This is the proper way to ride a 125 he's not revving the absolute crap out of it he's actually carrying momentum and speed without about blowing it up
Sweet!!! Missed the 125's. That's amazing if they got 40 HP out of it. I can't imagine a 125 with that power. I know you would have a hard time going back to a 125. Back then most 125 riders were 150lb's.
+Jew in the oven 94 If you are slow, the AMA is trying to outlaw the use of 2 stroke bikes in pro races when 2 strokes have been around longer than the sport.
This is what I grew up racing on (2 Strokes), I wish the doors would open up again in AMA so they could return. 40hp from a 125, you can eat up 250 4 strokes with that, as long as you keep it on the pipe.
I'm sure the factory bikes are quite a bit quicker, but you look at a 42-43 hp Husky 125 2 stroke vs a 4 stroke yamaha yz 250 f that has 36 hp in stock form it should be no contest with the right rider. Plus the weight savings and they are so much cheaper to work on and do a quick top end rebuild. It does take longer to master the 2 strokes compared with the linear power band of a 4 stroke, but I love all bikes to be honest.
I agree with you man, but you gotta mention the torque of the 4 strokes too. I think that's where it really makes a difference. In the slow or technical parts of a track you can't just unleash all the power anyway ( unless your name is James Stewart ) ^^ And yeah personnaly, I love 2 strokes bikes, but I also like 4 strokes because of the linear and " fuller " powerband. They're way easier to ride
Mxrider92 it's all realitive you ride a 125 esp quite differently to a 4 stroke, it's why a factory works bike has an even harder hitting but shorter powerband, that's how pros ride 125s they don't back off, a top 125 rider will stay on the gas through corners carrying speed rather than couch sitting the inside using torque to pull them through, this talk of traction is again only advantage in certain conditions, the big thing again is how you ride and setup for those conditions that's been the bigger change. I have seen pro races here where in the mud a 4t should have won very moto yet the 2t rider won and he won the National title, not US, here they allow 2t to compete with four strokes it comes down to the riders choice, the thing is for many nowadays they have never experienced the 2t and I'm not talking about one ride, I see 4t riders ride 2t and you can tell right away they haven't spent time racing 2t theyre style position track use gives it away immediately, the thing is they're is now a generation they haven't experienced what real MX is about! MX / SX is the pinnacle and will to me always be 2t, regardless of what's propaganda we get feed today, even Pingree and others say it without saying it we are spoilt4t have made it easier and made us lazy you here it time and time again, that's not what MX was or should be about, it's about racing the best bike possible at the top of the sport! That will always be and clearly still is 2t the fact that very little development other than KTM in MX/SX bikes yet you have had over 10years of development with the EFi 4strokes and very little ahead, plus what it has done to the sport in MX esp at grass roots level! If you compare 2t /4t technology and performance in Enduro, both are good, arguably 2t have developed at a much higher rate than MX/SX variants and the power is very different to 10years ago on 2t Enduros, also even my Enduro bike has map switch technology on my bars with 2 switchable setting so for less tractable conditions on can switch it on the fly for better power delivery in this conditions, adjustable power valves! The rhetoric in these arguments is so much BS by many who have no clues it's so pointless and ignorant as usual with online media. But I enjoy both and I have ridden back to back 4t and 2t and not one area I'd choose a 4t over a 2t, this came home to me on one demo weekend where both days it rained and the 20km loop was muddy and quite challenging, easily the 2ts were less tiring easier to ride fast and safer did less damage to the terrain, ruts and big ruts were created by 4t riders albeit less experienced riders no doubt but it clearly indicated to me what was better a bike choice for me and It really surprised me as I went into that weekend with an open mind. In fact I'd only have a 4t as my second bike probably a 500exc for adventure riding! 2t Enduros are so easy to ride yet still have 2t fun and performance. So MX bikes could easily provide the characteristics that Enduro bikes do if development had continued at the "slow pace" and wake up it has been slow compared to the 2strokes era, just look at how long Suzuki has taken to update its 450, 4ts have no 2 ways about it, we would all be riding better 2ts than we have now by a long way. Kudos to KTM for improving the SX models Husky now with the TC and other Euro brands esp in Enduro that have kept developing 2strokes, which would be even far superior to the 4ts we have now, had rule changes not been enforced by governing bodies and certain Manafactuer agenda's, we would have lower costs, higher participation even lighter, higher performance bikes and better racing, longer careers at the top, ex the 450class is decimating rider longevity esp in the US. Again pros esp factory riders have always had engines tuned to provide power where they can ride it to the maximum that's why they are pros, they race to win not torque around a few corners!
Sick bike, love the works bike era, really miss that! You can actually buy the WP Traxx Shock and Cone fork for your KTM and Husky from them, no doubt it's not cheap! Not worth it for most of us gumbies, but I'd say to cost to produce an air from like WPs is cheaper to produce than the technology in the Cone forks, I prefer coil also but it's about the $$$ for performance and probably ease of setup for rider weight and style, lets face it many can't seem to wrap they're heads around a basic spring change for proper sag and setup to make anime work properly! I only have to look at my17fork and while they are ok, WP removed allot of adjustability tech in that XPlor to make is simpler and cheaper to produce! Re engine a 125 is a 125 it's meant to be ridden on the pipe it's the nature of its capacity and performance, that said the stock engine Husky claim it produces 40hp, add an FMF header silencer for different characteristics for track type, Boyesen RAD valve, Boyesen power wing, etc you can easily tune the characteristics to what you want, again it's still a 125.
Ping feel free to make a few of these vids a different tracks....please :)Same bike if you have it for a whileMake it like a study for Racerx what track suits this bike best ;) lol
Love you Ping,. You know I'm a fan of yours but you gotta pronounce the brand correctly...huskVARna. not hus.ka.var.na... 😌 Husqvarna isn't just the brand name, it was the city from which the Husky moto-legend Gunnar Lindstrom (GOONar LEANstrom) hailed. He was an engineer because in the day that's the only way you could get paid to race their bikes. He became an engineer because he wanted to race the brand like his heroes who prolly got no money just bikes and parts. I'm a moto historian and almost as old as dirt itself. ..lol. In truth, my vast knowledge came from being too poor to get a bike for a decade so I read a lot, magazines magazines magazines....which led me to write for them and get accolades from Pro racers like you because I write not as a Pro but an Amateur racer looking inside at what the Pros were all about. Steve Bruhn, aka The Factory Spectator nailed it, that's what I felt I was also
Begs for the bike. Gets the bike. Then complains about the power. Well we all know 125 2strokes dont make torque. Maybe he should of held on to it longer. rode it longer. then made a review after he got a solid groove on the bike. Idk. seems kinda odd that his tone was so mono for a factory bike. id be beyond stoked. thats just me. Lets someone esle ride it then. lol
Would have been nice to tie this into Steinke, "the only pro running a 125, lets get his thoughts on the differences" kind of thing...
This is the proper way to ride a 125 he's not revving the absolute crap out of it he's actually carrying momentum and speed without about blowing it up
Track was deep and rough? Lol. That track was a highway. Been too long since Ping has been on a properly prepped track.
Brownie is a 125 specialist.
Sweet!!! Missed the 125's. That's amazing if they got 40 HP out of it. I can't imagine a 125 with that power.
I know you would have a hard time going back to a 125. Back then most 125 riders were 150lb's.
"I kinda feel like a turd out there" -David Pingree
So who's arm do I need to bend for them to let me keep that thing for "a little while"?
I'll break that arm...
Why don't they lend this to steinke to finish the season out on?
They should,but the AMA bully's 2 strokes
+Frank Fields what? English please
+Frank Fields what rule?
+Jew in the oven 94 If you are slow, the AMA is trying to outlaw the use of 2 stroke bikes in pro races when 2 strokes have been around longer than the sport.
+Justin F If I'm not speaking English, you must not know speed talk.
This is what I grew up racing on (2 Strokes), I wish the doors would open up again in AMA so they could return. 40hp from a 125, you can eat up 250 4 strokes with that, as long as you keep it on the pipe.
yeah a stock 250 4 stroke idk about factory ones
I'm sure the factory bikes are quite a bit quicker, but you look at a 42-43 hp Husky 125 2 stroke vs a 4 stroke yamaha yz 250 f that has 36 hp in stock form it should be no contest with the right rider. Plus the weight savings and they are so much cheaper to work on and do a quick top end rebuild. It does take longer to master the 2 strokes compared with the linear power band of a 4 stroke, but I love all bikes to be honest.
I agree with you man, but you gotta mention the torque of the 4 strokes too. I think that's where it really makes a difference. In the slow or technical parts of a track you can't just unleash all the power anyway ( unless your name is James Stewart ) ^^
And yeah personnaly, I love 2 strokes bikes, but I also like 4 strokes because of the linear and " fuller " powerband. They're way easier to ride
Mxrider92i I agree with that, it makes them a bit easier to ride among are larger range of riders from novice to expert.
Mxrider92 it's all realitive you ride a 125 esp quite differently to a 4 stroke, it's why a factory works bike has an even harder hitting but shorter powerband, that's how pros ride 125s they don't back off, a top 125 rider will stay on the gas through corners carrying speed rather than couch sitting the inside using torque to pull them through, this talk of traction is again only advantage in certain conditions, the big thing again is how you ride and setup for those conditions that's been the bigger change.
I have seen pro races here where in the mud a 4t should have won very moto yet the 2t rider won and he won the National title, not US, here they allow 2t to compete with four strokes it comes down to the riders choice, the thing is for many nowadays they have never experienced the 2t and I'm not talking about one ride, I see 4t riders ride 2t and you can tell right away they haven't spent time racing 2t theyre style position track use gives it away immediately, the thing is they're is now a generation they haven't experienced what real MX is about!
MX / SX is the pinnacle and will to me always be 2t, regardless of what's propaganda we get feed today, even Pingree and others say it without saying it we are spoilt4t have made it easier and made us lazy you here it time and time again, that's not what MX was or should be about, it's about racing the best bike possible at the top of the sport! That will always be and clearly still is 2t the fact that very little development other than KTM in MX/SX bikes yet you have had over 10years of development with the EFi 4strokes and very little ahead, plus what it has done to the sport in MX esp at grass roots level!
If you compare 2t /4t technology and performance in Enduro, both are good, arguably 2t have developed at a much higher rate than MX/SX variants and the power is very different to 10years ago on 2t Enduros, also even my Enduro bike has map switch technology on my bars with 2 switchable setting so for less tractable conditions on can switch it on the fly for better power delivery in this conditions, adjustable power valves! The rhetoric in these arguments is so much BS by many who have no clues it's so pointless and ignorant as usual with online media.
But I enjoy both and I have ridden back to back 4t and 2t and not one area I'd choose a 4t over a 2t, this came home to me on one demo weekend where both days it rained and the 20km loop was muddy and quite challenging, easily the 2ts were less tiring easier to ride fast and safer did less damage to the terrain, ruts and big ruts were created by 4t riders albeit less experienced riders no doubt but it clearly indicated to me what was better a bike choice for me and It really surprised me as I went into that weekend with an open mind.
In fact I'd only have a 4t as my second bike probably a 500exc for adventure riding! 2t Enduros are so easy to ride yet still have 2t fun and performance.
So MX bikes could easily provide the characteristics that Enduro bikes do if development had continued at the "slow pace" and wake up it has been slow compared to the 2strokes era, just look at how long Suzuki has taken to update its 450, 4ts have no 2 ways about it, we would all be riding better 2ts than we have now by a long way. Kudos to KTM for improving the SX models Husky now with the TC and other Euro brands esp in Enduro that have kept developing 2strokes, which would be even far superior to the 4ts we have now, had rule changes not been enforced by governing bodies and certain Manafactuer agenda's, we would have lower costs, higher participation even lighter, higher performance bikes and better racing, longer careers at the top, ex the 450class is decimating rider longevity esp in the US.
Again pros esp factory riders have always had engines tuned to provide power where they can ride it to the maximum that's why they are pros, they race to win not torque around a few corners!
Sick bike, love the works bike era, really miss that!
You can actually buy the WP Traxx Shock and Cone fork for your KTM and Husky from them, no doubt it's not cheap!
Not worth it for most of us gumbies, but I'd say to cost to produce an air from like WPs is cheaper to produce than the technology in the Cone forks, I prefer coil also but it's about the $$$ for performance and probably ease of setup for rider weight and style, lets face it many can't seem to wrap they're heads around a basic spring change for proper sag and setup to make anime work properly!
I only have to look at my17fork and while they are ok, WP removed allot of adjustability tech in that XPlor to make is simpler and cheaper to produce!
Re engine a 125 is a 125 it's meant to be ridden on the pipe it's the nature of its capacity and performance, that said the stock engine Husky claim it produces 40hp, add an FMF header silencer for different characteristics for track type, Boyesen RAD valve, Boyesen power wing, etc you can easily tune the characteristics to what you want, again it's still a 125.
Ping feel free to make a few of these vids a different tracks....please :)Same bike if you have it for a whileMake it like a study for Racerx what track suits this bike best ;) lol
Husky needs to make a rockstar factory edition line of bikes
Should of took it to glen Hellen and let it rip up them hills! Cool video and nice bike looks fast
I want to see a Tc 85 review
I just sold one of my 125s I miss it already :-(, should I get a 250f or a 150sx next?
TylerBlocker 250f
What Ratio Should I run on my 2017 TC 125
Love you Ping,. You know I'm a fan of yours but you gotta pronounce the brand correctly...huskVARna.
not hus.ka.var.na... 😌
Husqvarna isn't just the brand name, it was the city from which the Husky moto-legend Gunnar Lindstrom (GOONar LEANstrom) hailed. He was an engineer because in the day that's the only way you could get paid to race their bikes.
He became an engineer because he wanted to race the brand like his heroes who prolly got no money just bikes and parts.
I'm a moto historian and almost as old as dirt itself. ..lol.
In truth, my vast knowledge came from being too poor to get a bike for a decade so I read a lot, magazines magazines magazines....which led me to write for them and get accolades from Pro racers like you because I write not as a Pro but an Amateur racer looking inside at what the Pros were all about.
Steve Bruhn, aka The Factory Spectator nailed it, that's what I felt I was also
Idc what they say... that's a nasty 125.. Mikey b on a big off camber southeastern outdoor track would show you what it would do..I promise
You should do a giveaway on it
What track is this?
pala
Get brown to do the review , at 40 whatever he is faster on that thing than God only knows how many people
Jesus Pingree, ya gotta shift a smoker! Keep the revs up and you won't feel like such a "turd".
Begs for the bike. Gets the bike. Then complains about the power. Well we all know 125 2strokes dont make torque. Maybe he should of held on to it longer. rode it longer. then made a review after he got a solid groove on the bike. Idk. seems kinda odd that his tone was so mono for a factory bike. id be beyond stoked. thats just me. Lets someone esle ride it then. lol
that's what I thought tooo
125 two stroke makes much more torque than a crf 150 which has a bigger engine lol.
foda
She runs like a scalded dog boy!