You can always use AA/PA/PS to cancel out of anything, including an ACS stagger. You counter that by using your own AA immediately after your opponent.
it doesn t work for slicer, chainsaw and other multihit weapons. also you can extend stagger time with a hard hitting weapon like a shotgun or a lcs, then the oponent can't pop AA or PA
@@J.aime_le_pain181 the opponent usually will pop out their AA/PA before or right after they get staggered, not waiting for the opponent to attack them during ACS overload
You should try seeing if you can find any Trash Panda footage out there. Kind of a legend name in the Pvp scene for getting S rank with a chainsaw only melee build
You mean in the A to S Promotion Matches(10 Matches), he win 8 matches with a chainsaw only melee build？ That was incredible. Definitely the king of kings.
The AI Arena actually sets you up for failure in PVP. They input read you, dodging things like pistol or rifle shots to your exact time, yet they will get hit by attacks that have warning indicators, which PVP players will do better at dodging. The movement of a human opponent is completely different, and a PVP target is far better at using distance. You will need to forget everything.
There's one more reason why the chainsaw is inconsistent in PvP. Simply put, the enemy is not where he appears to be. Everything you see from the enemy had already happened less than a second ago.. Where the enemy is on his screen matters. Even though landing the hit on his ghost will cause him to take the hit, the damage dealt relies on where the real him took the hit. The chainsaw's damage is depends on how much of its hitbox you've shoved into the enemy. Unlike other melee weapons who'll do full damage upon barely touching you, the chainsaw will do less damage the less the hitbox is touching the enemy. Even staggering the enemy will not fix this issue. You need to hit the real him to do full damage. This also proves a lot about how online works in this game. It's why mr.big boots boost kicks land on you even though you are 150m away from it. BTW, missiles are not subject to this at all. They will go after the real enemy, even though on your screen they are going to his ghost.
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I know you're chinese when you said "Too young too simple".
haha，you know that
You can always use AA/PA/PS to cancel out of anything, including an ACS stagger. You counter that by using your own AA immediately after your opponent.
it doesn t work for slicer, chainsaw and other multihit weapons. also you can extend stagger time with a hard hitting weapon like a shotgun or a lcs, then the oponent can't pop AA or PA
@@J.aime_le_pain181 the opponent usually will pop out their AA/PA before or right after they get staggered, not waiting for the opponent to attack them during ACS overload
@@RizkT511 unless they do it preventively, I think there is a short window where they can't
You should try seeing if you can find any Trash Panda footage out there. Kind of a legend name in the Pvp scene for getting S rank with a chainsaw only melee build
You mean in the A to S Promotion Matches(10 Matches), he win 8 matches with a chainsaw only melee build？ That was incredible. Definitely the king of kings.
@@TheRedCometatRubicon yeah he's fucked, no idea how he did it
Been looking for videos but have found none
The AI Arena actually sets you up for failure in PVP. They input read you, dodging things like pistol or rifle shots to your exact time, yet they will get hit by attacks that have warning indicators, which PVP players will do better at dodging. The movement of a human opponent is completely different, and a PVP target is far better at using distance. You will need to forget everything.
yeah，you are right
There's one more reason why the chainsaw is inconsistent in PvP. Simply put, the enemy is not where he appears to be. Everything you see from the enemy had already happened less than a second ago.. Where the enemy is on his screen matters. Even though landing the hit on his ghost will cause him to take the hit, the damage dealt relies on where the real him took the hit. The chainsaw's damage is depends on how much of its hitbox you've shoved into the enemy. Unlike other melee weapons who'll do full damage upon barely touching you, the chainsaw will do less damage the less the hitbox is touching the enemy. Even staggering the enemy will not fix this issue. You need to hit the real him to do full damage.
This also proves a lot about how online works in this game. It's why mr.big boots boost kicks land on you even though you are 150m away from it.
BTW, missiles are not subject to this at all. They will go after the real enemy, even though on your screen they are going to his ghost.
Thank you for your response, it has given me a better understanding of the game mechanics
@@TheRedCometatRubicon Oh right.....And everyone can use expansions when staggered. It's not a latency thing. The NPCs are just nice to you about it.
@@dangerwarg9682 Yeah，you are right.
Hey i think i encountered you a couple times, i was running dual chang chens and VE-60LCAs
Nice to meet you here.