This is a really good example of pressing your advantages in lane to make sure the enemy laner is underleveled/lacking gold come 20 minutes into the game (team fight time). It's one thing to get first blood on your enemy, its another to ensure they never ever come back into the game.
I personally like that Nocturne bait towards the end, where Nocturne ulted him and he jumped the wall, let it land, and then jumped the wall again, leaving Nocturne outside, xD. Possibly the best ult dodge I've seen.
Faker's play in that last team fight to drag nocturne onto the other side of the wall away from his team was insane. Truly is the best in the world imo.
I don't really feel sorry for the Ahri. This Ahri is so bad. The reason why Faker snowballed this ridiculously hard wasn't because he got first blood. It's because this Ahri kept using charm in hopes to get a lucky hit. If you noticed, Faker goes in every single time and kills this Ahri whenever Ahri tries to land a random charm in lane. Faker would have still snowballed regardless of this, but he wouldn't have absolutely embarrassed this Ahri this much. Making a Diamond player look like he deserves to be in Bronze V...
Peekin Woof is one of the best Ahri players in NA. I think a plat/low diamond Ahri may have actually fared better, as Woof was probably supremely confident in his Ahri play and was trying to use his charm aggressively, thinking that he could turn the lane around if he could land a lucky charm and get back into tower range. You can also see the mentality of Diamond players: they play to win, not just to stall the game and slowly die. Did he throw out several bad charms? Yes, but had he not at least tried to make a play in his own lane, Faker would have just roamed all over the place starting at 8 mins. In this vid he really doesn't start roaming til 15-16 mins. largely because he kept getting kills in lane, which ran him oom and also chunked his HP. Woof could have obviously played this better, but his willingness to play aggressively, even in situations where it would cost him his life, is what makes him a Diamond player.
GyanRosling While 100% true, he still got stomped. My best friend plays LeBlanc almost religiously.. sorta like "Only Anylane LeBlanc". He plays her mid, top, and support. From playing so many games with him and LeBlanc the worst thing you can do is give her kills. That's how she makes gold. Her damage potential is so high that spending time to free-farm a wave instead of ganking is generally a bad idea. While you can admire Peekin for being aggressive, I would disagree with the argument being made that him being aggressive was his best option. You can never guarantee kills from ganks, especially on team has a map control advantage... What's the point of roaming when you don't need to leave your lane to pickup kills? The games where my friend completely roflstomps on LeBlanc mid tend to be games where his first few kills come from just killing overly-aggressive mid-laners. I don't know if the choice to be aggressive is an actual strategy determined by the opposing mid-laner or just a mental slip-up (being too confident about one's skill), but when those midlaners get too aggressive, I have seen so many LeBlancs stomp them time and time again. Being aggressive against LeBlanc should be determined by match-up, not individual skill. That's why I think Peekin got run through here..
Outworld I've been playing LeBlanc myself religiously in all solo lanes (and just recently as support with the onset of S4's stronger late-game scaling supports) and on Dominion for a few months now, I can verify everything you've said as absolutely the truth. LeBlanc punishes lanes that fail to avoid her damage properly, and playing "up/aggressively" against LeBlanc when you lack the survivability, mobility, and/or burst that she has at all stages of the laning phase is going to get you killed more often than not. The only way to outplay LeBlanc's burst is to avoid it, and then punish her when she fails to use it all correctly (like waiting for the Q mark to go away before going aggressive early). I can safely say as LeBlanc I'm not afraid of any matchup as I've played against practically every champion as her multiple times, and most of the matchups are actually quite winnable based on LeBlanc herself rather than just your skill with her. Ahri and Lissandra are two otherwise strong picks that I have never failed to "roflstomp" as you've put it, time and time again, and thus I feel they are only marginally better than Karthus in this matchup (which Faker proved against MVP Blue is why you don't send Karthus against LB, ever). In terms of the way Peekin played this lane, he's doomed to having to attempt to land charms before Faker silences him, and the only way to play around LeBlanc's damage as Ahri is to either successfully charm and all-in immediately with Ignite, or try to avoid part of her combo (W + E). Him using spells preemptively and aggressively against an opponent whose mechanics are exceptional just spells death, even if he was against someone like me who at my best stands at the Platinum level of consistency. Faker on the other hand has this champion, this lane, and one could argue, this game, mastered, at a level exceeding Challenger (at least in NA).
I love how you said the best way to deal with LeBlanc is to completely avoid her damage, which when I refer to my friend's LB playstyle, I can say with 100% confidence that my friend finds it harder to carry games when his mid opponent doesn't follow their own cookie-cutter build-paths (that everyone loves to do) and instead opts into buying and stacking MR items. LeBlanc is dominant if she gets rolling, but she's hit or miss otherwise. Other AP Mid's don't suffer as much from building utility or defensive items, so putting off that deathcap or DFG in favor for an early Athene's and negatron cloak really help to ease the pain of a LB combo as well as keep you from feeding her and allowing yourself to make it lategame and get your damage items later. LeBlanc is interesting because she reverses the role of the opponent's mid... Rather than being roamy assassins, LB forces you to stay in lane and passively farm because you can't let her get ahead in CS and you have to keep tabs on her ganks or be present for a counter-gank, or else she's going to get that lead she is looking for. I think that's why a lot of people stuggle with LB. They don't change the own playstyle... they just continue to rush a chalice "because thats all the MR I need" (WRONG) and a deathcap and then complain after going 0-2 in lane when the LB is now dropping bombs their team-mates.
I loved how he timed his snare tether to go off at the same time as Noc's fear in that early gank, and also how he calmly waits for the Nocturne ult in that last teamfight so he can dash over the wall to mess up Nk Inc's initiation and then just pops back to the other side leaving Nk way out of position.
How doe LB have that high ap? I can't figure it out with the items and runes and masteries it should be about 600-650 around the end but she has like 750 Can some one explain it to me?
faker carrying otherwise, i think this game also teaches us a good lesson to never get discouraged despite how bad you're losing. that ahri could've left the game, but stayed until late to help out the team. another thing, kda isn't everything, but it gives you the edge you need for the late game (unless you don't take advantage of your lead). these guys were all high skill players, so because they stayed together until the late game, they got strong enough to even win a few of the teamfights, even though their ranged carries were negative (doesn't mean they had no dmg). I know these are some obvious points, but it would definitely help the league community, esp lower ranked games. Btw, serious credit to Noc on the frontline with jax keeping purple team going. Great Game!
My question for this would be.. why did Ahri pick Ahri when Faker clearly picked Leblanc in the first pick? Wasn't this a ranked game? Kind of hard to understand..
how come when he uses his E it activates so quickly? dont you have to wait a period of time before it stuns em and THATS when it does damage? like at 29:39 how did his chain kill noc so fast?
His auto-attack is actually the killing blow, and if an e is active at a target which gets killed before the e is finished, the animation ends (so it looks like it actually does damage but it's just the ending animation).
For the proc, if u w to your enemy after q them, the damage is x2, so he maxed q first for the damage. U only max w when u need a better waves clear against a tanky champs like Cho..
after leona got that kill I was secretly watching the mini map to see if she would get a double hahaha sometimes as the support you gotta take matters into your own hands
from the initial stats looks like flat ap quint, scaling ap glyph, armor seal, magic pen marks. well he only has 5 active rune pages on this account it seems
Riot said they gave the pros Diamond 1 MMR accounts and they were allowed to play on it on NA. They played on these accounts, and the climb was so fast...
I actually feel really jealous of that Ahri. To have someone point out every little thing you do wrong in the best way possible (murdering you) just makes you a better player.
I think Ahri is massively scared of Faker in this situation, but I believe the reason she is charming so early is to avoid not being able to cast it while silenced, either way Faker is god.
@LilyOfLife that Ahri would've made no difference holding onto her charm. She did try, but a simple Q plus W will just stop Ahri to charm with minions in front of Leblanc. Btw Leblanc hard counters Ahri. Too much burst, and silence for any Mage is fatal.
I know what you mean. I played on both server as well. After I posted my comment, it a little sarcastic to NA people and I even feels bad about it LOL. But I'm on mobile. I can't edit or delete my comment and I tried to post another comment, an error occur. So now I'm on PC and what I'm trying to say is I dint mean to harsh NA :)
Nocturne players usually stand around there to gank with ult, and he was fed so he did expect lot of ganks from him. and as u could see noc waited for him to use his w so he just wanted to be safe. JUST SAYING could be wrong
this leblanc isn't anything special tbh
Salty streamer smh.
feel sooooooooooo bad for that ahri. damn man
@pekinwoof true he must be boosted too
leblanc has nothing on you dw
aren't you the ahri lol you are so bad (pay ur mods pls im starving)
-We´ve got an army
-We´ve got a Faker
This is a really good example of pressing your advantages in lane to make sure the enemy laner is underleveled/lacking gold come 20 minutes into the game (team fight time). It's one thing to get first blood on your enemy, its another to ensure they never ever come back into the game.
report ahri feeder *sees opponent* nevermind
It's scary, watching very good players still getting swatted aside like flies.
the mid level korean play against na.... what a big difference.
mid level?
***** he meant midlane lol
Yes, mid level is a code name for GOD
What NA midlane play?
more like world class mid laner vs random solo q guy
I personally like that Nocturne bait towards the end, where Nocturne ulted him and he jumped the wall, let it land, and then jumped the wall again, leaving Nocturne outside, xD. Possibly the best ult dodge I've seen.
Oh it's already 4 years :(
Faker's play in that last team fight to drag nocturne onto the other side of the wall away from his team was insane. Truly is the best in the world imo.
I don't really feel sorry for the Ahri. This Ahri is so bad. The reason why Faker snowballed this ridiculously hard wasn't because he got first blood. It's because this Ahri kept using charm in hopes to get a lucky hit. If you noticed, Faker goes in every single time and kills this Ahri whenever Ahri tries to land a random charm in lane. Faker would have still snowballed regardless of this, but he wouldn't have absolutely embarrassed this Ahri this much. Making a Diamond player look like he deserves to be in Bronze V...
Peekin Woof is one of the best Ahri players in NA. I think a plat/low diamond Ahri may have actually fared better, as Woof was probably supremely confident in his Ahri play and was trying to use his charm aggressively, thinking that he could turn the lane around if he could land a lucky charm and get back into tower range.
You can also see the mentality of Diamond players: they play to win, not just to stall the game and slowly die. Did he throw out several bad charms? Yes, but had he not at least tried to make a play in his own lane, Faker would have just roamed all over the place starting at 8 mins. In this vid he really doesn't start roaming til 15-16 mins. largely because he kept getting kills in lane, which ran him oom and also chunked his HP. Woof could have obviously played this better, but his willingness to play aggressively, even in situations where it would cost him his life, is what makes him a Diamond player.
GyanRosling While 100% true, he still got stomped. My best friend plays LeBlanc almost religiously.. sorta like "Only Anylane LeBlanc". He plays her mid, top, and support. From playing so many games with him and LeBlanc the worst thing you can do is give her kills. That's how she makes gold. Her damage potential is so high that spending time to free-farm a wave instead of ganking is generally a bad idea.
While you can admire Peekin for being aggressive, I would disagree with the argument being made that him being aggressive was his best option. You can never guarantee kills from ganks, especially on team has a map control advantage... What's the point of roaming when you don't need to leave your lane to pickup kills?
The games where my friend completely roflstomps on LeBlanc mid tend to be games where his first few kills come from just killing overly-aggressive mid-laners. I don't know if the choice to be aggressive is an actual strategy determined by the opposing mid-laner or just a mental slip-up (being too confident about one's skill), but when those midlaners get too aggressive, I have seen so many LeBlancs stomp them time and time again. Being aggressive against LeBlanc should be determined by match-up, not individual skill. That's why I think Peekin got run through here..
hey, u would do it worse, think about it.
Outworld I've been playing LeBlanc myself religiously in all solo lanes (and just recently as support with the onset of S4's stronger late-game scaling supports) and on Dominion for a few months now, I can verify everything you've said as absolutely the truth. LeBlanc punishes lanes that fail to avoid her damage properly, and playing "up/aggressively" against LeBlanc when you lack the survivability, mobility, and/or burst that she has at all stages of the laning phase is going to get you killed more often than not. The only way to outplay LeBlanc's burst is to avoid it, and then punish her when she fails to use it all correctly (like waiting for the Q mark to go away before going aggressive early). I can safely say as LeBlanc I'm not afraid of any matchup as I've played against practically every champion as her multiple times, and most of the matchups are actually quite winnable based on LeBlanc herself rather than just your skill with her.
Ahri and Lissandra are two otherwise strong picks that I have never failed to "roflstomp" as you've put it, time and time again, and thus I feel they are only marginally better than Karthus in this matchup (which Faker proved against MVP Blue is why you don't send Karthus against LB, ever). In terms of the way Peekin played this lane, he's doomed to having to attempt to land charms before Faker silences him, and the only way to play around LeBlanc's damage as Ahri is to either successfully charm and all-in immediately with Ignite, or try to avoid part of her combo (W + E). Him using spells preemptively and aggressively against an opponent whose mechanics are exceptional just spells death, even if he was against someone like me who at my best stands at the Platinum level of consistency. Faker on the other hand has this champion, this lane, and one could argue, this game, mastered, at a level exceeding Challenger (at least in NA).
I love how you said the best way to deal with LeBlanc is to completely avoid her damage, which when I refer to my friend's LB playstyle, I can say with 100% confidence that my friend finds it harder to carry games when his mid opponent doesn't follow their own cookie-cutter build-paths (that everyone loves to do) and instead opts into buying and stacking MR items. LeBlanc is dominant if she gets rolling, but she's hit or miss otherwise. Other AP Mid's don't suffer as much from building utility or defensive items, so putting off that deathcap or DFG in favor for an early Athene's and negatron cloak really help to ease the pain of a LB combo as well as keep you from feeding her and allowing yourself to make it lategame and get your damage items later.
LeBlanc is interesting because she reverses the role of the opponent's mid... Rather than being roamy assassins, LB forces you to stay in lane and passively farm because you can't let her get ahead in CS and you have to keep tabs on her ganks or be present for a counter-gank, or else she's going to get that lead she is looking for. I think that's why a lot of people stuggle with LB. They don't change the own playstyle... they just continue to rush a chalice "because thats all the MR I need" (WRONG) and a deathcap and then complain after going 0-2 in lane when the LB is now dropping bombs their team-mates.
6:15 epic music from canon minions !
when he said "yea" I was just fangirling haha
I loved how he timed his snare tether to go off at the same time as Noc's fear in that early gank, and also how he calmly waits for the Nocturne ult in that last teamfight so he can dash over the wall to mess up Nk Inc's initiation and then just pops back to the other side leaving Nk way out of position.
How doe LB have that high ap? I can't figure it out with the items and runes and masteries it should be about 600-650 around the end but she has like 750
Can some one explain it to me?
That game winning play by Faker at the end, dragging Noc into a 1v5...so good
faker carrying otherwise, i think this game also teaches us a good lesson to never get discouraged despite how bad you're losing. that ahri could've left the game, but stayed until late to help out the team. another thing, kda isn't everything, but it gives you the edge you need for the late game (unless you don't take advantage of your lead). these guys were all high skill players, so because they stayed together until the late game, they got strong enough to even win a few of the teamfights, even though their ranged carries were negative (doesn't mean they had no dmg). I know these are some obvious points, but it would definitely help the league community, esp lower ranked games. Btw, serious credit to Noc on the frontline with jax keeping purple team going. Great Game!
Man that disrespect at the beginning. Faker knew that he'll win against that Ahri.
Nk Inc actually did really well, I love seeing him grow as a player. GG.
This play was before or after the leblanc rework ?
that timed leblanc 'w' out of the base just as noct ults her. what a freakin' ride.
My question for this would be.. why did Ahri pick Ahri when Faker clearly picked Leblanc in the first pick? Wasn't this a ranked game? Kind of hard to understand..
how the heck do you do the double jump at 16:22?
Almost turned it off because of the spam laughing... but curiosity took over
Faker was cringing at how bad NA was I bet...
This was so impressive.
strong nerves ahri..
Did you try the brushy brushy?
How can you see chat in spectator mode?
i wish i could find more BarCodeKiller games with chat ON -_-
Whats Fakers Runes And Masteries
@Aarin henning
Legend says one you hit challenger NA you need to win 25 games in a row as challenger and you enter promos for Korean Bronze V
i just worked out why they call him barcode killer
how come when he uses his E it activates so quickly? dont you have to wait a period of time before it stuns em and THATS when it does damage? like at 29:39 how did his chain kill noc so fast?
He used Q then R and triggered the Q("ultimate") with chain :)
the chain didn't kill him faker poped another q
His auto-attack is actually the killing blow, and if an e is active at a target which gets killed before the e is finished, the animation ends (so it looks like it actually does damage but it's just the ending animation).
***** loooooooooooooool
applies damage twice.
where are runes and masteries?
what runes did he use
Does anyone know what elo this is?
Feel soooooo bad for that ahri. damn man
Dat distortion right before noc ults XD
Was this leblanc already reworked?
is he streaming sometimes=?
And I thought Leblanc was only effective after level 6 @_@
What rune hes using ?
Oh, I know that Ahri! Not personally, but I see him in games with Anklespankin :D
21:11
Corky: lol nice try noob
21:13
Corky: oh mama
28:18 that nocturne LOL
Never played league nor heard the characters, but that laugh in he begining scared me
I tried to skip to the part where their was action, jumped 5 minutes in already 3 kills and one assists!! What did i miss!
i miss the old leblanc so strong.
Does anyone knows why he was maxing his Q first?
For the proc, if u w to your enemy after q them, the damage is x2, so he maxed q first for the damage. U only max w when u need a better waves clear against a tanky champs like Cho..
+Tam Nguyen lmfao kk llooooool
the sound is so loud the minion wars sound like a beat, in the laning phase
after leona got that kill I was secretly watching the mini map to see if she would get a double hahaha sometimes as the support you gotta take matters into your own hands
does faker communicate with his teammates?
from the initial stats looks like flat ap quint, scaling ap glyph, armor seal, magic pen marks. well he only has 5 active rune pages on this account it seems
37:10 did you spot the minion in the top lane? :D He is like walking ward :D
how do you know he is faker? just a question
Of course i meant 13:17, my bad typo :
Other people farm minions, Faker farms minions, the enemy mid laner, and the jungler when he comes to gank.
Anybody notice how Faker just ignores J4's pings to help with blue
elo pls
omg that play where faker separated nocturne form the teamat the end was godlike.
Faker doesn't even give Ahri a chance to get into the lane
anyone else pay attention to the fact that this guy has the most farm in the game on lb..
Legends say he's still securing kills.
that troll fear at 4:02 was so bad, faker felt it necessary to give nocturne the kill anyways
6 deaths later and ahri still hasn't learnt her lesson, STOP THROWING WILD CHARMS AND SAVE IT!
Riot said they gave the pros Diamond 1 MMR accounts and they were allowed to play on it on NA. They played on these accounts, and the climb was so fast...
TBH you don't need to be called pro to win LB against AHRI
how do you know that he is the real Faker?
what this elo ?
holy crap. gets first blood and doesnt even lose any cs
Runes and Masteries?
13:38 "you will remember this as the day, you ...almost caught Captain Jack Faker"
I actually feel really jealous of that Ahri.
To have someone point out every little thing you do wrong in the best way possible (murdering you) just makes you a better player.
how can he flash multiple times?
Thats his W lol
Bronze comment of the year
I said something like "-.-", but then I quickly deleted it because the comment seemed troll.
just checked that ahri in lolking and he is now in challengers lol
Even challengers have games where they feed, and it's not something to blame on if you're laning against Faker.
I think Ahri is massively scared of Faker in this situation, but I believe the reason she is charming so early is to avoid not being able to cast it while silenced, either way Faker is god.
Holy it’s pekin
he used to stream at 'afreeca tv' before he became pro(when he used '고전파' as his nickname)
LeBlanc is the last champ I'd ever want to lane against as Ahri.
38:25 LOL THAT W I BET HE WAS LIKE NO ONE SAW THAT
at 9:55 you knew the ahri gave up xD
at gold/plat elo ppl would say "report ahri" feeding ! so true ;(
is that actually legal?
@LilyOfLife that Ahri would've made no difference holding onto her charm. She did try, but a simple Q plus W will just stop Ahri to charm with minions in front of Leblanc. Btw Leblanc hard counters Ahri. Too much burst, and silence for any Mage is fatal.
I know what you mean. I played on both server as well. After I posted my comment, it a little sarcastic to NA people and I even feels bad about it LOL. But I'm on mobile. I can't edit or delete my comment and I tried to post another comment, an error occur. So now I'm on PC and what I'm trying to say is I dint mean to harsh NA :)
just search the reddit thread titled '[Spoiler]Summoner names of world teams in NA'. its basically common knowledge in the community
Why isn't my LB like that? :((
38:05, Faker knew Nk inc was ulting him. Jumps wall and puts Noc over the wall, tele's back and comes back over the wall for a 3v1. Brilliant.
32:32 dat baron steal tho :O
wait, is this ranked? why didn't anyone build banshee's veil? o.O
Because buying a banshee's veil would be like bringing a single condom to a gang bang.
flamewizzy21
WOW.
flamewizzy21 this explanation gives the best visuals
flamewizzy21 thanks for making me laugh!
flamewizzy21 Mate you made my day.Thanks.
that Ahri is NA challenger, wait what?
Lol Faker: i dont always get feared but when i do i still run away from my attacker
So Thats why they removed the silence form
Leblancs q interesting
How do u know that is Faker ?
Cmon, this is not Faker, that death to Nocturne was just dumb
there is no video on this guy that it doesnt surprised me...! it just made me laught how he didn't let Ahri farm pacefully :')
lesson learned: when u are playing ahri, dont throw your charm willy nilly.
Why is he putting his wards near the minions? :O Enlighten me please. Anyone?
I wonder the same
he places deep wards on lane in order to predict whats the opponnent gonna do
I think you can't say it's deep because it is almost literally beside the creep wave.
Nocturne players usually stand around there to gank with ult, and he was fed so he did expect lot of ganks from him. and as u could see noc waited for him to use his w so he just wanted to be safe.
JUST SAYING could be wrong
I'm still stunned at that fb.....
I sometimes wonder why leblanc isn't so played very often