Honestly Caroline is one of the best characters ever. In the beginning she was deemed a shallow girl who was obsessed with boys but she went through a lot and her charter arc is the best of all. (Elena on the other hand……)
Bruh Caroline was fine and just wanted to be left alone. She truly wasn’t doing anything bad when she turned it off but they kept trying to force her to and she retaliated. They should have left her alone and none of that stuff would have happened. She most likely would have had her letter.
@@wxndagranger9734 if I remember correctly it been a while didn’t elena bite the opposite member of the cheer team they were competing against and then their was that whole pretending to be Katherine thing also I almost forgot when she first turned it off she pulled a Damon and attack a couple in the car and another girl who she saw Jeremy make out with after that’s what she was mad at him and a lot of others while Caroline just went off to sing she didn’t start to get physical and eat people until they wouldn’t just leave her alone for a while Edit: Also Elena killed Matt that made her turn her humanity on but everything was ok because that was the plan the entire time and they had him wear the ring
@@Lucky_72 Damon killed Matt, not Elena. And, she did feed on people, but the only person she killed, was the waitress; AFTER she told Stefan and Damon to leave her alone… And the reason she pretended to be Katherine, was to get information out of Elijah: (whom she didn’t know was EM, in Katherine’s phone) Had Damon not lied to her about why he wanted to take her to NYC, she never would’ve pretended to be “Kitty Kat” Soo… If everyone would’ve left Elena alone like she asked, a lot of what happened wouldn’t have. Damon stopped her from killing the Woman that tried to “help her” when she was laying in the road- it wasn’t a couple: And, she did feed on the cheerleader, because she wanted her blue ribbon. Elena started to attack her own Friends: she tried to kill Caroline & Bonnie- She was mad Rebeka wasn’t prom Queen, and Bonnie was: and Caroline went after her, because Elena hurt her Mom, when she pushed her. That’s why Damon & Stefan wanted her to flip her switch back to on: and if not for Katherine, she might’ve gotten worse. Katherine is the one that let her out of the cell- which led her to finding Matt, and feeding on him. She tried calling Damon’s bluff when he said he’d kill Matt if she didn’t flip her switch; and he did: but everyone except Elena remembered he was wearing the ring.
@@maggieshy8704 Thank you so many people seem to forget that little fact. Elena also said that maybe they should just leave Caroline to it as she seemed to be able to control herself still without her humanity. Stephan was the one that pushed Caroline over the edge when he tried to get her to switch it back on.
@@yomnaislam948 we do get that, but i think the comment was saying when caroline turned off her humanity she called out elena a lot. eg :”i compelled liam to kill stefans niece and you find a way to make it about you? you trying have a gift elena.”
I hate it when ppl say Elena turned her humanity of when it was actually Damon who used the sire bond so Elena didn’t even get a choice, Caroline was literally there when it happened as well
The sire bond between elena and damon isnt real!! Only hybrids can have a sire bond the witch lady said too.. Since elena had feelings for damon before she got turned they became stronger ever since she became a vamp
@@silllyygooose your the fucking dumbass for not believing the sire bond is real it literally happened to Damon like a century before and Elena killed somebody because Damon told her to and she couldn’t drink blood until Damon said it was ok so the sire bond is very much real
I remembered losing my dad a few years back and idk why but I always related to Caroline especially in this scene. Problem is there is no escaping the worst part of the pain. Just have to feel it until one day it doesn't hurt so bad.
Its not a sire bond its just Elenas feelings for Damon are heightened because shes a vampire now do u not remember?? When a person gets turned all there emotions are heightened to like 100%
Okayyy, to answer a lot of people's weird ideas that Elena was trying to make this about herself. She was just giving Caroline a real example. A smart person learns from other people's mistakes as well. In the end, Caroline regretted it.
When Caroline shut her humanity off after her mum died was really heartbreaking for her,she really has been through alot if pain and she just wants to turn it off,so she doesn't have to feel anymore pain😫😫😭😭
Funny how none of the Mickelson's turned off their humanity. NEVER . Not when Celeste died (Elijah). Not even when Hayley died. Not when Klaus couldn't be with Hope. Not when Davina was killed. Neither Marcel nor Kol turned theirs off. Why is so hard for everyone else to deal with pain😂
@@iliks4905 exactly, and they went through much they had already felt it all The switch wasn't real real, it just numbed stuff but it was all still there they still felt things- it didn't actually exist
@@erenyeager9618 it’s about the original Mikaelson family. If we’re considering ALL of them, Hayley turned it of too (Don’t know if it was ever confirmed tho)
That we know of. The Originals and TVD focused mostly on present day. Yes, there were flashbacks for every character and we never saw the Mikaelsons turn it off, but who’s to say they never did?
Also point to note Caroline was perfectly fine even with her humanity turned off. I feel like it would've been okay for her to have stayed like that was a little longer
personally im glad we can't flip a switch because most of us would do it without having a plan or being fully aware what that means. Caroline did. she derseved her year no pain and the others should've respected that decision and left her alone imo
Idk why people hate Elena so much she is an okay character she just never really got to make any of her own decisions and people get mad at her for crying all the time but basically all of her family is dead and the people she care about are always getting put in danger I would be crying too also people say she doesn't care about her friends but she has tired to sacrifice herself multiple times for them but never had the chance because No One lets her make any of her own decisions
@@alijade101 i'm not saying she is perfect but people just hate on her to hate she has done nothing wrong on purpose I mean I like Caroline and Bonnie but Caroline can be a little much sometimes and Bonnie can be annoying sometimes but that just means that there not perfect and that means the writers did a good job of not making them perfect because then people can relate to the character more I mean yeah Elena does have her flaws but so do every single other character but for some reason they decide not to look at there's and focus more on Elena's because she's the main character
Uhh they should've just left her alone (or call Klaus, that would be fun) literally everyone in the show turned their humanity off when they felt too much pain, Caroline lost both of her parents, she literally had no one left, and they couldn't just gave her some time and let her cope with her loss, she wasn't doing anything bad, she promised she won't hurt anyone, she just needed time, I think Caroline was the one who understand what turning feelings off really means, it mean you don't feel paint, not that you have to go and kill everything you see... And her so called "friends" obviously don't care about her at all (or they are just stupid.... maybe both) even though they understand how much pain she feels I think no-humanity Caroline should've just run away with Klaus, that would be perfect..
Before the Elena haters (and for some reason Damon lovers) start coming for my girl, just go back and watch EXACTLY how Elena turned off her humanity and before you come back and comment. Let’s go see the “choice” she made.
Everyone keeps saying that Elena didn’t turn her humanity by choice. I get that, but y’all are forgetting that she literally asked Alaric to erase her memories of her relationship with Damon cuz she couldn’t handle the pain. 😑 hypocrites
Yeah but that bit her in the ass hella hard so she literally watched two cautionary tails unfold. She’s even seen Stefan with his humanity off. Literally nothing good ever comes of it so why she would want to do it seems kind of dumb.
That's right.But that was probably the only time when Elena made that kind of HUGE mistake by herself.People always blame her for that,but they should understand her.Her boyfriend was dead, her friends were spilted, her best friend (Bonnie) was dead.And she was carrying so much pain so she decided to erase some.And she regreted for that very much.And now she is trying to help her friend who is in the same situation. Sorry if they are grammatic mistakes, i'm not American
You know Caroline was one of the hardest vampire to turn there humanity back on bc she turned it off on her mothers funeral so there was no family to help her and her mother was the only person she could’ve counted on for anything and then she died so yh
Honestly Caroline understood what turning iff her wmitions meant. Age was actually kind of was responsible in a way. Unlike Elena, Stefan, and Damon who went on killing sprees. Did she kill? Yeah, but definitely not as much as she could’ve.
She has a point if they can do it so can she maybe not right but we all need healing in any way possible sometimes and I understand I shut off all emotions before to and it did feel very freeing until I missed feeling anything then it all came back but it was a good lesson in my life to never shut it off ever again like that because life is pain and joy all at the same time that's just the way it's.
Catherine or Klaus would have been the two perfect people in this moment. Catherine because she never turned off her humanity so she could walk Caroline through the grief and Klaus because he would have let her live with her humanity off and been there for her. She wouldn't have retaliated and would have been safe at the same time.
Caroline said the Elena turnd it of too only for her brother but she lost everything hole her family and Caroline only her parents and Stefan and Elena turnd it of bc of Damon and the bloodband she couldn’t do anything about it and everyone is angry at her about that
Thank you! Caroline is being extremely short-sighted & self-involved for someone who knows Elena lost 5 parental figures-FIVE-in 18 months and should have understood that losing Jeremy was more to Elena than just losing her brother, it was losing the last of her family & the only reason she even completed the transition to being a vampire in the first place. Caroline never really looses her shallowness; she never really thinks through all the implications of something until it threatens to hurt her personally. As far as we know, Caroline still has her mother’s 2 sisters somewhere, she still has blood family left but Caroline just doesn’t care about them, doesn’t care that Elena understands not only the pain of orphan-hood but knows what it’s like to lose the last of your blood family & her warnings are far from vain, rather they’re entirely valid. Especially when you stood by as Elena what stripped of her humanity by force instead of by choice then when you couldn’t deal with the consequences of Humanity Free Elena you actively participated in the torture that was the restoration of her Humanity (the infliction of extra suffering) because you wanted her to be your sweet, fluffy plaything that never fights back instead of the complete person who dares to turn your own attitude back on you. Caroline is absolutely being a rewriter of history so as to intentionally manipulate Elena. Honestly, imo, early HF Caroline & ordinary vampire Caroline are so similar because Caroline seems to have barely any emotional intelligence to begin with never mind the capacity to sympathise and she doesn’t even seem to know the word empathy let alone understand the concept on even an intellectual level.
Caroline is and forever will be one of the beset characters that was brought to the screen. The character development she had over all the seasons is to live for. I just wished we got to see more of her and her daughter.
I remember when i first started watching this show I didn’t like Caroline and at the end she was my favorite. I even liked her more than Elena. After Katherine died Caroline was the protagonist to me❤
It's so cringe they act like it's just a switch they get to flip on and off. Vampire the masquerade at least makes you deal with it every step along the way
Some things just hit you different after losing someone close to you. (Mom) This scene for instance, now hits me differently. I lost my mom back in June. I watch this series a lot. Watched it a lot even before my mom passed. Even though this show is about supernatural beings, I never really liked the whole, turning off of the humanity switch aspect. I guess it's because I didn't find it fair. Even being a supernatural type show, lol. But now watching this after losing my mom, I would give anything to have one of those humanity switches.
Except Elena didn't turn it off. Damon forced it off! Also, how is reminding your friend how bad a person can get without humanity making it about yourself.
Stefan literally does this multiple times over in multiple different situations/contexts… but no one calls him self-centred/selfish/egotistical or accuse him of making it about himself; characters & viewers alike see it for what it is-someone who has experienced too much imparting the lessons learned from that first hand experience. In other words, when Stefan does it it’s accepted as a sincere attempt to help, but if Elena does it it’s somehow insincere & she’s a self-absorbed, cold-hearted, controlling narcissist. The hypocrisy & double standards is infuriating… especially when Elena wouldn’t have experienced a fraction of the pain causing her to learn those lessons in the first place if it weren’t for the rest of the Gang’s choices to treat her like a mindless plaything. Ugh!
@@jessicadangerfield1539 Yes! There are valid reasons to have issues with Elena but I feel like half of the fandom either makes things up, just hates teen girl and how they act, hates her more than other characters who did the same thing she did, or hates her more for letting a character get away with something than they do the character for doing the bad thing.
I hated this scene so much because Elena had NO CHOICE in turning off her humanity. She was sired to Damon when he told her to turn it off. He left her no choice in turning it off. Now she did choose to erase her memories and that is fair for Caroline to use against her but the humanity switch was not. I don’t think that they should have intervened if Caroline really needed it and let her have some time away from her grief. Part of Caroline’s issues was that they tried to get her to turn it back on so they gave her the only copy of her mom’s last words to her that no else even read first so she lost even more on the other side of her humanity switch.
After my moms death I would’ve given anything to turn off my humanity. I don’t blame Caroline for turning off her humanity and they should’ve just left her alone.
I hate elma sm always end up bringing her name to EVERYTHING. Her mother just died yet she still had the audacity to say “you saw it when I did it” “biggest mistake IVE just made” I mean yes she CAN be a good friend but also can be selfish
Are you dumb she was warning Caroline about how she would regret turning her humanity off and how it wasn’t the easy way out. Y’all love hating on Elena for literally anything like how does saying “I” make her selfish
@@Ohhhthatsnot- no are you fucking dumb? U just a bias to Elena bruh and who tf make things about themself after their friend mom died like yes I know she trying to warn her but still made it most about her, she didn’t even say much about her mom but telling her how “bad” it was when SHE had her humanity off.
@@Ohhhthatsnot- okay I know that lmao literally just said that but still always gotta put her name and what about her mom huh? I know you’ll be mad if your friend only cared about saying how bad it was for them but not asking about you.
Next thing caroline broke elena neck.. I loved that part cos I like caroline and bonni they are always saving live of Elena even though elena messed up all things.. Really I don't like elena in this show... If tvd part 2 will come just don't include elena..
I'm not going to be rude but when stefan died she should ended up with klaus yeah he had camille however when she became a vampire she was off ...and plus I think deep down she really liked klaus especially in legacies and the originals I wanted them to end up together 💓
Nah but Elena fr made everything about herself. Caroline was trying to tell her and express the pain that she was feelings while Elena just standing rheir mentioning about her mistakes.
I cannot stand how selfish Elena was at points. And honestly, Care was the most sufficient no humanity vampire ever. If they would have just left her tf alone nobody would've died, AND Care could have read the letter she ended up burning.
Nah she was right tho elena made the wrong choice and then declared caroline couldn’t make the same choice I know it’s cause she cares but if it was me and my mother just died all of it would just sound like condescending bs cause caroline is much more controlled then elena
See that's why I support Elena on this. When your friend is making the same mistake that you made (which caused you to lost something or someone) they'll stop you and Elena tried to do just that. But people just hate her without trying to see that she's not a horrible person
TBH tho they should have just left Caroline alone. She had the BEST control out of all of the vamps and wasn’t doing anything bad until they interfered. She literally told them she would behave and not hurt anyone if they just left her alone for a year and she was sticking to that promise right up until they didn’t hold up their end of the bargain. She’s the only one who ever turned off their humanity that didn’t just start killing or attacking people left and right for fun.
What she did to Sara, that was because nobody left her some like she asked, however- it was only after she forced Stefan to flip his switch, that things got really bad… He forced her to drop all control: He kept messing with her head, over and over and over, until she really snapped: so it was his fault all those people died, because she didn’t kill anyone up until he made her crazy. Sara was always going to be saved, and Caroline knew that; and Sara never died due to Caroline. So Stefan is the one to blame for all the people she killed.
You know what I hated the fact that Caroline actually had everything under control she was drinking from blood bags working on her audition she was doing fine all she asked was to be left alone for a year and they couldn’t do that they just had to keep pushing her because they couldn’t accept the fact that Caroline had more control over herself than they ever did they should have just left her alone
Caroline was so sweet.....she was mean when she was a human but she became a sweetheart after becoming a vampire . I felt really bad for her when she turned off her humanity and then burnt her mother's letter....so sad .
1. It's not like Elena chose to turn off her humanity. 2. She's not trying to make the situation about her, she warns Caroline using her experience. She knows it's not a good solution and she tries to help her friend by doing that.
@@plutotrio9457 true, Caroline's reaction is normal considering the pain she was in, but people acts like Elena did something bad. And yes, Elena had flaws and could be a little narcissist sometimes but she was also quite selfless, even tho people won't admit it.
@@Apoorva1009 idk... If you "study" her character, she's clearly not a bad person. I think people blame her because she gets most of the attention and a lot of characters died for her, but they forget she's the main character and she never asked for any of this. She had flaws but she was actually quite selfless and really caring. I don't get the hate either. I think a part of the haters just jumped on the hate train without really thinking about it.
It's going to be hard, I used to watch it back in the days. It's a very articulated plot, I got lost around season 5, it was getting too crazy. You're better off trying to read wikipedia's summary of every season. Though you could still try to give it a go, I guess.
No matter how much it hurts, but because it hurts you know that it was all real. The ones we we lose do not deserve to be forgotton like this. And the end no matter how much it hurts, it gets better with time, the pain doesn't go away but you learn to embrace it and live with it. Saying this from personal experience.
My question is why the hell did they give her, her mothers letter when she didn’t have her humanity, they could have waited and she wouldn’t have burnt the only thing she had of her mother left. Also couldn’t those idiots had at least made a copy as a fail safe, I would have since she was trying to avoid emotion I would assume she would rip it.
She just wanted a year. She said that over and over she just wanted time. Like if they would have giving her that she would have been okay. She deserved so much more
Y'all hate Elena so much that u guys don't even see that Elena was actually being a good friend here she didn't want Caroline to go through what she went!
The hypocrisy & double standards that show up as a result of undoubtedly-inherently-misogynistic-and-sexist-driven blind hate for the stereotypically feminine female lead are absolutely disgusting and infuriating.
Caroline Miranda 👍 👍 you saw what happened to me that is my appointment Miranda 👍 you turn that off when your brother had died. You aren't thinking you're the only one make a big mistake that I made but you came out the other end worst pain is gone that's what I need I need that all to be gone that you raise all of your memories vampire 🦇🖤🖤🖤 that you turn that off words of pain is gone that is what I need that to be gone 👍👍 good. ❤❤💯 ❤❤❤
“I just need the pain to stop” realest line ever 😞
babe ur ok?
@@denyyyssssa trying to be ❤️
Started crying when I heard this line 😭
Nobody except Klaus and Stefan cared about Carolines pain until she shut it off and started dropping truth bombs everywhere.
Bonnie cared. Literally caro and bonnie deserve so much better
@@bgos4727 Half the time Bonnie was either dead, obsessing over her magic, or chasing a boy.
@@jen742 Finally... Someone who can see Bonnie is not perfect..🤝
@@missfuturecan.t.1720 She wasn't perfect but she deserved better
@@missfuturecan.t.1720 Honestly I never thought Bonnie was perfect, she was very annoying and judgy in the first couple seasons.
Honestly Caroline is one of the best characters ever. In the beginning she was deemed a shallow girl who was obsessed with boys but she went through a lot and her charter arc is the best of all. (Elena on the other hand……)
Well in the books Caroline’s character is basically Elena’s character in the books
Bruh Caroline was fine and just wanted to be left alone. She truly wasn’t doing anything bad when she turned it off but they kept trying to force her to and she retaliated. They should have left her alone and none of that stuff would have happened. She most likely would have had her letter.
They did the same to Elena made her turn it off then try to force her to turn it back on
Point blank Elena is a hypocrite.
@@AshleighBaby1990 nah cause Caroline done the same to Elena when her switch was off
@@wxndagranger9734 if I remember correctly it been a while didn’t elena bite the opposite member of the cheer team they were competing against and then their was that whole pretending to be Katherine thing also I almost forgot when she first turned it off she pulled a Damon and attack a couple in the car and another girl who she saw Jeremy make out with after that’s what she was mad at him and a lot of others while Caroline just went off to sing she didn’t start to get physical and eat people until they wouldn’t just leave her alone for a while
Edit: Also Elena killed Matt that made her turn her humanity on but everything was ok because that was the plan the entire time and they had him wear the ring
@@Lucky_72 Damon killed Matt, not Elena. And, she did feed on people, but the only person she killed, was the waitress; AFTER she told Stefan and Damon to leave her alone… And the reason she pretended to be Katherine, was to get information out of Elijah: (whom she didn’t know was EM, in Katherine’s phone) Had Damon not lied to her about why he wanted to take her to NYC, she never would’ve pretended to be “Kitty Kat”
Soo… If everyone would’ve left Elena alone like she asked, a lot of what happened wouldn’t have.
Damon stopped her from killing the Woman that tried to “help her” when she was laying in the road- it wasn’t a couple: And, she did feed on the cheerleader, because she wanted her blue ribbon.
Elena started to attack her own Friends: she tried to kill Caroline & Bonnie- She was mad Rebeka wasn’t prom Queen, and Bonnie was: and Caroline went after her, because Elena hurt her Mom, when she pushed her.
That’s why Damon & Stefan wanted her to flip her switch back to on: and if not for Katherine, she might’ve gotten worse. Katherine is the one that let her out of the cell- which led her to finding Matt, and feeding on him.
She tried calling Damon’s bluff when he said he’d kill Matt if she didn’t flip her switch; and he did: but everyone except Elena remembered he was wearing the ring.
Caroline was the only one who could make me cry in every scene that she cried🥹
“ The worst part of the pain was gone “ felt that
“I just need the pain to be gone” that hit me hard.
Caroline told Elena what I meant throughout the series.
yeah it’s not like Elena was sired to turn off her humanity
@@maggieshy8704 Thank you so many people seem to forget that little fact. Elena also said that maybe they should just leave Caroline to it as she seemed to be able to control herself still without her humanity. Stephan was the one that pushed Caroline over the edge when he tried to get her to switch it back on.
Elena was giving her an EXAMPLE. Why cant you all get that
@@yomnaislam948 we do get that, but i think the comment was saying when caroline turned off her humanity she called out elena a lot. eg :”i compelled liam to kill stefans niece and you find a way to make it about you? you trying have a gift elena.”
Other than she did not get to read her mother's letter, Caroline handled flipping her switch very well.
Stefan was very stupid to actually burn it…that idiot
And savage Caroline came into the picture the moment she snapped elena's neck
I hate it when ppl say Elena turned her humanity of when it was actually Damon who used the sire bond so Elena didn’t even get a choice, Caroline was literally there when it happened as well
exactly! elena has her faults but everyone wants to make her the villain
The sire bond between elena and damon isnt real!! Only hybrids can have a sire bond the witch lady said too.. Since elena had feelings for damon before she got turned they became stronger ever since she became a vamp
@@silllyygooose if it isn’t real then why couldn’t Elena make her own decision’s
@@mollane408 because her feelings are heightened to like 100 dumbass
@@silllyygooose your the fucking dumbass for not believing the sire bond is real it literally happened to Damon like a century before and Elena killed somebody because Damon told her to and she couldn’t drink blood until Damon said it was ok so the sire bond is very much real
Bro every time I watch this scene I am like she turned it off cause she was sired to Damon like she didn’t really have a choice
Same, Katherine also says something like this to Elena but in Katherine defense she didn't knew how it happened, unlike Caroline who was there
I remembered losing my dad a few years back and idk why but I always related to Caroline especially in this scene. Problem is there is no escaping the worst part of the pain. Just have to feel it until one day it doesn't hurt so bad.
I mean if we wanna get technical, Damon told Elena to turn off her humanity under the influence of the site bond
Its not a sire bond its just Elenas feelings for Damon are heightened because shes a vampire now do u not remember?? When a person gets turned all there emotions are heightened to like 100%
@@silllyygooose you need to watch vampire diaries again the sore bond is real
@@silllyygoooseshe was also sired by Damon because his blood turned her.
@@KeeYoung_ i know that but u have to have feelings first before u turn
@@silllyygooose she didn’t love Damon like she loved Stephen at that time. When she turned then she began to fall really hard for Damon.
Okayyy, to answer a lot of people's weird ideas that Elena was trying to make this about herself. She was just giving Caroline a real example. A smart person learns from other people's mistakes as well. In the end, Caroline regretted it.
not a smart person a logical one she was in too much pain too think straight
exactly Elena was Saying her own experiences Not talking or making it about herself but telling her what could happen if she turned her humanity off.
Thank you!
Also Elena was sired when she turned hers off Damon gave her no choice.
Exactly! Idk why everybody hates on Elena
This part gave me chills... Turning it of in real life is life.. Is choosing to go down the wrong road
Poor carolinne she deserved her happy ending so did stefan xx
Elena never turned hers off by choice!!!! This show somehow forgets this and it irritates me!
Omg you're right
And Caroline was standing there the whole time... How can she forget
Yeah they metion it like once or twice more in the show and it always bothers me.
Not to mention she's lost more than her brother at the time.
Ikr
Heyyyy how come none of y'all told me we were supposed to forget the fact that Elena didn't turn her humanity off by choice
Lol, u are right, she was sired
My thoughts exactly it was Damon's fault it was never her choice
Yeah but Elena had both Stefan and Damon to think about her, make choices for her but Caroline didn't have the support
@@sruthivs3967 honestly, I wish she hadn’t turned it off, she just dealt with it
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When Caroline shut her humanity off after her mum died was really heartbreaking for her,she really has been through alot if pain and she just wants to turn it off,so she doesn't have to feel anymore pain😫😫😭😭
this scene was literally so sad and i hate that netflix took it off
Poor Caroline....
Caroline Kinnie here
Funny how none of the Mickelson's turned off their humanity. NEVER .
Not when Celeste died (Elijah).
Not even when Hayley died. Not when Klaus couldn't be with Hope.
Not when Davina was killed. Neither Marcel nor Kol turned theirs off.
Why is so hard for everyone else to deal with pain😂
rose said that old vampires can’t really turn it off
@@iliks4905 exactly, and they went through much they had already felt it all
The switch wasn't real real, it just numbed stuff but it was all still there they still felt things- it didn't actually exist
hope turned it off
@@erenyeager9618 it’s about the original Mikaelson family. If we’re considering ALL of them, Hayley turned it of too (Don’t know if it was ever confirmed tho)
That we know of.
The Originals and TVD focused mostly on present day. Yes, there were flashbacks for every character and we never saw the Mikaelsons turn it off, but who’s to say they never did?
Also point to note Caroline was perfectly fine even with her humanity turned off. I feel like it would've been okay for her to have stayed like that was a little longer
personally im glad we can't flip a switch because most of us would do it without having a plan or being fully aware what that means. Caroline did. she derseved her year no pain and the others should've respected that decision and left her alone imo
It was not Elena's choice. Damon made her flip the switch because of the sire bond. And Caroline knew it.
Idk why people hate Elena so much she is an okay character she just never really got to make any of her own decisions and people get mad at her for crying all the time but basically all of her family is dead and the people she care about are always getting put in danger I would be crying too also people say she doesn't care about her friends but she has tired to sacrifice herself multiple times for them but never had the chance because No One lets her make any of her own decisions
I really liked her when I first watched, however on re watches she can get a bit much sometimes 🤷🏽♀️ totally agree tho!
@@alijade101 i'm not saying she is perfect but people just hate on her to hate she has done nothing wrong on purpose I mean I like Caroline and Bonnie but Caroline can be a little much sometimes and Bonnie can be annoying sometimes but that just means that there not perfect and that means the writers did a good job of not making them perfect because then people can relate to the character more I mean yeah Elena does have her flaws but so do every single other character but for some reason they decide not to look at there's and focus more on Elena's because she's the main character
@@alijade101 also people tend to forget that she was forced to turn off her humanity and that she didn't get a choice like always
Uhh they should've just left her alone (or call Klaus, that would be fun) literally everyone in the show turned their humanity off when they felt too much pain, Caroline lost both of her parents, she literally had no one left, and they couldn't just gave her some time and let her cope with her loss, she wasn't doing anything bad, she promised she won't hurt anyone, she just needed time, I think Caroline was the one who understand what turning feelings off really means, it mean you don't feel paint, not that you have to go and kill everything you see... And her so called "friends" obviously don't care about her at all (or they are just stupid.... maybe both) even though they understand how much pain she feels
I think no-humanity Caroline should've just run away with Klaus, that would be perfect..
Ovb there mistakes bc u feel it way worse when u get ur feelings back and then feel even worse bc u done things u regret should never turn it off ..
My lil brother watching this: Did what?😏
Anyone who’s ever lost someone has wanted to do this even for just one moment.
I’m so mad at Netflix for removing the show😒
It's on HBO max now
I’m in the UK. When Netflix told us they were removing we petitioned and got them to keep it on.
You can watch for free on myflixer
Before the Elena haters (and for some reason Damon lovers) start coming for my girl, just go back and watch EXACTLY how Elena turned off her humanity and before you come back and comment. Let’s go see the “choice” she made.
And yet caroline become a queen free vampire humanity🧛♀️👑
Truth be told she was the best one to turn off the switch.
Everyone keeps saying that Elena didn’t turn her humanity by choice. I get that, but y’all are forgetting that she literally asked Alaric to erase her memories of her relationship with Damon cuz she couldn’t handle the pain. 😑 hypocrites
That scene was heartbreaking but you are 100% right!
Yeah but that bit her in the ass hella hard so she literally watched two cautionary tails unfold. She’s even seen Stefan with his humanity off. Literally nothing good ever comes of it so why she would want to do it seems kind of dumb.
That's right.But that was probably the only time when Elena made that kind of HUGE mistake by herself.People always blame her for that,but they should understand her.Her boyfriend was dead, her friends were spilted, her best friend (Bonnie) was dead.And she was carrying so much pain so she decided to erase some.And she regreted for that very much.And now she is trying to help her friend who is in the same situation.
Sorry if they are grammatic mistakes, i'm not American
Can't stand Elena, always bout her, acts like hello wat bout me puh
Elena did not turn her Humanity off by her own byproduct or behalf but because of the sirebond that Damon used at the time to give her a boss around.
Technically Elena didn't have a choice in her switching it off because of the bond with Damon
Caroline has such a point but like why did Matt get to live everyone else died once but Matt nope let’s keep him alive
Matt died multiple times on the show once he got the Gilbert magic ring so I don't know what you're trying to say here. 😂
You know Caroline was one of the hardest vampire to turn there humanity back on bc she turned it off on her mothers funeral so there was no family to help her and her mother was the only person she could’ve counted on for anything and then she died so yh
Honestly Caroline understood what turning iff her wmitions meant. Age was actually kind of was responsible in a way. Unlike Elena, Stefan, and Damon who went on killing sprees. Did she kill? Yeah, but definitely not as much as she could’ve.
Elena did not choose to put her humanity off
She has a point if they can do it so can she maybe not right but we all need healing in any way possible sometimes and I understand I shut off all emotions before to and it did feel very freeing until I missed feeling anything then it all came back but it was a good lesson in my life to never shut it off ever again like that because life is pain and joy all at the same time that's just the way it's.
Finna watch this show again for the 3 time 😊
Catherine or Klaus would have been the two perfect people in this moment.
Catherine because she never turned off her humanity so she could walk Caroline through the grief and Klaus because he would have let her live with her humanity off and been there for her. She wouldn't have retaliated and would have been safe at the same time.
Caroline said the Elena turnd it of too only for her brother but she lost everything hole her family and Caroline only her parents and Stefan and Elena turnd it of bc of Damon and the bloodband she couldn’t do anything about it and everyone is angry at her about that
Thank you! Caroline is being extremely short-sighted & self-involved for someone who knows Elena lost 5 parental figures-FIVE-in 18 months and should have understood that losing Jeremy was more to Elena than just losing her brother, it was losing the last of her family & the only reason she even completed the transition to being a vampire in the first place.
Caroline never really looses her shallowness; she never really thinks through all the implications of something until it threatens to hurt her personally. As far as we know, Caroline still has her mother’s 2 sisters somewhere, she still has blood family left but Caroline just doesn’t care about them, doesn’t care that Elena understands not only the pain of orphan-hood but knows what it’s like to lose the last of your blood family & her warnings are far from vain, rather they’re entirely valid. Especially when you stood by as Elena what stripped of her humanity by force instead of by choice then when you couldn’t deal with the consequences of Humanity Free Elena you actively participated in the torture that was the restoration of her Humanity (the infliction of extra suffering) because you wanted her to be your sweet, fluffy plaything that never fights back instead of the complete person who dares to turn your own attitude back on you.
Caroline is absolutely being a rewriter of history so as to intentionally manipulate Elena.
Honestly, imo, early HF Caroline & ordinary vampire Caroline are so similar because Caroline seems to have barely any emotional intelligence to begin with never mind the capacity to sympathise and she doesn’t even seem to know the word empathy let alone understand the concept on even an intellectual level.
I guess it will be terrible if a person with depression or other mental illnesses becomes a vampire
Actually, it was damon that told elena to turn it off. Elena had no choice with the sirebond.
Caroline is and forever will be one of the beset characters that was brought to the screen.
The character development she had over all the seasons is to live for.
I just wished we got to see more of her and her daughter.
I remember when i first started watching this show I didn’t like Caroline and at the end she was my favorite. I even liked her more than Elena. After Katherine died Caroline was the protagonist to me❤
Caroline didn't understand that both Damon and Jermey came back
It's so cringe they act like it's just a switch they get to flip on and off.
Vampire the masquerade at least makes you deal with it every step along the way
Some things just hit you different after losing someone close to you. (Mom) This scene for instance, now hits me differently. I lost my mom back in June. I watch this series a lot. Watched it a lot even before my mom passed. Even though this show is about supernatural beings, I never really liked the whole, turning off of the humanity switch aspect. I guess it's because I didn't find it fair. Even being a supernatural type show, lol. But now watching this after losing my mom, I would give anything to have one of those humanity switches.
Bruh i’m still laughing at the fact Caroline didn’t change much it took no humanity stefan to actually make her bad
if they wouldve left her alone she wouldve been fine
They shouldve left her alone. She wasn't going to go Damon mode or full ripper. She was just mourning
Except Elena didn't turn it off. Damon forced it off! Also, how is reminding your friend how bad a person can get without humanity making it about yourself.
Stefan literally does this multiple times over in multiple different situations/contexts… but no one calls him self-centred/selfish/egotistical or accuse him of making it about himself; characters & viewers alike see it for what it is-someone who has experienced too much imparting the lessons learned from that first hand experience. In other words, when Stefan does it it’s accepted as a sincere attempt to help, but if Elena does it it’s somehow insincere & she’s a self-absorbed, cold-hearted, controlling narcissist. The hypocrisy & double standards is infuriating… especially when Elena wouldn’t have experienced a fraction of the pain causing her to learn those lessons in the first place if it weren’t for the rest of the Gang’s choices to treat her like a mindless plaything. Ugh!
@@jessicadangerfield1539 Yes! There are valid reasons to have issues with Elena but I feel like half of the fandom either makes things up, just hates teen girl and how they act, hates her more than other characters who did the same thing she did, or hates her more for letting a character get away with something than they do the character for doing the bad thing.
I hated this scene so much because Elena had NO CHOICE in turning off her humanity. She was sired to Damon when he told her to turn it off. He left her no choice in turning it off. Now she did choose to erase her memories and that is fair for Caroline to use against her but the humanity switch was not. I don’t think that they should have intervened if Caroline really needed it and let her have some time away from her grief. Part of Caroline’s issues was that they tried to get her to turn it back on so they gave her the only copy of her mom’s last words to her that no else even read first so she lost even more on the other side of her humanity switch.
After my moms death I would’ve given anything to turn off my humanity. I don’t blame Caroline for turning off her humanity and they should’ve just left her alone.
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Caroline suppose to be a werewolf o3o
I hate elma sm always end up bringing her name to EVERYTHING. Her mother just died yet she still had the audacity to say “you saw it when I did it” “biggest mistake IVE just made” I mean yes she CAN be a good friend but also can be selfish
Are you dumb she was warning Caroline about how she would regret turning her humanity off and how it wasn’t the easy way out. Y’all love hating on Elena for literally anything like how does saying “I” make her selfish
@@Ohhhthatsnot- no are you fucking dumb? U just a bias to Elena bruh and who tf make things about themself after their friend mom died like yes I know she trying to warn her but still made it most about her, she didn’t even say much about her mom but telling her how “bad” it was when SHE had her humanity off.
@@petersaystfu1 exactly so Caroline didn’t make the same fucking mistake what’s not clicking
@@Ohhhthatsnot- okay I know that lmao literally just said that but still always gotta put her name and what about her mom huh? I know you’ll be mad if your friend only cared about saying how bad it was for them but not asking about you.
@@Ohhhthatsnot- she could’ve at least try to comfort her but no
Episode and season please, because is where i left but the Netflix don't have anymore Vampire Diaries in my country
But Caroline have self calm even when she shut her humanity off
Not like Elena hurting her friends and loved ones 🥴
Which season this scence belongs
When did Elena become human again? In what season
Next thing caroline broke elena neck.. I loved that part cos I like caroline and bonni they are always saving live of Elena even though elena messed up all things.. Really I don't like elena in this show... If tvd part 2 will come just don't include elena..
I'm not going to be rude but when stefan died she should ended up with klaus yeah he had camille however when she became a vampire she was off ...and plus I think deep down she really liked klaus especially in legacies and the originals I wanted them to end up together 💓
who sings this song?
Hold on. Jeremy died??
Which season!!
Song?
The title is "so cold" but I don't remember the artist sorry
@@justinegislain1681 Ben Cocks
ep?
6x15
What episode
I think season 5 episode 16
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Nah but Elena fr made everything about herself. Caroline was trying to tell her and express the pain that she was feelings while Elena just standing rheir mentioning about her mistakes.
I cannot stand how selfish Elena was at points. And honestly, Care was the most sufficient no humanity vampire ever. If they would have just left her tf alone nobody would've died, AND Care could have read the letter she ended up burning.
I really hate Elena, I get it she’s the main character, it’s supposed to be about her but my god. So self cantered it’s hard to watch
Ok i love Caroline shes one of my 3 favourite but her eyes piss me off look how shes looking its so annoying and weirds me out
Uh she was crying? 😂
boi what
😂😂😂😂
Tf bro it’s the way the actress looks u r just bullying the actress tf is wrong with u lol
Elena became one of the most annoying characters
Yet in the end Caroline regretted it since she couldn't read her mother's letter. 💔
Yeah... That's the problem with turning humanity off
I didn't understand why the hell theyd give it to her without making a copy first!!
@@jesse5658 I guess they thought that would get her to turn it back on. They really should have made a copy tho 🤦🏼♀️
Nah she was right tho elena made the wrong choice and then declared caroline couldn’t make the same choice I know it’s cause she cares but if it was me and my mother just died all of it would just sound like condescending bs cause caroline is much more controlled then elena
See that's why I support Elena on this. When your friend is making the same mistake that you made (which caused you to lost something or someone) they'll stop you and Elena tried to do just that. But people just hate her without trying to see that she's not a horrible person
song?
So Cold by Ben Cocks
TBH tho they should have just left Caroline alone. She had the BEST control out of all of the vamps and wasn’t doing anything bad until they interfered. She literally told them she would behave and not hurt anyone if they just left her alone for a year and she was sticking to that promise right up until they didn’t hold up their end of the bargain. She’s the only one who ever turned off their humanity that didn’t just start killing or attacking people left and right for fun.
What she did to Sara, that was because nobody left her some like she asked, however- it was only after she forced Stefan to flip his switch, that things got really bad… He forced her to drop all control: He kept messing with her head, over and over and over, until she really snapped: so it was his fault all those people died, because she didn’t kill anyone up until he made her crazy. Sara was always going to be saved, and Caroline knew that; and Sara never died due to Caroline. So Stefan is the one to blame for all the people she killed.
Yes but they wouldn’t be able to shut it off if they were human that’s the whole
Point it’s a mistake every time
@Patsy Hay I mean, realistically people/ humans can yo an extent. It doesn't always mean you start killing people, but you can turn it off.
when caroline flipped the switched they should've called klaus. he would've fixed that for sure
True, the originals can compel other vampires, he compelled Stefan to turn it off before, I'm quite sure he can compel Caroline to turn it back on
She's smart, I'm sure as soon as she heard Klaus was back she'd have started drinking vervain
Yea that wasnt smart
This storyline of Stefan being the one to turn it back on, was the start to their love story.
No i think klaus would've hated the non humanity Caroline. He was in love with her innocence
You know what I hated the fact that Caroline actually had everything under control she was drinking from blood bags working on her audition she was doing fine all she asked was to be left alone for a year and they couldn’t do that they just had to keep pushing her because they couldn’t accept the fact that Caroline had more control over herself than they ever did they should have just left her alone
Caroline 10/10 was the best vampire
True
I feel Caroline so bad here 💯💯💯💯💯i
Caroline was so sweet.....she was mean when she was a human but she became a sweetheart after becoming a vampire . I felt really bad for her when she turned off her humanity and then burnt her mother's letter....so sad .
I loved her more as a vampire.
Do you ever wish that you had the ability to turn your humanity off?
Yeah
Yes, I am wishing it right now after my father died a month ago
1. It's not like Elena chose to turn off her humanity.
2. She's not trying to make the situation about her, she warns Caroline using her experience. She knows it's not a good solution and she tries to help her friend by doing that.
Someone finally said it!!
I don't know why they hate Elena so much...
I get it but we can't blame care either because her mom died and she was breaking apart. Elena is a great person but she can be a narcissist at times.
@@plutotrio9457 true, Caroline's reaction is normal considering the pain she was in, but people acts like Elena did something bad.
And yes, Elena had flaws and could be a little narcissist sometimes but she was also quite selfless, even tho people won't admit it.
@@Apoorva1009 idk... If you "study" her character, she's clearly not a bad person. I think people blame her because she gets most of the attention and a lot of characters died for her, but they forget she's the main character and she never asked for any of this. She had flaws but she was actually quite selfless and really caring. I don't get the hate either.
I think a part of the haters just jumped on the hate train without really thinking about it.
@@itsmahaut exactly
This show is so hard to understand when you only see clips from youtube. I see a lot of clips from this show but I still don’t get the plot 😂
It's going to be hard, I used to watch it back in the days. It's a very articulated plot, I got lost around season 5, it was getting too crazy. You're better off trying to read wikipedia's summary of every season. Though you could still try to give it a go, I guess.
No matter how much it hurts, but because it hurts you know that it was all real. The ones we we lose do not deserve to be forgotton like this. And the end no matter how much it hurts, it gets better with time, the pain doesn't go away but you learn to embrace it and live with it. Saying this from personal experience.
My question is why the hell did they give her, her mothers letter when she didn’t have her humanity, they could have waited and she wouldn’t have burnt the only thing she had of her mother left. Also couldn’t those idiots had at least made a copy as a fail safe, I would have since she was trying to avoid emotion I would assume she would rip it.
tbh, caroline handled it very well and if they gave her the time she asked. everything would've been so much better.
She just wanted a year. She said that over and over she just wanted time. Like if they would have giving her that she would have been okay. She deserved so much more
Caroline is soo underrated 💔
Maturity is when you realise Caroline was better than Elena.
Elena didn’t turn hers off by choice tho. Although I agree Caroline is a better character than Elena.
I cried so much when she didn't read the letter, I would've given anything to have a last letter from my mom before she passed
I’m not crying, you are.
Y'all hate Elena so much that u guys don't even see that Elena was actually being a good friend here she didn't want Caroline to go through what she went!
The hypocrisy & double standards that show up as a result of undoubtedly-inherently-misogynistic-and-sexist-driven blind hate for the stereotypically feminine female lead are absolutely disgusting and infuriating.
Caroline Miranda 👍 👍 you saw what happened to me that is my appointment Miranda 👍 you turn that off when your brother had died. You aren't thinking you're the only one make a big mistake that I made but you came out the other end worst pain is gone that's what I need I need that all to be gone that you raise all of your memories vampire 🦇🖤🖤🖤 that you turn that off words of pain is gone that is what I need that to be gone 👍👍 good. ❤❤💯 ❤❤❤