching, so this was awesome. Thank you!
Greetings from Kentucky. Watch this video again with the following in mind: Stepping out as you explained is a common resistance issue. Either resistance against the outside rein, the inside rein, and/or the outside leg will cause this or a stuck leg. If you watch Amelia eliminate her inside rein to only have the outside rein asking for the horse to move its shoulders she clearly communicates that part to this lovely horse. There is another place where it is clarified that this horse has to not resist against the rider's outside leg. Those 2 issues were made clear to the horse one at a time. You can see that the horse "got it" as the improvement closely following was the proof.
Hi Amelia - I watch from Australia - I have a young Ottb who doesn’t bend very well through the body (rib cage). He is my first green horse and I feel like the reason for this is because I didn’t teach him from the basics how to bend through the body - and I’m not sure how to break it down into steps for him! Would you be able to show us how you do this?
Thank you for this question... I would probably start on the ground to teach the bending. I find that it's easier to introduce the bending and lateral work from the ground first.
I know this video is 4yo. I'm introducing the walk pirouette to my horse. Took many notes and have been practicing but I have a hard time figuring how it should look overall. I know we ride M to H (or H to M) but how do you make it so that it looks like what the judges want? How do you ride your "half-pirouette" back to your M-H line? Leg yield? 🤔 Maybe a bird's eye point of view would help visualize 😅 Wanna do it right. Help!
Great question! The walk pirouette is essentially a turn on the haunches, and it is through that pirouette (or turn on the haunches) that you do the half-turn back to your line. I know, it's hard! This video might also be helpful: amelianewcombdressage.com/dressage-training/how-to-ride-walk-pirouettes/ Stay tuned...I have a course on pirouettes coming in the spring!
Do you ever start at a stand still and do turn on the haunches and then move up to what you’re doing in this video? And is the difference between the turn on the haunches and walk pirouette that the pirouette is the 4-beat walk through the movement and the turn on the haunches is more still?
For both the turn on the haunches and the walk pirouette you want to keep the beat of the walk. They are both forward movements. I may need to make another video on this topic!!
Greetings from Kentucky. There is no rationale to ever teach or ask for a half turn on the haunches and/or half pirouette from a standstill. The video is clear and excellent. I just think that it should be said that this is done while in forward motion only. It is not like a 180° or 360° where a hind foot is planted in 1 spot as in reining competitions. If asked for from stillness your outcome could easily be a stuck inside hind as "you're asking for it" . A turn on the forehand can be taught from forward motion and then from stillness (more difficult) as that exercise expects no 4 beat continuation from stillness. The inside front stays planted when done from stillness (it only leaves 3 legs in motion: outside front and both hinds). I especially liked how you clarified both the outside rein aid and the outside leg aid to this horse to his more difficult direction one at a time. That was splendid.
Correct me if I am wrong because I may be misunderstanding. Isn't a turn on the haunches when you ask the horse to plant one hind foot to bring the front end though, like if you were cutting a cow? Or is the terminology different for that exercise? The difference to me is between forward motion and rearward motion. Thank you for the video. You are a wonderful rider.
Thank you for this question! In "western" riding yes, it is ok for the horse to pivot on the hind leg in the turn on the haunches. In dressage you will be marked down A LOT if your horse pivots in the turn on the haunches. In dressage the judge wants to see that the horse keeps the walk rhythm in the turn. Same word, different meaning for western and dressage...
@@AmeliaNewcombDressage thank you for clearing that up. I actually incorporate the walk pirouette into my riding exercises. My thoroughbred is pretty tight so I like to do lots of things with her that I can do in a forward motion in the beginning of my ride. When my mentor asked us to do them in clinics he would just say slow the hindquarters down. Thank you again!
Amelia- like many show system/ German school of dressage riders you are turning into flexion- the horse goes towards the direction that he is flexed in.. This makes your turn on the haunches a truly dis- engaging movement.. It is not an engaging movement or a collecting movement.. ALL engaging movements must always feature the horses inside hind leg stepping underneath his center of mass.. Yes I know the FEI- International show system teaches a so called haunch turn that is disengaging for the horses inside hind - but just as the FEI international system is wrong about letting Izabell Wirth get away with severely damaging hands and using the rollkurl to make her horses look as if they are somehow collected - it is wrong !! and it needs to stop.. best Bruce Peek
I really appreciate when people use inexperienced horses to demonstrate stuff that viewers are trying to teach their own inexperienced horses! There are very few videos like that... we can't learn through the struggles we might encounter if we're watching a horse that's done it perfectly for years! Thank you! :)
Brilliant Amelia, as usual you are so good at explaining the movement & showing us what our aids & seat are doing & what our horses should be doing! So great seeing you start this on an inexperienced horse as well.
The biggest thanks, can’t wait to practice ! 😀Ros
Let me know how it goes!
I like this horse! A quick learner when things are made clear. Really like the way instruction is taken by this individual.
Thank you so much im riding ny first second level in august and my horse is a dressage pro i just need to teach my self how to turn on the haunches and then i think we will practice it and be okay so thank you sooo much❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
Yay! Good for you! 💕
Really helpful, especially at the end where you were doing them on the rail. I get very mentally confused as I try to walk from P to R, turn on the haunches and then do shoulder in along the 1/8 line back down to P. Then turn on the forehand and do hauches in back down to the opposite letter.
Glad it was helpful for you!
Super helpful to see this done on a green horse!
Hi Amelia, Thanks so much for explaining this in a way that even a beginner like me can understand :) It's so helpful to hear someone explain what my hands and legs should be doing. I don't always know enough yet to be able to pick it up just from watching, so this was awesome. Thank you!
Great video! Thanks for explaining and demonstrating the begining and end products! 😊
Hope this helps!
Awesome exercise to try...thanks for explaining it so well ! 😊👌🏻
I can't get enough of Your Videos. Thanks allot ,You are the Best .
Amelia, can you do a video on helping the square halt?
Is he a bit difficult
on one side?
Thank you - explained so I understand :)
My horse sometimes likes to step out with her outside hind in the turn. Any tips for this? Thanks!
Greetings from Kentucky. Watch this video again with the following in mind:
Stepping out as you explained is a common resistance issue.
Either resistance against the outside rein, the inside rein, and/or the outside leg will cause this or a stuck leg. If you watch Amelia eliminate her inside rein to only have the outside rein asking for the horse to move its shoulders she clearly communicates that part to this lovely horse. There is another place where it is clarified that this horse has to not resist against the rider's outside leg. Those 2 issues were made clear to the horse one at a time. You can see that the horse "got it" as the improvement closely following was the proof.
My horse wants to lead with the haunch. How can I get them to start the turn with the shoulder? Thanks!
Ride shoulder- in for the set up!!
Hi Amelia - I watch from Australia - I have a young Ottb who doesn’t bend very well through the body (rib cage). He is my first green horse and I feel like the reason for this is because I didn’t teach him from the basics how to bend through the body - and I’m not sure how to break it down into steps for him! Would you be able to show us how you do this?
How many horses do you own
Emily Lipsitz just the one. I have had others before him but I bought them already educated. It’s just the bend through the rib cage that I can’t get!
@@tamekaellard8171 how many horses do you own
Thank you for this question... I would probably start on the ground to teach the bending. I find that it's easier to introduce the bending and lateral work from the ground first.
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I know this video is 4yo. I'm introducing the walk pirouette to my horse. Took many notes and have been practicing but I have a hard time figuring how it should look overall. I know we ride M to H (or H to M) but how do you make it so that it looks like what the judges want? How do you ride your "half-pirouette" back to your M-H line? Leg yield? 🤔 Maybe a bird's eye point of view would help visualize 😅 Wanna do it right. Help!
Great question! The walk pirouette is essentially a turn on the haunches, and it is through that pirouette (or turn on the haunches) that you do the half-turn back to your line. I know, it's hard! This video might also be helpful: amelianewcombdressage.com/dressage-training/how-to-ride-walk-pirouettes/
Stay tuned...I have a course on pirouettes coming in the spring!
@@AmeliaNewcombDressage oh amazing thank you!!! 😁
Yes, great lesson, Amelia. Thank you. What were your walk pirouette scores on Gatsby? 10's I am sure 👍🐴 ..
Haha no!! I wish! We’re still chasing the elusive 10 😜😜
@@AmeliaNewcombDressage how many horses do you own
Do you ever start at a stand still and do turn on the haunches and then move up to what you’re doing in this video? And is the difference between the turn on the haunches and walk pirouette that the pirouette is the 4-beat walk through the movement and the turn on the haunches is more still?
For both the turn on the haunches and the walk pirouette you want to keep the beat of the walk. They are both forward movements. I may need to make another video on this topic!!
Greetings from Kentucky. There is no rationale to ever teach or ask for a half turn on the haunches and/or half pirouette from a standstill. The video is clear and excellent. I just think that it should be said that this is done while in forward motion only.
It is not like a 180° or 360° where a hind foot is planted in 1 spot as in reining competitions. If asked for from stillness your outcome could easily be a stuck inside hind as "you're asking for it" .
A turn on the forehand can be taught from forward motion and then from stillness (more difficult) as that exercise expects no 4 beat continuation from stillness. The inside front stays planted when done from stillness (it only leaves 3 legs in motion: outside front and both hinds).
I especially liked how you clarified both the outside rein aid and the outside leg aid to this horse to his more difficult direction one at a time. That was splendid.
Hi yes I saw it , it didn’t help me answer what the hind legs are doing . Are they planted ? Or crossing over ? Or moving on the next to each other
The hind legs continue to march and keep the rhythm of the walk.
Hi miss Amelia this is laurie bohanan. How to make turn from the dressage
Hello miss Amelia. How to make a turn for the horse
Love this video! Really helpful!
Very helpful thank you.
Correct me if I am wrong because I may be misunderstanding. Isn't a turn on the haunches when you ask the horse to plant one hind foot to bring the front end though, like if you were cutting a cow? Or is the terminology different for that exercise? The difference to me is between forward motion and rearward motion. Thank you for the video. You are a wonderful rider.
Thank you for this question! In "western" riding yes, it is ok for the horse to pivot on the hind leg in the turn on the haunches. In dressage you will be marked down A LOT if your horse pivots in the turn on the haunches. In dressage the judge wants to see that the horse keeps the walk rhythm in the turn. Same word, different meaning for western and dressage...
@@AmeliaNewcombDressage thank you for clearing that up. I actually incorporate the walk pirouette into my riding exercises. My thoroughbred is pretty tight so I like to do lots of things with her that I can do in a forward motion in the beginning of my ride. When my mentor asked us to do them in clinics he would just say slow the hindquarters down. Thank you again!
Amelia- like many show system/ German school of dressage riders you are turning into flexion- the horse goes towards the direction that he is flexed in.. This makes your turn on the haunches a truly dis- engaging movement.. It is not an engaging movement or a collecting movement.. ALL engaging movements must always feature the horses inside hind leg stepping underneath his center of mass.. Yes I know the FEI- International show system teaches a so called haunch turn that is disengaging for the horses inside hind - but just as the FEI international system is wrong about letting Izabell Wirth get away with severely damaging hands and using the rollkurl to make her horses look as if they are somehow collected - it is wrong !! and it needs to stop..
best
Bruce Peek