DCS World - F-14 Tomcat - Bombing Quick Tips (Jester, RIO, Computer Pilot/Target, Lofting)
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- In this video we explore all of the different bombing options using both Jester and playing a RIO. We take a look at Computer Pilot (CCIP) and Computer Target (CCRP) modes and then we take a look at Lofting. Enjoy!
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The RIO part of the tutorial begins at 4:36 and ends at 7:40
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The reason for the 2nd attack run feeling a bit off (pipper coming up so late) was, that you selected "MK-82 H" on the RIO ballistics selection (which is high drag bombs).
Turning it to "MK-82 L" would have solved that problem. :)
You're attack angle was so steep that you hit anyway though, so no harm done!
The correct phraseology is " put the thing on the thing "
Of course it is it's beside thingamajig in the dictionary
Thanks for the tutorial, I finally figured it out. The first mode you didn't mention when exactly to hold and release the pickle, but now I realise it is always between the two que lines. Cheers!
Jabbers these are fantastic! Thank you for doing this!
Great video jabz. Thanks for all your hard work my friend. You make my evenings far more enjoyable. DCS, after all, is about learning
Thank's for the Quick Tip, may I suggest the LANTIRN A/A mode as a topic for the next one?
Nice one mate. Enjoying the quick tips series.
Loft bombing is great for large targets or frag bombs on soft targets. Great video, thank you!
Thanks alot, I need LOTS of practice, trying to hit a big ass factory, so far managed to hit the cars parked outside and leave the factory unscathed!
That’s a morale hit if nothing else....just imagine it was bring in your classic day!
Correction: During the 2nd Computer Pilot demonstration I accidentally picked MK82H (High Drag) so the piper was being calculated incorrectly, this is why it was a very last minute deployment.
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A fun thing with lofting, you can do it on targets with laser guided bombs if a helicopter is designating the target. It’s a ton of fun to launch from behind a mountain and have the helicopter guide it in.
great video - thank you very much
Very good top🙏
Hello, thanks Jabbers! But have you noticed that you could turn on the TV to greatly help your target designation in CCRP mode? It is indeed slaved to the HUD diamond in this configuration!
Ya I did that in the video after this one “computer initial point”
LANTIRN with GBU-12 has been a blast practicing with the F-14, maybe you can cover this pod in the next video :)
This is the best tutorial ever
Great video, thanks!!! Lots of go aheads tho! :)
Go ahead
Jabbers, thanks so much for all of your informative and insightful videos... especially the funny ones. One question though, which servers do you and Sport frequent?
BF usually
@@Jabbers Thanks!, eh, sorry, not familiar with the acronym... could you spell that out please?
Blue flag
@@Jabbers Thanks! BTW, love your videos, tutorials and knowledge. Where do you learn about all these aircraft?
Thanks for these quick tips, first week of this thing has been the most learning I've done for a module in a long time!
Do have a quick question though, why is bomb mode for the wing sweep a thing?
I know the when/how, I just dunno the "why", unless it's something as simple as just a way to lock the wings so your trim doesn't go hugely out of whack while you're trying to run in?
it's the most stable configuration for handling the plane, it's why you use it in AAR.
As far as i know it is because the manuvering flaps are deactivated in bombing wing sweep, so the ccip pipper is not affected by any changes of the flaps. Pls correct me if im wrong :D
its because it locks the wings back and when the wings retract past 55 degrees (I think its 55, don't quote me, but its not important haha) the manuevering flaps/slats etc are also locked.
that's why its the most stable configuration.
Great video as always, I'd just apprecieate if you could up all those at higher resolutions. I know you did already in some cases, which is great. 1920x810 in combination with that wide FOV makes it hard to follow sometimes as the vital parts are just tiny. Higher res makes it possible to watch through VLC and just crop the image to 16:9 or 16:10 without losing image quality. Scaling 810px up however just blurs things up. And I guess that would look a lot better on 21:9 screens as well :)
Too bad we can't target waypoints as seen in the videos prior to hte release, but understandable due to the INS precision. Now bring on the Tornado IDS in a few years, HB ;D
It should be 1440p not 810, I have an ultrawide 3440x1440p which is what I’m recording in, cutting the sides is tough cause the view ends up looking really zoomed in which I’m not always a fan of, and I have to be conscious of screen space while recording to make sure what I’m talking about is in view, pros and cons to both sides
Great vid as always. What method are you using to navigate through the Jester menus? Do have something mapped or do you use TIR?
It’s an option in special options
@@Jabbers Yes sir. I know. I was wondering if that is the method you are using. In your videos, you seem to go through the selections so quickly without error.
I just use TrackIR and move my head in the direction i wanna select. Then just press Toggle Menu binding to select it
Great video! Is there a way to designate a target by means of a waypoint (e.g., WP1, WP2, WP3, IP, ST, FP)? Thank you for your continued support to the community. Furthermore, it would be interesting to test out lofting laser guided bombs, with terminal guidance being provided by ground assets. I suppose the range would be substantial, considering you could be well over Mach 1.
No, this was removed as it was not something they did IRL do to poor INS, according to the SMEs
@@JabbersDid not know that. Thank you so much. On a side note, it seems, from what I researched, that the F-14D could and did, in fact, deploy JDAMs in this way. In any case, thank you for the great video once again.
@@MrCyclos1985 Well, the -D had massively upgraded avionics, including GPS integration, so it would make sense to have that capability. But the only way to compensate for INS drift in the -A/-B is either RADAR fixes, fly-over fixes, or TACAN updating; you can use waypoint navigation to fly to the target, but you still have to fix/range with the RADAR and the HUD cursor for computer-guided bombing (offset or direct).
A tutorial or F14 RIO and Pilot setup and bomb run over lased target, where the lasing is being done by someone else and you know the code and rough position. The lasing could be from a ground unit, JTAC or buddy lasing.
thx but how to cahnge between CCRP and CCIP mode . A MK82 could be dropped in both or not ? and is it possible to dop a bomb mix like 2 MK82 and 2 MK83 or some cluster bombs; perhaps not with levelbombing but in a dive or low level run it should be accurate enough.
Hey Jabbers, thank you again for your videos. Is it possible to pre-planned a Computer-Target on a steerpoint? Isn't it the idea behind the "surface target" markpoint ?
Well that was exact the same Question i wanted to ask.... :D I assume this is also with manual surface traget and jester possible... but how to tell the computer to use this reference as target? Thanks in advance Jabbers
As far as I know, this is not the case. There is the CMPTR IP ATTK MODE, which the RIO can select, which is a way to designate a target via the Initial Point, set via the CAP. To use this the RIO first sets up the IP, then there's an option in the CAP which is called something like "IP TO TGT" and the RIO can designate the target, starting with the Initial Point and then setting the elevation difference, heading and range from the IP, all using the CAP.
If you go by the manual this seems to be a way to help the pilot pick out a target if he is unable to get a visual on it. the IP is supposed to be an outstanding landmark. So it's probably not your primary way to attack a target.
Herr KaLeun when using that mode you basically have to designate the ip the same way you would a regular ccrp attack and then the computer moves the actual designated point to the new one based on what you entered into the cap
You can’t, this ability was removed from the game as it was not something they did according to the SMEs
what does it mean when the big sulotion cue comes down before the small 1?
actually, there was a little mistake in your first rio setup. you selected mk-82-H which stands for high drag (mk82 witch chutes) so your bombs did hit because you were on a very steep dive. You saw your pipper appeared very late because it though you had mk-82-air on board.
Great vid Jabbers! I have an issue though. As soon as I press PAL after adjusting the CCRP pipper to desired target location it just moves it completely off to the side of the HUD. As if the location is off or something. Also one of the needles in my compass keeps spinning and I cant seem to figure out why.
EDIT I just tried in PG instead of nevada and everything worked fine.. hmm
On the BDHI ("compass"), the needle is constantly spinning because you don't have a TACAN station dialed up, so the spin lets you know that you're not getting any TACAN info.
Pretty sure you selected Mk 82 high-drag (snake eyes) on the armament panel, which is why it took so long for your pipper to pop up on the second pass and the bombs fell long. The computer thought you were dropping different bombs.
You arent wrong :)
@@Jabbers Thought it was worth mentioning in case some other people had questions about it. You're an awesome pilot, so it's definitely not a mark against you - I've made mistakes in some tutorials in my other channel myself so I know we can't be 100% perfect all the time. Keep kicking ass, man!
Great vid Jabbers, thanks.Is it possible to use the TV for putting the diamond more accurately on the target in CCRP mode?
With A/G the IR/TV should be slaved to the HUD of the pilot, making it a more precise option to designate the targets in the CMPTR TGT (Sudo CCRP) mode.
@@AsRedAsBlood7 thx sir, I will try that after work. I'm not familiar with the use of tv slave mode. Head on manual now 🤓
@@jejelerider3278 It's quite usefull for attacking ground targets using the Zuni rockets, or even the gun, since the IR/TV is slaved directly to the HUD pipper, giving you higher accuracy, though it's something to get used to, just flying off of the IR/TV
@@AsRedAsBlood7 ok thank you, I'm not a bombcat pilot, I have to test the a/g mode.
Hi Jabbers! Just a quick question, is the Computer IP mode implemented yet? Myself and a buddy tested it in caucasus today and it seemed not to work properly (at least compared to the manual): when my pilot designated the IP point, the target did not shift using the data i had input into the WCS as RIO, it just gave the release cues as per normal Computer Target mode. Thanks, and keep up the good work on the series!
AFAIK you cannot designate via coordinates, earlier in testing you could but it was removed because SMEs said they didnt do this due to lack of precision in the INS (185 meters?)
@@Jabbers Yes, i read that in some other comments, but my pilot designated the IP visually as by the manual procedure; if Computer IP is no longer implemented i wish Heatblur would specify it as a note after the weapon delivery section, else people like me who read the entire thing will try to do stuff that may not work :P Thanks anyway Jabbers!
Looks like the second attack had the mk82 H setting instead of L, which I assume means the high drag. May be why the release pipper didn't show up until the last second. Technically while you did score a hit on a target, from rewatching the footage it appears to be the wrong target as to what you released on.
You might be right
Jester is slowly becoming my only friend
for CCRP: do you have to let go of the bomb release button once the upper line is passed? or does the bombs come off automatically during press and hold?
It comes off when the upper cue passed through your tvv, so hold the button till that’s done, you should hear it, then you can release
@@Jabbers aight thanks
Any vids coming of being able to laser guide your own bomb in multiplayer with the LANTIRN? Aka using jester commands only?
He doesn't currently support lantirn
@@Jabbers bummer, thanks!
Thanks alot Jabbers :) can you tell us how to set the Radar as silent in Rio seat ? Thanks man
I believe it is the silver toggle switch to the right of the radar/TID joystick. I believe forward is emit, middle is silent and back is off.
@@robertcurtis1191 you mean the WCS control ? I tried that but the antenna still shakes around not sure about it...I wish you could test it since I'm not able to play MP . thanks a lot
WE CALL IT BOMBCAT
Nice video, I noticed my piper line is displaced to the left, and if I put the target there bombs don't hit it. It seems to displace even more as I fly, do you know how can I center it again?
Are you flying to hard? Internal alignment systems can get messed up if so
@@Jabbers That might be it, I'll try to fly it more gentle and see if the line stays centered. Thanks
Jabbers in your first stream you had the computer point pre setup, where you bomb the airfield, how do we do that, can we do that?
It's not possible in the release version
That can only achieve by human rio i think,
You can’t, this ability was removed from the game as it was not something they did according to the SMEs
@@Jabbers thank you for the reply kind sir. might have to refund it now :D I joke I joke
@@Jabbers That does make me very sad, because loft-bombing pre-planned targets from great distances and over terrain obstacles was something I was very much looking forward to. I wasn't worried about accuracy; I wanted to hit things like dams and airfield parking aprons and runways. Imagine three Tomcats coming in low-level near the mach in trail, then popping up and tossing 36 Mk82's into the air before turning cold to avoid a sheet of incoming Tors. Then it just starts raining iron and fire all over the base. It was going to be bad ass! But, alas...
can you take a ground target on the TID and have it represented on the HUD?
Yes
are those MK-82s on BRU-41s in the thumbnail?
Hahaha ya, did that for the laughs, obviously not a real loadout
obviously.... that’s a weird way to spell „sadly“ xD
Who needs the A-6 of you could have this? :D
what is weapons release for bombs under the controls?
Store release
The computer target option does not appear anymore ??
What mode (ccip or ccrp) do I have to be in for lantirn laser guided bombs dropping?
Manual
@@Sundowner111 Thanks!
Ccip works as well, just have to release when the tgp tells you to.
What is the weapons release button or what is the name so I can bind it to my hotas?
Pretty sure it's called weapon release
I don't know what the hell is wrong with my game, but when I'm in the RIO seat and use the LANTIRN slew commands, left, right, aft, and up all make the pod slew upwards lmao..
Top gun 2
Can the Rio designate a target with the camera display?
Interesting, I hadn’t explored that
@@Jabbers any results?
Please do a step by step rio and pilot aim54 guide. My rio and I still cannot get the missiles off the rails lol
Literally my previous video ;)
How would you CCRP a nav point designated on the F10 map?
YES THIS!
You can’t, this ability was removed from the game as it was not something they did according to the SMEs
@@Jabbers I see. Would it be possible to designate a drop point by LANTIRN?
@@Jabbers how about laser designation on waypoints by on ground JTAC? would be nice to drop bombs from above the clouds.
@RSharpe, if you are designating via LANTIRN, just use LANTIRNs drop cues
@ThePtr83 You could drop in the general direction ,but there is no way to pick up a laser as a designation like you can in the harrier.
01:42 "This one's pretty self explanatory" - it isn't for me, Nose tail and Nose?
Does it pop when the nose hits, the tail, or either
Jabbers well that was simple thanks
There isn't a way to set a target point? Like against a fixed defended target wouldn't you want to set the target from the mission brief, then low level out to it, and ether sneak pass, or toss the bombs in?
U can set targets in the Mission Editor yes
@@Jabbers can you show that?
Nah I'm done making tutorials right now. Sorry
@@Jabbers lol, yeah I bet they take forever to edit together. I'll try to figure it out. I know how to make the target point a way point. Just need to see if I can make the waypoint a target in computer target. It would be odd if I can't. But hay the Cat wasn't really ever ment to be a ground pounder. If Heatblur had full training missions to wouldn't be an issue.
It's not odd really, tomcat was not originally made for bombing, a lot of that stuff came with the D variant
Am I right in assuming the Computer IP mode would use the IP "waypoint" as a target?
You cannot waypoint bomb targets, it was removed as the INS is not accurate enough and not something they did
@@Jabbers but that was the intention of that switch setting? If not what is it?
Figured it all out will make a video, it’s not what you think
@@Jabbers all right, Mr. suspense! 😂👍
What is the actual name of the pickle button? It's not in the settings under that name.
Weapon release?
How do you record in vr without distortion?
You don't, this is not VR, I'm using TrackIR
@@Jabbers damn, alright thanks for the fast reply and great video
What’s the button for pickle? It’s not the same as for missiles cuz it just shoots my gun
Weapon release or release weapon, check the stick category
@@Jabbers Thanks man I found out how, another question when turning on the LANTIRN how do you know when you can Arm the lazer? because sometimes i think i arm it too soon and it just turns into a black screen :/
When you turn the dial to PC0 it takes 9 minutes to align, then you press STBY and flip the laser switch to ARM, thats all i do.
@@Jabbers Alright man thank you so much!!!!!
Is the only way to target something visually? I keep getting shredded by AAA
Accurately yes
Cockpit looks so small on 2D. In VR it feels like a huge cockpit compared to the other planes.
I get the opposite effect, maybe cause screensize comes into play for 2d
How do you go into bomb mode?
Set your hud to Air to ground, right side near your knee
@@Jabbers thanks, great videos 👍
Is it me or is it super difficult to use the TGP mode as a pilot? extreme hard to get a ground target locked up..
That's why you need a Rio 😂
What button is it to actually drop the bombs
Store Release
Jabbers thanks so much
where is weapon relase buton
GBU'S with Jester? I can't, for the life of me, figure out how to get Jester to laze a target.
You can’t yet cause he doesn’t use the LANTIRN
Yeah it's impossible atm, though I found a mod that allows you to bind the LANTIRN to the pilot seat, so you can use it with Jester. Let me look for the link.
That would explain why my hour of flying around yelling at Jester yielded zero results. Thanks for the quick replies everyone!
@Ryan Lynch that feature is getting patched out, I don’t suggest getting use to it
@@Jabbers How soon though? Like next hotflix or a month out?
Thats the most American thumbnail ive ever seen
why are you quick tips 20 minutes long, still great video i learned a lot!
Fair point, I I guess quick for me on the production side of things, typically I do a lot more
@@Jabbers It's fine for me, the tips are Quick but with there are many tips , so the 20 minutes is normal ^^ ( it's not as if it was called "quick video for bombing tips)
Wassup with that thumbnail
Bomb truck 😂
;-)
I wish every building was destructable
I’m fairly certain you can destroy all buildings, but they require a lot of very direct hits
@@Jabbers wow ok I shall have to experiment more lol
Where is the pickel keyyyyyyy im so confused
Weapon release
@@Jabbers thank you eveywhere i look nobody gave the keybind 🤪😂
More F6 view next time please
More useful comments next time please
in ccrp you push WHAT ?????? for lock ...power... pawa... pound.... what???
You say open the menu but you don't say what key it is in you know basic stuff ;)
Hi Jabbers, I find your videos very helpful, but I have to make one remark; in all of your videos you have a habit of using "go ahead and...." A LOOOOT. In this video, I have counted you saying "go ahead" THIRTY THREE times, which is practically two times per minute. There really is no need for this and it gets really tedious once you start noticing this... I hope you find a way of reducing this habit somewhat as the videos are really great content-wise... Don't mean to rant or anything, but I am sure you can further improve the quality of your work by paying attention to this.
I’ll go ahead and work on that!
Click bait.... -1 sub lol
Seeing an F-14 loaded with bombs is a sad thing...