yea 15 years... Fake as jon jones himself. Suspendet several times for steroids. Suspendet for legal issues. Stayed inactive for many years for no reason.
@@PeterKlotz-x4fDon’t be such a casual with a 🤡 response AND in the English language suspended ends with a D. How is this even possible to misspell a word anymore with technology literally at our fingertips. Must be an English bot from Milwood…
These pundits kill me. Before the fight they always say “this will be the first time that Jon will be tested”. Jon demolishes the opponent. “They were not themselves tonight against Jon”. “They looked slow and old”. Stop. Jones makes people look bad in there.
@@WallStBully That's what happens when the UFC allows you to pick opponents that aren't the top contenders... I'm not saying anything bad about Jon I'm just saying it's expected when he chose who he did this weekend. That was never the general consensus apart from this weekend and the DC fight. So dunno why you're making up fake arguments for yourself to be angry about 😂✌️
@@jebronlames9000bro you have a point but he’s saying before the fights they are saying this is the best the fighter ever looked Jon is going to get tested then boom dude gets destroyed. After he beat somebody its always the next big thing 😂 I don’t understand how you don’t see the patterns
The casuals will sleep better at night thinking Jones is scared. 16 years in with Goat credentials in his late 30's. He doesn't need to fight Aspinal at his point for legacy, so if its not legacy its money. I think Jones should fight him, we'd all love to see it, but he's not as backed into a corner as some believe. He's already cemented...
Indeed, Jon would win but would suffer a lot of injuries due to the young buck probably being more active, he wants maximum profit at this point which he has earned, unlike Tyrone Woodley that wanted that after his first winning the belt and got hated for it
The casuals can’t comprehend the fact Jon’s legacy, as impressive as it is, was built on fighting blown up middleweights he had a significant physical advantage over. He’s moved up to HW to win a vacant belt from a cherry picked kick-boxer and then ‘defended’ it against a retired 42 year old Stipe, all whilst avoiding the idea of fighting the active, and defending, interim champ.
@@Monztxr -Yet here you are hyping a guy who fought literal bums in the weakest division in the UFC and already has submission losses on this record from guys who aren't in the same stratosphere as Jones ...
If you count the DQ loss as a win (because he clearly was winning), he'd be 29-0 like Khabib with a resume that is 100 times better than Khabibs. People have DC as a top 10 fighter all time and Jones beat him twice and just stopped Stipe who beat DC twice also. The only 2 guys to beat DC. I think Jon beats Tom and it does nothing for his legacy just like not fighting him would. In the short term it matters, but 10 years from now it won't matter either way. I honestly would rather see Jon fight Alex. Similar in size and age
Regardless of what he does, you guys will never give him credit. If I were Jon, I would fight who I want or retire. If they fight, mark my word. Jon is gonna put Aspinall down & out! Aspinall really doesn't know what he's asking for!
Agreed. What happens when Aspinall doesn't KO Jon in the first round? When has Jon ever been dropped or even stunned by a strike? What gonna happen in the 3,4,5th round when Aspinall no longer has his energy or speed. The people that think Tom will run though Jon are completely delusional
Absolutely, and Jon has been the GOAT for 6 years already at least. He can retire when he wants. He could have retired a long time ago. He's the GOAT by far, and what he's done may never be replicated. I hope as a fan he fights Tom. I think he takes Tom out pretty easily. His performance vs Stipe was insane. I agree with Brandon saying that Jon is so talented that we may never see this again. He's up there with Jordan, Lebron, and Gretzky, and that's not an exaggeration. He should just fight Tom and take his chances. What an ending that would be.
@SaluteTheVet based on what? I honestly don't get how it's so complicated...see his last 5 fights...he's slow compared to these guys...he's only beaten people who can't wrestle or are old...he barely won his last 2 fights at light heavy I honestly don't get why people think this....just cause ure the greatest of all time doesn't make u the greatest today ....also jon himself agrees with what I'm saying...Dana said he wud pay him more for fighting aspinall than Alex and he still won't take it.. absurd
Dude. Stipe looked slow and sluggish because his face got seriously smashed in, and Jones also brutally beat his stomach with kick after kick. Age....not as much the issue you're making it to be.
@@YourBestNeighbor7 So if you had your face smashed in, and if you had your stomach blasted over and over again, would you be just as quick and nimble as prior to the fight?
I didn’t know that Brendan Schwab was so clever. Out of all the people I’ve heard speak about Jon Jones being afrai 13:19 d of Tom. that is absolute nonsense. Jon Jones is not afraid of anybody and I and most people think he would beat Tom. Tom is not ready for John Jones yet even though it’s not the best version of John Jones. His IQ is much more higher than Tom Aspinall’s
Stipe ONLY said, "hes done, THANK GOD because he got smashed. He wanted this fight, he thought he was going to win and once he didn’t he created an excuse.
Facts, in all of the interview he was professing that he was going to be at Jon's @22. After Jon elbowed him a few times he was looking for a way out. Stipe fooled a lot of people.
@CGD-CourtinGentDaddy or it could be when he smashed EVERY ONE of the top fighters he has fought whilst keeping the least fight time in the ufc and he then has the interim and defended when that isn't even a thing he would have been just as big why u on Jon's balls so much you sad mofo get a life lad the ONLY differance would have been tom would have had the real belt which he should have anyway, who has jon beat at heavyweight other than both of the guys who lost to Francis (jon didn't want Francis) he then says he wants crazy money for tom which is the same thing he said about Francis oooooo and jon happened to come back when Francis left and he's now talking about leaving the devision because tom " doesn't deserve it " your blinded by his resume lad
Man, I wish you guys would stop trying to diminish what John Jones did to him. He looked old and slow because John made him look old and slow. It’s like you can’t rationalize in your mind. That’s how good John is. He was simply light years above him
agreed, yes with some age and outside of competition for a couple years can definitely give you ring rust but Stipe still starches 95% of the Heavyweight division at his age and it’s not like he lost a lifetime of training and somehow lost the ability to fight good, Jon is just that good. Jon also is getting older and had spent years multiple times outside the octagon but even with ring rust, he shows up, makes the fight competitive or rolls you over and emerges CHAMP, EVERYTIME !
Yeah its easy to discount the age when you're young. Im 34 and already having issues with joints and my back. I cant imagine competing at that level in 8 years from now with 4 years off. Thats insane.
@edmonddantes563 It's not an excuse he deserves what he's worth. Just like Francis did. He doesn't gain anything from fighting Tom. Besides money. People just want to see Jon lose. That's it.
Everyone acting like jons a pussy for saying he'll fight perreira instead of tom😂 have you seen alex perreira people?..... its clearly a smarter buisness move and probably an easier fight but come on man alex is no fucking joke. If jon runs through alex it wouldn't suprise me if he then feels ready for tom....gotta remember people as jon said himself toms younger and a lot bigger. Plus jons been inactive for years. IT MAKES SENSE what jones is doing its not his fault he got injured and they gave a fake belt to tom
It would be so stupid to have him fight pereira we know he’d just try to take him down immediately. The ufc needs to finally pay someone what the boxers get and it’s Jon jones to fight Tom .
The reason why MMA fighters get pimped is because how do they have such a great extraordinary athlete like Jon Jones and barely paying him. He should be making Forbes as an athlete. It's a damn shame. It also makes people not respect the athletes in the sport.
To be fair to John he is ducking Aspinall - but he doesn't need to fight Aspinall to prove his legacy. He should step aside and retire if he doesn't want the smoke.
He wasn't ducking Tom before since the fight never came to fruition because of his scheduled fight with Stipe, but now that he doesn't have a fight scheduled so ducking Aspinall is something that could happen. Ducking might not be the right word, but he could choose not to fight him Tom Brandon was saying. That narrative was garbage before he beat Stipe though, it made no sense on any level. Dana didn't even want the fight at that point, so it made no sense. This is all Jon has left though. As a fan, I hope he fights Tom. All real fight fans do.
Lol. Well his performance wasn't great was the issue. That said, half of that was because of Jons great performance and dominance in the first round. Stipes 3 years off was too much at 42 though. He was slower as well, so it was both Jon and the time off. Stipe still beats most heavyweights for sure. I think most people are missing that.
Five things can be true 1.) Jon doesn’t need Tom, he’s cemented and this fight doesn’t help his legacy, he walks away 28-0-1 it’s over with and he will be remembered fondly in due time, despite his outside the octagon issues. 2.) Tom is a bad match up and has all the elements to beat Jones and likely would. 3.) Jon is not afraid of Tom Aspinal, stop it yall 4.) UFC should pay Jon 20+ it’s the right thing to do, and with that and Aspinal likely winning, he would be passed the proverbial crown and beat the GOAT, great way for the promotion to now have the next big cash cow who beat Jones. 5.) Fans are lying, Alex Periera vs Jon is absolutely as big of a fight, and I’ll go out on a limb to say it’s NOT easier. Styles make fights, and that fight has a lot of implications. If Alex wins he’s the first three division champion and has an argument for the GOAT himself after wining kickboxing world titles and UFC world titles. Tom has a healthy level of respect for Alex for a reason, he puts people’s lights out, that fight is no way an easier fight for Jones.
Agreed, I honestly think it should be Alex vs Tom and the winner gets Jon but I know weight classes matter etc. UFC tournament of champions or something crazy like that.. lol
@ that was my exact sentiments, i think Tom vs Alex is the right to make and winner gets Jones then the fight is super massive but i get it, UFC doesn’t want to hurt one of their cash cows.
Honestly, I think Aspinall's pressure to attack isnt different than rampage, chael, machida.. He foud an answer for all of them, he'll find an answer for Tom.
It P's me off when these new up and comers want to take on one of the greats when they're at the end of their careers. What's the point, so you can say i beat Jon Jones but he was half the fighter he used to be. WOW. In his prime Jon smokes him.
@@mellifluousmike he wants the belt ffs are you okay your saying he's old and shii but he holds the belt what are you talking about tom wants to fight for the belt not to fight jon go and watch any of his interviews he doesn't care if its jon or not do some research before jumping on something you clearly don't have a clue about
What does the belt do for Tom, literally? I'm just curious as to the significance, if Jones chooses not to fight him and relinquishes it. Who's he going to defend it against? Unfortunately, the HW division is trash and nobody cares about Tom Aspinall.
@NeverInvite5.0 what's ur point tom doesn't care he wants the belt not to be a super star, again go and watch any interview your argument is coming from what you think is good for tom but unfortunately your opinion of what the devision is doesn't make a differance to anyone
@@Sportshorts-ufc I just asked a question and gave an opinion. You're just mad. 😫 I've watched plenty of videos, even one where he said he didn't care about being HW champion, just wanted to make as much money as he could, then do other stuff. So, now his stance has changed and you're his agent? I swear, you kids make me sick. Jon's correct...... Tom's fans are very annoying.
He said “I’m done, thank god” after he got beat the fuck up for 12-13 minutes. Zero unanswered questions? Dominated 2 of the best heavyweights in the world but no questions have been answered lol ooook
2 of the best heavyweights? Stipe yeah, Gane no chance in hell. Either Gane shit himself or it was a fized fight. Either way, Gane fight didnt prove anything. The Stipe we just saw, wasnt even 20% of the prime Stipe, he was way over the hill.
@ Gane is 100% one of the best heavyweights. He turned Francis into a wrestler and he’s beaten everyone else. Stipe looked “slow” because of Jon. Jon was breaking him down with strikes stipe doesn’t see from other heavyweights. It’s crazy that Jon goes and fights Gane (#1 contender at the time) then all the sudden he’s a bum. Then Jon goes and man handles the greatest heavyweight of all time which has never happened and now it’s just because stipe was old. Certain people will never get the credit they deserve. If he fights and beats aspinall it will be because he was young and has never been passed the 2nd round. Then they will find someone else who they think could beat him. It’s a never ending cycle
He knows Stipe pretty well. Who doesn't he fucking know?? Schlob talks absolute shit. "I dont think he (Stipe) really wanted to fight." WTF is this redact talking about. Anything he does say that makes any type of sense has been lifted virtually word for word from other pundits. Now I know the obvious question is why do I watch his bullshit if I can't stand him? Truthfully, I couldn't really say. Suppose its like watching a car crash from opposite carriageway. You know you should look away, but can't help but look🤷.
Yeah, people have been betting on Jon to lose since the beginning of his career, and it never turned out well for them. Jon is simply amazing, but he has tons of haters because of his behavior outside of the ring mostly. They won't ever be fair to Jon or look at him realistically.
WHat a dumb casual comment, Jon lost to Reyes, even he knew that along with the world, then he went into hiding , Jon doesn't comfortable good when he doesn't have all the advantages.
UFC did the same thing against Francis vs Jones. It could be a great fight , but they didn't care. The company will still survive. The question is , how bad uncle Dana really wants this vs Aspinall.
People forget one thing about Jones he holds back and fights to the level of his opponents sometimes. He can even put in less effort if his next opponent is watching. He did that against OSP when DC was watching. He fought a completely different way when eventually fought DC and finished him.
Over 3 minutes of holding down stipe (which “couldn’t be done) in RD 1 and beating him with elbows that would kill 97% of humans had nothing to do with it I’m sure. Nor the multiple body kicks. It’s just bc he got old. Nobody can ever give him credit. Same with the Gane fight, DC fight, rampage, TRT vitor…. When he drags aspinall into round 3 and beyond and drowns him it will be the same excuse
His greatness is unbelievable. Brandon put it accurately. What he's done won't replicated for a very very long time, maybe never. Beating 3 generations of fighters without losing a fight, where anything can happen is just scary talented and unreal. He has so many haters that are mad because of his behavior outside the ring though, and his failed drug tests, despite USADA giving Jon the benefit of the doubt for the failed ones. Those people just hate Jon and bash him regardless of what he does, they aren't realistic on any level about Jon.
It's 42 and the 4 years of no fight. Really nobody can go that long without a fight and land at 42 and expect to do anything to a guy that many say is the best to do it. When Jon got hurt and it was off for another year, i knew it went from a small chance to no chance. Francis was one of the few to be honest and say that is not the same Stipe i fought either time.
@@reggielidd9442 Stipe was out for 4 years. That's too long at 42. It's not the age really, but at 42 that's way too long to be inactive. To maintain yourself at the highest level of athletes at 42, you need to be training and keeping up with it all the time. It would take so much training for him to get back to what he was, and I doubt he could. He will always be worse because of all that time off, although he retired anyway.
This is probably the most accurate description of what’s going on. I’d agree with every point Brenden made. Let’s hope the ufc decides to pay for arguably the biggest ufc fight ever!
Best breakdown for this scenario. real fighters talk the truth and actually understand from experience how this game works. Bravo Brendan for being real
The talent of Jons competition is insane. People have been undefeated, but no one at the top in boxing has ever faced his kind of competition every fight for their whole careers. It's important to note how easily things can go wrong in an MMA fight. It's so much easier to lose in mma, it only takes one tiny mistake or one lucky shot. Not losing in MMA is just totally different than in boxing. You can see how a guy could go undefeated in boxing, but in mma it sounds almost impossible over enough fights vs tough competition. Jon does officially have one loss, that's true. Your point is true though. There are many boxers who have been undefeated, but no top mma fighters other than Jon have, if you don't count that loss I mean, then 0 have. That stat tells you something. It tells you how much easier it is to do in boxing compared to mma.
Jons feat is up there but its not greater than what lionel messi achieved in football. Also mayweather went 50/0, Phelps won so many golds at Olympics for 20 years these are all better than jones achievements imo.
“A lot of unanswered questions.” We know way more about Jon than we do about Tom. Tom grew up in a BJJ gym but was heel hooked at heavyweight lmfao… and he’s been hit and wobbled before KOing stiffs
I said something similar. Jon Jones is up there with Jordan and Gretzsky in terms of dominance and how good he is. What he's done when it comes to beating 3 generations of fighters without a loss other than maybe Reyes, and he didn't train for that and it was close enough for him to win anyway. It may never be done again in fighting ever.
I can't see Aspinal, vs Jones, vs Francis. Who knows which one fights who, likely Jon will be one of them, but i can't see someone not paying huge money to see any of these three fight each other. A year after the second Stipe fight for the trifecta with Francis would have been huge and no matter who won, it had all the possibility to be a great fight and a perfect way for Stipe to end. Francis really disappointed every fan by not taking that, or Jon Jones.
1:30 its not impressive AT ALL. Jon has abused peds his WHOLE career. Without peds jones loses more than he wins. Jon also got smoked by reyes 3-2 maybe even 4-1.
Dude, how many guys out there with many losses on their records that got popped for steroids? You can hate him and recognize that he has an impressive body of work
Brendan Schaub critiquing and ranking Jon Jones? That’s bold. It’s like me critiquing Picasso’s brushwork-sure, everyone’s entitled to an opinion, but at a certain point, the art speaks for itself. Jon Jones has the GOAT resume, and love him or hate him, his dominance is undeniable. Critiquing a career like that feels more like noise than substance.
Stipe is no longer the fighter he was eight years ago, which is understandable given his age. Coupled with Jon Jones' exceptional talent and skill, it ultimately led to Jones emerging as the winner.
Brendan Talks sense. I wished more people would understand Jon Jones isn't Ducking Tom. Brendan knows the fight game. Brendan is the only person that is spot on with his analysis.
I think it’s funny people make these excuses for Stipe about age yet there is a bigger gap in age between Jon and Tom. Also Tom should fight Cirly because Cirly was #2 when he fought Jon and Tom’s last fight was against a guy that was #5. I say those two should fight and then Jon fights winner. I do agree Jon’s far from afraid of Tom or his power because he will just do what he’s always done to guys they said would knock him out. He will just damage those legs and body.
Because Jon is currently the champ and instead of and fighting the interim champ he fought the #8 ranked who hasn’t fought in 4 years. Stipe looked slow because he’s over the hill and so is Jones.
Jones himself thinks he’s old and knows the younger Aspinal would destroy him. It’s why he wants opponents his age. It’s why he wants Alex who can’t grapple and is close to being over the hill too.
@@tekka7780 lol if you think Jon thinks Aspinal would destroy him you clearly know nothing about fighting lol. People been saying that bs a bunch of times and than Jon gets in there and just picks them apart. Jon fought Stipe because after he beat Cirly Jon called out Stipe and at that time Tom was on no ones top 5 because he just came off a loss and knee injury. Then Jon tore his pectoral but the fight was already made between Jon and Stipe but got push back because of Jons injury. Honestly Tom should have never got the interim champ belt because they knew Jon was coming back and Tom fought a #8, #5 and #4 ranked in the last 2 years he should have fought Cirly who was #2 and then that person should have fought the winner of Jon and Stipe. You act like Tom is this great well rounded fighter when hes not and here your making excuses for Stipe saying hes old yet there is a bigger gap between Jon and Tom. Your just mad because he made Stipe look bad and you were probably one of those people that was saying Cirly was going to destroy Jon back than as well and Jon made that look easy as well. Jon is far from scared of Tom and if you think that your lost and again don't know anything about fighting lol. You also act like Jon needs to fight Tom well he doesn't Tom has a fake belt everyone knows the interim championship is not a real belt if anything like many UFC fighters and older UFC fighters have said Jon is not scared, doesn't need to prove anything and if anything Tom needs this fight way more than Jon does because Tom does not have the real belt.
A couple of things: 1. Nobody is saying that Jon Jones is personally afraid of Tom Aspinall. They’re stating their displeasure of Jon turning down the defending interim champion to take on a bigger name with a gaping hole in his game that Jon can exploit without unifying the belt that Jon kicked down the door to get. (DC may not be undefeated, but he never turned down the tougher fight) 2. The Aspinall fight absolutely helps Jon’s legacy by if we wins, it paves the way for him to hold the consecutive title defense record in 2 divisions. (And unlike his 205 campaign, he could maybe say that his heavyweight run was drug free with a straight face) 3. This one might be a little petty, but using Michael Jordan as an example would not apply because MJ played on a team which would mean that there is no world where he would ever have a say about who they play. 4. Please stop saying that “we’re” crying about fighter pay. YOU’RE crying about fighter pay. We’re indifferent at best.
This is SPOT ON! But My question is, If they fight and Tom losses does that hurt his future more than a what if? I know he’s going to get paid well but if he losses and Jon retires isn’t that worse? Like even if Toms next fight after Jon is for the belt and he wins then starches everyone in the division , Won’t we all say he isn’t the real champ?
Jon hasn't lost in 15 years and people still discredit his resume
yea 15 years... Fake as jon jones himself. Suspendet several times for steroids. Suspendet for legal issues. Stayed inactive for many years for no reason.
@@PeterKlotz-x4fDon’t be such a casual with a 🤡 response AND in the English language suspended ends with a D. How is this even possible to misspell a word anymore with technology literally at our fingertips. Must be an English bot from Milwood…
How many of those years was Jon removed from the sport due to his selfish behavior?
Lost in a court of law for domestic violence thought, didn’t he ? 🤡
@@Bi0punX keep crying delusional fanboy
These pundits kill me. Before the fight they always say “this will be the first time that Jon will be tested”. Jon demolishes the opponent. “They were not themselves tonight against Jon”. “They looked slow and old”. Stop. Jones makes people look bad in there.
@@WallStBully That's what happens when the UFC allows you to pick opponents that aren't the top contenders... I'm not saying anything bad about Jon I'm just saying it's expected when he chose who he did this weekend. That was never the general consensus apart from this weekend and the DC fight. So dunno why you're making up fake arguments for yourself to be angry about 😂✌️
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂facts 😂😂
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@@jebronlames9000shut up dummy
@@jebronlames9000bro you have a point but he’s saying before the fights they are saying this is the best the fighter ever looked Jon is going to get tested then boom dude gets destroyed. After he beat somebody its always the next big thing 😂 I don’t understand how you don’t see the patterns
The casuals will sleep better at night thinking Jones is scared. 16 years in with Goat credentials in his late 30's. He doesn't need to fight Aspinal at his point for legacy, so if its not legacy its money. I think Jones should fight him, we'd all love to see it, but he's not as backed into a corner as some believe. He's already cemented...
Indeed, Jon would win but would suffer a lot of injuries due to the young buck probably being more active, he wants maximum profit at this point which he has earned, unlike Tyrone Woodley that wanted that after his first winning the belt and got hated for it
The casuals can’t comprehend the fact Jon’s legacy, as impressive as it is, was built on fighting blown up middleweights he had a significant physical advantage over. He’s moved up to HW to win a vacant belt from a cherry picked kick-boxer and then ‘defended’ it against a retired 42 year old Stipe, all whilst avoiding the idea of fighting the active, and defending, interim champ.
Lol I know right. He will make it soo easy with Aspinall yall gonna be in shock for like a a week
@@Monztxr -Yet here you are hyping a guy who fought literal bums in the weakest division in the UFC and already has submission losses on this record from guys who aren't in the same stratosphere as Jones ...
@@shawna7813 How many times Tom cheated?
If you count the DQ loss as a win (because he clearly was winning), he'd be 29-0 like Khabib with a resume that is 100 times better than Khabibs. People have DC as a top 10 fighter all time and Jones beat him twice and just stopped Stipe who beat DC twice also. The only 2 guys to beat DC. I think Jon beats Tom and it does nothing for his legacy just like not fighting him would. In the short term it matters, but 10 years from now it won't matter either way. I honestly would rather see Jon fight Alex. Similar in size and age
I dont disagree with you bruv.
It counts they finally overturned it recently
He lost to Reyes and blatantly so.
The second DC win is counted as no contest so he's actually 30-0
@@Boom229 no, they didn't.
Regardless of what he does, you guys will never give him credit. If I were Jon, I would fight who I want or retire. If they fight, mark my word. Jon is gonna put Aspinall down & out! Aspinall really doesn't know what he's asking for!
Agreed. What happens when Aspinall doesn't KO Jon in the first round? When has Jon ever been dropped or even stunned by a strike? What gonna happen in the 3,4,5th round when Aspinall no longer has his energy or speed. The people that think Tom will run though Jon are completely delusional
Absolutely, and Jon has been the GOAT for 6 years already at least. He can retire when he wants. He could have retired a long time ago. He's the GOAT by far, and what he's done may never be replicated. I hope as a fan he fights Tom. I think he takes Tom out pretty easily. His performance vs Stipe was insane. I agree with Brandon saying that Jon is so talented that we may never see this again. He's up there with Jordan, Lebron, and Gretzky, and that's not an exaggeration. He should just fight Tom and take his chances. What an ending that would be.
JON DESERVES 20+ MILLION!!
One time deal... UFC should be all in.
He wants 50 and Turk will pay it and it wil be held in Saudi!
Facts
I agree bro
I don’t even think Tom can beat Francis
Agreed
That's an irrelevant point both can beat jones
@ neither beating Jon.
@SaluteTheVet based on what? I honestly don't get how it's so complicated...see his last 5 fights...he's slow compared to these guys...he's only beaten people who can't wrestle or are old...he barely won his last 2 fights at light heavy I honestly don't get why people think this....just cause ure the greatest of all time doesn't make u the greatest today ....also jon himself agrees with what I'm saying...Dana said he wud pay him more for fighting aspinall than Alex and he still won't take it.. absurd
@SaluteTheVet maybe the only people still watching schaub are braindead ...it's my bad for even clicking on this video I'm off! Lesson learned
Dude. Stipe looked slow and sluggish because his face got seriously smashed in, and Jones also brutally beat his stomach with kick after kick. Age....not as much the issue you're making it to be.
Nah
@@YourBestNeighbor7 So if you had your face smashed in, and if you had your stomach blasted over and over again, would you be just as quick and nimble as prior to the fight?
I agree
Just like the second Francis fight. He entered round two completely concussed.
@@YawKhepra EXACTLY! No human can take such horrible punishment as be as nimble and quick as before the fight.
I didn’t know that Brendan Schwab was so clever. Out of all the people I’ve heard speak about Jon Jones being afrai 13:19 d of Tom. that is absolute nonsense. Jon Jones is not afraid of anybody and I and most people think he would beat Tom. Tom is not ready for John Jones yet even though it’s not the best version of John Jones. His IQ is much more higher than Tom Aspinall’s
Jon is afraid
Stipe ONLY said, "hes done, THANK GOD because he got smashed. He wanted this fight, he thought he was going to win and once he didn’t he created an excuse.
Stipe doesn’t make excuses. He just said thank god cause he has been thinking about retirement for years
STIPE still young but he hasn't fought n 4 years,
Facts, in all of the interview he was professing that he was going to be at Jon's @22. After Jon elbowed him a few times he was looking for a way out. Stipe fooled a lot of people.
Since when did Aspinall become this world smasher?
Wen jones got injured… if jones never got injured we would not be talking bout Tom
@CGD-CourtinGentDaddy or it could be when he smashed EVERY ONE of the top fighters he has fought whilst keeping the least fight time in the ufc and he then has the interim and defended when that isn't even a thing he would have been just as big why u on Jon's balls so much you sad mofo get a life lad the ONLY differance would have been tom would have had the real belt which he should have anyway, who has jon beat at heavyweight other than both of the guys who lost to Francis (jon didn't want Francis) he then says he wants crazy money for tom which is the same thing he said about Francis oooooo and jon happened to come back when Francis left and he's now talking about leaving the devision because tom " doesn't deserve it " your blinded by his resume lad
Since social media experts and coach warriors need a new hype train to be excited about
Great wyt hope. Always happens
Since the UK hasn't had anyone to get excited about since Bisping.
Write this down. If Jon Jones fights Tom he is going to 12 and 6 his career. And Tom will never be the same ever again
Yes you are correct
Jon 12-6's Tom's career? Hope so... have my doubts.
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No.
no that knee that tom has surgically operated just last year, that will be destroyed and hell lose half of his MMA career in recover.
It's called the art of martial arts , not who punches the hardest
Man, I wish you guys would stop trying to diminish what John Jones did to him. He looked old and slow because John made him look old and slow. It’s like you can’t rationalize in your mind. That’s how good John is. He was simply light years above him
Great point
agreed, yes with some age and outside of competition for a couple years can definitely give you ring rust but Stipe still starches 95% of the Heavyweight division at his age and it’s not like he lost a lifetime of training and somehow lost the ability to fight good, Jon is just that good. Jon also is getting older and had spent years multiple times outside the octagon but even with ring rust, he shows up, makes the fight competitive or rolls you over and emerges CHAMP, EVERYTIME !
Yeah its easy to discount the age when you're young. Im 34 and already having issues with joints and my back. I cant imagine competing at that level in 8 years from now with 4 years off. Thats insane.
Jon is 37 years old and coming off a pectoral tear. It was an even fight. Jon was just better.
@ absolutely and he’d only fought once in three years himself
I guarantee that Jon has a counter when he runs away waiting for them to chase him
This. Definitely see him ducking under and getting a takedown. Could also see him getting clipped by Aspinal if he half asses the run away.
Crazy how big brown is one of the few that understand Jons negotiations
It’s not negotiations he’s pricing himself out to build in an excuse, same thing he did with Francis
@edmonddantes563 It's not an excuse he deserves what he's worth. Just like Francis did. He doesn't gain anything from fighting Tom. Besides money. People just want to see Jon lose. That's it.
Meanwhile jons the one that resigned with the ufc and Francis left to fight DWCS level fighters in the Pfl….
Everyone acting like jons a pussy for saying he'll fight perreira instead of tom😂 have you seen alex perreira people?..... its clearly a smarter buisness move and probably an easier fight but come on man alex is no fucking joke. If jon runs through alex it wouldn't suprise me if he then feels ready for tom....gotta remember people as jon said himself toms younger and a lot bigger. Plus jons been inactive for years. IT MAKES SENSE what jones is doing its not his fault he got injured and they gave a fake belt to tom
Have Alex fight aspinall winner fights Jon😎
Because he clearly can't grapple with jones... not hard to figure
It would be so stupid to have him fight pereira we know he’d just try to take him down immediately. The ufc needs to finally pay someone what the boxers get and it’s Jon jones to fight Tom .
perfect take. Finally someone with some sense
Brendan said “that’ll sell 7 pay-per-views.”!!!!! 🤣
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@@bhatchett13Brendan would sell 1
The reason why MMA fighters get pimped is because how do they have such a great extraordinary athlete like Jon Jones and barely paying him. He should be making Forbes as an athlete. It's a damn shame. It also makes people not respect the athletes in the sport.
Stipe looks much older than 42. He aged like a banana.
UFC really screwed up letting Francis walk. There are MASSIVE fights to make with him in a division that has no fights to make without him.
It's disappointing. Even without Jon, Tom vs Francis is a massive fight for big fight fans. There was a lot they can do with him.
Thanks alot Schaub for clearing the air about jon & all the ducking stuffs... Thanks again
7:50 the foot surprised me and i jumped 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Even 58 yr old Tyson said IM NOT DONE. Thats how DOOOONE Stipe was after the Bones fight.
Cmon man 😂
To be fair to John he is ducking Aspinall - but he doesn't need to fight Aspinall to prove his legacy. He should step aside and retire if he doesn't want the smoke.
He wasn't ducking Tom before since the fight never came to fruition because of his scheduled fight with Stipe, but now that he doesn't have a fight scheduled so ducking Aspinall is something that could happen. Ducking might not be the right word, but he could choose not to fight him Tom Brandon was saying. That narrative was garbage before he beat Stipe though, it made no sense on any level. Dana didn't even want the fight at that point, so it made no sense. This is all Jon has left though. As a fan, I hope he fights Tom. All real fight fans do.
He wants money. It is that simple.
Before the fight it’s oh stipe is a tough fight after he’s old and some disabled senior citizen lol the disrespect to the guy is crazy
Lol. Well his performance wasn't great was the issue. That said, half of that was because of Jons great performance and dominance in the first round. Stipes 3 years off was too much at 42 though. He was slower as well, so it was both Jon and the time off. Stipe still beats most heavyweights for sure. I think most people are missing that.
When a 58 year old Tyson earns 20 million for a farce of a fight. What does Jon Jones deserve for a real fight ? 50 or more ?
Dana will never give him that, despite what people think he deserves. 20 would be surprising, but I could see it for fighting Tom.
He literally didn’t say thank god haha
I thought I was the only one that thought about the “thank god” part, he was READY TO LEAVE
This was the smartest bit I have seen anyone say. Cheers
Five things can be true
1.) Jon doesn’t need Tom, he’s cemented and this fight doesn’t help his legacy, he walks away 28-0-1 it’s over with and he will be remembered fondly in due time, despite his outside the octagon issues.
2.) Tom is a bad match up and has all the elements to beat Jones and likely would.
3.) Jon is not afraid of Tom Aspinal, stop it yall
4.) UFC should pay Jon 20+ it’s the right thing to do, and with that and Aspinal likely winning, he would be passed the proverbial crown and beat the GOAT, great way for the promotion to now have the next big cash cow who beat Jones.
5.) Fans are lying, Alex Periera vs Jon is absolutely as big of a fight, and I’ll go out on a limb to say it’s NOT easier. Styles make fights, and that fight has a lot of implications. If Alex wins he’s the first three division champion and has an argument for the GOAT himself after wining kickboxing world titles and UFC world titles. Tom has a healthy level of respect for Alex for a reason, he puts people’s lights out, that fight is no way an easier fight for Jones.
Agreed, I honestly think it should be Alex vs Tom and the winner gets Jon but I know weight classes matter etc. UFC tournament of champions or something crazy like that.. lol
@ that was my exact sentiments, i think Tom vs Alex is the right to make and winner gets Jones then the fight is super massive but i get it, UFC doesn’t want to hurt one of their cash cows.
Poaton has a huge fan base and after he sleeps Ankalaev we looking for that 3rd belt. Rather it be vs Jones or Aspinall. #chama
@@tsyqaib exactly
Bones is no fool. IF he decides to fight Aspinal, he will absolutely have a game plan for his blitzing style
Honestly, I think Aspinall's pressure to attack isnt different than rampage, chael, machida.. He foud an answer for all of them, he'll find an answer for Tom.
@@cmitche1100It is different, he is so much faster, and has a great 1-2.
Yeah, definitely powerful teep kicks and takedowns. Followed on by sub win or a huge amount of ground and pound. He cannot stand with him.
@@cheekboy7247 that's true as well, would be a great fight!
@@cmitche1100 you're clearly a dumb casual
It P's me off when these new up and comers want to take on one of the greats when they're at the end of their careers. What's the point, so you can say i beat Jon Jones but he was half the fighter he used to be. WOW. In his prime Jon smokes him.
@@mellifluousmike he wants the belt ffs are you okay your saying he's old and shii but he holds the belt what are you talking about tom wants to fight for the belt not to fight jon go and watch any of his interviews he doesn't care if its jon or not do some research before jumping on something you clearly don't have a clue about
Haha, that is exactly what Jon did to Stipe???? The belt is DISPUTED, Tom simple wants to unify them.
What does the belt do for Tom, literally? I'm just curious as to the significance, if Jones chooses not to fight him and relinquishes it. Who's he going to defend it against? Unfortunately, the HW division is trash and nobody cares about Tom Aspinall.
@NeverInvite5.0 what's ur point tom doesn't care he wants the belt not to be a super star, again go and watch any interview your argument is coming from what you think is good for tom but unfortunately your opinion of what the devision is doesn't make a differance to anyone
@@Sportshorts-ufc I just asked a question and gave an opinion. You're just mad. 😫 I've watched plenty of videos, even one where he said he didn't care about being HW champion, just wanted to make as much money as he could, then do other stuff. So, now his stance has changed and you're his agent? I swear, you kids make me sick. Jon's correct...... Tom's fans are very annoying.
Everybody got a plan until they get elbowed about 20 plus times in the 1st rd by Bones...😮
He said “I’m done, thank god” after he got beat the fuck up for 12-13 minutes. Zero unanswered questions? Dominated 2 of the best heavyweights in the world but no questions have been answered lol ooook
2 of the best heavyweights? Stipe yeah, Gane no chance in hell. Either Gane shit himself or it was a fized fight. Either way, Gane fight didnt prove anything. The Stipe we just saw, wasnt even 20% of the prime Stipe, he was way over the hill.
@ Gane is 100% one of the best heavyweights. He turned Francis into a wrestler and he’s beaten everyone else. Stipe looked “slow” because of Jon. Jon was breaking him down with strikes stipe doesn’t see from other heavyweights. It’s crazy that Jon goes and fights Gane (#1 contender at the time) then all the sudden he’s a bum. Then Jon goes and man handles the greatest heavyweight of all time which has never happened and now it’s just because stipe was old. Certain people will never get the credit they deserve. If he fights and beats aspinall it will be because he was young and has never been passed the 2nd round. Then they will find someone else who they think could beat him. It’s a never ending cycle
Im surprised this guy has the best take on the issue. CRAZY
He knows Stipe pretty well. Who doesn't he fucking know?? Schlob talks absolute shit. "I dont think he (Stipe) really wanted to fight." WTF is this redact talking about.
Anything he does say that makes any type of sense has been lifted virtually word for word from other pundits.
Now I know the obvious question is why do I watch his bullshit if I can't stand him?
Truthfully, I couldn't really say. Suppose its like watching a car crash from opposite carriageway. You know you should look away, but can't help but look🤷.
Jon will do to Tom or Alex the same thing he’s done to every single fighter he’s ever fought………we have absolutely no reason to assume anything else.
Yeah, people have been betting on Jon to lose since the beginning of his career, and it never turned out well for them. Jon is simply amazing, but he has tons of haters because of his behavior outside of the ring mostly. They won't ever be fair to Jon or look at him realistically.
WHat a dumb casual comment, Jon lost to Reyes, even he knew that along with the world, then he went into hiding , Jon doesn't comfortable good when he doesn't have all the advantages.
Why he acting like stipe is 10+ years older lmfao
UFC did the same thing against Francis vs Jones. It could be a great fight , but they didn't care. The company will still survive. The question is , how bad uncle Dana really wants this vs Aspinall.
He wants it pretty bad, but he won't let Jon get more money than he thinks he deserves. Dana is not type to get ripped off in business.
Jon lost twice
Once to MR REYES, 3-2,
People forget one thing about Jones he holds back and fights to the level of his opponents sometimes. He can even put in less effort if his next opponent is watching. He did that against OSP when DC was watching. He fought a completely different way when eventually fought DC and finished him.
Over 3 minutes of holding down stipe (which “couldn’t be done) in RD 1 and beating him with elbows that would kill 97% of humans had nothing to do with it I’m sure. Nor the multiple body kicks. It’s just bc he got old. Nobody can ever give him credit. Same with the Gane fight, DC fight, rampage, TRT vitor…. When he drags aspinall into round 3 and beyond and drowns him it will be the same excuse
Why didn’t Tom ever call out Francis I never remember hearing Tom hammering for a natural 270 Francis
That’s such an awful fight for Tom he’d get absolutely starched
He's not in the UFC.
Tom needs to call out Periera and starch him before Jon can fight him.. Checkmate! 😂😂💪🦆
This dude literary steaks everyone else’s takes on fights 😂😂😂 especially when he’s wrong
Jones vs Aspinall is never happening... get real cmon.
As much as I dislike Jones, you can’t deny his greatness. Wouldn’t surprise me at all if he beats Tom Aspinall if they do end up fighting.
His greatness is unbelievable. Brandon put it accurately. What he's done won't replicated for a very very long time, maybe never. Beating 3 generations of fighters without losing a fight, where anything can happen is just scary talented and unreal. He has so many haters that are mad because of his behavior outside the ring though, and his failed drug tests, despite USADA giving Jon the benefit of the doubt for the failed ones. Those people just hate Jon and bash him regardless of what he does, they aren't realistic on any level about Jon.
Good take. I will now subscribe 🙌🏾
It's 42 and the 4 years of no fight. Really nobody can go that long without a fight and land at 42 and expect to do anything to a guy that many say is the best to do it. When Jon got hurt and it was off for another year, i knew it went from a small chance to no chance. Francis was one of the few to be honest and say that is not the same Stipe i fought either time.
Stipe(42)-Jon(37)-Tom(30)
Why is everyone acting like Jon fought someone decades older? Jon is older than Tom than Stipe is older than Jon.
@@reggielidd9442 Stipe was out for 4 years. That's too long at 42. It's not the age really, but at 42 that's way too long to be inactive. To maintain yourself at the highest level of athletes at 42, you need to be training and keeping up with it all the time. It would take so much training for him to get back to what he was, and I doubt he could. He will always be worse because of all that time off, although he retired anyway.
i bet 100 on stipe for the upset. was blown away by jones performance. thought stylistically stipe would give him major prob
This is probably the most accurate description of what’s going on. I’d agree with every point Brenden made. Let’s hope the ufc decides to pay for arguably the biggest ufc fight ever!
Well done sir,brilliantly articulated 👍🏽
Listen to episode 386 of this dumbass show
Brendan is keeping it SUPER REAL, about the payout. Just give him the bag. Aspinall doesn’t do shyt for Jones resume. Hate to say it 🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️🤷🏽♂️
This is the best analysis on the topic. Period!
There is no way Stipe wanted to be or should have been in the octagon .
Why tom didn't fight Frances😊
Best breakdown for this scenario. real fighters talk the truth and actually understand from experience how this game works. Bravo Brendan for being real
Excellent plug in Brenda
Technically Jones isn't undefeated. A few boxers have genuine inbeaten careers.
The talent of Jons competition is insane. People have been undefeated, but no one at the top in boxing has ever faced his kind of competition every fight for their whole careers. It's important to note how easily things can go wrong in an MMA fight. It's so much easier to lose in mma, it only takes one tiny mistake or one lucky shot. Not losing in MMA is just totally different than in boxing. You can see how a guy could go undefeated in boxing, but in mma it sounds almost impossible over enough fights vs tough competition. Jon does officially have one loss, that's true. Your point is true though. There are many boxers who have been undefeated, but no top mma fighters other than Jon have, if you don't count that loss I mean, then 0 have. That stat tells you something. It tells you how much easier it is to do in boxing compared to mma.
Schaub layin down the facts! Couldn’t have said any of it better myself.
Jons feat is up there but its not greater than what lionel messi achieved in football. Also mayweather went 50/0, Phelps won so many golds at Olympics for 20 years these are all better than jones achievements imo.
Great take Schaub
Great perspective and honesty. Really enjoyed your thoughts Brendan
Brandon, great remarks and I agree with your assessments!
“A lot of unanswered questions.”
We know way more about Jon than we do about Tom. Tom grew up in a BJJ gym but was heel hooked at heavyweight lmfao… and he’s been hit and wobbled before KOing stiffs
22:50 dammit Brendan absolutely hilarious
Toss Tom and Alex a broken pool stick. Winner gets Bones.
Jon Jones is 6 years older than Tom haters
I said something similar. Jon Jones is up there with Jordan and Gretzsky in terms of dominance and how good he is. What he's done when it comes to beating 3 generations of fighters without a loss other than maybe Reyes, and he didn't train for that and it was close enough for him to win anyway. It may never be done again in fighting ever.
I can't see Aspinal, vs Jones, vs Francis. Who knows which one fights who, likely Jon will be one of them, but i can't see someone not paying huge money to see any of these three fight each other. A year after the second Stipe fight for the trifecta with Francis would have been huge and no matter who won, it had all the possibility to be a great fight and a perfect way for Stipe to end. Francis really disappointed every fan by not taking that, or Jon Jones.
The heavyweight division is always bad, there are only moments of 2/3 contenders never a full weight class of serious threats
I agree only the internet critics calling Jon Jones a duck when they stay ducked behind a phone screen....
“Maybe we do it on a fight night… in London” 😂😂😂
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Smh Brendan.....
Yoel romero was in his prime at 40 he's the best athlete we've ever seen in mma
This was the best take I’ve seen thus far
Jon lost about 3 times. What is he talking about.
To who? And keep ya feelings out of it! LEGIT WINS! Wat are the other 2 besides “Reyes” cuz I kno that’s one yall love to run with smh
Who else loves the new Schaub? The Schaub that said skrew it Iam gonna be myself
idk how ppl can hate/discredit 18 championship wins
Stipe is a world champion...you think he truly thought that he was going to lose?!!!??
The funniest thing for me, seeing the fighters Jon has fought is that he’s scared of aspinal 🤣
1:30 its not impressive AT ALL. Jon has abused peds his WHOLE career. Without peds jones loses more than he wins. Jon also got smoked by reyes 3-2 maybe even 4-1.
Dude, how many guys out there with many losses on their records that got popped for steroids? You can hate him and recognize that he has an impressive body of work
Dumb comment
Bro you couldn’t be more off base. Even without ped’s Jon still wins
I appreciated your input on facts well said,,
These are Brendan's best work. Love these rants! Keep it up man
I agree
Go listen to episode 386 quote all heavyweights are scared of Tom
Brendan Schaub critiquing and ranking Jon Jones? That’s bold. It’s like me critiquing Picasso’s brushwork-sure, everyone’s entitled to an opinion, but at a certain point, the art speaks for itself. Jon Jones has the GOAT resume, and love him or hate him, his dominance is undeniable. Critiquing a career like that feels more like noise than substance.
Stipe is no longer the fighter he was eight years ago, which is understandable given his age. Coupled with Jon Jones' exceptional talent and skill, it ultimately led to Jones emerging as the winner.
Shobb where do you get that sweater?
He's correct, to say fighters at this level are scared is kind of funny. But they are calculated. I.e. Mayweather, the fight game is unique.
Finally someone talking sense. I hope the fight will happen but certainly he’s not scared.
Brendan Talks sense. I wished more people would understand Jon Jones isn't Ducking Tom. Brendan knows the fight game. Brendan is the only person that is spot on with his analysis.
So glad u said this Brendan ppl just hate on Jon and are in touch with how it is how it works
I think it’s funny people make these excuses for Stipe about age yet there is a bigger gap in age between Jon and Tom. Also Tom should fight Cirly because Cirly was #2 when he fought Jon and Tom’s last fight was against a guy that was #5. I say those two should fight and then Jon fights winner. I do agree Jon’s far from afraid of Tom or his power because he will just do what he’s always done to guys they said would knock him out. He will just damage those legs and body.
Because Jon is currently the champ and instead of and fighting the interim champ he fought the #8 ranked who hasn’t fought in 4 years. Stipe looked slow because he’s over the hill and so is Jones.
Jones himself thinks he’s old and knows the younger Aspinal would destroy him. It’s why he wants opponents his age. It’s why he wants Alex who can’t grapple and is close to being over the hill too.
@@tekka7780 lol if you think Jon thinks Aspinal would destroy him you clearly know nothing about fighting lol. People been saying that bs a bunch of times and than Jon gets in there and just picks them apart. Jon fought Stipe because after he beat Cirly Jon called out Stipe and at that time Tom was on no ones top 5 because he just came off a loss and knee injury. Then Jon tore his pectoral but the fight was already made between Jon and Stipe but got push back because of Jons injury. Honestly Tom should have never got the interim champ belt because they knew Jon was coming back and Tom fought a #8, #5 and #4 ranked in the last 2 years he should have fought Cirly who was #2 and then that person should have fought the winner of Jon and Stipe. You act like Tom is this great well rounded fighter when hes not and here your making excuses for Stipe saying hes old yet there is a bigger gap between Jon and Tom. Your just mad because he made Stipe look bad and you were probably one of those people that was saying Cirly was going to destroy Jon back than as well and Jon made that look easy as well. Jon is far from scared of Tom and if you think that your lost and again don't know anything about fighting lol. You also act like Jon needs to fight Tom well he doesn't Tom has a fake belt everyone knows the interim championship is not a real belt if anything like many UFC fighters and older UFC fighters have said Jon is not scared, doesn't need to prove anything and if anything Tom needs this fight way more than Jon does because Tom does not have the real belt.
DC took his vision with all the eye pokes. He wasn't seeing anything.
A couple of things:
1. Nobody is saying that Jon Jones is personally afraid of Tom Aspinall. They’re stating their displeasure of Jon turning down the defending interim champion to take on a bigger name with a gaping hole in his game that Jon can exploit without unifying the belt that Jon kicked down the door to get. (DC may not be undefeated, but he never turned down the tougher fight)
2. The Aspinall fight absolutely helps Jon’s legacy by if we wins, it paves the way for him to hold the consecutive title defense record in 2 divisions. (And unlike his 205 campaign, he could maybe say that his heavyweight run was drug free with a straight face)
3. This one might be a little petty, but using Michael Jordan as an example would not apply because MJ played on a team which would mean that there is no world where he would ever have a say about who they play.
4. Please stop saying that “we’re” crying about fighter pay. YOU’RE crying about fighter pay. We’re indifferent at best.
2 doesn’t help Jon legacy at all sir
@ it depends on whether we count the ped violations like we do with Silva, Dillashaw etc.
People keep forgetting that Tom has a surgically repaired knee. Jones will eat that up.
This is SPOT ON!
But My question is, If they fight and Tom losses does that hurt his future more than a what if? I know he’s going to get paid well but if he losses and Jon retires isn’t that worse? Like even if Toms next fight after Jon is for the belt and he wins then starches everyone in the division , Won’t we all say he isn’t the real champ?
Brendan shcaub great episode!!!!!
I know unlikely but how insane inf Peirera was to beat Jones for 3rd title? Would be Jones Gane but by tko
Pretty sure none of us think Schaub knows anything about current UFC fights or fighters.