Gian Francesco Malipiero: Sinfonie del silenzio e della morte (1908)

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  • @romanokovacs4352
    @romanokovacs4352 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Quante belle cose italiane ! Sarebbe doveroso rendere loro merito mettendole molto di più in cartellone nei nostri teatri e sale da concerto, per onorare i compositori , gratificare e ampliare le conoscenze di noi ascoltatori. Grazie

  • @ritapoli4817
    @ritapoli4817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Bellissima musica , il novecento italiano con stupendi compositori, ma musica poco conosciuta ed eseguita

  • @Duilio1948
    @Duilio1948 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Un altro autore veneto che assieme ad altri grandi veneti contemporanei come Dallapiccola, Malipiero, Luigi Nono , Bruno Maderna e altri che dimentico.. In questa aiuola fiorita sbocciano talenti al di fuori del tempo e al di sopra delle sporcizie della politica del tempo in cui essi vivono ...

  • @ambuma64
    @ambuma64 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dio mio che bella!!!

  • @antoniomoffa6989
    @antoniomoffa6989 7 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Malipiero piacevole da ascoltare e i titoli a volte ingannano. Comunque tutta la musica strumentale italiana del Novecento merita più attenzione, esecuzione e audizione

  • @goorming
    @goorming ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Best italian composer ever. Malipiero was so incredibly unique. His music is unmistakable.

    • @hungrymikepencetd5686
      @hungrymikepencetd5686 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hes good. But Monteverdi is better ;)

    • @didierschein8515
      @didierschein8515 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@hungrymikepencetd5686And Respighi and Nono.

    • @ValDroby
      @ValDroby 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Galuppi !!!!!

  • @TheWelleszCompany
    @TheWelleszCompany  12 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    His friend Casella made him know Schoenberg in that period, but it also abandoned soon those influences. Malipiero has a very particular and unmistakable musical lexicon. For a strange case, his great estimators were all German ones and his music was very performed in Germany in the years 1920-1934!

    • @franckmousset4022
      @franckmousset4022 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      From which publisher can the score be obtained?

  • @buickcityslim
    @buickcityslim 6 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    The second movement certainly sounds a bit like Mahler...which is perfectly fine with me. Malipiero is new to me, which is wonderful! After 40 years of listening to classical music, it's nice to know there are some pleasant surprises left. I'm going to certainly explore his other works. Thank you, ThewellesczCompany.

  • @FabriziodeRossiRe
    @FabriziodeRossiRe 13 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Un lavoro davvero profondo e interessante che non conoscevo...grazie !!

    • @MegaCirse
      @MegaCirse 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bonjour à toi Fabrizio 😘

  • @christianjannone1587
    @christianjannone1587 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Musique envoûtante et subtile qu'on n'oublie pas de sitôt.

  • @amirsangian3344
    @amirsangian3344 5 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Dear wellesz I'm learning lots of thing from your fantastic phenomenon music.....thank you thank you

  • @gerardbegni2806
    @gerardbegni2806 7 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Malipiero offers us a very dark piece here. His personal neoclassical technique allows him to translate efficiently into sounds the dark visions that inspire the work, which is quite impressive.

  • @123must
    @123must 11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Splendida composizione ed ottima interpretazione.
    Grazie

  • @paolopasquini9542
    @paolopasquini9542 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Grande musica. Il malvezzo italiano di sottovalutare i suoi grandi compositori non dodecafonici del 900 ( Rota , Malipiero ) sconcerta.

    • @gabykappscomposermariagabr749
      @gabykappscomposermariagabr749 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Assolutamente sì. Siamo talmente esterofili da rasentare il cretino.

    • @bergkristall73
      @bergkristall73 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Solo Rota e Malipiero?

    • @towardthesea_
      @towardthesea_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bergkristall73Respighi (of course), Casella, Busoni, Perosi, Pilati, Alfano, Pizzetti, Wolf-Ferrari, Amendola (I only know his string quartet), Petrassi, Ghedini...some of these are little-known because of their association with Mussolini, I guess

    • @antoniomartiradonna9498
      @antoniomartiradonna9498 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@towardthesea_ Sir you are right, all those composers were fascists. All successful artists were fascists, composeres, painters and sculptures , Not fascists not famous. It was stupid dictatorship.

    • @franckmousset4022
      @franckmousset4022 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@towardthesea_ If we must forget all the Italian composers of the years between two world wars, under the pretext that they would have been fascists, then we must also forget Stravinsky, Orff etc...

  • @iaminohurry1412
    @iaminohurry1412 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The timpani part at 27:37 is one of my favorites to play 😊

  • @artistnd2819
    @artistnd2819 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Che POESIA.. dovrebbe essere piú diffuso.. 🥰

  • @lauragolinelli1077
    @lauragolinelli1077 7 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Malipiero è un grande del Novecento. La sua musica dovrebbe essere più eseguita.

    • @gabykappscomposermariagabr749
      @gabykappscomposermariagabr749 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Concordo.

    • @DmaathenDmaathen
      @DmaathenDmaathen 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Secondo me è invece uno dei più inutili e prolissi compositori italiani. Questa "sinfonia" è specchio di eclettismo kitsch e maldestro. Non si capisce cosa voglia esprimere, persino il suo titolo è in totale contrasto, anzi estraneità, rispetto alla musica. In ogni caso, una massa confusa e roboante di temi mediocrissimi. Le ultime battute con il temino romantico sono la ciliegina sulla torta.

    • @alessiostabile5571
      @alessiostabile5571 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@DmaathenDmaathen il secondo te con cui apri esprime forse un giudizio meno mediocre? Estrapolare un brano del genere dal contesto storico di ricerca non fa onore alla tua critica basata non su fatti oggettivi ma personali..... i temi così mediocrissimi non potrebbero essere frutto di una riflessione sulla semplicità e / o una ricerca gregoriana dell'epoca ? Ricerca che forse anche allo stesso compositore era fonte di incertezza e domanda? Ricordo vagamente qualcosa sulla perdita della partitura? Non ricordo.... comunque i pregi di un brano musicale vanno, o meglio dovrebbero andare, oltre il mi piace o il secondo me....

    • @antoniomartiradonna9498
      @antoniomartiradonna9498 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DmaathenDmaathen Sottoscrivo ogni parola del suo commento . Bravo . L'autore in questo brano è velleitario. Non si comprendono così tanti giudizi encomiastici di altri ascoltatori !

    • @MegaCirse
      @MegaCirse 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@antoniomartiradonna9498 😒

  • @MegaCirse
    @MegaCirse 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There is a dominant theme at the heart of Malipiero's work, which can only be translated by the language of sounds: that of time which advances inexorably, gradually altering beings and things in its path, towards death and oblivion 💫

  • @jonathanwood8588
    @jonathanwood8588 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bellissima e perfetta per la lettura dei romanzi Kinghiani

  • @joshuasussman4020
    @joshuasussman4020 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great symphony.

  • @luciano1759
    @luciano1759 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ottima esecuzione di una musica affascinante e poco nota. Grazie

  • @TahseenNakavi
    @TahseenNakavi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Splendid! I am adding Malipiero to my list of great composers that I listen to.

  • @sonicsnap1173
    @sonicsnap1173 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am discovering this composer. Very lovely music!

  • @keiththomas795
    @keiththomas795 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great posting this, thanks. Haven’t heard this work for years or in fact any of this talented composer of whom we hear little. I realise now why I obtained a copy of this work long ago.

  • @hyseo1121
    @hyseo1121 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One of the greatest italian composer along with Dalapicola

    • @scriabinist434
      @scriabinist434 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dallapiccola

    • @MadMusicologist
      @MadMusicologist 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Malipiero also was a great teacher. Among his students: Luigi Nono, and his merits as teacher surpassed the "technical" aspects, he also linked his students to other music greats of his time.

  • @donsomaro9969
    @donsomaro9969 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    If you like Malipiero's music, you must listen his String Quartet n. 3, which was composed in 1931. You'll be strucked by it!

    • @alessandro2421
      @alessandro2421 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Hrazie per il suggerimento

  • @bowerdw
    @bowerdw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A fine work, apparently lurking in obscurity on TH-cam since 2011. I enjoyed listening to it.

  • @gswilmore6755
    @gswilmore6755 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Quite beautiful and previously unheard of. Thanks.

  • @robertoc.2726
    @robertoc.2726 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for posting! This composer is quite new to me

  • @franckmousset4022
    @franckmousset4022 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Magnifique.

  • @giacobbeneviozanivan8610
    @giacobbeneviozanivan8610 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Davvero molto bello. Non conoscevo quasi nulla dell'autore. Una scoperta. Grazie.

  • @kokonssp
    @kokonssp 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    lyrical and excellent symphony

  • @Zugol1
    @Zugol1 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Un chef-d'oeuvre absolu.

  • @chuck1240
    @chuck1240 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Veramente ottima :)

  • @franckmousset4022
    @franckmousset4022 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    C'est très beau et magnifiquement orchestré.

  • @josefranciscogomezuribe4279
    @josefranciscogomezuribe4279 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Autor descubierto pero fascinante la composición e interpretación.

  • @luismuralbertos1647
    @luismuralbertos1647 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Qué música!

  • @peterluth
    @peterluth 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Fine work and good directed. It remind me of Mussorgsky's music.

  • @PaulSmith-qs1es
    @PaulSmith-qs1es 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems kind of cheerful for its title. :-P

  • @kuang-licheng402
    @kuang-licheng402 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    good tune

  • @iaminohurry1412
    @iaminohurry1412 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    la parte dei timpani alle 27:37 è una delle mie preferite da suonare

  • @kuang-licheng402
    @kuang-licheng402 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    rare piece

  • @emanuel_soundtrack
    @emanuel_soundtrack 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    just saw the thumbnail and destroyed my day lol gonna watch later

  • @TheWelleszCompany
    @TheWelleszCompany  12 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I don't know that work of Novak, but I think that Malipiero didn't know this author. Malipiero since the first his work has wanted to estrange the more possible from the German (or of German area) music, because it had a bad opinion of it. The first compositions for orchestra hear again particularly some influences of the French music.
    The only moment of its life in which the German music had a strong influence was around 1918-1919, when it came to knowledge of the expressionism.

  • @abdul7591
    @abdul7591 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I think much of Malipiero's pre-1950 music is quite beautiful. I also think that the difficulty Almeida has in these performances is that he does not seem to handle the more dissonant passages as expertly as the softer ones. The playing of the former strikes me as more rough, less well-rehearsed. By the way, is it just my imagination, or do certain passages in the first movement of this work sound a bit like Vitezslav Novak, for example, the Slovak Suite?

  • @alexandrecosta2708
    @alexandrecosta2708 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Grazzie - veramente una scorpeta con "S". Almeida? Poverino...

  • @AlbertoFord-m8w
    @AlbertoFord-m8w ปีที่แล้ว

    Does anyone know the name and author of the painting that illustrates the video?

  • @franckmousset4022
    @franckmousset4022 ปีที่แล้ว

    Qualcuno sa se la partitura di quest'opera è pubblicata e da quale editore?

  • @ПустьбегутНеуклюжи
    @ПустьбегутНеуклюжи 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Иногда прослушивается мелодия из ВЕСНА СВЯЩЕННАЯ И.Ф.Стравинского.

  • @MrGabrielepp
    @MrGabrielepp 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Off topics - posso chiedere maggiori informazioni sul l’opera di Fontanesi?

  • @mesecisenke
    @mesecisenke ปีที่แล้ว

    18:00 ❤❤

  • @MarcoInchingolo83
    @MarcoInchingolo83 3 ปีที่แล้ว

  • @michelangelomodica6445
    @michelangelomodica6445 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    di chi è il dipinto ?

    • @sisolab
      @sisolab 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Giorgio de Chirico

    • @scriabinist434
      @scriabinist434 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Antonio Fontanesi (1818-1882)

  • @lukasmiller486
    @lukasmiller486 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who else is listening to this in 2023?

  • @ChillinDylan2875
    @ChillinDylan2875 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    27:30
    27:02

  • @t25-n8b
    @t25-n8b 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    11:20

  • @DmaathenDmaathen
    @DmaathenDmaathen 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ti faccio i più sinceri complimenti per il tuo canale, che porta contributi eccellenti alla diffusione di un patrimonio oscuro e di valore inestimabile. Ma questa composizione è un inutile, confuso e prolisso polpettone. A tratti, il non saper prendere una direzione, da parte di Malipiero, rasenta il ridicolo (senti solo quando attacca la fanfara).