just love how you always really discuss all the point of views on a subject and then encourage your viewers to reflect on it all the while being respectful of other people’s opinion. I know it sounds pretty logic to think this way but sometimes people can be a bit too dramatic on the internet. keep up the good work Undead!
I wouldn't say that master duel Is way worse way more variety at least in duel links u actually have a turn and can win a game master duel you don't even get a turn
I like playing Nekroz variants and i can actually play pretty well against most floodgates. Such as summon breaker, heat wave (valkyrus stalling), winda (brionac). The only issue is that nekroz also like to use the graveyard / banish cards. Which is why i use small engines or other archetypes that can mitigate those restrictions.
I'll admit they are terrible when you are up against someone using a lot of lingering effects but they are a necessary evil or you'll be seeing a bunch of combo decks, chain decks, and summoning from the graveyard a ba-zillion times to floodgate you, which isn't any better than lingering effects. Sounds to me this is a complaint from people who are annoyed they can't use their graveyard as their second hand or something tbh. smh
Stun effects are fine all around, just means tou have to think more in the deck building phase about what your deck loses to and if you need to add in some resilience to those kind of effects.
@@gabrielgray7296 good shot. But this is a 1 time situation, it's not like u gonna pop out the sphere every game + they literally can go everything, so, just waiting for another ban, for deck/skill
Really handy overview. As a new player is the lack of having these cards (missed the recent box) going to hamper me so much that I’m screwed? What’s the best replacement for something like Lancea in the interim when I have no real gate cards?
Lingering effect i hate the most when playing shiranui is u always have shade in hand every damn time its infuriating, and current meta really hate zombie rn 😢
As a long time trapnui player, just survive these lingering effects and win the war of attrition with grave and banish resources later is nothing new. The real question I have is why are so many people running so many tech options that dont do diddly against the most popular and powerful deck in the game rather than ones aimed at that deck like massive piles of backrow hate? I'm probably running into 3 blue eyes for every graveyard deck. I ran lancia for a bit, but cut it for cosmic because a card that only helps going second against a comparatively small chunk of my actual matchups isn't as useful as popping blue eyes back row. Anywho if the name of the game is to just survive the turn then they'll turn me back to the old me. People running around talking about traps like I ain't gone. What? You think I sold them all?
I played against blue eyes and couldn't get special summon from the grave before sandphond activate its effect, can someone confirm if its a bug or not?
I think some cards with lingering effects are generally bad but most of these I personally don't think are that bad except maybe the skill. Dweller, sanaphond, lancea have never been completely broken in the actual game. Broken lingering effects are the ones that you can't really react too. Currently in the tcg and masterduel, that would include cards like barrier, and shifter. Heat wave kind of falls in that category too though.
This is by far the worst meta duel links has had in a good while. Skills are completely out of control. Agents are way too busted it’s either draw Lancea or lose. Might be time for a break for me honestly
For some reason people find it normal to abuse graveyard and effect monsters resulting on turns that take forever while crying about cards that shut down their strategies, if you have the right to put three copies of "Mezuki" in the graveyard to special summons multiple times from the grave potentially using a "Burial from a different dimension" to recycle your ''Mezuki(s)", then I have the right to say no thank u, period!
why does konami keep printing decks that rely on the graveyard if its a bad thing? its not like its a few here or there, almost every deck in the game has grave strategies -undead
No, you shouldn't have the right to say "NO" to an entire strategy even for 1 turn. You can play things like dd crow to reduce the power of these strategies but using lancea and stopping them almost entirely is not ok
@@team6kdl I didn't say that relying on the graveyard is a bad thing, forcing people to watch u minutes doing your combos that relies on the graveyard can be a bad thing for your opponent and he should have the right also to stop u from doing so!
@@JerrySpringerl "No, you shouldn't have the right to say "NO" to an entire strategy even for 1 turn" ^ By which standards exactly ? u guys have a specific way of playing the game trying to force everyone to adopt it! U have the right to base your strategy on the grave and i have the right to shutdown your grave, if u insist that i shouldn't have the right to do so then i simply insist that u shouldn't have the right to force me watching u couple of minutes recycling your monsters and bringing your boss monsters one by one!
I don’t remember the deck archetype but it is that most recent snake like deck. The cards can respond to battle chronicles sending a card to grave. You can technically respond to 1 skill.
@@team6kdl this is my experience. I activate battle chronicles to add a card then send a normal monster to grave. Opponent responds to send monster from deck to grave with a monster card that responds to a card being sent from deck to grave.
Not using Effects in the GY. Extenders are often extremely useful in GY. Time to make a deck that does everything from hand or field. Or play PK and swim against the waves.
Since when floodgates stop the chaos and brings balance? For the examples in DL, BE laughs about Heat wave since vanilla (Normal summon a lvl 8 btw, totally what Konami thought by making Heat wave...) + backrow, Ophion can straight up kill lots of decks ("Just draw BoM bro, ez") and Winda is summoned AFTER whole combo is done, or during opponent's turn so the drawback of two sided floodgate is skipped Going for normal formats thou... Shock Master, Rank force shenanigans (Elder Entity), Utopic Zexal, Calamity (Both True king & RDA), Scythe (At least on TCG), Protos (Till recently at least) and for regular floodgates Buster Whelp (Please tell me isn't in DL) & Rhongo are banned, same for fun cards like I.O and Skill drain... Floodgates are far from balanced, in that turns the scale in favor of the player who built the deck around it... Sure, are fragile, but please, tell me you're actually building your list to counter those, instead of going for extenders & regular interrupts (Thus, why stuff like BoM still thrives due to versatility) And good luck with those floodgates balancing a stablished board of Agents, PK, Snake-eyes or SHS... Sure that Summon breaker / limit will do wonders
Lingering effects ive been saying they are broken but people say im coping. Thing is, for me something balanced is something you can play against. Now if opp goes first, u cant negate with chalice and other negates whose job is negating it. Thats why its broken. also these lingering effects break most meta decks... its just toxic.
There are plenty videos talking about what is enjoyable about the game but the complaining videos tend to get more views. The thing is though, complaining is not toxic. Complaining is wanting better for the game, pointing out what is wrong with it and how it can be better is constructive. -Undead
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3 out of the 5 lingering effects are in Blue eyes. Coincidence that they are Tier 1 right now? I think not.
just love how you always really discuss all the point of views on a subject and then encourage your viewers to reflect on it all the while being respectful of other people’s opinion. I know it sounds pretty logic to think this way but sometimes people can be a bit too dramatic on the internet. keep up the good work Undead!
Survival is an op strategy. Kiteroid to 1.
I suffer from the worst kind of lingering effect. Konami not giving any of my decks new support.
Black wings one day
@@bobbywasabi5752 Let's keep Blackwing supportless for a bit more, I rather not deal with the new shenanigans they can pull.
@@doctorplague6967😂
Bit by bit this game is catching up Master Duel... in "worstness"
I wouldn't say that master duel Is way worse way more variety at least in duel links u actually have a turn and can win a game master duel you don't even get a turn
Very nice interprition, loved the video. you taught me something i didint know about heat wave, thanks.
I'm glad it was helpful bro! -undead
Yall make excellent videos. Super valuable information. Keep it up guys!
thanks bro! -undead
I like playing Nekroz variants and i can actually play pretty well against most floodgates. Such as summon breaker, heat wave (valkyrus stalling), winda (brionac). The only issue is that nekroz also like to use the graveyard / banish cards. Which is why i use small engines or other archetypes that can mitigate those restrictions.
I'll admit they are terrible when you are up against someone using a lot of lingering effects but they are a necessary evil or you'll be seeing a bunch of combo decks, chain decks, and summoning from the graveyard a ba-zillion times to floodgate you, which isn't any better than lingering effects. Sounds to me this is a complaint from people who are annoyed they can't use their graveyard as their second hand or something tbh. smh
Stun effects are fine all around, just means tou have to think more in the deck building phase about what your deck loses to and if you need to add in some resilience to those kind of effects.
After playing multiple times against agents turn 1 with effects like: no summon, no spells, Im done
yeah honestly it would be a good time to take a break from the game -undead
I managed to beat agents consistently, by using raidraptors with Ra sphere mode.
@@gabrielgray7296 good shot. But this is a 1 time situation, it's not like u gonna pop out the sphere every game + they literally can go everything, so, just waiting for another ban, for deck/skill
Hey my guys I’m thinking of getting back into duel links with a link deck. What advice would you fellas suggest
I'd recommend the new darkfluid deck ill be making a guide for it soon -undead
do you think metalfoes could use heatwave? im trying to actually use KOG with it any tips?
I think the issue is that they want to summon an effect monster fusion as an interruption so i dont think they could use it -undead
another knowledge acquired thanks man
no worries man -undead
Really handy overview. As a new player is the lack of having these cards (missed the recent box) going to hamper me so much that I’m screwed? What’s the best replacement for something like Lancea in the interim when I have no real gate cards?
Unfortunately, Lancea is necessary in the current meta. You can play DD Crow or Skull Meister to replace Lancea tho it won't be as effective
As a zombie player i can relate. Lancea ruined my life
That's what you deserve
Good
I understand this all to well. Like losing top 4 of the very first 6k Saturday night live to Heat Wave and Sanaphond 😂
Can u do a Darkfluid guide ?
Lingering effect i hate the most when playing shiranui is u always have shade in hand every damn time its infuriating, and current meta really hate zombie rn 😢
Is droll and lock bird a good hand trap for this meta?
It isnt just because skills exist and ignore the card completely
@@TheDouradaGrelhada aight thanks cuz I got it from a box dont remember which and wanted to try using it
Can you make new rokket guide with new skill?
we will see if we have time, we dont have the cards just yet -undead
I've never survived the use of heat wave 😂...good thing most people dont have it since they dont level up their chatacters for some reason
Can you give me some tips on beating sky strikers? I’m using a shiranui deck
survive as long as you can but its rough they are pretty good against it -undead
As a long time trapnui player, just survive these lingering effects and win the war of attrition with grave and banish resources later is nothing new. The real question I have is why are so many people running so many tech options that dont do diddly against the most popular and powerful deck in the game rather than ones aimed at that deck like massive piles of backrow hate? I'm probably running into 3 blue eyes for every graveyard deck. I ran lancia for a bit, but cut it for cosmic because a card that only helps going second against a comparatively small chunk of my actual matchups isn't as useful as popping blue eyes back row.
Anywho if the name of the game is to just survive the turn then they'll turn me back to the old me. People running around talking about traps like I ain't gone. What? You think I sold them all?
I played against blue eyes and couldn't get special summon from the grave before sandphond activate its effect, can someone confirm if its a bug or not?
they probably activated it on their own turn, its not a quick effect like abyss dweller -undead
Sandphond effect last 2 turns so if they use it on their turn it will last till the end of your turn.
Can someone give some tips for beating stal decks (limiter area b + lava golem)
Mst and negate effetct. Try to push through
@@razielstalker i just cant too many flud gates
@@sime2586 jinzo then
Lancea gave me a lot of wins. It's the only chance I have if I go second against banishing reliant decks. Otherwise I just can't make any play
I used saphion and that artifsct lancea against phantom knights it and it was funny
I think some cards with lingering effects are generally bad but most of these I personally don't think are that bad except maybe the skill. Dweller, sanaphond, lancea have never been completely broken in the actual game. Broken lingering effects are the ones that you can't really react too. Currently in the tcg and masterduel, that would include cards like barrier, and shifter. Heat wave kind of falls in that category too though.
Dweller, sanaphond, and lancea have all been broken in the tcg actually -undead
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@@team6kdl 🔥🔥🔥
This is by far the worst meta duel links has had in a good while.
Skills are completely out of control. Agents are way too busted it’s either draw Lancea or lose.
Might be time for a break for me honestly
7:08 bruh
For some reason people find it normal to abuse graveyard and effect monsters resulting on turns that take forever while crying about cards that shut down their strategies, if you have the right to put three copies of "Mezuki" in the graveyard to special summons multiple times from the grave potentially using a "Burial from a different dimension" to recycle your ''Mezuki(s)", then I have the right to say no thank u, period!
why does konami keep printing decks that rely on the graveyard if its a bad thing? its not like its a few here or there, almost every deck in the game has grave strategies -undead
No, you shouldn't have the right to say "NO" to an entire strategy even for 1 turn. You can play things like dd crow to reduce the power of these strategies but using lancea and stopping them almost entirely is not ok
@@team6kdl I didn't say that relying on the graveyard is a bad thing, forcing people to watch u minutes doing your combos that relies on the graveyard can be a bad thing for your opponent and he should have the right also to stop u from doing so!
@@JerrySpringerl
"No, you shouldn't have the right to say "NO" to an entire strategy even for 1 turn"
^ By which standards exactly ? u guys have a specific way of playing the game trying to force everyone to adopt it!
U have the right to base your strategy on the grave and i have the right to shutdown your grave, if u insist that i shouldn't have the right to do so then i simply insist that u shouldn't have the right to force me watching u couple of minutes recycling your monsters and bringing your boss monsters one by one!
Tck as if other deck is not playing solitaire, pk Raid agents player took longer to finish their combo than any zombie deck
I don’t remember the deck archetype but it is that most recent snake like deck. The cards can respond to battle chronicles sending a card to grave. You can technically respond to 1 skill.
thats against the rules, you are likely mistaking it for something else happening -undead
@@team6kdl this is my experience. I activate battle chronicles to add a card then send a normal monster to grave. Opponent responds to send monster from deck to grave with a monster card that responds to a card being sent from deck to grave.
@@team6kdl I found the card that responds to battle chronicles sending a monster from deck to grave: Amunessia, the Ogdoadic Queen.
@@TheWhiteMamba3000cards cant respond to skills
Lancea needs to be Limit 3 after the WCQ. It's hurting too many decks that Konami wants to sell. There's no counter, either
I agree
What about limiting "Mezuki" to two instead ? 🤣
well. they have lancea to counter our counter lol.
Not using Effects in the GY.
Extenders are often extremely useful in GY.
Time to make a deck that does everything from hand or field.
Or play PK and swim against the waves.
I stopped playing when yusei from 5ds came out. Thought about coming back but after seeing this video im good.
it isnt normally like this, its just a bad time right now -undead
Without floodgates all the game would be chaotic and unbalanced
The majority of duel links history has been floodgate free, and the majority of duel links history has been balanced. -Undead
Since when floodgates stop the chaos and brings balance? For the examples in DL, BE laughs about Heat wave since vanilla (Normal summon a lvl 8 btw, totally what Konami thought by making Heat wave...) + backrow, Ophion can straight up kill lots of decks ("Just draw BoM bro, ez") and Winda is summoned AFTER whole combo is done, or during opponent's turn so the drawback of two sided floodgate is skipped
Going for normal formats thou... Shock Master, Rank force shenanigans (Elder Entity), Utopic Zexal, Calamity (Both True king & RDA), Scythe (At least on TCG), Protos (Till recently at least) and for regular floodgates Buster Whelp (Please tell me isn't in DL) & Rhongo are banned, same for fun cards like I.O and Skill drain...
Floodgates are far from balanced, in that turns the scale in favor of the player who built the deck around it... Sure, are fragile, but please, tell me you're actually building your list to counter those, instead of going for extenders & regular interrupts (Thus, why stuff like BoM still thrives due to versatility)
And good luck with those floodgates balancing a stablished board of Agents, PK, Snake-eyes or SHS... Sure that Summon breaker / limit will do wonders
😂😂😂😂 poor Mezukis
Lingering effects ive been saying they are broken but people say im coping. Thing is, for me something balanced is something you can play against. Now if opp goes first, u cant negate with chalice and other negates whose job is negating it. Thats why its broken. also these lingering effects break most meta decks... its just toxic.
Thanks the current meta is full with GF effect momster so. Hhhh 😂😂
i hate this. it force the turn 1 to be the turn 2😂😂
yeah bro i hate it too -undead
MF what the F did you say??? 7:07
Truth
is it a surprise that a guy that called himself undead would be into zombies -undead
لا يهمني هذا الهراء ارجو منك ان لا تكون عنصريا وتتكلم بما لا تعلم انا من العراق وقد ازعجني كلامك Go translate this shet@@team6kdl
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You search duel links on TH-cam. All you see are videos complaining about the game. What a toxic community
There are plenty videos talking about what is enjoyable about the game but the complaining videos tend to get more views. The thing is though, complaining is not toxic. Complaining is wanting better for the game, pointing out what is wrong with it and how it can be better is constructive. -Undead
68 don't linger it's effect stopps if it flipped face down
No it doesn't, it being removed from the field doesnt erase the effect. Maybe you flipped it down before it even activated -undead