I got my e-Power a few weeks ago. Ordered it & 8 days later drove it away. My Nissan dealership has been great, they even got me a number plate with my initials on it. They always do this & scan the number plates list & see if they can find one, sometimes they can't. Anyway, I love it. So quiet and when engine kicks in it sounds like a fan. In Sport mode it's nice & throaty. The interior is smart with stitching & a nice wipe-able fabric. The drive is always in ev mode & is a joy. My previous Scenic had more boot space & had storage under seats. The ePower doors close with a satisfying thunk.
I took a qashqi e-power tekna out for a test drive and like the drive very much it was quick, smooth and quiet.a lovely car to drive very practical and quality made. So I purchased it immediately I was very impressed get it end of September can't wait.
Hi, I hope you are not disappointed. We have had an e-power Qashqai for nearly a year now. Delighted with the car. Initially I was only getting around 48mpg but I have learnt to drive the car efficiently and regularly return over 62mpg. Use the E-pedal in town only. Once you get up to 35mph go to D+Eco lift and coast when conditions allow and you will be surprised how little speed will be lost. So many people report poor mpg but based on my experience that is down to poor driving and not the technology.
My theory: You have bought qualitative low gasoline. We have the same here in Germany - it all costs ruthly the same but, some gas stations sell you s***t which is not worth your money. As a Qashqai ePower owner I can say I am really shocked with a few youtubers reporting high gasoline usages for this car. Here in Germany I can somehow reproduce different results by using different gas from different gas stations (e.g. Shell vs. Aral), where you can easily spot that one gives you better results than the other (independent of the car - was the same for my old Hyundai as well as Opel before). However, I am very uncertain about the vast underperformance some youtubers report for the Qashqai ePower. Without even trying I easily drive it between 4,6 and 5,8 liters in the city. I did not change my driving habits from my previous car I sold two weeks ago, but the gas consumption dropped a lot. So again, not sure what some youtubers are filling in their gas tanks or how they are driving - but I can say that my gas consumption has dropped a lot by simply switching the cars.
My UK Qashqai doesn't have the same body issues you state. From mixed driving of very short to 100 mile round trips with and without aircon. After just over 700 miles I am averaging a calculated 47.27MPG or 5.98 ltrs/100k.
I think the video somehow missed the target customer group of this car: People who like the instant power and acceleration of electric cars, without having access to charging stations or wanting to wait the time it takes to recharge. I bought a Qashqai ePower because I definitely wanted a Qashqai this time around - and the ePower simply has the best driving performance of them all, as it drives just like any other "real" electic car.
I find it amusing how people criticise the e-power without actually understanding it. Some would have us believe it is the devil incarnate! They totally miss the point. Often they will heap praise on the Toyota Hybrid system which has a smaller battery and uses the CVT gearbox which isn't particularly efficient, adds significantly more complexity to the drive train and overall weight of the vehicle. They demonstrate how little they actually know. Regularly quoting thermal efficiency and planetary gears, which you won't find in any gearbox. Planetary gears are found in the differential, they allow the outside wheel to turn faster than the inside wheel when going round corners. However, it sounds to them at least that they know what they're talking about!
I have driven the e-power on a 2 hour journey and driving sensibly achieved 62 MPG, doing the school run around town averages 55MPG +, so not that bad.
I think there must be a fault in my car then, because genuinely never achieved anything like these figures - no matter what mode, econ, driving like a pensioner. I really do not rate this car.
I get the thought behind this concept - less weight, more interior space and more efficient use of fuel (in theory). Also cheaper to build and buy. But a regular plug-in hybrid will actually be cheaper to run as a city-dweller, which is where the Qashqai is aimed at. I figured for my own needs as a city-dweller I'd need to fill the tank on a plug-in hybrid to cover roughly a month of longer trips . . for the whole year. The rest will be covered by charging around once every two days, assuming achievable 60 km real-world electric range. Nissan (and Honda for that matter) are trying to give new sense of something that has been made sense of 👀
Marek still the best car reviewer who tells the truth and I trust his word, opinion and experience. That’s why I got my countryman, he got one I bought one and I’m not disappointed.
Thanks. And I still have no idea, what I could replace it with, when the lease is up. It's a long lease, so if it proves reliable, I guess I'll just have to keep it for 20 years, and then I'll go for an "old money" look :)
It looks like you can get the electric vehicle experience without having an electric vehicle with this e-power. Not cheaply though... From the consumption standpoint. It made me think about the diesel-electric locomotives, by the way. 🙂
I think this tech is just underdeveloped. Combined with the cost I see it late to the party, which is a bit of a waste. V good review spotting the odd as well as the even. Your explanation 👌 at the inception is the best for correctness, conciseness and effectiveness among quite a few more than one or two I saw. 👏 Bravo!
Have a test drive, then judge. Firstly it great to drive always in EV mode. Great acceleration even in Eco it's not laggy & in Sport it's fast. Inside it's lush & door closing is satisfying thunk.
Sorry mine have 7900khm i have no open Cover on the Passenger Side and i drive 50 liters fuel 95 octan over 1000 khm with 1 fuell tank some Times 4.9 liters some Times 5.7 liters when i Punch the Car . Im verry happy white mine and i d`ont wanth change Ok the Price is high 47.900 eur for tekna Version But before i Drive a Cla Pfuuu a horrible Car evry hole on the Street i jumping in the Car i doing 680-750 khm with 60 Liter Diesel. Im sorry evrry Mercedes Idiot is happy with Mercedes evrything fine an this Car having probleme with a door by mine a plastic cover fall up an consume a lots op Diesel. And this ar drive horrible i buying new in Amg Line . So i will never change my QQ vs a Mercedes again but Mercedes evrithing fine. The poeple c`ant bee Stupid somethimes. Sorry
I know people who own the Toyota Hybrid and all exclusively say that long-distance driving destroys the fuel economy of their Toyota. They all report excellent fuel consumption around town. Our e-power is returning an average of 62mpg mixed driving. The Toyota Hybrid system works on the electric motor up to around 30mph. Above 30mph, the engine takes over the duties of propelling the vehicle. The electric motor then only assists when extra power is required. The overly complicated drive train is inefficient. Few people within the motor trade hold the CVT gearbox in high regard. People who report poor fuel consumption figures with the e-power just don't know how to drive it efficiently. Many of those people actually state that they drive exclusively in E-pedal. E-pedal is fine in town up to about 35mph. Out of town D+Eco is way more efficient. Intelligent use of the available driving modes will reward drivers with healthier returns on fuel consumption.
Thanks Marek, I’ve been waiting for this one to understand how it works and I like the concept. It’s a good looking car but the exposed equipment under the frame near the rear wheel looks terrible like something is missing. For the price I think I would give this one a body swerve as it looks unfinished and unrefined.
not sure I got the difference to Honda's tech. I have a Honda HR-V and it's great (mainly on low speed), and I easily have 4.5 average l/100k.
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I did my test drive today with qashqai 2023. Here in this video it looks like something is broken down there. I didn't see any strange issues like that.
e-Power is an absolute waste of money - Marek is 100% correct (am now a subscriber, as can see he really is right where other reviews totally miss the points). Go for the regular. in 10k miles of driving, my average is 40mpg. Driving in econ mode on a long motorway journey, lucky to get 45mpg. Had multiple issues with the infotainment, the 'smart' car assist system is an absolute pain - hard stopping me multiple times when i was totally in control of the vehicle. Had technical glitch which meant that the air con system/ electrical unit had to be replaced under warranty. The 'internal' engine sounds clangy and horrible when it switches on. Premium price for a car that is NOT premium. Will be ditching it at the first opportunity. Can't wait to get shot of it. Feel totally ripped off.
But do they really get those results or do they simply quote Nissan brochure? Also, what was the weather they were testing it in? I'm sure you're aware that EVs are not very good in cold weather, and since this is almost like an EV, the battery performance also suffers in low temperatures.
@@MarekDrivesENG They tested it in Italy of course and the results are to there to be seen. As for you, where are your results? Or do you simply advertise Toyat cars?
I own e power and I easily make 5 l/100 km. It all depends on how you drive and how long your trip is. My single trip length usually falls between 10-20 km. So I make 4.5-5.5l/100 easily depending on the situation on the road. I absolutely love this car. Yes, e-power is not cheap, but I like EV feeling it provides. And consumption is Ok too. If you always drive less than 10 km per trip then it’s not worth buying maybe, as real petrol saving starts from 8th km approximately. Then consumption drops significantly.
I made already over 3K km and my overall consumption is 5.2l/100 km. I never trust fully any reviews in terms of consumption, as most of the reviewers have their own way of using the car, as filming for example. Still these numbers are subjective rather than objective. E-power perfectly fits me and my way of driving the car (btw I am not a slow driver). Marek has an independent view when reviewing cars. But it is still subjective in some aspects.
That is true for most if not all gasoline hybrid cars if you commute on highways. The real problem is that people (like yourself) doesent understand where hybrids are the best option. Hybrids excels in city driving and some country roads, but in prolonged speed over say 100 km/h they arent as efficiant as a lean diesel. Many countries tax diesels to hell and this is where hybrids become intresting as long as you dont drive lots of highways.
Other drivers do way much better. He drives it for a day. You have to learn how to use e-Power as I am doing & driving in EV mode is, well electric! Have a free test drive then judge it.
No matter how much I like Japanese cars, what in the world are they trying to get here?! Burning fossil fuel, getting electricity, storing it, using it for pulling the car.... Crazy! This is a matter of basic middle school physics. Noone should expect to get low GASOLINE consumption when the energy needs to be converted THREE times... Efficiency is just too low .... Marek, the review is rather great, thanks for your effort! 🔥👍🦎
I totally agree. You can't escape the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Whenever you convert energy, you loose some of it. And as you said, here you loose three times. This is a cynical exercise in greenwashing from Nissan. Inefficient process, tons of marketing bs.
And you had a test drive & asked questions? No you didn't did you. I've watched many reviews here & they all like it, I got one & it's a great car, go for a test drive then judge.
I have only been a passenger in 1st and 2nd generation Nisan Qashqai... Nice cars to be in, roomy and comfortable. Never quite liked the concept itslef of a suv.... Ok... Lots of space but they spend much more fuel and don't go as well. I dint get SUVs
Yes I have. I used to buy vehicles professionally. It's not e-powered, really. It's just that the engine is disconnected from the direct drive train and acts as a generator to power the 'electric drive'. It doesn't feel any more an EV than a normal HEV. This means it can be noisy at speed, where it only averages low-mid 40s mpg. It's likely to be a decent vehicle (good as a lease, I wouldn't advise buying one), but there are better alternatives around (the Peugeot 3008 is far more comfortable and feels nicer inside). On the plus side, the ride is decent around town, low speed refinement is okay, and the 504 litre boot is a good size. If you are going to BUY one, as opposed for leasing, it's probably worth going for a nearly-new Tekna, but it will use almost as much petrol as a conventional ICE powered variant, so I'd suggest the TCOA will make sense over the vehicle's lifetime. And here's a revolutionary thought, it is possible for somebody to say something with which you disagree without the lazy appellation 'troll' being flung about.
Marek Drives in English : Opel Ampera 2012 already had that topology of an propulsion always electric motor that had alongside a generator 1.4 Inline4 internal combustion engine to charge the battery and provide direct electricity to all of the less essential systems. Nissan didn't develop anything new here !!!!
When you showed that open bit on the underside, my first thought was that you were going to tell us that something had fallen off the car already (or broken). Nothing would surprise me - Nissan lost its way when it got into bed with Renault (all the quality being replaced by cheapness) and I say that as somebody who's owned several Renaults. As for the e-Power system, what a joke. The sick part is that some people might actually think it's a good idea. Also, the claimed power output for the e-Power version is unsustainable - the engine itself develops much less than 190bhp and since the engine is what charges the battery (and the traction battery capacity is microscopic), ultimately that is the practical limit of the system.
I thought hybrid Hondas and Toyotas mostly use a similar size of petrol engine to the Nissan? (1.5-1.6 litres) And which chain are you referring to? Toyota hybrids have used chain drive for years and they are very robust- or are you referring to chain- driven camshafts? I agree with another comment here, that the difference between the Honda and this Nissan system is left unclear, except that the Honda engine directly drives the wheels at high speed (and Honda seem to get greater efficiency, for reasons again unclear). Also Marek implies that Toyota's system is typical of full hybrids, which really isn't the case- it is one on its own. No wonder the public get confused; Im not sure many reviewers fully understand the various hybrid systems, which is why they fall back on manufacturers' blurb
Ii’s a Opel Ampera/ Chevrolet Volt in a Japanese suv disguise that have a useless battery and a thirsty petrol engine. Instead they should have made the Qashqai a 1.6l diesel (no adblue) with a 25 kWh battery.
@@mariokajin I was thinking about getting a new X Trail or Quasquai! I was stunned by the comments here. The Quashqai isn’t received well here. I saw many comments about the Mazda CX5 or you now with CX60. Wow. Mazda looks great! I am looking for a good, comfortable SUV. No German car! Japanese only for me.
So, a petrol engine converts fuel to electricity to charge a DC battery, which goes through an inverter to change it to AC, so it can power the motor which drives the wheels.. Thats one inefficient drivetrain. No wonder the fuel economy is so poor. Putting better batteries in the Leaf and a CCS plug would have been more useful. Ill give Nissan credit for hringing out the 1st "affordable" ev, which was the Leaf, but they have disappointed since with their vehicles.
So despite a significant price rise the toyota hybrids are still the cheapest to buy vs its hybrid competitors competitors ie Honda and Nissan and are the cheapest to run in its mpg better than Nissan and Honda so I'll stick with my toyota Corolla
There's a given amount of energy in the petrol so the question is, does this use more of that energy to propel the car or not. I don't know the answer, but here's my thoughts. Much of the energy in the fuel is lost in internal friction and resistance within the petrol engine. Of course, that's the same on a conventional petrol car, so what about the transmission? Here, you take whatever power output the engine has and convert it into electrical energy, then you either send it to the small battery or use it in the motor. In the case of the battery I doubt if you can retrieve all the power that goes in and with the motor and gears there will be more power loss. On a conventional car of course there's power loss in the gearbox and final drive. Interesting question, since the reviews of the Qashqai e-power don't make it appear at all efficient. Maybe the mechanical transmission's the better option.
I'm not very good with physics, but I have a rough estimate regarding ICE vs. BEV today. With battery and electric motor technology in EVs TODAY (not in a year or two), in order to achieve real life motorway range comparable to a petrol or diesel car, the EVs with longest claimed range today would need to carry at least double the batteries. This is a rough estimate, but we can safely assume that an 80-100 kWh battery car today can drive for maybe 300 km at high speed. And we can assume that an ICE car of comparable size (especially with a diesel engine) can go about 600 km at high speed. Of course, doubling the batteries would make the BEV too heavy (for practical and legal reasons), and less efficient. Carmakers are trying to get around that with new battery chemistry, new motors, and aerodynamics. I think if they worked more on aero on their ICE models, they could achieve cost effective reduction of emissions.
There's no gearbox on the e-power, clearly less losses. Yes there's a differential, there's got to be. The engine has variable compression. It isn't under the same load as an engine that is connected to a gearbox. If driven efficiently the e-power will give excellent returns. I regularly achieve 62mpg. Taking into account the size and shape of the car I think that's an excellent return. The reviewer complained that every time he starts the car he has to manually select the E-pedal function. I suggest that is the reason he didn't get impressive fuel consumption. Up to about 35mph in town the E-pedal is fine. Above 35mph in free flowing traffic you will get better mpg in D+Eco. The real issue here is a lack of basic understanding.
@@Raw-Coffee-Bean My Mazda 2 averages almost 59 MPG without any of the complications of full hybridisation. (This figure is the average for all driving conditions and over the last three and a half years) This with a 1500cc petrol engine and a six speed gearbox. I love driving and have never enjoyed automatics, so I don't feel cars like the Nissan are for me.
@stephenfrost2272 The Mazda 2 isn't the same size as a Qashqai. It's significantly smaller. I was getting over 80mpg with a 1.0 litre 3 cylinder Yaris. Great LITTLE car! Point being little! We all have different needs and obviously we need different cars. Your Mazda 2 wouldn't work for us, but that doesn't make it a bad choice. The e-power Qashqai fits our needs and delivers excellent fuel economy. A full EV would be better, but the charging infrastructure isn't there yet. As long as your Mazda 2 is kept well serviced, it should continue to provide good transport for a long time to come. The answer to your question about is manual transmission better. The answer is no. The e-power doesn't have a gearbox at all. It will have a final drive unit. Will your Mazda 2 be as efficient today as it was when it left the factory? No! Wear and tear will reduce its efficiency. All that friction you mentioned will see to that. Perpetual motion hasn't been achieved yet, and I believe it can't be achieved on earth. Everything wears out eventually, even us. I hope I haven't made anyone feel I'm trying to sell them a Qashqai. It is a personal choice. I am not even claiming that the Qashqai is the best option. I am, however, challenging the many claims that it isn't a good car. Those who claim that it isn't fuel efficient either haven't driven one or have driven one badly. Many people claim the Toyota Hybrid system is better. They often talk about thermal losses, quoting thermal laws, etc. Ignoring the obvious fact that the Toyota has an unnecessarily overly complicated transmission system that adds weight to the vehicle. It has a smaller battery. The battery powers the car up to 30mph, after that, the engine takes over. The electric motor then only assists the engine when required. So, it is ultimately a matter of opinion as to which system is more efficient. Smarter people than me can argue the point on that one. For myself, as a retired motor vehicle technician, the CVT gearbox is the weakest link, and the extra weight involved in the transmission set up. One final point, a petrol engine is only around 25% efficient, diesel around 33% from memory. Electric motors, I think the claim is around 90% efficient. I would think combining the two (petrol/ electric) would produce a vehicle more efficient than just an ICE petrol powered vehicle.
@@mickdaly6537 Initially I was only getting 48mpg. However, getting to know the car that has improved. Nissan recommends D+Eco as the most efficient option but I didn't read that till after I got to know the car.
Have you driven one? No, of course not. Nearly 700miles on one tank in Eco mode & in town Regen braking means the engine hardly comes on. People are dissing it based on a hate Qashqai. I get mine 2 days away. I'm going to have driving it, Sports & Eco.
As far as I can tell, this is just a way, way worse version of a Chevrolet Volt. It's a bad EV and a bad gas car. It lacks the EV-only range to be useful, I'd still have to refuel it over at Shell and their buddies instead of charging it at home, it's complicated for the sake of being complicated (i.e. more components to fix)... oh, and it completely lacks the quirks of a Chevrolet Volt or a Cadillac ELR, which makes it not interesting from a design standpoint (inside and out). This is a candidate for the Worst Car Of The Year, if you even have such a list.
Thanks for the deep dive into hybrid tech Marek. It's a bit weird that the efficiency isn't good with this, given that in mixed driving the Honda system operates similarly and seems to. be able to get pretty close to Toyota's. I hope at least the driving experience is better than the standard Qashqai, or otherwise it really would be pointless.
@@MarekDrivesENG Put a larger battery in this thing and you get a pretty good ReX (BEV+range extender). That might be what Nissan has in its mind here. From the engineering perspective I can see some interests in what they try to do here: - This is design for the Japanese market where the road speed limit is 60mk/h and where the norm is city driving. At low speed, decoupling the electrical engine and the generator allow the generator to always run at peak efficiency. e-note based on this configuration sells very well in Japan. - That prepare the road for a full EV plateform since the powertrain is already 100% electrical. - You can get 4 a wheel drive configuration with 2 electrical engine without drive shaft and save interior space with this design. What they need to work on however is the efficiency which looks pretty terrible for now.
Interesting point about speed limit in Japan, but most of Europe it's 30-50 km/h within city limits, so it should be fine. It's the low(ish) temperatures killing this thing. And e-4ORCE in the X-Trail did very good off road. Although fuel economy was crap. th-cam.com/video/EnnynBxxK7E/w-d-xo.html
The Honda system, the engine is connected directly to the driven wheels at least some of the time. The e-power, the engine, has no direct mechanical connection to the wheels. Driving the e-power permanently in the E-pedal will hurt fuel consumption. If driven correctly, it will easily achieve over 62mpg. The issue is that people do not understand how to drive the car efficiently. If you own one, try driving in D+Eco when out of town or speeds above 40mph. Lift and coast when conditions allow. It will lose very little speed. Sorry to say this reviewer failed to drive the car efficiently, if he had he would have been impressed with the car. The fact that he was disappointed he had to select the E-pedal manually every time he restarted the car tells it's own story.
Driven Honda Civic and Nissan Qashqai e power, both with similar technology (practically the same approach) in powertrain, but yet, Civic is not to noisy, and Nissan ePower really feels like a CVT gearbox is fit on acar with a very small engine lacking power. Civic is much more reaponsive on the throtle, and accelartions when overtaking are much more convincing with lesser noise (or no nois). Could be that Honda simply has a better engine and better dumping (which is, let's be hones expected), but those are my impressions. Just a note, i refer only to engine noise not wind noise and tyre roll noise. Did not really had chance to compare economy.
I got my e-Power a few weeks ago. Ordered it & 8 days later drove it away. My Nissan dealership has been great, they even got me a number plate with my initials on it. They always do this & scan the number plates list & see if they can find one, sometimes they can't. Anyway, I love it. So quiet and when engine kicks in it sounds like a fan. In Sport mode it's nice & throaty. The interior is smart with stitching & a nice wipe-able fabric. The drive is always in ev mode & is a joy. My previous Scenic had more boot space & had storage under seats. The ePower doors close with a satisfying thunk.
I took a qashqi e-power tekna out for a test drive and like the drive very much it was quick, smooth and quiet.a lovely car to drive very practical and quality made. So I purchased it immediately I was very impressed get it end of September can't wait.
Hi, I hope you are not disappointed. We have had an e-power Qashqai for nearly a year now. Delighted with the car. Initially I was only getting around 48mpg but I have learnt to drive the car efficiently and regularly return over 62mpg. Use the E-pedal in town only. Once you get up to 35mph go to D+Eco lift and coast when conditions allow and you will be surprised how little speed will be lost. So many people report poor mpg but based on my experience that is down to poor driving and not the technology.
Love my e-power as well. Can concur with your experience.
@@Raw-Coffee-Beanhow do you coast? I've just got mine. In town drive B-ep. There's lots of ways to learn but I'm not sure what to do.
My theory: You have bought qualitative low gasoline. We have the same here in Germany - it all costs ruthly the same but, some gas stations sell you s***t which is not worth your money.
As a Qashqai ePower owner I can say I am really shocked with a few youtubers reporting high gasoline usages for this car. Here in Germany I can somehow reproduce different results by using different gas from different gas stations (e.g. Shell vs. Aral), where you can easily spot that one gives you better results than the other (independent of the car - was the same for my old Hyundai as well as Opel before).
However, I am very uncertain about the vast underperformance some youtubers report for the Qashqai ePower. Without even trying I easily drive it between 4,6 and 5,8 liters in the city. I did not change my driving habits from my previous car I sold two weeks ago, but the gas consumption dropped a lot. So again, not sure what some youtubers are filling in their gas tanks or how they are driving - but I can say that my gas consumption has dropped a lot by simply switching the cars.
Nissan filled this car up, so I can't tell you what's in the gas tank.
Maybe your driving habits are better, than those of youtubers ;)
My UK Qashqai doesn't have the same body issues you state. From mixed driving of very short to 100 mile round trips with and without aircon. After just over 700 miles I am averaging a calculated 47.27MPG or 5.98 ltrs/100k.
I think the video somehow missed the target customer group of this car: People who like the instant power and acceleration of electric cars, without having access to charging stations or wanting to wait the time it takes to recharge. I bought a Qashqai ePower because I definitely wanted a Qashqai this time around - and the ePower simply has the best driving performance of them all, as it drives just like any other "real" electic car.
Yes, it's neither of those things :)
I find it amusing how people criticise the e-power without actually understanding it. Some would have us believe it is the devil incarnate! They totally miss the point. Often they will heap praise on the Toyota Hybrid system which has a smaller battery and uses the CVT gearbox which isn't particularly efficient, adds significantly more complexity to the drive train and overall weight of the vehicle. They demonstrate how little they actually know. Regularly quoting thermal efficiency and planetary gears, which you won't find in any gearbox. Planetary gears are found in the differential, they allow the outside wheel to turn faster than the inside wheel when going round corners. However, it sounds to them at least that they know what they're talking about!
I concur. Wonderful car and technology.
I have driven the e-power on a 2 hour journey and driving sensibly achieved 62 MPG, doing the school run around town averages 55MPG +, so not that bad.
I think there must be a fault in my car then, because genuinely never achieved anything like these figures - no matter what mode, econ, driving like a pensioner. I really do not rate this car.
I'm really enjoying my nissan qashqai e power
im glad one of us is!
I get the thought behind this concept - less weight, more interior space and more efficient use of fuel (in theory). Also cheaper to build and buy. But a regular plug-in hybrid will actually be cheaper to run as a city-dweller, which is where the Qashqai is aimed at. I figured for my own needs as a city-dweller I'd need to fill the tank on a plug-in hybrid to cover roughly a month of longer trips . . for the whole year. The rest will be covered by charging around once every two days, assuming achievable 60 km real-world electric range. Nissan (and Honda for that matter) are trying to give new sense of something that has been made sense of 👀
Marek still the best car reviewer who tells the truth and I trust his word, opinion and experience. That’s why I got my countryman, he got one I bought one and I’m not disappointed.
Thanks. And I still have no idea, what I could replace it with, when the lease is up. It's a long lease, so if it proves reliable, I guess I'll just have to keep it for 20 years, and then I'll go for an "old money" look :)
It looks like you can get the electric vehicle experience without having an electric vehicle with this e-power.
Not cheaply though... From the consumption standpoint.
It made me think about the diesel-electric locomotives, by the way. 🙂
I think this tech is just underdeveloped. Combined with the cost I see it late to the party, which is a bit of a waste. V good review spotting the odd as well as the even. Your explanation 👌 at the inception is the best for correctness, conciseness and effectiveness among quite a few more than one or two I saw. 👏 Bravo!
Have a test drive, then judge. Firstly it great to drive always in EV mode. Great acceleration even in Eco it's not laggy & in Sport it's fast. Inside it's lush & door closing is satisfying thunk.
@@seltaeb3302 will do
Sorry mine have 7900khm i have no open Cover on the Passenger Side and i drive 50 liters fuel 95 octan over 1000 khm with 1 fuell tank some Times 4.9 liters some Times 5.7 liters when i Punch the Car . Im verry happy white mine and i d`ont wanth change Ok the Price is high 47.900 eur for tekna Version But before i Drive a Cla Pfuuu a horrible Car evry hole on the Street i jumping in the Car i doing 680-750 khm with 60 Liter Diesel. Im sorry evrry Mercedes Idiot is happy with Mercedes evrything fine an this Car having probleme with a door by mine a plastic cover fall up an consume a lots op Diesel. And this ar drive horrible i buying new in Amg Line . So i will never change my QQ vs a Mercedes again but Mercedes evrithing fine. The poeple c`ant bee Stupid somethimes. Sorry
Despite the grey day, the long shadow that Toyota projects on the efficiency of ePower may well indicate a setting sun for Nissan.
I know people who own the Toyota Hybrid and all exclusively say that long-distance driving destroys the fuel economy of their Toyota. They all report excellent fuel consumption around town. Our e-power is returning an average of 62mpg mixed driving. The Toyota Hybrid system works on the electric motor up to around 30mph. Above 30mph, the engine takes over the duties of propelling the vehicle. The electric motor then only assists when extra power is required. The overly complicated drive train is inefficient. Few people within the motor trade hold the CVT gearbox in high regard. People who report poor fuel consumption figures with the e-power just don't know how to drive it efficiently. Many of those people actually state that they drive exclusively in E-pedal. E-pedal is fine in town up to about 35mph. Out of town D+Eco is way more efficient. Intelligent use of the available driving modes will reward drivers with healthier returns on fuel consumption.
Marek, great job! Nice overview, i like qashqais, and japanese cars:)
Thanks! 😃
Thanks Marek, I’ve been waiting for this one to understand how it works and I like the concept. It’s a good looking car but the exposed equipment under the frame near the rear wheel looks terrible like something is missing. For the price I think I would give this one a body swerve as it looks unfinished and unrefined.
They say it's not a bug, it's a feature :)
Surprised the review for this Qashqai is fairly negative given the Xtrail Hybrid review is much more positive? They use the same tech.
not sure I got the difference to Honda's tech. I have a Honda HR-V and it's great (mainly on low speed), and I easily have 4.5 average l/100k.
I did my test drive today with qashqai 2023. Here in this video it looks like something is broken down there. I didn't see any strange issues like that.
e-Power is an absolute waste of money - Marek is 100% correct (am now a subscriber, as can see he really is right where other reviews totally miss the points). Go for the regular. in 10k miles of driving, my average is 40mpg. Driving in econ mode on a long motorway journey, lucky to get 45mpg. Had multiple issues with the infotainment, the 'smart' car assist system is an absolute pain - hard stopping me multiple times when i was totally in control of the vehicle. Had technical glitch which meant that the air con system/ electrical unit had to be replaced under warranty. The 'internal' engine sounds clangy and horrible when it switches on. Premium price for a car that is NOT premium. Will be ditching it at the first opportunity. Can't wait to get shot of it. Feel totally ripped off.
Yup, another Troll aren't you, nice try.
Mike Shinoda doing car reviews on TH-cam? Who would've predicted the turn of events.
That's a new one 🤣
@@MarekDrivesENG sorry, I had to comment that, I am an old Linkin Park fan :)
I don't mind :)
It should start making a list of these comparisons, and then one day do a meetup 😂
I wonder why in Italy all the testers could always go under 5litres/100km in cities, and this guy couldn’t go under 6litres/100km 🤔
But do they really get those results or do they simply quote Nissan brochure? Also, what was the weather they were testing it in? I'm sure you're aware that EVs are not very good in cold weather, and since this is almost like an EV, the battery performance also suffers in low temperatures.
@@MarekDrivesENG They tested it in Italy of course and the results are to there to be seen. As for you, where are your results? Or do you simply advertise Toyat cars?
If I were to show you my results, they would be even worse with the car idling during filming :)
I own e power and I easily make 5 l/100 km. It all depends on how you drive and how long your trip is. My single trip length usually falls between 10-20 km. So I make 4.5-5.5l/100 easily depending on the situation on the road. I absolutely love this car. Yes, e-power is not cheap, but I like EV feeling it provides. And consumption is Ok too. If you always drive less than 10 km per trip then it’s not worth buying maybe, as real petrol saving starts from 8th km approximately. Then consumption drops significantly.
I made already over 3K km and my overall consumption is 5.2l/100 km. I never trust fully any reviews in terms of consumption, as most of the reviewers have their own way of using the car, as filming for example. Still these numbers are subjective rather than objective. E-power perfectly fits me and my way of driving the car (btw I am not a slow driver). Marek has an independent view when reviewing cars. But it is still subjective in some aspects.
Great car, love my Kuro
So it returns worse fuel mileage than a normal diesel car. Good job.
That is true for most if not all gasoline hybrid cars if you commute on highways. The real problem is that people (like yourself) doesent understand where hybrids are the best option. Hybrids excels in city driving and some country roads, but in prolonged speed over say 100 km/h they arent as efficiant as a lean diesel. Many countries tax diesels to hell and this is where hybrids become intresting as long as you dont drive lots of highways.
Other drivers do way much better. He drives it for a day. You have to learn how to use e-Power as I am doing & driving in EV mode is, well electric! Have a free test drive then judge it.
@@lazlo09people fill the tank up & get 600+ miles from 55ltrs. I've yet to do a long drive but if true then that's a good result.
No matter how much I like Japanese cars, what in the world are they trying to get here?! Burning fossil fuel, getting electricity, storing it, using it for pulling the car.... Crazy! This is a matter of basic middle school physics. Noone should expect to get low GASOLINE consumption when the energy needs to be converted THREE times... Efficiency is just too low ....
Marek, the review is rather great, thanks for your effort! 🔥👍🦎
I totally agree. You can't escape the 2nd law of thermodynamics. Whenever you convert energy, you loose some of it. And as you said, here you loose three times. This is a cynical exercise in greenwashing from Nissan. Inefficient process, tons of marketing bs.
@@jayjayvolz8553 true, true 👍🔥
@@jayjayvolz8553I've managed to escape the 2nd law of thermodynamics and regularly return 62mpg with our e-power Qashqai
And you had a test drive & asked questions? No you didn't did you. I've watched many reviews here & they all like it, I got one & it's a great car, go for a test drive then judge.
I have only been a passenger in 1st and 2nd generation Nisan Qashqai... Nice cars to be in, roomy and comfortable.
Never quite liked the concept itslef of a suv.... Ok... Lots of space but they spend much more fuel and don't go as well. I dint get SUVs
Great review of a not so great car!
So you've driven a ePower Qash then? I doubt it Mr Troll.
Yes I have. I used to buy vehicles professionally. It's not e-powered, really. It's just that the engine is disconnected from the direct drive train and acts as a generator to power the 'electric drive'. It doesn't feel any more an EV than a normal HEV. This means it can be noisy at speed, where it only averages low-mid 40s mpg. It's likely to be a decent vehicle (good as a lease, I wouldn't advise buying one), but there are better alternatives around (the Peugeot 3008 is far more comfortable and feels nicer inside). On the plus side, the ride is decent around town, low speed refinement is okay, and the 504 litre boot is a good size. If you are going to BUY one, as opposed for leasing, it's probably worth going for a nearly-new Tekna, but it will use almost as much petrol as a conventional ICE powered variant, so I'd suggest the TCOA will make sense over the vehicle's lifetime.
And here's a revolutionary thought, it is possible for somebody to say something with which you disagree without the lazy appellation 'troll' being flung about.
Alot of e power cars are having failed generator mine is currently at dealer being changed 2500 miles
Troll suspected!
It is a full hybrid
👍for your review, 👎for nissan
His opinion, have a test drive & ask questions, as I did & I got one. Great car & it's beautifully finished.
For my the tech makes sense only with 4wd with twin motors.
What a show 😎✊🏿💯
Honda ZR-V review please🙏🏻
I asked Honda about press car availability. They didn't even bother replying, so I guess not this year.
Marek Drives in English : Opel Ampera 2012 already had that topology of an propulsion always electric motor that had alongside a generator 1.4 Inline4 internal combustion engine to charge the battery and provide direct electricity to all of the less essential systems. Nissan didn't develop anything new here !!!!
Nissan... I was never attracted to their products. They've always lagged behind everybody imo. Anyways, thanks for the video though Marek.
My first Nissan. Great job by the Geordies in Sunderland. Best car I've had, looks great inside & out, mine is 2024 version.
When you showed that open bit on the underside, my first thought was that you were going to tell us that something had fallen off the car already (or broken). Nothing would surprise me - Nissan lost its way when it got into bed with Renault (all the quality being replaced by cheapness) and I say that as somebody who's owned several Renaults.
As for the e-Power system, what a joke. The sick part is that some people might actually think it's a good idea.
Also, the claimed power output for the e-Power version is unsustainable - the engine itself develops much less than 190bhp and since the engine is what charges the battery (and the traction battery capacity is microscopic), ultimately that is the practical limit of the system.
I thought hybrid Hondas and Toyotas mostly use a similar size of petrol engine to the Nissan? (1.5-1.6 litres) And which chain are you referring to? Toyota hybrids have used chain drive for years and they are very robust- or are you referring to chain- driven camshafts? I agree with another comment here, that the difference between the Honda and this Nissan system is left unclear, except that the Honda engine directly drives the wheels at high speed (and Honda seem to get greater efficiency, for reasons again unclear). Also Marek implies that Toyota's system is typical of full hybrids, which really isn't the case- it is one on its own. No wonder the public get confused; Im not sure many reviewers fully understand the various hybrid systems, which is why they fall back on manufacturers' blurb
Ii’s a Opel Ampera/ Chevrolet Volt in a Japanese suv disguise that have a useless battery and a thirsty petrol engine. Instead they should have made the Qashqai a 1.6l diesel (no adblue) with a 25 kWh battery.
You sound salty. Are you salty?
@@corporatemcmahon2815 no just it’s a missed opportunity to create a suv that actually makes sense (Mazda CX60/70/80).
@@mariokajin I was thinking about getting a new X Trail or Quasquai! I was stunned by the comments here. The Quashqai isn’t received well here. I saw many comments about the Mazda CX5 or you now with CX60. Wow. Mazda looks great! I am looking for a good, comfortable SUV. No German car! Japanese only for me.
Rubbish. Your viewpoint that is. My car is great.
@@corporatemcmahon2815have a test drive first, then judge as I did. Great car.
So, a petrol engine converts fuel to electricity to charge a DC battery, which goes through an inverter to change it to AC, so it can power the motor which drives the wheels..
Thats one inefficient drivetrain. No wonder the fuel economy is so poor.
Putting better batteries in the Leaf and a CCS plug would have been more useful.
Ill give Nissan credit for hringing out the 1st "affordable" ev, which was the Leaf, but they have disappointed since with their vehicles.
So despite a significant price rise the toyota hybrids are still the cheapest to buy vs its hybrid competitors competitors ie Honda and Nissan and are the cheapest to run in its mpg better than Nissan and Honda so I'll stick with my toyota Corolla
Yes, but Toyota Corolla Cross has terrible seats (especially front passenger seat), and no sound deadening to speak of.
There's a given amount of energy in the petrol so the question is, does this use more of that energy to propel the car or not. I don't know the answer, but here's my thoughts. Much of the energy in the fuel is lost in internal friction and resistance within the petrol engine. Of course, that's the same on a conventional petrol car, so what about the transmission? Here, you take whatever power output the engine has and convert it into electrical energy, then you either send it to the small battery or use it in the motor. In the case of the battery I doubt if you can retrieve all the power that goes in and with the motor and gears there will be more power loss.
On a conventional car of course there's power loss in the gearbox and final drive. Interesting question, since the reviews of the Qashqai e-power don't make it appear at all efficient. Maybe the mechanical transmission's the better option.
I'm not very good with physics, but I have a rough estimate regarding ICE vs. BEV today. With battery and electric motor technology in EVs TODAY (not in a year or two), in order to achieve real life motorway range comparable to a petrol or diesel car, the EVs with longest claimed range today would need to carry at least double the batteries.
This is a rough estimate, but we can safely assume that an 80-100 kWh battery car today can drive for maybe 300 km at high speed. And we can assume that an ICE car of comparable size (especially with a diesel engine) can go about 600 km at high speed.
Of course, doubling the batteries would make the BEV too heavy (for practical and legal reasons), and less efficient. Carmakers are trying to get around that with new battery chemistry, new motors, and aerodynamics.
I think if they worked more on aero on their ICE models, they could achieve cost effective reduction of emissions.
There's no gearbox on the e-power, clearly less losses. Yes there's a differential, there's got to be. The engine has variable compression. It isn't under the same load as an engine that is connected to a gearbox. If driven efficiently the e-power will give excellent returns. I regularly achieve 62mpg. Taking into account the size and shape of the car I think that's an excellent return. The reviewer complained that every time he starts the car he has to manually select the E-pedal function. I suggest that is the reason he didn't get impressive fuel consumption. Up to about 35mph in town the E-pedal is fine. Above 35mph in free flowing traffic you will get better mpg in D+Eco. The real issue here is a lack of basic understanding.
@@Raw-Coffee-Bean My Mazda 2 averages almost 59 MPG without any of the complications of full hybridisation. (This figure is the average for all driving conditions and over the last three and a half years) This with a 1500cc petrol engine and a six speed gearbox. I love driving and have never enjoyed automatics, so I don't feel cars like the Nissan are for me.
@stephenfrost2272 The Mazda 2 isn't the same size as a Qashqai. It's significantly smaller. I was getting over 80mpg with a 1.0 litre 3 cylinder Yaris. Great LITTLE car! Point being little! We all have different needs and obviously we need different cars. Your Mazda 2 wouldn't work for us, but that doesn't make it a bad choice. The e-power Qashqai fits our needs and delivers excellent fuel economy. A full EV would be better, but the charging infrastructure isn't there yet.
As long as your Mazda 2 is kept well serviced, it should continue to provide good transport for a long time to come.
The answer to your question about is manual transmission better. The answer is no. The e-power doesn't have a gearbox at all. It will have a final drive unit. Will your Mazda 2 be as efficient today as it was when it left the factory? No! Wear and tear will reduce its efficiency. All that friction you mentioned will see to that. Perpetual motion hasn't been achieved yet, and I believe it can't be achieved on earth. Everything wears out eventually, even us. I hope I haven't made anyone feel I'm trying to sell them a Qashqai. It is a personal choice. I am not even claiming that the Qashqai is the best option. I am, however, challenging the many claims that it isn't a good car. Those who claim that it isn't fuel efficient either haven't driven one or have driven one badly. Many people claim the Toyota Hybrid system is better. They often talk about thermal losses, quoting thermal laws, etc. Ignoring the obvious fact that the Toyota has an unnecessarily overly complicated transmission system that adds weight to the vehicle. It has a smaller battery. The battery powers the car up to 30mph, after that, the engine takes over. The electric motor then only assists the engine when required. So, it is ultimately a matter of opinion as to which system is more efficient. Smarter people than me can argue the point on that one. For myself, as a retired motor vehicle technician, the CVT gearbox is the weakest link, and the extra weight involved in the transmission set up.
One final point, a petrol engine is only around 25% efficient, diesel around 33% from memory. Electric motors, I think the claim is around 90% efficient. I would think combining the two (petrol/ electric) would produce a vehicle more efficient than just an ICE petrol powered vehicle.
My last comment - honestly! "A full EV would be better". Exactly.
Excellent video for an expensive, wuerthless, chipmade, fake suv. Thanks Marek. / U* y***s Nissan.
What a load of rubbish music bro messed up the whole video
Over priced mediocre car which does not return in fuel savings
I regularly get over 62mpg with our e-power Qashqai. I guess it's a question of knowing how to drive one efficiently.
@@Raw-Coffee-Bean fair play your getting more then the manufacturer says car will do
@@mickdaly6537 Initially I was only getting 48mpg. However, getting to know the car that has improved. Nissan recommends D+Eco as the most efficient option but I didn't read that till after I got to know the car.
Have you driven one? No, of course not. Nearly 700miles on one tank in Eco mode & in town Regen braking means the engine hardly comes on. People are dissing it based on a hate Qashqai. I get mine 2 days away. I'm going to have driving it, Sports & Eco.
As far as I can tell, this is just a way, way worse version of a Chevrolet Volt. It's a bad EV and a bad gas car. It lacks the EV-only range to be useful, I'd still have to refuel it over at Shell and their buddies instead of charging it at home, it's complicated for the sake of being complicated (i.e. more components to fix)... oh, and it completely lacks the quirks of a Chevrolet Volt or a Cadillac ELR, which makes it not interesting from a design standpoint (inside and out). This is a candidate for the Worst Car Of The Year, if you even have such a list.
Sounds about right, unfortunately.
As a previous owner of an Opel Ampera I could not agree more!
@@odracirsotam The Ampera's a cool car. What did you replace it with?
@@thearousedeunuch for now a Renault Gran Scénic 1.5dCi EDC, but I intend to go full electric as soon the used market prices in Portugal regularize.
@@odracirsotam Portugal? Estamos mesmo em todo o lado... até no canal do Marek! Porque trocaste o Ampera pela Scénic? :)
🥱🥱🥱 another underwhelming Nissan.
I've seen better from them.
So…basically, Nissan’s “e-Power” is a scam 😂
The electric car are for reach people .
I'll stick to my 2019 Normally aspirated Honda 1.5 VTEC manual...... nothing goes wrong and still averaging over 50 mpg UK..!
What puzzles me is BMW had a better system in 2014 with the I3 REX.
If you want electric but not fully EV this is it. I have a Nissan Kicks and I love the electric e-drive motor.
Thanks for the deep dive into hybrid tech Marek. It's a bit weird that the efficiency isn't good with this, given that in mixed driving the Honda system operates similarly and seems to. be able to get pretty close to Toyota's. I hope at least the driving experience is better than the standard Qashqai, or otherwise it really would be pointless.
TBH I think this is a compliance car. I'd rather stick Leaf batteries in it, and make it a city-only crossover larger than e2008.
@@MarekDrivesENG Put a larger battery in this thing and you get a pretty good ReX (BEV+range extender). That might be what Nissan has in its mind here.
From the engineering perspective I can see some interests in what they try to do here:
- This is design for the Japanese market where the road speed limit is 60mk/h and where the norm is city driving. At low speed, decoupling the electrical engine and the generator allow the generator to always run at peak efficiency. e-note based on this configuration sells very well in Japan.
- That prepare the road for a full EV plateform since the powertrain is already 100% electrical.
- You can get 4 a wheel drive configuration with 2 electrical engine without drive shaft and save interior space with this design.
What they need to work on however is the efficiency which looks pretty terrible for now.
Interesting point about speed limit in Japan, but most of Europe it's 30-50 km/h within city limits, so it should be fine. It's the low(ish) temperatures killing this thing.
And e-4ORCE in the X-Trail did very good off road. Although fuel economy was crap. th-cam.com/video/EnnynBxxK7E/w-d-xo.html
The Honda system, the engine is connected directly to the driven wheels at least some of the time. The e-power, the engine, has no direct mechanical connection to the wheels. Driving the e-power permanently in the E-pedal will hurt fuel consumption. If driven correctly, it will easily achieve over 62mpg. The issue is that people do not understand how to drive the car efficiently. If you own one, try driving in D+Eco when out of town or speeds above 40mph. Lift and coast when conditions allow. It will lose very little speed. Sorry to say this reviewer failed to drive the car efficiently, if he had he would have been impressed with the car. The fact that he was disappointed he had to select the E-pedal manually every time he restarted the car tells it's own story.
Driven Honda Civic and Nissan Qashqai e power, both with similar technology (practically the same approach) in powertrain, but yet, Civic is not to noisy, and Nissan ePower really feels like a CVT gearbox is fit on acar with a very small engine lacking power. Civic is much more reaponsive on the throtle, and accelartions when overtaking are much more convincing with lesser noise (or no nois). Could be that Honda simply has a better engine and better dumping (which is, let's be hones expected), but those are my impressions. Just a note, i refer only to engine noise not wind noise and tyre roll noise. Did not really had chance to compare economy.
My Mazda CX5 Diesel is cheaper and more economical and looks better (for me).