The study of weapons is essential to teach the Aikido, I never see Tissier using them, or very rarely , would you know how to explain why? For example, here to illustrate this notion of "limit", it would have been interesting to raise the subject with weapons...
words of sword - Generally, Tissier teaches sword once a week at his own dojo, and for an hour every morning when he teaches a multi-day seminar. You can find many videos on TH-cam of Tissier teaching sword, although perhaps you will find more content (and more recent content) if you look for videos of his high-level students, such as Marc Bachraty, Bruno Gonzalez, and Pascal Guillemin. For one of our own videos, look at “Cancelling” to see Tissier relate that concept to sword.
Seems odd, right? :D Generally, videos like these are only helpful to people who have been studying for a little while, so it probably seems pretty weird! Actually, martial-arts practitioners often use exercises like those shown here. They help us improve by isolating and exaggerating certain feelings and movements so you can build-up speed and a deeper understanding. We call it "kata". Think of it like practicing scales and music-theory when learning to play an instrument. :) The idea is that over time (many years, usually!) studying principles like this will improve spontaneity and freedom within the shape of the art. It takes a while though -- the teacher here has studied for more than 50 years and still says he is trying to improve! Hope this is helpful. :)
Brighton Aikikai I have studied Aikido for a while and still I don't get the rational of this. Ikkyo is a straightforward technique, we don't need to make it complicated with so many speeches and prevarications. And sorry, I don't see kata here, I mean in the context of Japanese martial arts. Kata is a series of movements and techniques that should prepare us to real fight. You can call this stuff an exercise, a game or a waste of time but not a KATA. Now I'm a Daito-Ryu Aikijujutsu (the martial root of Aikido) practitioner and all this stuff is quite odd for us. Ikkyo in Aikido is originated from the technique Ippondori in Daito-Ryu Aikijujutsu but the way the two techniques are applied is different. We enter with the most perfect timing (the commun principle between the two techniques) and a nakadaka-ipponken Atemi focused on vital point, then we unbalance the opponent in order to pin him. But I think what is shown here is classical in modern Aikido ie the objective is mainly that each person makes an optimal and healthy psycho-exercise in the attempt to perfect himself as an human being. Unfortunately, it "limits" the martial activity.
DoctoMac In fairness the lesson here is not Ikkyo, but the principle of extension, or "limit" as Tissier likes to say. If you're not used to this kind of lesson then yes, your criticism is quite understandable, and certainly not uncommon. (But I do like your comment about Ikkyo being both "straightforward" and requiring "the most perfect timing"!) There are many different ways of explaining the same things, and some things are difficult to explain no matter what. That's why it's important to practice. :)
+DoctoMac I love how this discussion leads to the words of Oosensei : Each and every master, regardless of the era or the place, heard the call and attained harmony with heaven and earth. There are many paths leading to the top of Mount Fuji, but there is only one summit: love.
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Interesting explanation.
The study of weapons is essential to teach the Aikido, I never see Tissier using them, or very rarely , would you know how to explain why? For example, here to illustrate this notion of "limit", it would have been interesting to raise the subject with weapons...
words of sword - Generally, Tissier teaches sword once a week at his own dojo, and for an hour every morning when he teaches a multi-day seminar.
You can find many videos on TH-cam of Tissier teaching sword, although perhaps you will find more content (and more recent content) if you look for videos of his high-level students, such as Marc Bachraty, Bruno Gonzalez, and Pascal Guillemin.
For one of our own videos, look at “Cancelling” to see Tissier relate that concept to sword.
ok, thanks, i will take a eye
What's the point of all this gibberish?
Seems odd, right? :D Generally, videos like these are only helpful to people who have been studying for a little while, so it probably seems pretty weird!
Actually, martial-arts practitioners often use exercises like those shown here. They help us improve by isolating and exaggerating certain feelings and movements so you can build-up speed and a deeper understanding. We call it "kata". Think of it like practicing scales and music-theory when learning to play an instrument. :)
The idea is that over time (many years, usually!) studying principles like this will improve spontaneity and freedom within the shape of the art. It takes a while though -- the teacher here has studied for more than 50 years and still says he is trying to improve!
Hope this is helpful. :)
Brighton Aikikai I have studied Aikido for a while and still I don't get the rational of this. Ikkyo is a straightforward technique, we don't need to make it complicated with so many speeches and prevarications.
And sorry, I don't see kata here, I mean in the context of Japanese martial arts. Kata is a series of movements and techniques that should prepare us to real fight. You can call this stuff an exercise, a game or a waste of time but not a KATA.
Now I'm a Daito-Ryu Aikijujutsu (the martial root of Aikido) practitioner and all this stuff is quite odd for us. Ikkyo in Aikido is originated from the technique Ippondori in Daito-Ryu Aikijujutsu but the way the two techniques are applied is different. We enter with the most perfect timing (the commun principle between the two techniques) and a nakadaka-ipponken Atemi focused on vital point, then we unbalance the opponent in order to pin him.
But I think what is shown here is classical in modern Aikido ie the objective is mainly that each person makes an optimal and healthy psycho-exercise in the attempt to perfect himself as an human being. Unfortunately, it "limits" the martial activity.
DoctoMac In fairness the lesson here is not Ikkyo, but the principle of extension, or "limit" as Tissier likes to say.
If you're not used to this kind of lesson then yes, your criticism is quite understandable, and certainly not uncommon. (But I do like your comment about Ikkyo being both "straightforward" and requiring "the most perfect timing"!)
There are many different ways of explaining the same things, and some things are difficult to explain no matter what. That's why it's important to practice. :)
Brighton Aikikai Yes I know but but it's supposed to prepare for performing Ikkyo.
+DoctoMac I love how this discussion leads to the words of Oosensei :
Each and every master, regardless of the era or the place, heard the call and attained harmony with heaven and earth. There are many paths leading to the top of Mount Fuji, but there is only one summit: love.