Utah Mom Youtuber Ruby Frankie Arrested for Severe Child Abuse | Criminal Lawyer Reacts

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  • @megorex630
    @megorex630 ปีที่แล้ว +615

    She said that children don’t deserve unconditional love… yet she expects it from her kids. I hope she’s never let out.

    • @Creepystalker102
      @Creepystalker102 ปีที่แล้ว +47

      Good point, how on earth are they supposed to do something that they have never seen modeled?

    • @jimreilly917
      @jimreilly917 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Yes.

    • @Godzilla00X
      @Godzilla00X ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Narcissists expect the be treated like royalty but can't even comprehend thinking about others

    • @bluspirit5602
      @bluspirit5602 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well to be fair kids nor parents deserve unconditional love

    • @megorex630
      @megorex630 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Godzilla00X so true. My ex husband was a narcissistic social and pathological liar… and he really did gaslight me to the point where I felt crazy so I just gave up and just became a “yes man”

  • @Hossak
    @Hossak ปีที่แล้ว +580

    Bruce talking about how his dad used to beat him and how he never did the same to his kids - he is just extra awesome :)

    • @pattimaeda6097
      @pattimaeda6097 ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Then by interpolation I’m “awesome” too - same happened to me and I didn’t hit my kid either

    • @Hossak
      @Hossak ปีที่แล้ว

      Yup - you're awesome.@@pattimaeda6097

    • @lisahesslink2267
      @lisahesslink2267 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      @@pattimaeda6097 Yes you are - violence in families often tends to continue over generations. SO good for you.

    • @sallonemia
      @sallonemia ปีที่แล้ว +33

      @@pattimaeda6097 yeah you are! stopping the cycle of abuse is an awesome act.

    • @grayaj23
      @grayaj23 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@pattimaeda6097 Bonafide awesome!

  • @shannon2003
    @shannon2003 ปีที่แล้ว +1125

    Thank you for your speech on not hitting children. I was beaten and slapped and had a broken arm from my parents. I’m 71 and it still haunts me.

    • @musicismagic3001
      @musicismagic3001 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      I am so sorry that happened to you. 😢 You never, ever could deserve that. You are loved. ((Hugs))💕

    • @dpav02
      @dpav02 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      This is so sad to read. But thank you for saying it. 71 and still dealing with childhood trauma. That’s so sad :/
      I hope you can find peace.

    • @jenniferfriesen7691
      @jenniferfriesen7691 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      I’m sorry you went through that.

    • @bobtaylor170
      @bobtaylor170 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      ❤ I'm so sorry.

    • @katella
      @katella ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Let's face it, hardly anyone gets the therapy they need. People do the best they can and muddle along, unhappy and triggered and isolated. Please vote for universal healthcare. Please.

  • @monicag3943
    @monicag3943 ปีที่แล้ว +98

    The fact that the little boy who escaped to the neighbor’s feels that the punishments he receives are his fault is absolutely heartbreaking. The children’s physical wounds will eventually heal, but the emotional and mental wounds won’t ever go away. 😢

  • @msannthrope1863
    @msannthrope1863 ปีที่แล้ว +874

    If you can’t outsmart a toddler and have to resort to violence, you’ve got serious problems.

    • @jenniferfriesen7691
      @jenniferfriesen7691 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      The one and only time I tried to spank a child (because I was young and was told to) I just couldn’t. His little face pleading not to be spanked - I sent him out of the room (did not hit him) and threw up.
      We talked about what happened, I apologized, we discussed why he couldn’t play with my things (something valuable and precious to me was broken). That whole situation haunts me 30+ years later.

    • @ashleynoelle999
      @ashleynoelle999 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      you’re an amazing person

    • @atasukecetin90
      @atasukecetin90 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@jenniferfriesen7691you did absolutely the right thing. Never think otherwise

    • @maryjackson1194
      @maryjackson1194 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@jenniferfriesen7691 Without intending to, you gave him the gift of showing that you could be wrong, you could turn away from doing the wrong thing, and you could apologize. What an incredible lesson -- for both of you! ❤

    • @ionevenknou-_-5815
      @ionevenknou-_-5815 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @jenniferfriesen7691 Oh, I've spanked my children a handful of times and never felt bad about it. There's a line, and actions have consequences. Just my opinion, if you spanked your child out of anger, learn from it and let it go .

  • @cleanasdirt6832
    @cleanasdirt6832 ปีที่แล้ว +219

    What’s even sadder, she will be treated better in prison, than what her kids were treated in their family home.

    • @F35Nerd
      @F35Nerd ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Yup. Given three meals a day, a bed to sleep in, entertainment whenever the guards turn on the TV, and flipping license plates for money to buy stuff at the prison store. And if any of those things are taken away it's a violation of her rights.

    • @knewsome47
      @knewsome47 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      General population will teach her a few lessons. Her friend Jodi has brainwashed her in a different direction but she was already crazy.

    • @missveronica8393
      @missveronica8393 ปีที่แล้ว

      I've heard that in the US prison system female child abusers aren't well treated by inmates who know what they are in for, apparently in other places they might be put in a separate section with other abusers etc and don't face the same potential dangers as they could in an American prison. Jodie sounds like the kind of evil manipulator who should be kept gagged because everything they say is just so damn dangerous and evil. The exact thing that she has been doing to other people, literally duct taping their mouths closed, that's what she needs to have done to her now.

    • @tammylaronde8593
      @tammylaronde8593 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      She may not escape prison justice.

    • @hakeemyo
      @hakeemyo ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tammylaronde8593depends how she portrays why she’s in there, no?

  • @KathBorup
    @KathBorup ปีที่แล้ว +448

    The fact that this woman had a huge following/platform is terrifying because It normalises this type of horrendous behaviour. Also why aren't there laws that protect childrens privacy?! They have a right to a childhood without having a camera constantly shoved in their face 😢

    • @dwarfchron801
      @dwarfchron801 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Seriously. Theres another video of hers not shown in this where she's talking to her youngest son and you can see in his eyes hes thinking "Can't you just talk to me without always shoving your camera in my face?" Its so sad.

    • @wdxawwacawc6910
      @wdxawwacawc6910 ปีที่แล้ว

      A large amount of her following was actively contacting police and cps frying to get her away from the children. If you look into it a bit more it's truly insane how long this was going on and how little authorities did

    • @BlasianBobbi215
      @BlasianBobbi215 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      TH-camr J Aubrey did a video on this woman FOUR YEARS AGO, sounding the alarm. You should give it a watch, because he used footage from the 8 Passengers channel to create his documentary. Two things J Aubrey touched on. The first was he showed footage of this sorry excuse of a mother saying her young daughter “forgot to pack her lunch”, this girl was probably 6 at the time? And when the school called saying hey, she doesn’t have lunch today, you wanna bring her something? This chic told them no! She went on this long winded rant basically saying starving during the day will make her “learn” to pack her own lunch (what kind of disaster will that lunch box look like if you let a small child pack their own lunch? Even I know this, and I don’t have children myself). The second incident, I believe with that same child, she did her homework, but left it on the table, she got distracted and didn’t put it in her book bag. What did “mom” do this time? She threw it in the trash. Like, she held up the clear trash bag with this poor child’s homework clearly visible at the bottom, and her daughter was screaming NO, that’s my homework!

    • @StarxLolita
      @StarxLolita ปีที่แล้ว +14

      IL recently passed a law saying the parents have to set aside a portion of the child's earnings if they're in videos a certain amount of hours, similar to laws regarding child actors. I think the fact politicians are acknowledging it and that's all they come up with makes me even angrier. Child acting is something of a necessity unless you want a 30yo playing a toddler. There is no need for child content creators. It needs to be illegal to film your child this often.

    • @sasori2425
      @sasori2425 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      A bunch of TH-camrs even before this sounded thr alarm on this, they called it out multiple times but folks who didn't watch their content just assumed it was tough love or standard discipline and the internet folks was making a big stink as per the usual for the unaware.

  • @SsunSsetSsurfer
    @SsunSsetSsurfer ปีที่แล้ว +35

    This guy is so brutally honest, it's refreshing!

  • @obercrazychicken
    @obercrazychicken ปีที่แล้ว +180

    My father broke the cycle and I'll be forever grateful that he did. He says that, still to this day 30+ years later, he struggles with his impulses of anger.

    • @Annie_Annie__
      @Annie_Annie__ ปีที่แล้ว +36

      My dad is the same. He was severely abused as a child.
      I was talking to him once about punishments and told him that the worst punishment he gave us as kids was “go to your room and think about an appropriate punishment, then when I call for you, come tell me.”
      I _agonized_ over that. He was surprised. He said that the only reason he did that was because he was so angry that he was afraid he’d hit us, so he wanted us out of sight until he calmed down and could think rationally.
      Because he wanted to break the cycle.
      Now, as a result, my kid is a teen and I’ve never been so angry at him that I’ve wanted to hit him.
      He’s made me mad, but never that mad.
      I really think a lot of that is because I don’t have the explosive anger issues my dad struggles with because he didn’t hit us.

    • @sideways5153
      @sideways5153 ปีที่แล้ว +21

      I live in fear of how I would act if I ever got intoxicated because the abusive behaviors I learned are to this day the first instinct I have when I get upset.
      I don’t want to hurt anybody, but there’s a part of me that would do it without a second thought. Don’t hit kids. Don’t humiliate them. Don’t convince them that nobody else will love them if they don’t act the way you want. When you do that you’re showing your kids a hammer, and to a kid without any other tools they’ll be seeing lots of things as nails.

    • @diane4488
      @diane4488 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@Annie_Annie__
      I'm sure you are spot on.

    • @DrOrr
      @DrOrr ปีที่แล้ว

      My dad was abused xually and was neglected he had to fend for himself, he broke the cycle by showing me a ton of love and care, unfortunately I feel he also has a bit of a victim complex.

    • @DrOrr
      @DrOrr ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Jack-ld7ku he isn’t a sex offender wdym

  • @LlamaLlamaMamaJamaac
    @LlamaLlamaMamaJamaac ปีที่แล้ว +362

    The 911 call is absolutely devastating to listen to… you can hear that man struggling to keep it together. And apparently the child chose that neighbor to run to because they had given his family Christmas cookies in the past - so thought they would be kind and helpful. 😭😭😭

    • @katie29baj
      @katie29baj ปีที่แล้ว +27

      When I first heard it and that poor caller's voice kept cracking, like he was trying so hard to keep it together in front of the boy, my heart just broke for him 😰

    • @11terie
      @11terie 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Nope, not gonna listen to anything other than Bruce - n fast forwarded through the charges after hearing part of them.... unbelievable cruelty to any child, MUCH LESS ONE's OWN KIDS!!!!! 🤬🤬🤬

    • @patriciagazey4693
      @patriciagazey4693 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Wow

    • @RendaJane
      @RendaJane 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      The favor Russell asked for was to be taken to jail. He didn’t even ask for food and water. The neighbors found that to be obvious and fed him. But the kid was told he would end up in jail and believed he deserved it. 😢

  • @minvalara2765
    @minvalara2765 ปีที่แล้ว +253

    My great grandmother, born in 1863, passed her wisdom down through the generations. She said 'if you beat children, you knock one devil out and a dozen in'. I followed her advice and can say hand on heart, I had no trouble from my kids even throughout their teenage years and we are still great friends now that they are in their 40's and 50's.

    • @lebomakhubedu6376
      @lebomakhubedu6376 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Real talk🙏

    • @pipermccool
      @pipermccool ปีที่แล้ว +5

      “Friends,” I like it! 🙂

    • @ericrivera8410
      @ericrivera8410 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I know from my own experience with physical abuse from my parents is that beating a kid will e only teach them how to lie to avoid future beatings

    • @AllegedlyMaybe
      @AllegedlyMaybe ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What a great great gma u had I love this

    • @bettercheddar
      @bettercheddar 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wise woman!

  • @michaelvout7813
    @michaelvout7813 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    "Duct tape is not a parenting tool." ......You nailed it. Thank you for calling out these dreadful people. A scary thing is that the mother looks like an 'everyday' 'pretty American mom'.

    • @dennyspereira8603
      @dennyspereira8603 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yte racist devil ladies you mean

  • @dlhunt3905
    @dlhunt3905 ปีที่แล้ว +369

    As a fellow attorney who has prosecuted countless felony child-abuse cases, some of which involved the child’s death, I think you hit this one out of the park. To my mind, your best to date.

    • @ellendickey4769
      @ellendickey4769 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      We need to do MUCH better by our children. Every day there are atrocities reported toward them. Breaks my heart.

    • @hsabes400
      @hsabes400 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      What kind of sentence could she be facing if convicted?

    • @BabelTruth
      @BabelTruth ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@hsabes400
      Well hopefully life in a federal super max for child abuse. I’d bet it’s so much worse than what they think.

    • @mckenna8663
      @mckenna8663 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      ​@hsabes400 I don't know the law so I really can't tell you the details. But I understand that there are six counts, and each one can carry 15 years

    • @bookbwitched6823
      @bookbwitched6823 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ​@@hsabes400nothing compared to the pain, humiliation & fear she gave to her children who now confuse love with pain.

  • @dr.warnemuende7909
    @dr.warnemuende7909 ปีที่แล้ว +243

    "Duct tape is not a parenting tool." More sound advice from Bruce Rivers! Thank you, Mr. Rivers! This is why we love you so much!

    • @JaneHasGame
      @JaneHasGame ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think it's printed right on the packaging.

    • @mcnamaraky
      @mcnamaraky ปีที่แล้ว +4

      My dad once joked with a teacher that she should duct tape me to the chair if I was causing too much of a problem in class (apparently I was reading *too* much).
      He never got invited to another parent teacher conference...
      It was completely sarcastic: my parents never abused me, but the teacher didn't really get that at first lol... it's quite funny in hindsight.
      If my dad said that today, I might've been taken out of my home.

    • @delilah5366
      @delilah5366 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JaneHasGame 😆😆😆

    • @EXITLlFE
      @EXITLlFE ปีที่แล้ว

      *casually sets duct tape back down*
      "Ehh what?.."

    • @Jimothy-723
      @Jimothy-723 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      its hilarious and disgusting that this actualy has to be said to adults.

  • @KiaOra-wu7gb
    @KiaOra-wu7gb ปีที่แล้ว +237

    “Love should never ever been withheld as a punishment”. So well said, “love for your child should be unconditional”.

    • @TeddyBear-ii4yc
      @TeddyBear-ii4yc ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I thought you either love someone or you don't and it's not something you can turn on or off like a tap.
      That said, if you repeatedly whack the souls of their feet you can get kids to say anything! 🙂

    • @sacredcoaching5107
      @sacredcoaching5107 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      When my kids were little , I’d take something away, and one rule is I never ever punished while angry!!! EVER. Did I get angry ? Yes! But wouldn’t while angry. This woman is FD UP!! And records it?

    • @debbrown9365
      @debbrown9365 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bruce you are a real man. Nuff said

    • @justlooking4771
      @justlooking4771 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ❤❤❤

    • @RendaJane
      @RendaJane 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      After everything she did, her parental rights apparently have not been terminated. And she could be out soon.

  • @matthewpohl6272
    @matthewpohl6272 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I cant believe her son asked for food and she straight up told him he didn't need it... that broke my heart.

  • @mikek3658
    @mikek3658 ปีที่แล้ว +905

    "Long patterns of selfishness"
    Says the woman who isolates, manipulates, and exploits her children on TH-cam for money. "You don't need food."
    What a psycho. I know people who will have to pay a lot of money for the privilege of being a parent. It breaks my heart to see kids treated like this 😔

    • @F35Nerd
      @F35Nerd ปีที่แล้ว +29

      She's definetly projecting her own behavior on her kid

    • @esteemedmortal5917
      @esteemedmortal5917 ปีที่แล้ว +67

      Also, kids are selfish when they’re very young. It’s developmentally appropriate. There are appropriate ways to guide them into the next stage of development.

    • @Sputterbug
      @Sputterbug ปีที่แล้ว +11

      they probably asked for 2nds or something

    • @lareeseblaque8303
      @lareeseblaque8303 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Right. I would like to know the outcome of this too.

    • @you2uber530
      @you2uber530 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      how can those kids not be selfish? 1st of all they are kids. they need to be taught not to be selfish. 2nd of all their supposed role model mom is a selfish piece of crap. what does she expects. pubishment should be harsher not only to parents abusing their kids but also to police and social workers who get reported abiut child abuse and dont follow through with proper investigation. as an atheist the scarce times i wish hell was a real place is when sht like that happens.

  • @sammyi2505
    @sammyi2505 ปีที่แล้ว +206

    "Views the kids as adversaries" is the best description I have heard about Ruby so far. The ways that she talks about how she deprives her kids of privacy and her whole BS philosophy on "Choices" really highlights how she views her children as conspiring against her. When they disobey the rules, she sees it as an attack on HER to cause HER inconvenience, and not just kids being kids. She should have never had children.

    • @Julia-zv8tv
      @Julia-zv8tv ปีที่แล้ว +32

      I think that in another world where Ruby wasn't Mormon and grew up and lived in a secular environment, she would've been childfree, because it's really clear that she doesn't like children at all. And I think that would've been a better world. People who don't like kids and can't find joy in the idea of having children shouldn't have children.

    • @sammyi2505
      @sammyi2505 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Julia-zv8tv Honestly, I agree. The social pressure applied by the LDS church to have big families is something that I've always found worrisome... Not everybody is built for kids.
      I also wouldn't be surprised if there's some kind of family trauma or psychological abnormality to explain her extremely short temper. In a podcast, Ruby admitted that the main reason she started the channel was to make *herself* behave in front of the camera. Even her own mother told her that she used to shout a lot at her kids before then. Somebody in her family should have pushed her to get help a whole lot sooner. Family vlogging as emotional repression has got to be the worst idea I've ever heard.

    • @jenniferhyde5389
      @jenniferhyde5389 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Mormons again.Laurie Vallow did the worst in that faith and here we have another crazed fool.😮

    • @gergelyvarju6679
      @gergelyvarju6679 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Julia-zv8tvShe loved the extra attention she got as a mother on social media. Her next TH-cam channel will be about surviving her prison sentence and all the unofficial punishment she will get there from her fellow inmates. But someone addicted to attention and some pseudo celebrity status can be very entitled and can see anything and everything as an attack on her status and addiction. Maybe they would even sell the rights to make a movie about it...

    • @serenity6415
      @serenity6415 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Again, my narcissism alarm is going off big-time

  • @lexylawrence5768
    @lexylawrence5768 ปีที่แล้ว +600

    I'm currently 9 months pregnant with my first child (it's a boy 🖤), and I've suffered with anger issues my whole life due to a very abusive childhood. From the moment I found out I'm pregnant up to this very day I'm in therapy. It's not comfortable, it's not easy but our kids deserve it. Being abusive becomes a choice when you choose to do nothing about your own toxicity.

    • @suzyyoohoo2514
      @suzyyoohoo2514 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      The way I look at it is .. I treat my kids how I wanted to be treated growing up. Yes things will get frustrated but you will have knowledge to make good decisions. We are never perfect as a parent. Enjoy your boy. They are the best. Mom of 2.

    • @veronicababy7959
      @veronicababy7959 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      I was in the same place as you. Now my daughter has a child and my heart glows to see her as a loving, kind, and understanding parent. I didn’t do everything right but I did enough right. Blessings to you and your baby boy!

    • @kierstenhale763
      @kierstenhale763 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      I don’t know you, but I’m so proud of you for recognizing that something is wrong and taking steps to be better for your son ❤️

    • @DaryleBrown
      @DaryleBrown ปีที่แล้ว +26

      Hey, awesome that you have the insight to realize this and the drive to carry out a plan of action to address it before you're hip deep in parenting! I wish you nothing but success on your journey to become the parent you want to be - so many don't realize it's not enough to clock your family as toxic, you actually have to learn healthy behaviors to utilize in order to avoid unconsciously implementing the unhealthy ones you learned as a kid. Like growing up in a household that only had one tool - a hammer. You know there is a better way to fix a broken vase than the hammer, but until you take a class on pottery repair you're just going to reach for the hammer anyway because it's what you know.

    • @hmac163
      @hmac163 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Hey-congrats on the new baby! Secondly, look up something called Emotionally Focused Family Therapy (something like that) and also try to master techniques in Dialectical Behaviour Therapy. I grew up in abuse and neglect, and these parenting approaches are helpful with my kids. A book-“How to Talk So Kids Will Listen and Listen So Kids Will Talk”. These three things have made me the opposite of my childhood. I personally still have rage issues and PTSD, but my kids are not experiencing it. Good for you with therapy. Get LOTS of sleep. Do not neglect yourself it makes it harder to parent effectively. ❤

  • @vzburns1
    @vzburns1 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Michael Rivers, I hope you realize just how lucky you are to have the father you have. Every time he mentions you his pride in you and his love for you just shines. When he talks about being a dad and his feelings for you reflects how I feel about my kids. When a child grows up and becomes friends with their parent it shows that the parent did something right. ❤ my kids are now adults and they fight over who gets me not who has to take me lol. I tell people that I'm lucky that we genuinely LIKE each other and enjoy spending time with together now THAT is a gift. ❤❤

  • @YayWei320
    @YayWei320 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    “What if you’re addicted to child abuse? Do they have a program for that?” Yes, it’s called prison.
    As someone who also got beaten as a child, I agree, all it does is alienate. I was so scared of my parents growing up I never even told my mom when I got my period. I never told them when I wasn’t feeling well, luckily I was pretty healthy and only had to miss school for illness once in high school, and for some reason it was humiliating for me to tell my parents I didn’t feel well. I couldn’t ask them for basic needs. I was a burden to them and I internalized that to my core from a young age. Even though my relationship with my dad has been repaired and is now better than ever, I still can’t admit to him when I’m not doing great mentally/physically, and it’s hard for me to ask for help.
    Ruby Franke has done unbelievable damage to those poor kids, and she better sit in jail for a long time for it.

    • @alican5695
      @alican5695 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I’m so sorry you went through that and am so glad you’re here today. ❤ You didn’t deserve any of that.

    • @bookbwitched6823
      @bookbwitched6823 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I'm so sorry you went thru that horrific experience. If you hear those old abusive lines in your head, if you feel unworthy, my heart is full for you & I hope you can get help to unlock the child still imprisoned by pain & fear.
      You are a profound gift. You shared your pain here in an elegant & classy way. You have a gift. I hope you have gotten help to deal with that horror & I urge you to consider writing your story or sharing with parent groups.
      If this is a bit bumpy, I hear the tapes even though I wasn't beaten. Disregard & disapproval hurt & visit long into adulthood. Let alone when you've been beaten so badly there is a shut down of all joy.
      Sister-Friend, you are worthy of appreciation & approval, of love without pain.
      My blessings for your safety, your healing, your discovery of the joy you are & the joy you bring.

  • @bloodyneptune
    @bloodyneptune ปีที่แล้ว +409

    What's scary is that shes one of _many_ family vloggers that have been called out for years, and now we find out exactly _how_ horrific things were. How many other channels that people call out (or fly under the radar) is just as bad?

    • @Lancaster22
      @Lancaster22 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Almost like they all have a horrible pattern of narcissism

    • @AmyB369
      @AmyB369 ปีที่แล้ว

      @youtube allows it because they profit off of the exploitation of minors I hope these kids start suing the shit out of TH-cam

    • @grayaj23
      @grayaj23 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      I would imagine that the space is competitive, and a lot of youtube markets thrive on angst and conflict. So it would be no surprise to me to find that people like this would manipulate their kids into misbehaving just so they could have content for another week. Not saying that's what's going on here, just that I wouldn't be surprised.

    • @EliF-ge5bu
      @EliF-ge5bu ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Being “called out” is not the same as being reported. And people continue to consume their content on social media. Those 2 million follower were complicit in this abuse.

    • @donnahughes8409
      @donnahughes8409 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@EliF-ge5bu absolutely true. You would thought that somebody that was following her would realize that there was something wrong with this woman. I’ve never seen her videos before and what little that Bruce showed I can definitely tell in her contents that there’s something wrong with her.

  • @santiagoaavalos5876
    @santiagoaavalos5876 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    Hearing you speak about the abuse that you went through with your dad and then seeing how well you treat your son is such a powerful revelation. You really broke the cycle of abuse, and it is so beautiful to witness. Gives me hope for the future. You are an incredible man.

  • @MeredithCarmona
    @MeredithCarmona ปีที่แล้ว +35

    This case is extremely heartbreaking. The food denial really got to me. I cant imagine treating my 8 year old the way that these children were treated.

    • @AndrewTheVikings
      @AndrewTheVikings 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I just got a word that she pleaded guilty four counts of aggravated child abuse. She later pleaded not guilty to two other counts. Franke is due to be sentenced on February 20, 2024.

  • @minniemercury4818
    @minniemercury4818 ปีที่แล้ว +285

    As an adult victim of child abuse, this story really hits home. My mom was mentally ill and we were her victims until we could get away. Michael you are a very lucky person to have Bruce as your dad. ❤ Thank you both for being here!

    • @cathydocimo9224
      @cathydocimo9224 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      He is very fortunate to have Bruce as a father. Please enjoy your life!!

    • @denise26100
      @denise26100 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same here, my mom made us go through hell. My dad was an amazing person and never laid a finger on us but unfortunately he was alcoholic because she abused him too and he died from it when I was just 14. Miss you Dad forever. I love watching Bruce because he gives off such wholesome dad energy. ❤

    • @minniemercury4818
      @minniemercury4818 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @soraya2218 sorry for your loss. Hugs.

    • @denise26100
      @denise26100 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@minniemercury4818 thanks a lot, bless you. I hope you could or can heal from your trauma too. It's a battle every day.

    • @denise26100
      @denise26100 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@minniemercury4818 you're gorgeous btw 💖

  • @SurplusMarket
    @SurplusMarket ปีที่แล้ว +139

    Bruce, you are not just an amazing lawyer, but an amazing person. Thank you for being such an inspiring and kind person.

    • @TerryManlove1
      @TerryManlove1 ปีที่แล้ว

      Amen

    • @vmno6300
      @vmno6300 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I grew up with violently abusive parents, I was constantly compared to other children that I was the worst of them all. I was just a small child, terrified of my every day. Whenever I hear Bruce talk so kindly about his son and his deep love he has for him,I feel a little bit of warmth inside, like i sometimes want to pretend he’s talking about me as his own. Goddamit bruce I’ve had a rough day and this made me tear up writing this. I am 37 now and i choose to never speak to them again.

  • @salis-salis
    @salis-salis ปีที่แล้ว +86

    Thank you for your words on corporal punishment regarding children. It's is still legal to beat your kids almost all around the world, which is a shame.
    Corporal punishment for those who hurt kids, not for the kids...

    • @amandatyler4324
      @amandatyler4324 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      My mom thinks kids who run out into the street should be spanked. Well if a kid doesn’t have enough self control to stay out of the street, shouldn’t it be the PARENT who should be spanked for letting their kid run out in the street?!

    • @junglekimmy3611
      @junglekimmy3611 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Im so happy to live in a country where It's illegal to beat kids. Me and many more.with me believe that spanking and all other stuff is outdated. America should get in to the 21 century. 🙂

    • @penispensar9071
      @penispensar9071 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@amandatyler4324I mean, sometimes your kid, for whatever reason, is a runner due to no fault of the parent. Sometimes kids are really stupid. I don’t think you should jump straight to spanking, but if your kid keeps trying to kamikaze themselves in traffic and no amount of talking is getting through to them, sometimes a shock (light spanking after the try running in front of a semi) might be enough to make their little monkey brains recognise danger without having a hospital trip, or god forbid, a funeral.
      I’m anti-spanking 99% of the time, but with young kids especially, they just don’t have the reasoning capacity to “talk it out”. Spanking a kid because they broke a vase? Hell no. Slapping your toddlers hands away because they try to give themselves third degree burns on a stove? That’s just common sense.

    • @penispensar9071
      @penispensar9071 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I once got out of the house somehow when I was a toddler, and when my mom ran out to find me in a panic I felt bad and never did it again. Hitting me at that point wouldve just confused me.
      But for some reason I was damned determined to pick up every lit candle around me no matter how many times I was told no. Only thing that stopped me was when I picked up one too heavy and poured scalding wax all over myself- definitely would have preferred the spanking 😬

    • @MrJamiez
      @MrJamiez ปีที่แล้ว

      Only 2 dollars. Bro broke

  • @linlouwho123
    @linlouwho123 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    This woman was so scary. The stuff she said on TH-cam is horrific. So many people reported her and the state did nothing.The neighbor cried when he called the police. The neighbor cared for that child than his parents.

  • @Prettypeachylife
    @Prettypeachylife ปีที่แล้ว +70

    This is so upsetting. I have worked in a school and have seen so many children whose parents withhold food as punishment. Most end up being food obsessed. Hoarding food because they have no idea when they will eat again. They steal. It’s horrific what some parents do to their babies.

  • @trudykennedy2380
    @trudykennedy2380 ปีที่แล้ว +165

    I have a thousand issues with these two “alleged” child abusers, but I also have a serious issue with their apparent 2 million followers/fans. How could any thinking, caring, logical person choose to watch and follow any of what Ruby espouses? Methinks plenty of their fans abuse their own kids and feel entitled to do so. As an adult still healing from child abuse, my heart breaks for the Franke kids and all abused children.

    • @DeeJaysWord
      @DeeJaysWord ปีที่แล้ว +4

      It's because its rage bait, mostly.

    • @jimreilly917
      @jimreilly917 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      I hope you find healing, peace and happiness.

    • @B_Bodziak
      @B_Bodziak ปีที่แล้ว +23

      According to the reports, there were a fair number of viewers that reported them but nothing was done.

    • @karinaz8756
      @karinaz8756 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Her followers are a huge reason why she was finally caught.

    • @gabimarie4297
      @gabimarie4297 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      They got famous when they were still relatively normal. Then people started noticing little things years ago. Forcing a 5 year old to maker her own lunch an did she forgets it then she doesn’t eat, taking her oldest sons room away for 7 months, showing her daughter on camera while talking about her period for all her followers. People started having issues and reporting them. Nothing was done. 2 years ago they stopped posting anything on the family channel. Then a little while later ruby pops up again on a Facebook group called connections. They said crazy shit, still no one knew she was physically abusing her kids. Then she starts a connections channel with Jodie, they have way less than 2 million followers than the family channel and MOST people hated this. More people reported. Nothing done. Kids got older, she had 2-3 out of the house, they’ve tried reporting them nothing happens. Then it came to this and it was a shock to everyone that it was going this far. They hadn’t seen the kids in 2 years. And I’ve never been a fan

  • @jebsmith323
    @jebsmith323 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    I just love you, Bruce. You are such a solid person. We can tell you were and still are a great dad. Thank you for being an example to young men.

  • @RealBlazeheart
    @RealBlazeheart ปีที่แล้ว +80

    As a kid(Still a kid but won’t be next month) I dealt with CPS and the only reason I got out was because my therapist told them to take me and my siblings. Then they finally put me in foster care. It took literal years. I didn’t even experience abuse to THIS extent. I’m glad this is reaching people because awareness needs to be spread about it. Thank you for covering this.

    • @Crowfist
      @Crowfist ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Hate to tell ya but i turn 30 in a month and i gotta say you got about 5 or 10 more years of bein a kid :)

    • @molls0922
      @molls0922 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Sounds like you had to grow up too fast due to circumstances and that you’re a really good sibling. Be gentle with yourself, brave sweet soul. Your mind isn’t fully developed until about 25 so technically you may not be a kid as of soon, but it’s ok to not be full grown adult.❤

    • @yourconnection9303
      @yourconnection9303 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Be the best you can possibly be now. You've got your whole life ahead of you. Make it a fantastic one. Fulfill your dreams. As for your parents, don't be bitter, be better - than them! Sending you healing, strength and great vibes...

    • @PaulKulha
      @PaulKulha ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@CrowfistI turn 33 in a month and I was a man at 22, maybe we’ve lived different lives, everyone has different experiences

    • @RealBlazeheart
      @RealBlazeheart ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Crowfist thank you!

  • @Every_Day_islike_Sunday
    @Every_Day_islike_Sunday ปีที่แล้ว +282

    My mom was physically abused as a kid. She never hit us but the emotional abuse was severe. But the thought of a kid being denied food and water and tied with tape - holy crap. I just can't... It's sad and infuriating. What kind of freak does that? Thought goes into it, it's not a slap out of frustration and it's not a derogatory put-down out of frustration. It's premeditated. Sickening.
    Edit - oh she did the emotional abuse as well i see. Freak.

    • @Oliviaandtrina
      @Oliviaandtrina ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Good on your mom for at least trying to break the cycle. I'm sure for you it was still awful, and traumatizing. There was at least an effect there. Ruby clearly revels in abusing the kids. Like there's such clear vitriol she holds towards her kids. To me this is so far beyond abuse, it's quite literally torture.

    • @Every_Day_islike_Sunday
      @Every_Day_islike_Sunday ปีที่แล้ว +17

      @@Oliviaandtrina i have forgiven my mom exactly because she did break the cycle of physical abuse, which was pretty bad in my grandparents' world.
      Thank you!😍
      Ruby is a psycho. You are right, she seems to revel in it. Here's what gets me - can you imagine plotting to tie up your kid while you're at Home Depot buying duct tape? *shivers*

    • @jaisyw7569
      @jaisyw7569 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Exactly the same with my mom, she spanked us and yelled sometimes but she came from so much worse that I can’t help but be thankful that she tried her best to always let me know I was loved and teach right from wrong. I was always fed well, maintained well, and told I was important. Easy to forgive the few mistakes when she was so clearly full of love for us

    • @The_1ntern3t
      @The_1ntern3t ปีที่แล้ว +11

      ​@@Every_Day_islike_SundayYeah, that's one of the main reasons I'm not going to have children by choice. It hurts me, but the endless cycle of abuse must be broken and I'm not 100% sure I can do it. I got beaten up a bit but that's meh. What was much more scarring is being gaslighted. As a child it sucked so much. Who'd believe a ten year old when half the village says "naaaah. That's not possible. X wouldn't do that. And even if, you probably deserved it."

    • @LeTrashPanda
      @LeTrashPanda ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I had the opposite, would sit there for hours with a plate of cold dinner....I have food allergies, that's why I couldn't eat.

  • @Hatemode_NJ
    @Hatemode_NJ ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Bruce there are so many things you said in this video that couldn't be more true. My parents divorced when I was two. My mom won custody. She was extremely abusive to my sister and I. She would starve us, lock us out of the house, hit us, was incredibly mean, never once apologized, and everything we did was our fault. It was horrible walking on eggshells all day afraid you'd do something wrong and have it explode. She could also hide it from outsiders so well that only my close friends knew the truth. It wears you down like you can't believe, but it also becomes normal. We had DYFS in the house. Cops all the time. I finally moved in with my dad when I turned 18 (my sister moved in with him at 13). It was like my whole world changed. My dad is the most caring, thoughtful, loving, and best person in the world and I couldn't be luckier having him in my life. I love him so much. He always has my back no matter what. I can't describe how wonderful it felt to move out of there... it was like the weight of the world came off my shoulders and I didn't realize that life could be so calm and I was finally able to just be happy. To this day I still say I'm sorry too much because it has been so ingrained in me and I still have trouble with relationships because of how bad I was treated. What you said about disappointing a caring parent couldn't be more true. It is x1000 times more of a deterrent than one that treats you horribly and punishes you endlessly. Like you said, it just pushes you further apart, causes you not to care, you do things just to piss them off, and like you also said.. to this very day my mom and I barely have a relationship. It breaks my heart, but it's the way it is. I wish things were different, I have a hard time not blaming myself for how things turned out even though it wasn't my fault and I was just a child. Anyway I didn't mean to rant, this video though hit me in a spot that I haven't thought about in a while. I hope people listen to your advice because kids do remember when they grow up and they don't always forgive.

    • @willissudweeks1050
      @willissudweeks1050 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      This made me sad. My daughter lives with her mom who is really just an awful person. I struggled in my early after having her at 17 and I lost custody. Now we love each other so much but she won’t move in with me because she has friends where she is and I just hate it. I wish my daughter would move in with me and make new friends here.

    • @jayltee
      @jayltee ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@willissudweeks1050My mum was terrible, my dad wonderful but he feels guilt for not preventing our pain. I’ve told him so many times, if it wasn’t for him, my life would have been impossible. Keep loving her unconditionally and be there when she needs you. It makes all the difference. You sound like a loving dad.

    • @Hatemode_NJ
      @Hatemode_NJ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@willissudweeks1050 that's actually why I didn't move in with my dad sooner. I would of had to change schools etc. So I just put up with it. My dad has apologized to me as well because he had the same guilt, but I would never ever hold it against him. Also he tried to get custody, but the courts in the 80s heavily favored the mom's. I still saw him on weekends. We used to watch the Simpsons and married with children every Sunday night. It was the best time and the worst time because once the show was over it was time to go back there.

    • @flowerjpotter1629
      @flowerjpotter1629 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Abusive parents often have convenient memory lapses when their children become adults and want to talk about what happened.
      I wonder if all the gaslighting brings on a kind of dementia in some people because their conscience is secretly haunting them.

    • @Hatemode_NJ
      @Hatemode_NJ ปีที่แล้ว

      @@willissudweeks1050 I'd also like to add. Even though I lived with my mom I never once doubted my dad's love for me. He's the most important person in my life, always will be, and there is absolutely nothing in this world I would trade him for. He was always there for me when I needed him and will always be. No matter what happens good or bad. I can't even put into words how much he means to me. I'm sure your daughter feels the same and as she grows older will appreciate it even more. One thing I promise you is, she will never forget who truly loves/cares her and who was and is there for her, no matter the circumstances. That's the most important part. Even when she completely messes up, be there for her.

  • @stevitaylor4755
    @stevitaylor4755 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Bruce, I absolutely love the love you have for your children. Happy you're back home! Thanks guys for the amazing content.💞🤍

  • @originalsixx
    @originalsixx ปีที่แล้ว +79

    That woman is completely nuts. She's now saying her son was SA a younger sibling, I'm guessing she's saying this to explain her use of the duct tape etc. She's disgusting 🤢 I hope she gets major jailtime

    • @blackdandelion5549
      @blackdandelion5549 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yep, because bringing the child to a counselor ASAP and reporting this would have been the "wrong thing to do". . . .somehow. She also neglected to mention that previously, ever, but other kids have gotten similar punishments.

    • @bookbwitched6823
      @bookbwitched6823 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Even if the child was SA to siblings, he sure as hell didn't deserve being starved, beaten, restrained & humiliated. That child if it really happened will become the monster his mother made him into. This woman will never have the crimes done to her that she perpetrated on her children. Too bad.

    • @MeTreesndirt
      @MeTreesndirt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Eligible for parole in 3 crummy yr.s.

  • @RhinehartGirls
    @RhinehartGirls ปีที่แล้ว +177

    What these "parents" convinced their "followers" to believe is good parenting is really terrifying.

    • @blackdandelion5549
      @blackdandelion5549 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Many of the followers didn't believe that Franke was a good parent and had started a petition on one of those websites to have her videos be looked at by the county DA/prosecutor as her own watchers had called CPS on her and CPS was soo incredibly lazy on this case that there were times they went to the home, knocked, no one answered so they left a "please call me when you can card" and never followed up on it and never heard back from the household. CPS was called by neighbors, by followers, She was called out online on her videos like you wouldn't believe by other parents, the school had to document when her 6 yr old did not have a lunch so they called the mother and the mother went the frick off, first at the teacher for asking her to bring a lunch down, and then on camera saying how it's her 6 yr olds fault she doesn't have a lunch and when she asked her this morning if she had a lunch, she said Yes and should not have lied so now her punishment is being hungry. . . . . . . .the kid is 6!!!!! Yes, I tried to have my own kids pack snacks, but expecting perfection was not even close to realistic. It would not have killed her to leave a few bucks in the school lunch account for days like that and tell the teacher to have the kid get a hot lunch. We always had something in there bc "life happens".

    • @jenniferfriesen7691
      @jenniferfriesen7691 ปีที่แล้ว

      The number of enablers in this situation is astounding. That anyone “followed” this bitch is disgusting. Just the clips turned my stomach and it’s going to be rough yo forget those voices.

    • @911dips5
      @911dips5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      this lady on social media either used it to maker her kids feel worse, like 'See everybody that follows me thinks you kids are lil shits" or she made videos to right her wrong and called it discipline. Either way, she is gonna catch one in jail just like she deserves

  • @bel3133
    @bel3133 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    For any adults out there struggling with getting over an abusive parent, these were the stages I went through: (1) Realizing that, they don't like me. (2) Realizing that, they never liked me. There's no relationship to "go back to." (3) If I ever owed them anything--for feeding me, clothing me, giving me shelter and life--that I already paid them back the debt in full, because: [exhaustive list of abuses endured]. I needed to go through these mind changes, to get over the constant self-doubt, anger and guilt.

    • @joananthony6323
      @joananthony6323 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Yes and you have to realise that if you write the letter that you want to write all it will do is mean that you then have to deal with their denial. A total cut is the only answer.
      Its dealing with the enablers in my family that I found more difficult because it took me a lot longer to realise that I wasn't going to get through to them

    • @PrometheanRising
      @PrometheanRising ปีที่แล้ว +17

      You don't owe them anything. Bringing you into the world was a choice that they made, and that choice puts obligations on them, not you.

    • @mappickle2379
      @mappickle2379 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Same here.

    • @wasdwasd609
      @wasdwasd609 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      What are you talking about? "YoU MuSt LoVe YoUr FaMily uNcoNdiTioNalLy" zzzz. Like anyone who says that shit has no idea how bad some are.

    • @chesneymigl4538
      @chesneymigl4538 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The grief of realizing that I'll never have the parents my inner child needed was terrible. But it was so freeing afterward because I knew that there was nothing I did or didn't do to "fix" out relationship

  • @hj5520
    @hj5520 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Bruce I know you might never read this, but you did a wonderful thing for your children by breaking the cycle of abuse. Too many parents don’t examine their parents’ bad behavior and just repeat it with their children when they raise them because they don’t see how wrong it was when their parents did it to them.

  • @yarnpower
    @yarnpower ปีที่แล้ว +153

    It is especially disturbing that she looks gleeful at times telling them they won’t get food or Christmas presents, etc. She was on a power trip with her own kids as victims.

    • @trig1988x
      @trig1988x ปีที่แล้ว +3

      witches tend to do that

    • @phat-kid
      @phat-kid ปีที่แล้ว +6

      i think the creepy smile was because she was embarrassed. hate to think what she did after she stopped recording.

    • @joparkcat
      @joparkcat ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the kid can't have a cookie? is that it or am i missing something?

    • @claraw7976
      @claraw7976 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@joparkcat Yes, you're missing something. The kids were starved and malnourished..

    • @bobtaylor170
      @bobtaylor170 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@joparkcat, yes, you're missing that this woman is a psychopath.

  • @MrPotsy81
    @MrPotsy81 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Teacher here. Positive reinforcement works. There may be an occasion where they need a time out or have something taken away (NOT food). I have always practiced this in class and give and receive respect. Children are a gift. I loved teaching because the kids are beautiful.

  • @mellynnn
    @mellynnn ปีที่แล้ว +33

    The “you’re going to bed without dessert and we’re going out to get cookies” broke my heart for that child

    • @dalpz205
      @dalpz205 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The cooks in the prison kitchen are going to remember this...

  • @carladaquila8190
    @carladaquila8190 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have to tell you I was touched by your love for your children. Your two sons are very lucky to have a smart, loving father like you. Love your You tube channel.

  • @mermaid3363
    @mermaid3363 ปีที่แล้ว +241

    As a licensed mental health professional who works to counsel children, thank you for speaking out against corporal punishment. Hitting a child only models using physical violence to solve issues.

    • @justinlast2lastharder749
      @justinlast2lastharder749 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      There is a massive difference between spanking and abusing a child. You aren't trying to inflict damage spanking a child, you are trying to get their attention. If your intention is to cause pain and damage, that is when it becomes abuse.

    • @jodiforeman3314
      @jodiforeman3314 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      mommy dearest is not dead

    • @emilykelly5253
      @emilykelly5253 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      And kids are pretty smart, my son is 4 and so I flicked him back and he looked at me and said "you're not supposed to do things that hurt other people, my flicks don't hurt you."
      I had to apologize but he didn't give me time out.

    • @joannholmes8726
      @joannholmes8726 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      As an adult, my brother would say really loud, "STOP ABUSING THAT CHILD" when we were in the store shopping. Mom's would grab kids by their arms, lifting them by their fragile limbs, squeezing their hands hard and yell at them. His "pet peeve" I learned later about how much physical abuse he endured. I didn't see it, I was a baby when it happened. These people are just sadistic and sick. Thank you for your work @mermaid3363.

    • @firmfire2385
      @firmfire2385 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ​@@justinlast2lastharder749this. People really need to learn the difference. This no corporal punishment bullshit is what makes spoiled little shits that think their are no real consequences for their actions. Weird as hell that it's even being mixed. Spanking is not abusing and is a god given right to parents. It happens in all different ways throught nature.

  • @notbornagainbornright5046
    @notbornagainbornright5046 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    Kids get a bed, food, school and safty is required. You chose to have those children. Even after 18 they DON'T OWE YOU ANYTHING. YOU CHOSE TO HAVE CHILDREN

    • @jpfly66
      @jpfly66 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      She was something. There is a clip out there I saw where she actually was punishing them by destroying their homework. WTF. So many parents have trouble getting their kids to even do their home work and this monster was trying to take even their home work away.

    • @MeTreesndirt
      @MeTreesndirt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They do need to know they are expected to behave in a civilized way after age 6 or so and be respectful of their elders,if they are deserving

  • @carolcooke2624
    @carolcooke2624 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Thank you Bruce for stating never hit a child. Spare the rod spoil the child is bull$hit. How much counseling will these children need for years.

  • @KateCat420
    @KateCat420 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    SO glad you're on this Bruce! It's hard to find trustworthy coverage of this case 😢

  • @Kriistall7
    @Kriistall7 ปีที่แล้ว +110

    Just when I thought I couldn't like you any more, you don't excuse corporal punishment. THANK YOU. No child should be hit or hurt for any reason, ever

    • @howareyou857
      @howareyou857 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Bruce is a professonally successful individual most of all a decent person.

    • @PitifulDelay
      @PitifulDelay ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I absolutely disagree. There are absolutely valid reasons for children to be hit. Hitting and striking is a core part of our lifestyle. But we're all in taekwondo, so that is part and parcel. As a punishment? It definitely shouldn't happen.

    • @remigal899
      @remigal899 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@PitifulDelayyou sound insane

    • @PitifulDelay
      @PitifulDelay ปีที่แล้ว

      @@remigal899 I guess we have different definitions of insanity. Taekwondo is a discipline that teaches courtesy, integrity, self control, perseverance, and to never give up. It promotes confidence and self esteem. Doing it together as a family creates quality bonding time. It helps to keep us active and maintains our flexibility. And ... sparring is a part of it. That means punching, kicking, and blocking. And, sometimes, that means getting hurt.
      If that fits within your definition of insanity, then I will happily agree that I am insane.
      My answer was somewhat tongue in cheek. Krista997 made a blanket statement that there was no reason at all, under any circumstances for any child to be hit or hurt. I provided an example where children being hit is perfectly valid. As a parent dealing out punishment, the statement is true. Punishment is not about correcting the unwanted behavior, but about applying blame and shame, and is an ineffective parenting tool.

  • @lisae6725
    @lisae6725 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    Ruby actually seems to get off on being cruel to her children. To take away the two youngest kid’s’ Christmas presents while the others get to open theirs is especially evil. That poor boy talking about not getting food, no friends, no computer, etc. had black circles under his eyes and just sounded so defeated that I could just cry for him. I’m sick and tired of religious zealots abusing their kids through their fucked up interpretation of the Bible. The dark blue circles under the eyes can be a sign of anemia but it can also be allergies or sleep deprivation. The point is, he already looked sick in this video and also appeared to be depressed. You shouldn’t have to feel like you’re living in someone else’s house, it’s also your home when you’re stuck living there for 18 years you should feel like you have a safe and happy place to live. Unbelievable.

    • @HappyShackHomestead
      @HappyShackHomestead ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I noticed those dark circles as well. My heart goes out for these poor children.
      These two women are in for a rude awakening in prison.

    • @imaginekudryavka9485
      @imaginekudryavka9485 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Yeah. A child doesn’t ask to be born and they have no choice to live somewhere else, so saying “this is my house, everything here is mine” is just absurd. It would be different if they were over 18, at that point I would understand saying “while you live under my roof..” but for an actual child, that is their HOME and it should feel like such. They shouldn’t feel like they are constantly beholden to their mother and must act grateful. Again, they have no other choice. They should also feel loved and wanted. You brought them to this world, don’t act like they are such a burden and ungrateful little sh!ts just because they act like children. And she doesn’t even do the bare minimum of clothing, feeding and housing the children, AND making them feel safe and loved. So what exactly are they supposed to respect?

    • @lisae6725
      @lisae6725 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@imaginekudryavka9485 I agree! I can’t believe that the teacher didn’t find it most unusual that a 6 year old is supposed to pack their own lunch for school! I have 4 grandkids ages. 8,6,3,2 and there’s just no way even the 8 year old would be capable of remembering or even doing it properly. She didn’t work outside the home so one would think she could take the time to actually make lunches for her kids or let them eat the school lunch! Then she says she hopes no one else feeds her…that is just sick. Sometimes I feel like all I do is feed kids when I watch them because they are always wanting to eat so for her kids to go hungry is cruel and unusual punishment for such minor offenses to Ruby which looks like could be anything. Just awful.

    • @jeanieolahful
      @jeanieolahful ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I agree, she obviously views her children as adversaries. She’s a sadist who smiles like the Grinch when she gets ready to get them in trouble. I hope she and her partner in crime get life

  • @Mutter-Buffins
    @Mutter-Buffins ปีที่แล้ว +51

    Bruce really opened my eyes today. I respect how passionate you are about protecting children and what you’ve been through. Thank you for showing that side and I hope your words have affected parents who may have needed to hear it.

    • @reisch25
      @reisch25 ปีที่แล้ว

      He gets disappointed and disgusted with some of these videos but this is probably the only time I’ve seen him genuinely upset

  • @RideGreen_21
    @RideGreen_21 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    18:23 you can see him get emotional right here . Shows how much he loves his kids . Reminds me of my dad . My mom and step dad hit me all the time . My real dad never hit us . Eventually he raised us in his own . Best thing that ever happened to us .

    • @MeTreesndirt
      @MeTreesndirt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I never once had cafeteria lunch cas the only $ I goT was lunch money .

  • @robynbug1
    @robynbug1 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Listening to you talk about parenthood is so heartwarming. I can feel how much you love your kids.

    • @whatsanenigma
      @whatsanenigma ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And his son is living proof he raised them well.

  • @DivinityBleu
    @DivinityBleu ปีที่แล้ว +109

    You may never read this comment, but thank you, Bruce, for sharing the information that you did about your father. My own "father" was a violent, nasty, manipulative, abusive assho1e. When I finally cut him out of my life, he immediately reacted by trying to poison every single relationship I have with other family members, so I lost A LOT because I refused to drag everyone else into the middle of it, therefore I just quietly withdrew from virtually everyone with whom there was a mutual relationship. It's been an extremely painful journey, but it is more helpful than you could possibly know to hear others share their own experiences. Frankly, all I can do now is anticipate the day the miserable SOB finally quits wasting oxygen and goes to hell where he belongs. Thank you for sharing. It means a lot. ❤

    • @skippy8664
      @skippy8664 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Same, but it was my Mom. We are not alone.

    • @DivinityBleu
      @DivinityBleu ปีที่แล้ว +5

      ​@@skippy8664 I'm so sorry that your mother (I won't even dignify these "individuals" by capitalizing words to describe them) wasn't the loving, nurturing, kind human being that you deserved to be borne by. These "people" are a cancer on the planet. I just can't wrap my mind around how people are able to be so dark and cruel.
      My ridiculous "Stockholm syndrome" zombie of a mother is always going on and on about "forgiveness" when honestly, I think it's an absolute miracle that she's still alive. As a child, I could never concentrate on school, or whatever else was happening around me because I lived in constant fear that maybe "today would be the day" I went home to find her dead, and then I'd be stuck alone with him and my sister who I couldn't even talk to because her way of staying "safe" was to pretend nothing was going on....like most of my other family members, actually. The fighting was constant, and it began every single morning when he got up for work between 3 or 4 in the morning. By the time MY day began, I was already a complete emotional and psychological wreck.
      "Forgiveness" is not even within reach of my mental and emotional status. I was just desperate for peace in my life. Perhaps one day after he's LOOOOONG gone, I can approach the issue of forgiveness, but you can't worry about what the scar is going to look like while the wounds are still gaping open and bleeding. I finally realized that the only way to get peace was to eliminate everyone from my life that he could and would manipulate with lies, and more guilt tripping BS than any one human being could deal with. They're professionals at demolishing all your pillars of support, and totally isolating you. I simply cannot get beyond his audacity to manipulate my children...my 2 oldest in particular. I'll never forgive myself for not listening to my gut and cutting him out of my life as soon as I became a Mother. I was torn between wanting to be protective, and thinking that if he at least was good to my kids, perhaps I could find a way to view him through a lens other than that of "the monster" that he'd always been. He WAS good to my kids, so I limited what I told them about my childhood. He used it against me as SOON as he was certain there was no other way to try to manipulate his way back into my life. Monsters know NO boundaries. It's tempting to believe that the abuse you're subject to will stop once you hit that "magic" age and become an adult, but I found that to be a total misconception. Truly vicious people appear to be unable to change who they really are. At least that has been my experience. My heart bleeds for anyone who has had to or is currently dealing with abuse of any kind. It's a constant struggle not to be consumed by it.

    • @feanorian21maglor38
      @feanorian21maglor38 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@skippy8664 No indeed. My dad was loving but rarely protected me from my mother. She's still alive, and now I'm the only one around for her in her old age. I feel sorry for her now. My dad's parents never hit him, while my mother's father was abusive, history repeats itself. I determined to stop the cycle of abuse and have never smacked my children- I find it so easy to bring up well-behaved children, just by paying them the right amount and kind of attention. No need to smother them either! It was painful to me to see any of them falling or bumping themselves, or having their feelings hurt in any way, so I couldn't imagine any parent purposefully hurting their kids.

    • @Every_Day_islike_Sunday
      @Every_Day_islike_Sunday ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So very sorry you had to endure that. Horrible. You are probably a very strong person now. Much love.

    • @messrsandersonco5985
      @messrsandersonco5985 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not all narcissists kill. However, all are manipulative.

  • @cupcake1406
    @cupcake1406 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    If a person duct tapes anyone to restrain them then that is a crime. I believe Ruby is an evil psychopath. She needs to be punished severely her hideous crimes.

    • @donnahughes8409
      @donnahughes8409 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I absolutely agree with you anybody that duck tapes anybody at any age that is a crime much less a child duck taped this is devastating. And you can’t tell me as many followers, that she had that one of the mothers out of all of her followers could’ve figured out what kind of a person this woman was and reported her before now.

    • @aliceiscalling
      @aliceiscalling ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@donnahughes8409 People did report her, but CPS did nothing. It's really devastating that nothing was done even after she was investigated so many times.

    • @orisatalabi
      @orisatalabi ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed on all fronts. However, the children escaped from the "therapist's" (Jodi's) house. These sadistic tactics of "discipline" are among Jodi's sick ideas of parenting tactics. Ruby was terrible before she became Jodi' Hilderbrandt's acolyte, but she became an unhinged monster under the spelll of that wolf in sheep's clothing. Jodi's history is horrific. Ruby was her mark and still doesn't know it.

    • @joannholmes8726
      @joannholmes8726 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      After the duct tape, were the kids excited about being LICKED? OMG Gross. Chose being licked or duct taped? No!

  • @bellehuberty9457
    @bellehuberty9457 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    "no one's supposed to know that mommy yells" imagine how hearing that as a young kid impacts you. Imagine the issues those kids will have later in life when it comes to asking for help. As disgusting as the physical abuse aspects of this case are, the lifelong healing and unlearning these kids will have to do as they grow up makes my heart hurt.

    • @canwoop
      @canwoop ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "our viewers" - I just detest family vloggers. Kids shouldn't spend their every moment trying to please viewers, especially when those viewers apparently are pleased by child abuse.

  • @Pinkles666
    @Pinkles666 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Her grinning and laughing when her poor son said he had his bed taken away…made my blood BOIL. She is evil and sick.

    • @c.b5996
      @c.b5996 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish the very very worst possible on that nasty vile bitch. I really hope someone in jail takes care of both of them

    • @jenniferhyde5389
      @jenniferhyde5389 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep .A religious freak.Using power and control on children.

    • @Zekeormoses
      @Zekeormoses ปีที่แล้ว +3

      That's what got me too, she takes pleasure in disciplining her children.

  • @SuperNuclearUnicorn
    @SuperNuclearUnicorn ปีที่แล้ว +65

    You're a wonderful man, Bruce. Your kids are lucky to have you as a dad

    • @johnson5725
      @johnson5725 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I mean. How can I say this. Sure he seems cool. But you can’t assume something about someone from a video. You don’t know the person, anyone in front forma camera can be whoever they want.

    • @annarchy665
      @annarchy665 ปีที่แล้ว

      Great dads raise amazing men. Continue the cycle❣️
      Lol, I use the dissapointment / guilt approach too. Very effective. 😆

    • @The_1ntern3t
      @The_1ntern3t ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@annarchy665if you guilt trip your kids, you're going to regret it. Let them learn from you being a good example

    • @annarchy665
      @annarchy665 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@The_1ntern3t not like a catholic guilt trip. It's more like make bad decisions and we're going to be disappointed. I'm a chill parent and he's a terrific kid.

  • @fireburn264
    @fireburn264 ปีที่แล้ว +150

    We have 100s of peer reviewed studies that all show that corporal punishment on kids leads to negative outcomes. They are a child not a convicted murderer who broke into your house. All kids deserve love. 💙

    • @Wastingsometimehere
      @Wastingsometimehere ปีที่แล้ว +14

      People don't do it for their children. People do it because violence is the only answer to a problem they know.

    • @PenelopeGT
      @PenelopeGT ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Do you remember the Tough Love program ? It was abuse.

    • @grantkeller4634
      @grantkeller4634 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Corporal punishment studies make no distinction between abusive beat downs and measured discipline. The fact that you think spanking kids is comparable to beating an intruder shows how disingenuous you’re being, Corporal punishment works, and withholding it is how you get entitled, spoiled children. Legalize/normalize corporal punishment.

    • @isitoveryet9525
      @isitoveryet9525 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@grantkeller4634yeah, I think it’s disingenuous for OP to suggest that it always leads to negative outcomes. There was a point not too long ago when corporal punishment was considered the norm & it’s not always a negative. There’s a big difference between a spanking & a belt….& there’s a huge difference between a spanking & duct taping kids wrists & ankle’s & keeping food from them.

    • @Wastingsometimehere
      @Wastingsometimehere ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@grantkeller4634 So during your "measured discipline" sessions do you explain why what they did is wrong? Did you offer alternatives? No you just wanted to think about how good that hit feels for you in the moment.

  • @christinak2487
    @christinak2487 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I always love hearing your perspective on parenting & family. You are such a positive role model on how to be a good, successful, & humble man & father in today’s culture when there are not enough. Hope you keep this kind of content coming.

    • @dorkydragon5055
      @dorkydragon5055 ปีที่แล้ว

      Idk man guilt tripped by father lawyer? Cruuel n unusual punishment lol

  • @JRoChi
    @JRoChi ปีที่แล้ว +34

    When she told her youngest that only the older kids will get the gift of love. I had to pause for a moment. Of all the verbally abusive things she says to those kids, that’s just the absolute worst. No child should ever feel that their mommy and daddy doesn’t love them. That’s a great way to raise an addict, runaway, thief, or psychopath. I really hope these kids get all the help and therapy they need ASAP to guide them out of such a negative and detrimental environment.

    • @malanenix4033
      @malanenix4033 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I believe she was saying the 4 older kids would get actual gifts, and the youngest 2 would get the "gift of love". Still bad either way though.

    • @JRoChi
      @JRoChi ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@malanenix4033 Yeah…it’s just sad. That little girl doesn’t understand. She just heard that a gift means mommy and daddy love you. It made me so mad, I was in tears.

  • @gayletaira1763
    @gayletaira1763 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    "Duct tape is not a parenting tool."😂😂😂 Thanks, Bruce, for acknowledging that even though it takes nerves of steel to be a parent, duct tape is not a parenting tool. Child abuse is just awful.

    • @blackdandelion5549
      @blackdandelion5549 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The things we need to put on labels bc someone is an idiot. . . . . . ."Duct tape is not intended to be used as a parenting tool".

  • @HolldollMcG
    @HolldollMcG ปีที่แล้ว +119

    Also, I was born and raised in Utah. And to be charged with CA of any kind there means it has to be really bad. Attitudes in Utah are generally "parents can raise their kids how they want. Sometimes life need a beating" and a lot of law enforcement abuse their kids, so they more willing to look the other way. So for this case to even have charges means it was next level bad.

    • @lokienvy
      @lokienvy ปีที่แล้ว +25

      Thanks for the insight. I've heard anecdotes about CA in Utah, usually regarding LDS church members and wondered how it was handled over there.

    • @Jtevkicksandcards
      @Jtevkicksandcards ปีที่แล้ว

      I heard utah is all mormons on some cult like stuff

    • @traceymcswain4354
      @traceymcswain4354 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ​@@lokienvyI think they are LDS.

    • @Lucaz99
      @Lucaz99 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@traceymcswain4354they were all LDS at some point but Jodi’s ConneXions cult was trying to break away from the LDS.

    • @katie29baj
      @katie29baj ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@traceymcswain4354 you are correct. And if you look into the background of Jodi she was the recommended "therapist" by the church and LDS Bishops when members were having martial issues. The stories from several husbands about the ramifications of her "therapy" are horrid. But she was protected by the church and I believe she served as counselor to a bishop. Another channel I watch has been following this for awhile and she's done a few videos on this topic & really did a deep dive and found interviews that these husbands gave and the stories are all the same. Made the wives separate from their husbands with NO CONTACT with wife AND CHILDREN! She actually did the same thing to Ruby & Kevin (I think that's his name?) (Christina Randall is the other channel, if you're interested)
      The fact that her own sisters publicly said they've been waiting for this to happen and it needed to happen, speaks volumes!
      The oldest kids are 20 & 18 (and then 16 & 14, then the 12 year old boy and the girl that was also found at Hildebrandt's home and they are all in custody of DFCS and the father has retained a lawyer to get them back) Provided he's innocent in any prior abuse.

  • @TheBengineerTV
    @TheBengineerTV ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Bruce you’re like my TH-cam dad, you give the best advice. Please don’t stop the channel.

  • @jamiesoffey3035
    @jamiesoffey3035 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    That moment when Bruce Rivers give you more validation for your childhood abuse than your therapist ever could...

    • @MrRat-ho6jo
      @MrRat-ho6jo ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope you are in a position to therapist shop then.

  • @traviswass5012
    @traviswass5012 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    I don't think I've ever seen you get legit flustered until this video. You're a good dad I'm taking notes.

  • @PeppersMom
    @PeppersMom ปีที่แล้ว +108

    I'm 53 years old and still climbing out from under the trauma from growing up with a BPD (borderline personality disorder) mother. I hope these kids get some great, well-deserved therapy and a healthy family situation.

    • @cgg8542
      @cgg8542 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      I know exactly what you mean. This was tough to watch. My mom presented herself so perfect and angelic..the level of mind-fuckery follows you well into adulthood.

    • @michaelscott5653
      @michaelscott5653 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's the worst thing about this. The ages 0-16 are the most important and formative years of a growing child's life. Trauma instilled at those ages becomes deep rooted in the psyche (emotionally and physically) and will follow that person until the end of their lives. Damage done at those age is effectively permanent.

    • @MegaSnow121
      @MegaSnow121 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@michaelscott5653 Indeed. I am retired and still struggling with the hell I grew up in. Sure, we had some good days, though the horrible ones overshadowed them because the bad was so much more frequent than the good.

    • @matcha_zuki5597
      @matcha_zuki5597 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have BPD I hope these kids don’t develop it after all this trauma but they probably will…

    • @nicripolas816
      @nicripolas816 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That's rough. BPD in general is so hard to deal with. I hope things have gone better for you since

  • @gaynorward882
    @gaynorward882 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love u both soo much, what an absolute iconic example of family values!! It's clear life has not been a bed of roses, but u have just hunkered down and given everything within u're power, to put u're kids, front and centre. WHAT A FATHER! ❤️

  • @Mycatbrownie
    @Mycatbrownie ปีที่แล้ว +68

    I was a preschool teacher for over 20 years. We had mandatory classes every year as part of state licensing. Not just CRR and first aid but how children develop and age appropriate behavior. One thing I have learned about is bad behavior or what we think bad behavior is. When a young child does something wrong it’s usually because that’s what they do at that age. Hitting another child or not sharing is just something they have to learn. Redirecting works very well. Lying is something that all young children and teens do. If you’re with a child in a child care setting or if it’s your own child if you’re in tune with them most often you can tell when they’re lying and you can talk to them about it. I could always tell when my son was lying because he couldn’t help but smile. My grandson is lying when he talks in a higher voice about something he did wrong 😂. My point is children misbehave all the time but stop to think of their age when you discipline. Teenagers will take out their anger and frustrations on their parents. They do it because it’s a safe place and they can’t do it at school or in other settings. They might not have the tools or maturity to handle their emotions. Talking and listening, helping them work out their problems is the best thing we can do. Punishment at any age is not always appropriate. I have worked with various age groups and the one thing I always do is think of my children and how I would want them to be treated. Children are such a joy and should always be treated with respect and love.

  • @lizw.4901
    @lizw.4901 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Thank you, Bruce. So true - never beat a child. This mother is a sick monster. Bruce is right - if you can't cope, DON'T have children.

    • @bookbwitched6823
      @bookbwitched6823 ปีที่แล้ว

      And if you have them & you can't do them right, there are people to help.

  • @djadja6357
    @djadja6357 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    I love how close you and your son are. It's so wholesome. Your a great man and parent!

  • @Soadlover432
    @Soadlover432 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I agree with everything you said about raising children, you sound like you were an amazing dad, thank you for the psa for any parents out there who needed to hear it! Seriously, almost brought me to tears 💗

  • @KatrinaRaven
    @KatrinaRaven ปีที่แล้ว +60

    She testified in court her son sexually harmed 20 other children...an 11 year old...!!!! She is the worse kind of predator

    • @MeowMeow-pj5vb
      @MeowMeow-pj5vb ปีที่แล้ว +10

      She’s blaming him but really telling on herself imo.

    • @mollycote1021
      @mollycote1021 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Who testified to that?

    • @athanksgivingbaby570
      @athanksgivingbaby570 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      And that this same kid started by accessing p*rn at 3 yrs old...The only way a 3 year old sees p*rn is if an adult shows it to them. Disgusting !
      There's a video response to these allegations by Jodi's neice (who was abused by her 14 yrs ago). She talks about Jodi's obsession with sex and forcing kids to "confess" their sins - and how she confessed to things she never did just to make the torture stop. These women ate sick!

    • @ngnmech
      @ngnmech ปีที่แล้ว

      @@athanksgivingbaby570 To Ruby Spongebob Squarepants is P*rn

    • @deannag48
      @deannag48 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Accusing her own son of abusing (sexual) others is diabolical!!👹☠️
      She better get life with no parole ever!!⚡💥

  • @onewiselady6412
    @onewiselady6412 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    For a lawyer
    You’re alright
    For a dad
    You’re priceless

  • @petertorvik8413
    @petertorvik8413 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Duct tape is not a parenting tool. More pearl-handled gold wisdom from Bruce Rivers!

  • @allybelle7022
    @allybelle7022 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for being an example of compassion and leadership. It’s refreshing.

  • @heathervantuyl2316
    @heathervantuyl2316 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    bruce just never misses. SUCH a sad sad case. I heard the recording of 911 call from the neighbor the other day and heard the pain in the neighbors voice and it nearly brought me to tears. thank you for covering this case and thank you for speaking on how much of a blessing and gift children are.

    • @ItsJustValHere
      @ItsJustValHere ปีที่แล้ว +4

      And the moment when the kid says it's his fault? Heartbreaking

  • @luvnlife135
    @luvnlife135 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    It gets even worse on the "taking the bedroom away for 7 months" issue, she then sent her son to a disciplinary "camp" for several months! A camp that had kids die while in their custody. Thank God he made it through that horrible experience!

    • @richardchin2633
      @richardchin2633 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What camp is this? Kids died?

  • @CallMeMicahT
    @CallMeMicahT ปีที่แล้ว +32

    You can tell Bruce is such a good Dad. My son’s about to be 2 years old in 2 weeks, and what he said was truly inspiring.

    • @BikingWIthPanda
      @BikingWIthPanda ปีที่แล้ว

      him getting all choked up about his son gets me all choked up. i totally feel that. he gets so high on the love for his son. you're the best, bruce!

    • @carlosacuna9304
      @carlosacuna9304 ปีที่แล้ว

      Happy bday to your soon too!

  • @wiscogirl81
    @wiscogirl81 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I truly appreciate your kandor & your complete honesty

  • @crabtoes2210
    @crabtoes2210 ปีที่แล้ว +265

    Thank you for explaining the effects corporal punishment has on a child. Hitting a child teaches them nothing but to be scared of you.
    EDIT: This is a literal fact. Countless studies have been done proving so. Literally a simple google search will provide every reputable medical source saying so.

    • @brucesmith1544
      @brucesmith1544 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I think modern history would disagree

    • @iamwhoiam7887
      @iamwhoiam7887 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yeah, no. Spankings are required for discipline.

    • @dopesickdog
      @dopesickdog ปีที่แล้ว +45

      @@iamwhoiam7887 all that did was make me extremely talented at hiding things from parents.

    • @MouthyMiriam
      @MouthyMiriam ปีที่แล้ว +44

      Or hate you and never speak to you again. My mother beat the living hell out of me as a kid…. “I am spanking you because your are crying so I have to spank you until you stop crying…”. Nice

    • @williamuptgraft1755
      @williamuptgraft1755 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ​@@iamwhoiam7887 can't believe you hit your wife!

  • @fiona-lyons
    @fiona-lyons ปีที่แล้ว +53

    "Children are a f***ing blessing." I couldn't agree more. There's a very old saying in Irish 'mol an oige agus tiocfaidh siad' which means 'praise the young and they will thrive'. Encourage
    children with genuine praise for genuine achievements. My dad never hit me because, like you, he believed in words. Loving your channel over here in Cork, Ireland 🇮🇪

  • @jennewell6419
    @jennewell6419 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    There is a clip about her talking about unconditional love, and how if her children don't follow her principles they don't love her unconditionally. That's the saddest thing I've heard. She obviously doesn't know what unconditional love is. I made choices and my children have made choices that have hurt my parents and myself. But, I don't love my children any less. There is nothing they could ever do that would cause me to not love and accept them. They are the greatest part of me. They are my greatest treasures.

  • @IsabelCruz-yz3qc
    @IsabelCruz-yz3qc 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just came across your website and it can't stop watching. I love your channel! Keep up with the great work!

  • @tkdb317
    @tkdb317 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I don’t know if you heard the initial 911 call but they caller just grew increasingly distressed as it dawned on him what had been happening to these poor children. You could hear him breaking down crying as continued to describe the little boy. There was one point where he said something like "And he [the child] says that everything that has happened to him is his fault" 😥
    Can you imagine how many times these babies heard that as they were suffering and afraid!?

    • @esteemedmortal5917
      @esteemedmortal5917 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I hadn’t heard all those aspects of the call but from what I have heard, the man sounds just so devastated, as any functional human being with a heart would be ❤️‍🩹

  • @cdavidlake2
    @cdavidlake2 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    Keep in mind, this isn't undercover footage. Ruby's show had fans. Subscribers. Thousands of people who supported and enabled this behvior.

    • @CoronaryArteryDisease.
      @CoronaryArteryDisease. ปีที่แล้ว +2

      EXACTLY. A lot of people have bad parenting methods

    • @roriemarie2968
      @roriemarie2968 ปีที่แล้ว

      Right?! It's disgusting... Who watches this??

    • @blackdandelion5549
      @blackdandelion5549 ปีที่แล้ว

      Keep in mind it had HATERS and a petition going to have her investigated and people who called CPS numerous times and CPS is being investigated because going to the home, knocking, and no one answering and leaving a number to call CPS is NOT how you close out a case where I come from. Especially when you have been called out numerous times. Normally you follow up and ensure contact is made, you speak to the kids alone away from the parent and see if the parent cooperates with this, a CPS worker can ask to see if the fridge has food and the pantry has food and the kids bedrooms. If you saw her videos like where she said her 6 yr old could starve at school, I can assure you that she probably had views and comments from haters as much as she had people who went to her for any kind of advice. Her comments section was harsh on her parenting skills or lack there of.
      Don't presume the people who watched it all watch something because they support and enable something, they may be there to criticise her and try to get through to her, but some people believe they know better than everyone else to the point they call themselves experts with no education, no formal training or even seminars, no working in Montessori programs or schools, no working with children other than their own and all those people who have PhD's in this stuff just don't know what they are talking about. I guess we will see which one the judge believes more.

    • @annedolan3050
      @annedolan3050 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      She had 2.3 MILLION followers on 8 Passengers.

  • @MatthewTheCCMA
    @MatthewTheCCMA ปีที่แล้ว +21

    This absolutely breaks my heart, my mom was my absolute best friend on the planet. She was the only person to calm me down, supported me no matter what. And always told me that she loved me. She passed away at the end of 2019 from breast cancer and as much as I’m absolutely devastated, I cherish every moment and every minute I had with her. Some people are not as lucky and they end up with parents like Ruby, I was very lucky to have a mom named Rubie Who is an absolute saint. My goal is to instill that type of love and that type of support in my own children.

    • @heartmountain1696
      @heartmountain1696 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I absolutely adored my mom also! She was my best friend, teacher, counselor and confidant!! She was a gorgeous, sweet and kind woman… I have six grown daughters- and they love me and each other because that’s all we’ve ever known… LOVE!! ❤
      My mom also passed away from breast cancer in 2020 and I miss her terribly every day. Her legacy is her grandchildren and her daughter- (me🥰)
      My dad was just as kind as my mom- and they never abused any of us.
      I am so grateful for loving parents!! ❤

  • @deborahfragiorgi6791
    @deborahfragiorgi6791 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love all your content. Your commentary is hysterical! You always make my day.

  • @dimplesd8931
    @dimplesd8931 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Preach Bruce. I’m a 50yr old Af. American southerner and our family didn’t spank us. 10 1st cousins in the family and very few spankings. My grandparents didn’t spank. It’s so rare in southern families from those eras. I try to explain to my friends when we we’re raising our kids that if you have to hit a child, you lose. Ruby and Jodi are monsters and the dad isn’t off the hook. He should’ve protected them from her.

    • @Ashbrash1998
      @Ashbrash1998 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Which part of the South? I wanna live there cause I'm from the part that spank you with switches or a belt. Or whatever they had on hand so they improvised

    • @diablocls55
      @diablocls55 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I got spanked as a kid, although I haven’t been spanked since I was 7 or 8, maybe even 9 years old, after that I would just get slapped upside the head, never left a mark or hurt for more than a few seconds. On a few occasions he did use a belt but the last time he did that was when I was around 9 and it was only when I did something really bad, but it’s honestly a good thing I did get disciplined in the manner I was. Judging by my peers behavior growing up, it was very clear they were never physically disciplined as a child. I never got into any legal trouble as a teen, skipped school, or anything like that because I knew that I would rather have gone to jail than went home after my Dad found out. Can’t say the same for most of my old peers. They all were dropping out of school, getting caught with drugs ar school, getting caught stealing, etc. with little to no repercussions at home. So not only did I end up better than most of my peers, but I also ended up better than my Dad himself. My Dad ran away from home when he was a teen, lived life running the streets selling drugs and what not, and became a convicted felon in his 20s. He constantly attributes meeting my mother and my birth to saving his life.
      It helped shape me into the Man I am today at the age of 22. And last but not least and not to mention, my Dad never did some dumb shit like filming himself yelling at me for the world to see, or taking away my food or duct taping my hands or mouth 💀My relationship today with my Dad is just fine. He disciplined me in the exact same manner he was disciplined growing up.

    • @EvilGNU
      @EvilGNU ปีที่แล้ว

      @@diablocls55 Did it really help though?
      It seems to me you are just looking for a way to justify/add positive value to that experience you had.
      Was it really just being physically punished for misbehavior, or rather more the general standards of discipline that you were brought up in?
      Because as Bruce correctly states, there are many different forms to enforce discipline/create an environment where discipline can thrive.
      Physical punishment/violence is just the cheapest way to do and usually just a way to enforce, not to teach.
      Defaulting to that as a primary means of teaching discipline means you either lack perspective, effort or ability to look for and employ alternatives.
      And I think that if you really have a good relationship with your Dad he probably did a lot more to support/shape you than "just beat you up" whenever you did wrong.
      He probably could have done all that without the addition of physical violence and you still would have turned out fine.
      But the man you are today at the age of 22.
      I respect your confidence, but you got a long road ahead of you and many chances to find out about yourself.
      Save that comment you wrote and look at it in 10, 15 years and check if you still feel this way.
      Then again at 22 I too felt invincible, knew all and that I owned the world.
      Cheers.

    • @RebeccaOre
      @RebeccaOre ปีที่แล้ว

      Slavery left a terrible mark on the US South by normalizing often savage corporal punishment. Good that the circle was broken in some families.

  • @Antoinette14273
    @Antoinette14273 ปีที่แล้ว +145

    Lifestyle influencer!!!??? The audacity...
    For once I'm speechless. Just a terrible and horrible situation. It is so sad for these children they should be out having fun not starved and abused.

    • @forrestfey
      @forrestfey ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Lifestyle of a cult

  • @CarolChevalier-w8v
    @CarolChevalier-w8v ปีที่แล้ว +13

    In 26 minutes you had over eight thousand views!!! Your videos are completely awesome. And they will help people treat their children better. Thank you so much for this one.

    • @MrsEJV
      @MrsEJV ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had a policy. If you were at my house at 6;00, you sat down and ate. I had a lost and found for random kids. The image of 16 people at your grandma's table brought tears to my eyes. I loved being "that house" where everyone was welcomed. Now I'm the grandmother of six. Still feeding kids. ❤

  • @trusound170
    @trusound170 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I appreciate this video so much. My mother was my biggest childhood bully. I won't detail her abuse to me and my siblings, but the way she treated us directly affected how I raised my own kids. I only spanked my kids maybe 4 or 5 times in their life. They are well behaved because discuss. I don't just bark orders at them and tell them how it's going to be. I hope Ruby and her nasty friend are served a huge helping of justice.

  • @lizadoesray
    @lizadoesray ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Whenever someone pipes up in these conversations and says something like, my parents beat me, it didn’t hurt me. They are the most miserable human beings I know. So it did affect you.

  • @Gary_M
    @Gary_M ปีที่แล้ว +54

    The kids are clearly terrified of her. Rules are there to help kids learn boundaries because you want them to succeed. She used rules, hoping they would fail, as an excuse to punish her kids. She obviously enjoyed punishing them, and they walked on eggshells around her hoping they wouldn't set her off. It's sad.

    • @karadiberlino
      @karadiberlino ปีที่แล้ว +5

      And the father turns a blind eye!!!
      What a „man“.

    • @johnvine5731
      @johnvine5731 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That sounds spot on to me.

    • @ossian108
      @ossian108 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There is something seriously wrong with her. I'm not a trained specialist so i can't diagnose her, unfortunately.

    • @batubop651
      @batubop651 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@karadiberlinoso true. In society and psychology we are at least finally acknowledging the highly abusive role the enabler plays and that their behaviour isn’t passive at all, the neglect and serious harm they allow and cause can be just as dangerous. So I hope the law begins to place more emphasis on the dangers of this behavior and holds such people accountable. Just as coercive control is now recognised in Britain and Australia (i’m not familiar with American law) as a very serious form of abuse, especially in domestic abuse cases.

  • @joannalewis5279
    @joannalewis5279 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    'The gift of love'. Thank you for highlighting the terror of parental emotional abuse

  • @jaynedavis3388
    @jaynedavis3388 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I didn’t understand the label of “Content Genius” until I realised they have over 1 million subscribers. Absolutely earned title. Well done Michael 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 20:35 Edit: I wrote this before it was requested. Genuine props

  • @katiebrown118
    @katiebrown118 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    You’re a good man Bruce. I wish more dads were like you

  • @ArchieRatsworth
    @ArchieRatsworth ปีที่แล้ว +99

    Taking a child's property away, denying food, taping them like a kidnap victim...
    If you wanted to destroy
    a person's sense of agency, privacy and belonging and leave them unable to trust or respect themselves, perfect.
    You're turning kids into ideal future victims or serial killers.

    • @healerscreek
      @healerscreek ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Or mommy killers!

    • @luxurypetscz
      @luxurypetscz ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yes! she should write a book on how to raise a future abuser.

    • @DustinRodriguez1_0
      @DustinRodriguez1_0 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And she is tying it all to religion, don't forget that! They did a big study of violent sex offenders on death row, looking at the "religiosity" of their childhood situation. Religiosity isn't just like going to church and things, its a measure of how deeply that's tied in to every other aspect of life, like does it control what music you're allowed to listen to, TV you're allowed to watch, books you're allowed to read, etc, how much time out of each week is dedicated to it, are breaking house rules seen as religious sin, etc. They found clear patterns. The more violent the crime, the higher their religiosity was. And the absolute highest religiosity households produced all the violent sex offenders that targeted children.

    • @maryjackson1194
      @maryjackson1194 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@DustinRodriguez1_0 Religiosity is another way to describe an external locus of control: the belief that we are blown around by external forces and we are forced to do the things we do...therefore we can never be blamed. We are never responsible for our actions.

    • @gergelyvarju6679
      @gergelyvarju6679 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It is obvious to most people, but the problem is: Their content was still popular. Their fans supported this behavior, and most decided these two crones can't be perpetrators, abusers, but they can only be victims because they are women, and they justified this behavior that way. When a lot of viewers validate and support their behavior and there is ideology, etc. to back that up, that is horrifying. People who supported this behavior are morally responsible for the problem, and according to laws in several country they would be also legally responsible, as accessory for the crime, providing moral support and encouragement to the perpetrator to commit the crime. But even where their supporters would be legally responsible it would be practically impossible to prosecute tens of thousands of fans.

  • @judiths5252
    @judiths5252 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Jodi’s niece has spoken on a podcast about how she was “treated” as a teenager. It is heartbreaking and what has happened is exactly what happened to Jessi. It is a pattern of blaming the victim.

    • @amethyst8852
      @amethyst8852 ปีที่แล้ว

      What podcast it is?

    • @mellowjeje13
      @mellowjeje13 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@amethyst8852it's called Mormon stories podcast (you tube channel) the interview is incredible!!

    • @judiths5252
      @judiths5252 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It’s a Mormon Stories Podcast.

    • @joananthony6323
      @joananthony6323 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      She went to the police but they didn't believe her because she was a troubled teenager - as if an abused child isn't going to be difficult as a teenager.
      Seems like there were a lot of opportunities to stop this

    • @dedemunson4988
      @dedemunson4988 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I watched that podcast and I believe her!! Jesse, if you see this I am so sorry for the treatment you received from that vile woman and then to not be believed 😢 that makes me so angry! You did not deserve any of it! I wish you everything good in life. I send positive vibes and prayers of peace and strength!! ❤❤

  • @deborahstollman6238
    @deborahstollman6238 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Michael Rivers! You’re a genius and are so blessed to have such an incredible relationship with your dad! 😊

  • @dearbh1736
    @dearbh1736 ปีที่แล้ว +64

    I remember when my daughter was a very small infant, she's almost 17 now. An elderly aunt who was the mother of 8 happy children said to me ' Children do not do what we want them to do, they do as we do'. I never forgot this and while I had to have conversations with my daughter over the years when she messed up, as we all do, children and adults alike, more than anything I tried to set a good example for her through my own behaviour. I adopted her when she was 3 months old and was literally terrified about how to be a good mother to her but these simple words of advice were all I really needed to do right by her. She is just an amazing person and I am so proud of her and grateful to be her mother.
    I have been watching this case unfold in a state of shock as new clips of video keep showing up. I felt the same way Bruce did watching these clips. Where is the good example here? Berating and savagely punishing small children for little to nothing while these babies are trying to navigate their way through a moral maze? Zero guidance, public embarrassment, a narcissistic role model and an apparent lack of a father or anyone to turn to other than a stranger next door. What saddens me in particular is that this is a highlighted case because of her social media notoriety but child abuse like this is going on in thousands of families/homes at this very moment and children are suffering and dying because nobody knows or sees or does anything about it.

    • @harrietxo2310
      @harrietxo2310 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The father is equally as guilty. That kind of abuse didn’t happen within the small amount of time the dad was away from it c

    • @harrietxo2310
      @harrietxo2310 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      This makes me smile so much! I’m 21, zero relationship with my mum, her boyfriends/sisters/reputation matter more to her! It may sound silly but it truly occurred. As a victim of assault from when she kicked me out, she states I deserved it and she’d kick me out again. It makes me glad and happy to know there are amazing mums like you! Xx

    • @dearbh1736
      @dearbh1736 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@harrietxo2310 I'm really sorry that things are not good between you and your mom. Just hang in there and keep on keepin' on. You get the choice to break the cycle of abuse as you move forward in your own life and that is really empowering. I am in no way amazing, just doing my best by my daughter and to be honest, she has never been a very 'challenging' child so I am very blessed.

    • @michaelax3025
      @michaelax3025 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jeez, who's got time to read your novel! Was it impossible for you to get right to the point?????

    • @harrietxo2310
      @harrietxo2310 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@michaelax3025 I did! Don’t be obtuse