2018 Nissan LEAF EV FIRST DRIVE REVIEW (2 of 3)

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  • @Sneaker_Net
    @Sneaker_Net 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really enjoyable video, thank you. I am hoping to pickup a used leaf for my foray into the electric car world. These videos and ones like it are an immense help. Please keep doing what you're doing.

  • @wcarn
    @wcarn 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful review and good coverage of some of the technical aspects of the new Leaf. I drive a 2015 Leaf. I would say, even without the incentives, we would have an electric vehicle. Between gas savings (thousands) and lack of maintenance, an electric vehicle makes sense finally. Plus, it really is a fun and elegant way to get around. Even the Leaf feels like a much smoother, luxurious drive than the just a little hatchback.

  • @Marc_AD
    @Marc_AD 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent review in all the compartments

  • @MrBenHaynes
    @MrBenHaynes 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really enjoyed your review MotoMan, very informative.
    I have only two quibbles, one is that occasionally you speak a little too quick for this Aussie and the other is that a clearer explanation of what happens with regeneration (e-pedal) when the battery is full is required. (or at least one that makes sense to me)
    I will be following your other content on the strength of this review.
    Keep up the high standard!

    • @gp2003gt
      @gp2003gt 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      E-pedal is a combination of regeneration and brakes, if battery is full, only the brakes are used.

    • @MrBenHaynes
      @MrBenHaynes 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks gpgt

  • @voyagerman22
    @voyagerman22 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really liked your multipart reviews on 2018 Leaf. Are you planning to do a review on Chevy Bolt? I found your eons video on it’s release, but would really appreciate a more in depth review like the one you did on Leaf. Thanks and keep up the great work.

  • @rhmagalhaes
    @rhmagalhaes 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    TODAY, 12/16/17 I had a unpleasant experience with a Nissan Dealer. I tried to scheduled a Test drive on ANY Nissan Leaf and the biggest dealer in Miami had any available. I went there and ended up driving an Armada, just because. After it I asked the guy if they got any instructions about the Leaf and even if any sort of event was programmed. He gave me that laugh meaning, sorry dude, we just don't care. Then he told me that here is not its market, maybe in California, but as long as they don't give us a 200 miles car, people won't be interested. I counterpointed about the most common trip, Miami-Orlando, about 250 miles and how the old Leaf (100mi) would do and how the new one (150mi) would behave and got the same laugh. As long as you have to stop more than 1 time, is is out. Besides you need to worry about whether where your hotel has a charging port, and the parks, etc. Then I gave up and said yes, but within the city, 150mi is way more than you need in one day (I drive 80mi everyday). Than he agreed.
    In my humble opinion, right now, any EV under $35k will be a second car, people will always be afraid and want their ICE as a backup. IF the incentives go out, their second car will be an ICE, UNLESS, you make a video showing HOW MUCH it will cost the ICE vs the EV along the years. Thank you for your videos.

  • @clairebinder166
    @clairebinder166 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    From Switzerland ordered a leaf 2zero yesterday. With a 10km city commute it was an easy decision even without incentives. The "only incentive" is 3 years road tax waiver or about 400$ year in year 4 it goes to 50% discount

  • @DJAlexMIRADOUROPT
    @DJAlexMIRADOUROPT 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this videos , they are fantastic and very professional! The big problem of the EVs is that you want to buy , you pay money and then you have to wait more than 6 months to have the car in your hands.

  • @ronblack9092
    @ronblack9092 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Good question, Motoman! A question I have been asking myself. Do I jump in before I'm ready and buy or lease one of these before the incentive goes away? I live in Central Oregon. Lots of uninhabited space between major population centers. Currently I have a 13 Leaf that is our in town car. I would have to say that if the incentive is going away at this time and I wanted to take advantage of it I would buy ether a Volt or a Bolt. As much as I like the new Leaf, 150 miles doesn't cut it if I am going to replace my ICE car and go all electric.

  • @catchgrappler
    @catchgrappler 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I live in Ohio. I drive a used Ford Focus E.V. and my wife drives a leased i3. We would still do the E.V. but we would not have been able to afford the i3. Instead my wife would be driving another used E.V.

  • @andrewfernandes7383
    @andrewfernandes7383 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really excited for this vehicle. I really disliked the older styling. Love the new look. I personally am not sure if I would ever use the e-brake system. Currently north of the border and drive a Ford focus ev. Our prices and government incentives are much higher ($32 000 for vehicle, incentive was $14 000). Probably would be deterred from going electric if they did not exist.

  • @TheJanicetunes
    @TheJanicetunes 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Should I get the 2017 Chevy bolt or the 2018 nissan leaf? Which is a better car?

  • @dongidongi
    @dongidongi 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    In the United States of illinois here. Bought a Honda clarity plug-in for the 7500 tax rebate. If not for the rebate I would have waited for the all new Accord hybrid in 2018. Anyway the rebate is staying. While you were recording this on December 8, I was signing on the dotted line for the Honda.

    • @AM-zn9di
      @AM-zn9di 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I really hope their is a review soon of the honda Clarity PHEV, how do you like it? Can you highway drive it with mostly the EV engine running or does it always go gas after 60mph on a sustained highway trip

    • @dongidongi
      @dongidongi 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Andrew McMurtrie my wife uses it as a commuter car - it has a gas pedal detent - if you press hard enough the gas engine will come on. Otherwise it drives as an electric car - and a hybrid after charge is exhausted. I have seen 75+ on electric and Honda claims 100 mph max on electric. the engine is kinda puny - so much prefer driving electric.

    • @dongidongi
      @dongidongi 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/SVM90rtuLnI/w-d-xo.html

  • @brightbear7183
    @brightbear7183 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    How would brake lights work with one pedal?

    • @gp2003gt
      @gp2003gt 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes they do, and it does come to a full stop, great in stop and go driving.

  • @weleshboatian5159
    @weleshboatian5159 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    "Leaf-to-Home" Going to piloted in the UK. Earn up to £6,000 pa. by allowing energy supplier to take energy from your leaf at peak times, eg 18.30 UK time to use on the grid system. and recharging your Leaf at night when demand is low.
    This may be expanded to those home with a 'power-pack' on the side of their homes and have solar panels. Therefore reducing the need for more "powerstations" here in Great Britian.

  • @Antenox
    @Antenox 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:10 Hey, MotoMan, just so you know, "regenerative braking" always uses the electric motor to slow the car down, not the brakes. Every EV or hybrid from the first Prius all the way to the future Tesla Roadster uses the electric motor for regenerative braking, because an electric motor is exactly the same as an electric generator.
    Great review as always! I just thought I'd point that out because I've seen others make the mistake of thinking that the calipers have anything to do with regenerative braking.

  • @MikeStoddart
    @MikeStoddart 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We put a deposit down for a new Leaf in Canada. We wouldn’t buy one without the Ontario incentive because the value just isn’t there without it. An EV is perfect for our second car.

    • @markplain2555
      @markplain2555 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mike I have the older Leaf and I live in Ontario. As a full blown petrol head, I dipped my tow into the water by getting a second hand Leaf just to experiment what it feels like. I'm now a total convert and can't imagine going back (after hanging onto my gas-SUV for a further year I have recently let go of the SUV). Don't worry about our cold winter and don't worry about finding charge stations. I pay $28.50 per month on charging my car (I drive 22kms one way to work) where I used to pay $150 per month at $1/litre gas prices. Almost everyday I realise something new and amazing about electric cars eg: I was once stuck on the 401 with my ICE and low on gas... very low on gas and man did I have range anxiety. I was recently stuck on the 401 in my EV and I realised, "wait a minute this thing uses little to no energy in stop go traffic". Everytime I pass a gas station, I think to myself, "how much time of my life did I waste driving out to a gas station, lining up and filling my car". I can go on and on about an EV. Once you get an EV, you will "get it". In the mean time download the app "plugshare" and you will begin to understand this brave new world.

    • @MrBenHaynes
      @MrBenHaynes 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for the info Mark. I am also a car enthusiast, and look forward to the day that I can replace the family CX-5 diesel with an electric car (I particularly like the effortless low rev torque). Having said that, I will hang on to my ND MX-5 "Miata" and enjoy two very different forms of motoring! Horses for courses as they say.

  • @EARLandPEARL-c3i
    @EARLandPEARL-c3i 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    wait for a used one if you really want one

  • @pioneer7777777
    @pioneer7777777 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Well, now that the tax bill has been passed, we know that the incentives will stay in place! I think it would make a big difference

  • @Cchichester
    @Cchichester 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Used market in 4-5 years is a great value

  • @benedikt5974
    @benedikt5974 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oooops! "Bis später"? Your German seems to be good.
    Greeting from Germany where there is a 4k€ rebate on EVs (2k from a state fund and 2k price off the list price by the dealer). This very low rebate does not be a lot in decision making. So yes, canceling this would not make any effect on my decision making.
    In my eyes the new Leaf could be one of the first generation of EVs that really do not need a rebate any more. For many use cases they are just the better car. And if you factor in total cost of ownership, they are often the cheaper ones as well.

  • @bellshooter
    @bellshooter 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Greetings from UK, we have a £4500 rebate off the price at dealerships, without that I would have likely not bought one until the value proposition was improved. It should be possible to manufacture an EV for less than a fossil car due to the simplified drive train. This will come with reducing battery costs and volume production, I guess 5-7 years from now. But with the upcoming multiple manufacturers competing heavily, and energy prices falling from green production, this will happen.

  • @casperdeboer12
    @casperdeboer12 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just bought ons in theater Netherlands.

  • @aurorajones8481
    @aurorajones8481 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    SW USA previous owner of a Focus EV and loved it. Love EV but love ICE as well. Im not a hippy but believe you should take care of your space. That said the EV credits were meant to spur the growth of the segment. And while owning less than 1% of the market is not "there" they are great cars now no doubt and I dont think we need the credits. We dont need tax cuts for the rich but hey whats a couple thousand dollars to a few billion right?

  • @evingmadeez5008
    @evingmadeez5008 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is 2 of 3...??? Why??..whats going to be in the 3rd one??

    • @MotoManTV
      @MotoManTV  7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Pro Pilot Assist

    • @evingmadeez5008
      @evingmadeez5008 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      MotoManTV ooooohhhhh....nice

  • @jameswilkins8530
    @jameswilkins8530 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    We are a one car and about four bicycle family and you bet your ass, the absence of a tax credit will not keep us from going electric for the next one. Thing is, I don't think there has been a level playing field concerning ICE vs electric here for a very long time. I hope the tax credits do survive in some form. Not opposed to reasonable state road maintenance fees levied to electric vehicle owners either.

  • @MiniEggs1999
    @MiniEggs1999 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Four or so years after plus size phones have been released why do so few manufacturers have a place to put and charge them without it looking/being awkward/a mess

  • @feliomar
    @feliomar 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Used Bmw i3 certified 19k miles 16k

  • @uncutfishing
    @uncutfishing 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm not American, but it depends on how much you drive, imho (unless you have a lot of money and can buy whatever you want - then EV is a nobrainer, imho). If I drove, say, 50 000 km per year in a car like, say, Impreza, that costs, say, 20 000 Eur, in two years my car+petrol expenses would reach something like 31 000. In 6, considering petrol price rise, they'd be at something like 55 000. And the car would be half-dead to boot. New EV would cost, say, 30 000. In six years I'd spend, correct me if I'm wrong, no more than 2000 Euros on electricity, so total cost would be 32 000, and the car, if we are to trust experts, would be doing quite allright, making it a *much cheaper option than an Impreza*. Difference decreases, however, if one drives little.
    Electric cars make sense, but innitial investment scares people (like myself) off. Not to mention, the lobby against them is still extremely strong and majority of people strongly believe they're complete crap that will run out of power, even if every power outlet in the world is a bloody filling station :(

  • @jwu5192
    @jwu5192 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    thankfully it's still here, the tax credit, but without it, probably not. I would just go with a regular hatch. we currently have a fiat 500e, but on that crazy good lease deal - which wouldn't have been avail if there wasn't that tax credit so...

  • @MrStingraybernard
    @MrStingraybernard 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    not bad looking either

  • @BokiXI
    @BokiXI 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The car is good, only 20kwh missing.

  • @garythomas8664
    @garythomas8664 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    No vehicle is worth more than $30,000. Unless it is a collectable.

  • @SkywalkerPaul
    @SkywalkerPaul 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sind sie ein deutscher?

    • @MotoManTV
      @MotoManTV  7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ich komme aus New York, habe aber in Deutschland gearbeitet

    • @SkywalkerPaul
      @SkywalkerPaul 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ich schaue seit paar Monaten ihre Videos. Sehr gut gemacht. Weiter so ! :)

  • @gotj
    @gotj 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    From Spain: you should pay your car in full not expect others to pay part of it. Just saying. I have a twizy.

  • @TheCruiseDog
    @TheCruiseDog 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    The U.S. government had a 2017 budget for energy of over 32 Billion dollars. A portion of this was in the R&D department. Rather than investing in more R&D, the government could offer rebates to EV owners creating an real incentive to buy. This also rewards the manufacturers of innovative technology more sales and profits while significantly reducing pollutants to the environment.
    Let's face it. Private enterprise is much, much better at R&D than the government. Space X is just one example. The government should get out of the business of R&D and reward those with proven results.
    I would buy an EV car if there was a government rebate (not a tax credit). I think a lot of people would, too. If such were the case, there would be a massive reduction in pollution in very short order. Better to harvest the technology of what we have and reap the current benefits than to ignore them and chase more fruitless government R&D.

  • @tonys9413
    @tonys9413 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    If tax incentives are gone it will push me towards the Golf GTI OR Mazda CX-5. However, because of the lack of active battery management system, I would lease the Nissan; I would buy the other two (when I turn-in the Golf TDI in 2018). P.S. For now, it looks like the tax incentives survived the anti-electric drive in Congress.

    • @MrBenHaynes
      @MrBenHaynes 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I drive a diesel Mazda CX-5 in Australia because there are absolutely zero incentives for an EV vehicle here.
      My replacement will be a Nissan Leaf or perhaps an plug-in electric vehicle with a small range extender as I live in a rural area. Can't wait!

    • @john9972
      @john9972 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ben Haynes we live on the west coast of Canada in British Columbia and we drive a first generation leaf and a BMW i3. Our provincial government has been very good at promoting Ev's and sponsoring a province wide rapid charging network. Like Norway our power is almost 100% hydro electric so we are very fortunate. It makes a big difference when government is onside and not influenced by fossil fuel lobbyists. Hopefully Tesla example of using renewable energy in South Australia will help influence public opinion and help promote the use of Ev's and a public charging network where you are. There is no downside to electric vehicle use except to those who profit from maintaining the status quo.

    • @MrBenHaynes
      @MrBenHaynes 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks John Livesey. I read "Green Car Reports" and am envious of progressive states like California. Perhaps I should relocate to South Australia! I am a patient man.

  • @CMCNestT
    @CMCNestT 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    From CA. Without incentives the only plug-in vehicle worth the full asking price is a Tesla. If I couldn't afford a base Model 3 because there was no longer a $7.5k Federal Credit plus $2.5k CA Rebate I would get a CPO 2017 Mazda 6 GT for ~$25k.

  • @soliton4
    @soliton4 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i live in amsterdam and i drive an electric .... bike

  • @bluepil123
    @bluepil123 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Government should not subsidize electric cars. This is picking winners and losers. Wasting money is ok if it is yours, but government money is the tax payers money.

  • @artureff3046
    @artureff3046 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    never a tram

  • @TheGammelfjols
    @TheGammelfjols 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    in denmark we have a low tax on ev´s. and that make the leaf real cheap.
    the economy is the big. issue. but positively. take a comperbel gasoline car or hybrid. its cost almoste the same, in denmark. but the maintenance cost is way higher. and the cost for gasoline is there and whih a ev its not. we have a drive for free flat. prize system. from more than one, provider of charting and its for charing home and away flat rate prize.
    For only. 75$ a month you have free electrons, for the ev. ( here the lot of danish windmills. come in that's why they can do it. the back to grid, will be standard. on the home. chager and there the company can make a big profit. bying power at night and selling power at the day time. and only taking a few percent from the batteries) denmark is now app 60% wind power for the, total commission, and we need more evs on the road.
    the nissan leaf is cheaper to drive than a standard, comperbel other car.

  • @Chris-vv8ur
    @Chris-vv8ur 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    How much did you get paid to not mention Tesla? Or is it because Tesla won't invite you to fancy paid test drives? Or because you're just stuck with your pay check in the oil industry? Not cool

    • @MotoManTV
      @MotoManTV  7 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      I have made it NO secret that Tesla has no concept how to hit 'reply' to an e-mail or return phone calls. This show is NOT the only one they treat that way. We have tried to feature their cars on the show and they clearly have no interest. If an OEM does not want to do business with us, that is their decision and we will respect that. On the flip side, it is our business decision to exclude a car or brand because of poor access. As to your short sighted comment clearly from a Tesla/EV fan boy, HIGHLY suggest you watch the last segment of this episode again or our 'Buying a Used LEAF EV' episode (th-cam.com/video/HznLHnCui9k0/w-d-xo.html) to determine where our income is derived from . . . If you still feel the same way, the very good news is that there are many other car channels you can watch . . . Merry Christmas.

    • @supernova4300
      @supernova4300 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      MotoManTV I applaud the response. Fanboys annoy me so much. Thank you.

    • @MiniEggs1999
      @MiniEggs1999 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      John why should Tesla be mentioned here. The price difference is massive

    • @supernova4300
      @supernova4300 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Mini Eggs He's a Tesla Fanboy that's why. Tesla fanboy channels abound on TH-cam for people of his ilk to go and get their fix. Idk why he came here like he's trying to spoil it for the rest of us.

    • @stevec3526
      @stevec3526 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Wow, another snarky Tesla fanboi...
      Tesla rarely shows their cars even at auto shows. They were at the latest Seattle auto show for a change and they had 2 Ss and 2 Xs but no Model 3s on display. Makes it look like they were trying to hide something or very bad planning on their part. Also, charging extra for any color other than black sounds like gouging the consumer to me.
      Nissan had the 2018 Leaf on static display but it was locked and you could not sit in it. A definite turn off for people potentially interested in the car. By the way there were no Cadillacs on display this time, thought that was weird.