@@davidtan8247 She went looking elsewhere for fulfillment because she couldn't find it in her relationship with Ed. For her to say "it's not about you" is incredibly selfish and perfectly illustrates how little she thinks of him. Yes, *her* actions ruined the marriage but it is absolutely 100% about *both* of them.
Eddie M It’s her own fault she did those things, not Ed’s. Sure the marriage possibly being ruined is both their problem but Ed did nothing wrong. This is all Madeline’s doing.
Atlantis Stars - The thing is that we, as people, have very little tolerance for men being violent to women despite us having lots of immoral tolerance for women being violent to men. So, this screenwriter brilliantly made the choice to keep Ed restrained so that the viewers would not lose sympathy for him.
“To get my ears checked” is the reason my wife and I can’t watch her shows together. She is mortified watching the scene, and I can’t stop laughing at that line.
@@dakashoes4702 scared for the characters and their situation it's a tense moment i was also scared when i watched it bc i was worried ab what would happen to their relationship
He's the most amazing husband made all the more heart-breaking because you know he absolutely ADORES her! In the first season he even said that he's the lucky one because he gets to wake up every morning with the girl of his dreams.
I think it's really significant when Ed said, "My daughter--and, yes, I do think of her as a daughter..." because this show has mostly focused on the relationships between biological parents and their children. In that respect, Ed's been excluded from much of the discussion. But stepfathers and stepmothers are just as much a part of the discussion at hand.
@@catlady3147 I personally feel like those shots in which we see him look at her, people have assigned too much meaning to that. It didn't suggest much to me at the time. Perhaps because Ed's character is not as sexual as others, we want to assign meaning that isn't there.
@@lucieswenson262 it was a scene where they were both in the kitchen and he was looking at her from afar. Just for a brief second, he was watching her and it made think he was attracted to her.
I had an eerily similar "Ed" experience and, trust me, this scene nails it. The half-hearted, no-tear apology... the "it's about me" excuses... Madeline wanting to know what Ed is thinking after years of keeping secrets... the sudden desire to seek counseling after the damage is done. Best of all... Ed's pain being driven by the loss of trust rather than the physical affair. Brilliant!
Syifa Mutiara she didn’t seek out the affair because of something that she lacked in her relationship with her husband but lack of something in herself. Weird choice of words through. It was lust and desire and that’s it in my opinion.
Sorry, can't relate. I guess that's how white people handle affairs. Very calm, composed and objective. If this was a black, latino or asian couple, forget it. The scene would look nothing like this at all.
Lissandra Freljord i don’t think is a matter of race. I think is a matter of how deeply she doesn’t really want to stay in that relationship. She’s not even crying much. And him as a character is understanding and calm so after leaving and reflecting he just came back to say his mind and leave
@@GloriaC333 I'm just happy that Madeline took responsibility and admitted that it was her own selfishness and nothing else. I've seen cheaters handle the repercussions of their actions in far worse ways.
@@ceddie5stl That doesn't mean he doesn't love her. It was a tough place for a kid to be put in. Personally, I'd be upset that my kid didn't tell me, but I'd understand completely why they didn't. That isn't a position anyone should ever put their child in. And her keeping that from him didn't make him see her as any less of his daughter. The real blame is on Madelyn for being a lying witch.
His acting was brilliant. He even creep me out a little bit standing in the doorway. But I always assumed he knew since the car accident. Madeline even told him once that she made a terrible mistake and he told her don't say it. All of this during the days they had conversations about their non existent sexual lives.
I thought he knew as well or at least highly suspected. I forgot he never had it confirmed. Assuming they weren't coming back for a season 2, I thought that heartfelt embrace they had at the end of season 1 was him letting go of his suspicions and the show telling us they would be all right.
Yo Benjamin Are you actually defending her cheating behaviour? Are you good? Non existent sex lives? Sounds like you are even coming up with reasons as to why she cheated. If life isnt good with your partner anymore then atleast have the courage to end it. Cutting off a conversation is something people when they fear the worst. Its natural but its also obvious that he wasnt 100% sure that she cheated instead she thought about getting away with it scott-free
Ed had a small *ick. So he married a divorcee single mom. No self respecting man would marry any woman with a baggage and tend to other man's kid. But Ed is a perfect example of a beta simp male.
Madeline is basically my ex… she said the same exact thing to me a few days ago after I found out she’d cheated for yrs on me. Beware of ppl like this. They are very manipulative the best thing to do is not even show any emotion towards them & leave.
When Madeline said it wasn’t about him, it was about her she was right. Ed’s the picture perfect husband- he’s kind, he’s caring, he’s loving, everything. But Madeline has shown that she’s the one with the issues, and what sucks the most is Ed is there throughout all of them. She’s still in love with her ex husband, and kinda compares Ed to her ex. Even after it’s been 15 years. This affair with the director was just the cherry on top of the cake. Madeline is a good friend at times, yes. But she is a narcissistic, self absorbed, and selfish character. In terms of her family all she cares about is herself, and what she wants. From her daughter saying she wanted to basically do a non profitable charity that builds houses for the poor, and yelling at her for that. To taking her daughter to Disney on ice instead of a birthday party that her daughter said she wanted to go to. All over a vendetta against another mom. To cheating on her husband who adores, and loves her just like any woman would dream. To still loving her ex even though he still has a new wife, and daughter. All while comparing her new husband to her old ex. She’s honestly the worst character.
The only time she has redeemable qualities is with her friends, and even then what she did with her exes wife was selfish. The girl was right, she would’ve gotten off in the matter of self defense and there was six eye witnesses. But she said one thing, and everyone else followed. Now she has to live with a dirty secret that she can’t even tell anybody about. And Madeline is like “you can talk to us about it” like that’s not the point. lol.
Honestly, if your still in love with an ex-Bf/husband or ex-gf/wife. Why get into a new relationship, HEAL first. Nif your not ready or willing to love your new partner. Wholeheartedly & unconditionally why do it. Just for you to cause damage. Cause you wanna have your cake and eat it too. SMFH
"It's about me." - You shouldn't have an opinion. "It's about us." - You should share in the blame/you should want to fix this. "Moment of weakness." - You should be strong and live with this. All of it was about trying to take power away from him while saddling with responsibility. This is some of the most realistic writing I've ever seen when it comes to a woman trying to manage the discovery of her infidelity. All the way up to the complete lack of actual tears until he firmly assigned accountability to her, where it belongs.
She definitely does not deserve him.. cheating, lying and not even giving him the chance to know the truth after being confronted. She’s not ready to be in a committed relationship
It's pathetic he loves a girl that isn't his that has so little respect and care for him that she kept a lie like that from him, where the only one in the relationship being severely affected by it is him.
@@raider1297 who hurt you? Lots of biological kids(unfortunately) keep the secret of their parents infidelities. Given her younger sister's age Ed has been in her life since she was little girl herself and clearly cares for her.
I appreciate Adam Scott being in this kind of show, his character is more of a calmer character that goes through serious moments that really elevates the tension for this kind of show.
This is women in general when theyve done something bad. It felt right in the moment so it must have been right then. Only when there is consequences a woman doesn't want does she FEEL she was wronged not did wrong but wronged by circumstances she couldn't control.
@@Hcaz1113 cheating men do the same. Blame the wife, stress whatever bs circumstance but themselves and lack of morality. Cheaters are inexcusable no matter the sex.
@@mattsimmons3580 true, but the biggest thing a 304 never expects is when their loyal simp of 15+ years crashes her gravy train then sets it on fire just like Ed did.
Once someone cheats don't give them a second chance dump them asap and make them learn a hard lesson in life. Once you break someone's trust it can't be put back together.
When cheating happens, trust is destroyed no matter how hard you try to restore it. Also, two other things happen when you "take back" a cheater: 1. Despite all appearances, the cheater will never respect you; 2. You will never be able to look at the cheater the same way ever again. Move on.
@Gary Henzler but she has responsibility within her own marriage to maintain, which is not to divulge in infidelity- it is not a mistake to go against that, she ultimately still had the decision to go forward with it or decline. Cheating, whether it be on the fault of either party, is still bad.
@Gary Henzler bruh shut the fuck up cheating isn't a mistake it's a choice you might be one of the people who cheat so you think cheating is a mistake.
@Gary Henzler cheating is never a mistake unless someone was raped or forced to partake in it,are you saying that the director forced himself on her? Couldnt she defend herself? Someone can only seduce someone when they want to be seduced,vulnerability? she is a married woman and he is a married man,she wanted to fuck someone and she did,no mistake there,she knew what she was doing and so did he,they a both pieces of shit.Never ever say that cheating is a mistake,only time it is,is when one party is forced into it by a threat or physical assault,even then its more of a crime rather than a fucking mistake.
Perfect on how the affair was managed by the writers without the usual stereotypes. He never gets angry, throws or break things, threatens her, or even rise his voice.
It's the new age thinking. Emasculate men {particularly husbands} let them suffer betrayal and humiliation, and pressure him to reconcile with the cheating slut with no atonement or comeuppance on her part....
She has no respect for him.he does need to leave her. He's a great husband. Side note I thought he said he needed to leave to get his "gears checked" the first time and now I see he said he needed to get his "ears checked" and yes I understand I should get my ears checked too.
He wont leave her, that would be a really firm move and this show is more focused on building up the women. I guarantee you Ed forgives her otherwise it's like Madeline "lost" and they wont write that.
@@grapeape888 If that's really the way the writers are going about it, it would be a shame. Strong women can be at fault too. Empowering women doesn't have to mean giving them endless chances even after they are in the wrong. I honestly think Ed deserves better. Maddie isn't a bad person but she has done some bad things and that's what I liked about her. She is real, she is empathetic but she makes awful mistakes too.
@@TalkAsSoftAsChalk At what point does making awful mistakes turn into you're an awful person though? How much leeway is it exactly? you have to call a spade a spade and giving her character all this extra room to screw up doesn't help people like her. From Ed's POV, she's an awful person and deserves the title.
@@grapeape888 Yeah I agree with you. She’s an awful person. You can’t keep making mistakes and calling it mistakes. especially when you’re fully aware, what you’re is wrong ASF.
The way his hands were shaking as he was talking - you could really see his anger and how hurt he was despite the fact that he wasn’t yelling or acting violent
I adore him as well and can't wait for him to get out of his wives shadow. It's all about her... However, I hope he won't cheat with Bonnie as the previous episode suggested.
@@srkh8966 Its HBO, everyone is just a little off or bat shit insane 😂. Also, I think its the bullying in his youth and then the constant belittling from Madeleine and outright rudeness of her ex that has taken a toll on him.
This scene made me think of that quote from When Harry Sally. "Marriages don't break down on account of infidelity. It's a symptom something else is wrong". "Yeah? Well, that symptom is screwing my wife".
@Christina Jones Is this how you control your husband, too. You disagree with him, then before he can expound on his point of view you cut him off and end all debate? It's a pretty typical maneuver and it usually works best on betas. But it doesn't work on alphas. And alphas don't stick around after the woman they loved betrays them by fucking some other swinging dick.
this is why madeline has always been my least favorite character. what does she mean "it's not about you?" this is just as much his marriage as much as it is hers and it's his wife that's getting nailed by the theater director. it has everything to do with him.
Yup. By her saying that, it's pure projection. She thought he was so weak and stay but then he had the audacity to get mad and leave her. Even simps have a threshold of tolerance for this when enough is enough.
I just recently finished watching Parks and Recreation, before that however I wasn’t really familiar with Adam Scott and his work so I totally forgot that he was also in Big Little Lies. But after watching Parks and Rec and coming back to this scene? The RANGE that Adam Scott has is just incredible. You wouldn’t even believe that he caused the “Ice town” incident 😂
Here's a show full of amazing, A-List, Academy Award-winning actors and it's Adam Scott's character that makes me take the most notice. He kills it in this show.
@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 Reese Witherspoon, Laura Dern, Nicole Kidman, and Meryl Streep all have Oscars. My point is that he is an amazing actor but doesn't have the reputation as these heavy hitters but still held his own.
i've never not liked any of reese witherspoon's characters but ohhh man, i was looking at her with disgust! she is such a great actress oh my god i gotta watch this show
While watching this, I am thinking falling out of love is understandable, feeling attracted to someone else is understandable but why cheat... Just be honest, end that relationship if you don't feel fulfilled.... Why do you need to hurt the person you once loved... Why!? For what!? Things maybe hard but you are not the only one in a relationship... Why are trying to get a revenge for nothing!? I think people like this are just selfish... "I only need physical pleasure, I still love my husband /wife, it's a one time thing, everything is normal".. This doesn't work... What if your partner does the same or if your relatives /kids find out... Just spare yourself and others and end the relationship!!
Cheating is better because it means the person still cares about the relationship and wants to keep it alive. Breaking off the relationship straight up at the first sign of doubt is more hurtful.
I wish the poor guy would have grown some balls and left her ass at the end of the series. She wasn't sorry for cheating on him she was sorry she got caught.
@@mogwaiman6048 Lol how tf is somebody a simp to their wife. Stfu y’all use that word to loosely and don’t even know wtf it mean. 😑 he’s a beta-male for sure but a simp no.
I can't imagine a guy thinking of his stepdaughter as his own, loving her like that a got to know that his wife is unfaithful to him and his step daughter know about it but chooses to side with his mother instead of her father by keeping it secret from him
Why you NEVER adopt the step kid. Imagine doing tjat,them tje single mother you rescued chests in you and now you get to pay child support for a kid you never had.
Any partner that gets caught cheating and wants to fix will have to realise that they'd literally have to spend the remainder of their lives making up for that cock up, constant reassuring, constant showing of devotion, constant thoughtful gifts and attention, giving up toxic friends, acceloting they're going to be watched all the time, questioned all the time and rightly so. They will literally live to serve the victim if they really want to fix it. If theyre caught red handed the victim will never forget the image the partner cheating and will always be reminded if that moment. A cheater 99/100 will never be fully forgiven. Maybe 80% atbest and they'll haveto accept it or move on
Sorry but everything aside Abigail is an entitled child, whos mother is not making her accountable for any thing in her life. She doesn't even realize how privileged she is to have the means to go to any university, reminds me of parents paying for there kids to get into any school they want. Sad commentary of parents raising their children in the 21st century. Perfect example.
I love ed even though he does seem mildly passive and always going with the flow like the psychiatrist said. But he didn’t deserve that he always stood by her
Even then the court would still rule in favor of the wife, force the husband to pay alimony and child support and dress him as the true cause behind the wife's infidelity.
If he hadn't by chance overheard them, she may have let him grow old without knowing. It would be hard to know, but better than not knowing, i imagine.
It's hard to tell which is worse here Madeline cheating on her husband or the fact that she tried to negotiate marriage counseling with Ed after she acted like the affair never happened.
I never understood why people loved her character she's was selfish, self righteous and she treated a good , honest loyal man like crap and millions of women loved her scray to think of that
She is strong, has a career while raising 2 kids, is a loyal friend. And what's wrong with being selfish?? For centuries women have been told that they don't matter. Having a character who shows is okay to be selfish it's a nice refreshment. As for Ed, he was a simp. Annoying, clingy and whiny. Not the kind of man a woman dreams of. He is lucky she looked at him twice
She is beyond lucky Ed reconciled with her in the end. She didn't deserve it at all. Even in the episodes when Ed is estranged from her, she still daydreamed about the AP, never about Ed. She only had remorse after she was caught and was even yelling at Ed towards the end of the series to make up his mind. Dude was beyond decent and even had a chance to have his own affair with the wife of the guy Madeline was fucking, but turned her down. He was way better than I would have been.
The same reason a woman would cheat on a dude like that is the same reason the dude took her back. He's weak, has no self-respect and is the perfect man to play games with for a woman.
In these shows the dude always forgives them in the end, when the roles are reversed the women always finds someone "better" think they almost always normalize women cheating in marriages lol
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“It’s not about you” is so insulting. It IS about him. It’s his marriage.
That's what people say to justify thier behaviour.
His marriage yes. But it didn’t happen because of him. It’s about her and her problem, not the marriage. She ruined their marriage cos of her.
@@davidtan8247 She went looking elsewhere for fulfillment because she couldn't find it in her relationship with Ed. For her to say "it's not about you" is incredibly selfish and perfectly illustrates how little she thinks of him. Yes, *her* actions ruined the marriage but it is absolutely 100% about *both* of them.
Eddie M All of what you said are still about her and her own problems.
Eddie M It’s her own fault she did those things, not Ed’s. Sure the marriage possibly being ruined is both their problem but Ed did nothing wrong. This is all Madeline’s doing.
Madeline: where are you going ?
Ed: To get my ears checked ?
Lmaooooo Ed come through with the sass boiiii
Atlantis Stars - The thing is that we, as people, have very little tolerance for men being violent to women despite us having lots of immoral tolerance for women being violent to men. So, this screenwriter brilliantly made the choice to keep Ed restrained so that the viewers would not lose sympathy for him.
That broke me on so many levels.
shit..I missed it
"Where are you going"
The gall
Leslie Knope wouldn’t cheat.
Anjenina M Ed McKenzie needs a Leslie Knope.
AMEN
Period sister
Mac-Attack, 👌
Agreed. Leslie was awesome. Funny that Reese has played a cheating housewife in a few shows recently.
adam scott is one of the most underrated actors of this generation.
why?
He is improving , was not good initially
I love the way his hands tremble when he's talking. It's so good
Yesssss 🙌🏼
Shankar Das you’re kidding?!? Have you seen him in The Vicious Kind, Who Loves the Sun, Tell Me You Love Me, etc?! He’s soooo underrated!
the way his hand shakes when he tries to make sense of all of this... acting on point
He has tremors, his hand shakes in every show.
Yes!! I noticed that too. So subtle but so effective
Ed I know another short chirpy blonde woman that lives in Pawnee, Indiana
cue intense music favorite comment ever !
who is that?
@@smokinggun8418 Leslie Knope, and surely she wouldn't cheat
“To get my ears checked” is the reason my wife and I can’t watch her shows together. She is mortified watching the scene, and I can’t stop laughing at that line.
she's probably cheating
Why should she be mortified?
@@dakashoes4702 I'd like to know as well. 😂 makes no sense
If your wife gets mortified at this scene it's likely that she's cheated on you.
@@dakashoes4702 scared for the characters and their situation it's a tense moment i was also scared when i watched it bc i was worried ab what would happen to their relationship
Ed didn’t deserved this, he’s a great husband!
He's the most amazing husband made all the more heart-breaking because you know he absolutely ADORES her! In the first season he even said that he's the lucky one because he gets to wake up every morning with the girl of his dreams.
Oh pls bullshit ... good husband bad husband...it's not about that how good someone is whatever that is ...and what who deserves
She definitely doesn't go easy on Ed.
@@Hop3fulRomantic Sorry but who's Tori?
@@googleuser3665 The wife of the man she had an affair with
And even after that, Ed didn't even slam the door. Such a gentleman.
That's not what a gentleman is 🙄
He is not reacting, can't let his emotions flow. Will haunt him later, will make his a physopath.
Hate isn't the opposite of love. Indifference is.
He is obviously homosexual.
@@johnowen9349 well said bravo
@@joekrebs964 lol i love this comment
I think it's really significant when Ed said, "My daughter--and, yes, I do think of her as a daughter..." because this show has mostly focused on the relationships between biological parents and their children. In that respect, Ed's been excluded from much of the discussion. But stepfathers and stepmothers are just as much a part of the discussion at hand.
But in Season 1, did you notice he looked at Abigail suggestively? Do you remember that? That was gross.
@@catlady3147 I personally feel like those shots in which we see him look at her, people have assigned too much meaning to that. It didn't suggest much to me at the time.
Perhaps because Ed's character is not as sexual as others, we want to assign meaning that isn't there.
@@lucieswenson262 then why have that innuendo in the script?
@@catlady3147 I hadn't seen that, unfortunately. All of this is just my interpretation of the performances alone.
@@lucieswenson262 it was a scene where they were both in the kitchen and he was looking at her from afar. Just for a brief second, he was watching her and it made think he was attracted to her.
I had an eerily similar "Ed" experience and, trust me, this scene nails it. The half-hearted, no-tear apology... the "it's about me" excuses... Madeline wanting to know what Ed is thinking after years of keeping secrets... the sudden desire to seek counseling after the damage is done. Best of all... Ed's pain being driven by the loss of trust rather than the physical affair. Brilliant!
Eddie M yeah, what's with the "it's about me excuse"? She kept saying that but i don't understand how could she
Syifa Mutiara she didn’t seek out the affair because of something that she lacked in her relationship with her husband but lack of something in herself. Weird choice of words through. It was lust and desire and that’s it in my opinion.
Sorry, can't relate. I guess that's how white people handle affairs. Very calm, composed and objective. If this was a black, latino or asian couple, forget it. The scene would look nothing like this at all.
Lissandra Freljord i don’t think is a matter of race. I think is a matter of how deeply she doesn’t really want to stay in that relationship. She’s not even crying much. And him as a character is understanding and calm so after leaving and reflecting he just came back to say his mind and leave
@@GloriaC333 I'm just happy that Madeline took responsibility and admitted that it was her own selfishness and nothing else. I've seen cheaters handle the repercussions of their actions in far worse ways.
The way he starts to choke when he says "my daughter" referring to his step daughter is so beautiful and makes me sob
except his stepdaughter/daughter knew for a yr that he was getting cheated on and she didn't say anything... That's the part that makes me sob.
@@ceddie5stl That doesn't mean he doesn't love her. It was a tough place for a kid to be put in. Personally, I'd be upset that my kid didn't tell me, but I'd understand completely why they didn't. That isn't a position anyone should ever put their child in. And her keeping that from him didn't make him see her as any less of his daughter. The real blame is on Madelyn for being a lying witch.
Never marry a single.mother 😅
@@Rubrick23.facts my brother
@@XnovalityNever EVER! It’s a shittty deal. Most ways you slice it. It’s Not Worth it..
His acting was brilliant. He even creep me out a little bit standing in the doorway. But I always assumed he knew since the car accident. Madeline even told him once that she made a terrible mistake and he told her don't say it. All of this during the days they had conversations about their non existent sexual lives.
I thought he knew as well or at least highly suspected.
I forgot he never had it confirmed. Assuming they weren't coming back for a season 2, I thought that heartfelt embrace they had at the end of season 1 was him letting go of his suspicions and the show telling us they would be all right.
@@Movies123Online i know right. she wanted to tell him but he cut her off
Yo Benjamin Are you actually defending her cheating behaviour? Are you good? Non existent sex lives? Sounds like you are even coming up with reasons as to why she cheated. If life isnt good with your partner anymore then atleast have the courage to end it. Cutting off a conversation is something people when they fear the worst. Its natural but its also obvious that he wasnt 100% sure that she cheated instead she thought about getting away with it scott-free
@@taskforceknight9336 exactly
Ed had a small *ick. So he married a divorcee single mom. No self respecting man would marry any woman with a baggage and tend to other man's kid. But Ed is a perfect example of a beta simp male.
“Get my ears checked” is the best reply I’ve ever heard when you hear your partner talk about cheating and denies it
3:04 his hands are shaking... what an incredible actor.
It's near impossible to shake, truly incredible. He blinks, too!
@@DisemboweII Don't forget he inhaled through his nostrils
Ed was such a good husband. I feel bad for all the great husband and wives that get cheated on for no reason.
Madeline is basically my ex… she said the same exact thing to me a few days ago after I found out she’d cheated for yrs on me. Beware of ppl like this. They are very manipulative the best thing to do is not even show any emotion towards them & leave.
they always cry when they get caught, but when they are cheating they are so happy, and never think about their husbands and their feelings
Yes. True. Enjoy during cheating as its gonna be their last chance. Then play a victim card
Or Wives
@@jack4029 very true
True
😂
When Madeline said it wasn’t about him, it was about her she was right. Ed’s the picture perfect husband- he’s kind, he’s caring, he’s loving, everything. But Madeline has shown that she’s the one with the issues, and what sucks the most is Ed is there throughout all of them. She’s still in love with her ex husband, and kinda compares Ed to her ex. Even after it’s been 15 years. This affair with the director was just the cherry on top of the cake. Madeline is a good friend at times, yes. But she is a narcissistic, self absorbed, and selfish character. In terms of her family all she cares about is herself, and what she wants.
From her daughter saying she wanted to basically do a non profitable charity that builds houses for the poor, and yelling at her for that. To taking her daughter to Disney on ice instead of a birthday party that her daughter said she wanted to go to. All over a vendetta against another mom. To cheating on her husband who adores, and loves her just like any woman would dream. To still loving her ex even though he still has a new wife, and daughter. All while comparing her new husband to her old ex. She’s honestly the worst character.
The only time she has redeemable qualities is with her friends, and even then what she did with her exes wife was selfish. The girl was right, she would’ve gotten off in the matter of self defense and there was six eye witnesses. But she said one thing, and everyone else followed. Now she has to live with a dirty secret that she can’t even tell anybody about. And Madeline is like “you can talk to us about it” like that’s not the point. lol.
Honestly, if your still in love with an ex-Bf/husband or ex-gf/wife. Why get into a new relationship, HEAL first. Nif your not ready or willing to love your new partner. Wholeheartedly & unconditionally why do it. Just for you to cause damage. Cause you wanna have your cake and eat it too. SMFH
My ex is Madeleine. That's why I left and am not coming back.
@@biancarodriguez666 thank you. On point.
its just semantics. in one way its not about him, but in another way its all about him
"It's about me." - You shouldn't have an opinion.
"It's about us." - You should share in the blame/you should want to fix this.
"Moment of weakness." - You should be strong and live with this.
All of it was about trying to take power away from him while saddling with responsibility. This is some of the most realistic writing I've ever seen when it comes to a woman trying to manage the discovery of her infidelity. All the way up to the complete lack of actual tears until he firmly assigned accountability to her, where it belongs.
I can't like this comment enough!
100%
Women and accountability is like water and oil
This is so perfectly and succinctly stated.
Hopefully this means adam scott will get an emmy nomination
Matthew anzalone He should. His acting was so on point here. You could even see him shaking to help showcase his characters anger.
She definitely does not deserve him.. cheating, lying and not even giving him the chance to know the truth after being confronted. She’s not ready to be in a committed relationship
It's not about being ready, she doesn't deserve such a relationship. Her and a cheater or an overall bad husband would fit together.
never watched it, what was the truth? If it was ANYTHING other than her getting rapped, nothing more needs to be said.
@@B.A.B.G.Why didn't he kick her ass?
Adam Scott is so underrated as an actor! He is so versatile! I felt his pain in this scene!
Scott Adams is also underrated.
It’s lovely that he was more angry about his daughter having to carry the secret for a year than the fact that he was cheated on.
Stepdaughter. Abigail was his stepdaughter. Unless you mean Chloe.
@@sadie8834he says he sees her as his daughter
It's pathetic he loves a girl that isn't his that has so little respect and care for him that she kept a lie like that from him, where the only one in the relationship being severely affected by it is him.
@@raider1297 Agreed.
@@raider1297 who hurt you? Lots of biological kids(unfortunately) keep the secret of their parents infidelities. Given her younger sister's age Ed has been in her life since she was little girl herself and clearly cares for her.
If you listen closely enough you can hear their marriage crash and burn in that scene
This makes me realize that Leslie Knope and Ben Wyatt were the perfect couple.
I appreciate Adam Scott being in this kind of show, his character is more of a calmer character that goes through serious moments that really elevates the tension for this kind of show.
When she said it wasn’t about him was pretty awful considering how she has never made it or anything about him as his wife.
My man Adam Scott kills it. This should be a Emmy winning scene
I love how no matter in movies or in real life when someone gets cheated on they always try to justify what happened wow amazing
Yeah. They try to put blame on husband, time, breakup, bad mood etc. And as if she did nothing wrong And enjoyed during cheating
This is women in general when theyve done something bad. It felt right in the moment so it must have been right then. Only when there is consequences a woman doesn't want does she FEEL she was wronged not did wrong but wronged by circumstances she couldn't control.
@@Hcaz1113 cheating men do the same. Blame the wife, stress whatever bs circumstance but themselves and lack of morality. Cheaters are inexcusable no matter the sex.
You Asked Me What I'm Thinking?
I'll Tell You.... I Think.....
We're Done!!!!
Such a corny line lol
@@mattsimmons3580 true, but the biggest thing a 304 never expects is when their loyal simp of 15+ years crashes her gravy train then sets it on fire just like Ed did.
Once someone cheats don't give them a second chance dump them asap and make them learn a hard lesson in life. Once you break someone's trust it can't be put back together.
When cheating happens, trust is destroyed no matter how hard you try to restore it. Also, two other things happen when you "take back" a cheater:
1. Despite all appearances, the cheater will never respect you;
2. You will never be able to look at the cheater the same way ever again.
Move on.
She doesn't deserve Ed.....like she can just apologize it away and the arrogance that she thinks he wants to forgive her.....
@Gary Henzler Sorry, Mistake? You think cheating is a 'mistake'?
@Gary Henzler but she has responsibility within her own marriage to maintain, which is not to divulge in infidelity- it is not a mistake to go against that, she ultimately still had the decision to go forward with it or decline. Cheating, whether it be on the fault of either party, is still bad.
@Gary Henzler bruh shut the fuck up cheating isn't a mistake it's a choice you might be one of the people who cheat so you think cheating is a mistake.
@Gary Henzler cheating is never a mistake unless someone was raped or forced to partake in it,are you saying that the director forced himself on her? Couldnt she defend herself? Someone can only seduce someone when they want to be seduced,vulnerability? she is a married woman and he is a married man,she wanted to fuck someone and she did,no mistake there,she knew what she was doing and so did he,they a both pieces of shit.Never ever say that cheating is a mistake,only time it is,is when one party is forced into it by a threat or physical assault,even then its more of a crime rather than a fucking mistake.
@Gary Henzler Wow, you have such twisted views, I feel sorry for your past and future partners.
Perfect on how the affair was managed by the writers without the usual stereotypes. He never gets angry, throws or break things, threatens her, or even rise his voice.
Its a tv 📺 show very rare reaction
It's the new age thinking. Emasculate men {particularly husbands} let them suffer betrayal and humiliation, and pressure him to reconcile with the cheating slut with no atonement or comeuppance on her part....
The most realistic and Chad reaction to someone cheating on you. Walk out, no need to give her any attention any more.
Actually its very common.@@lovewhitey4462
@@garvwadhwaney306realistic irl not in tv
She has no respect for him.he does need to leave her. He's a great husband.
Side note I thought he said he needed to leave to get his "gears checked" the first time and now I see he said he needed to get his "ears checked" and yes I understand I should get my ears checked too.
He wont leave her, that would be a really firm move and this show is more focused on building up the women. I guarantee you Ed forgives her otherwise it's like Madeline "lost" and they wont write that.
Shame the writers couldnt figure out how to empower women whilst still having strong male characters
@@grapeape888 If that's really the way the writers are going about it, it would be a shame. Strong women can be at fault too. Empowering women doesn't have to mean giving them endless chances even after they are in the wrong. I honestly think Ed deserves better. Maddie isn't a bad person but she has done some bad things and that's what I liked about her. She is real, she is empathetic but she makes awful mistakes too.
@@TalkAsSoftAsChalk At what point does making awful mistakes turn into you're an awful person though? How much leeway is it exactly? you have to call a spade a spade and giving her character all this extra room to screw up doesn't help people like her. From Ed's POV, she's an awful person and deserves the title.
@@grapeape888 Yeah I agree with you. She’s an awful person. You can’t keep making mistakes and calling it mistakes. especially when you’re fully aware, what you’re is wrong ASF.
Ed is so great. Why is he shown to be such a non-desirable person on this show? Am I missing something?
amit nagpal he’s a non desirable person to Madeline only
S H hahaha. True! 😂 Ed’s desirable to me 😂 😂 I’ll take ya Ed 😂🤣
For me, as for many women, Ed is the perfect husband.
She was with the bad boy before and now Ed is the safe guy. You know how that goes.
Its a TV trope, desireable hot bad boy and the non-desireable wholesome non-problematic person which in this case, is Ed.
Brings back some very painful memories. Scars like that NEVER heal, they're just swept to the corner and resurface at certain times.
I hope you left her
The way his hands were shaking as he was talking - you could really see his anger and how hurt he was despite the fact that he wasn’t yelling or acting violent
When he started crying damn. She treats him so bad
Where are you going? "To get my ears checked."....best line EVER!
"To get my ears checked" 😅 - the nerve she had to gaslight him
Ed is one of the best things about this show. Just the right amount of snark, sarcasm, with a tsp of a-hole. My kinda guy.👍👍👍
I adore him as well and can't wait for him to get out of his wives shadow. It's all about her... However, I hope he won't cheat with Bonnie as the previous episode suggested.
Reese he is great-because while he projects the typical good husband, there’s definitely something off under the surface!
@@srkh8966 Its HBO, everyone is just a little off or bat shit insane 😂. Also, I think its the bullying in his youth and then the constant belittling from Madeleine and outright rudeness of her ex that has taken a toll on him.
Jasmine Crawford or brought it out.
he’s my fav snidefuck
This scene made me think of that quote from When Harry Sally.
"Marriages don't break down on account of infidelity. It's a symptom something else is wrong".
"Yeah? Well, that symptom is screwing my wife".
She said " I love you so much but I fucked with another man "
WHAT'S LOGIC IS THIS ?????
“This isn’t about you, this is about me…” great line, showing how selfish she it
This was a real moment… everything about it is spot on. Great acting.
the acting in this was so amazing. both of them. i loved his get his ears checked line
Adam Scott is a dual threat…he can act and he can sing high like THIIIIIIISSS
He can't sing, he lip synced
Good, I hope Madeline feels shitty. She’s treated Ed horribly.
"you said he wasn't home"
the level of deception here LOL. god, some women deserve what comes to them.
And You Know What Else.....?
We're Done!
they're both such strong actors...he kind of blows me away in this scene,,,,,he's wonderful.
Madeleine doesn't have passion or feeling of passion for Ed. It's done.
Replace passion with respect.
Marry: where are you going
Ed: to get my ears checked
Savage level 100000
God I cringed when Ed was standing behind Madeline.
Love this show
And he forgives her by the end of the show. Now that's bad writing.
@Christina Jones No it's not. Alphas are rare. Betas are a dime a dozen.
@Christina Jones Is this how you control your husband, too. You disagree with him, then before he can expound on his point of view you cut him off and end all debate? It's a pretty typical maneuver and it usually works best on betas. But it doesn't work on alphas. And alphas don't stick around after the woman they loved betrays them by fucking some other swinging dick.
@@swright1970 no man calls himself an alpha. You dudes need to stay off only fans and pornhub such weirdos.
@@marcusedwards6168 Marcus, go tell your wife's boyfriend. Because I don't give a fuck what you say.
Wow, did THAT go off the rails !
this is why madeline has always been my least favorite character. what does she mean "it's not about you?" this is just as much his marriage as much as it is hers and it's his wife that's getting nailed by the theater director. it has everything to do with him.
Yup. By her saying that, it's pure projection. She thought he was so weak and stay but then he had the audacity to get mad and leave her. Even simps have a threshold of tolerance for this when enough is enough.
Whoever wrote that dialogue nailed it.
“To get my ears checked” is such a good comeback! 😂
Lies ALWAYS come out in time. Always. And they aren't "little". Cheaters, decievers, and false-friends call them 'little'.
Now she knows she can cheat on him and he wont leave her. This is what she learned from this.
that's crazy right ..no matter how much you love a person you have to show them that you are not scared to lose them .
Anytime, for any reason, that one spouse cheats, the relationship is over. No other possibility.
the fact his hand is trembling is such a great touch
I just recently finished watching Parks and Recreation, before that however I wasn’t really familiar with Adam Scott and his work so I totally forgot that he was also in Big Little Lies. But after watching Parks and Rec and coming back to this scene? The RANGE that Adam Scott has is just incredible. You wouldn’t even believe that he caused the “Ice town” incident 😂
Here's a show full of amazing, A-List, Academy Award-winning actors and it's Adam Scott's character that makes me take the most notice. He kills it in this show.
Well, Adam Scott is also a well-known established character... You're saying as if he's a newbie or something...
@@yevgeniyaleshchenko849 Reese Witherspoon, Laura Dern, Nicole Kidman, and Meryl Streep all have Oscars. My point is that he is an amazing actor but doesn't have the reputation as these heavy hitters but still held his own.
Adam Scott dosen't looks like himself here like he did in other comedy role, really suprising
Ed is literally the sassiest guy ever lol. Adam Scott is so underrated
I don't think that's how I'd describe him or his style at all..
Ed already knew something was up after the car accident. This just gave him the proof he needed.
I didn’t know Adam Scott was in this. I just love him.
i've never not liked any of reese witherspoon's characters but ohhh man, i was looking at her with disgust! she is such a great actress oh my god i gotta watch this show
Last year.... she wasn't sorry for AN ENTIRE YEAR
Reese is a genius to hv carved out this piece.
N Ed is so captivating in this scene
While watching this, I am thinking falling out of love is understandable, feeling attracted to someone else is understandable but why cheat... Just be honest, end that relationship if you don't feel fulfilled.... Why do you need to hurt the person you once loved... Why!? For what!? Things maybe hard but you are not the only one in a relationship... Why are trying to get a revenge for nothing!?
I think people like this are just selfish... "I only need physical pleasure, I still love my husband /wife, it's a one time thing, everything is normal".. This doesn't work... What if your partner does the same or if your relatives /kids find out... Just spare yourself and others and end the relationship!!
Cheating is better because it means the person still cares about the relationship and wants to keep it alive. Breaking off the relationship straight up at the first sign of doubt is more hurtful.
@@slothrop4751 lol, it sounds like an excuse!
@@slothrop4751 bro how tf is cheating “better”. Nothing about cheating is ok
@@GabesEdtiz grow up
@@slothrop4751 it’s just common facts dude. Then again, judging by what you wrote above, you’re probably a cheater yourself so screw you
I wish the poor guy would have grown some balls and left her ass at the end of the series. She wasn't sorry for cheating on him she was sorry she got caught.
Simp chronicles
@@vaughnamir.6457 he isn’t a simp. stfu, it’s not that easy to just leave someone your married to and have a child or kids with.
@@biancarodriguez666 I don't blame you for your lack of understanding.
@@biancarodriguez666 he's a S I M P
@@mogwaiman6048 Lol how tf is somebody a simp to their wife. Stfu y’all use that word to loosely and don’t even know wtf it mean. 😑 he’s a beta-male for sure but a simp no.
I can't imagine a guy thinking of his stepdaughter as his own, loving her like that a got to know that his wife is unfaithful to him and his step daughter know about it but chooses to side with his mother instead of her father by keeping it secret from him
Not really something Madeline should've put on her child. He was mad about that too.
Why you NEVER adopt the step kid.
Imagine doing tjat,them tje single mother you rescued chests in you and now you get to pay child support for a kid you never had.
Any partner that gets caught cheating and wants to fix will have to realise that they'd literally have to spend the remainder of their lives making up for that cock up, constant reassuring, constant showing of devotion, constant thoughtful gifts and attention, giving up toxic friends, acceloting they're going to be watched all the time, questioned all the time and rightly so. They will literally live to serve the victim if they really want to fix it. If theyre caught red handed the victim will never forget the image the partner cheating and will always be reminded if that moment. A cheater 99/100 will never be fully forgiven. Maybe 80% atbest and they'll haveto accept it or move on
Twisted world, twisted love. A wife is madly in love with her husband, yet slept with another man. Upsetting.
Nothing worse than regret thats expressed only when caught.
Jesus this reminds me of the conversation i had with my ex on DDay. Ed shoulda kept walking. She isn't worth his time.
Lmao women always blurt out the truth when they mad lmao
Wow, watching this, I just relived my life from a few years ago. It sucks.
When Madeline said to get therapy, I was like stfu and stop deflecting.
Sorry but everything aside Abigail is an entitled child, whos mother is not making her accountable for any thing in her life. She doesn't even realize how privileged she is to have the means to go to any university, reminds me of parents paying for there kids to get into any school they want. Sad commentary of parents raising their children in the 21st century. Perfect example.
I think Abigail realizes her "Privilege" all to well. Which it why shes been running away from it. ...
Wow that is excellent acting. Two pro’s at the top of their craft. Bravo 👏
The most drastic scene I have seen Reece enact. Thumbs up.
I love ed even though he does seem mildly passive and always going with the flow like the psychiatrist said. But he didn’t deserve that he always stood by her
Even then the court would still rule in favor of the wife, force the husband to pay alimony and child support and dress him as the true cause behind the wife's infidelity.
If he hadn't by chance overheard them, she may have let him grow old without knowing. It would be hard to know, but better than not knowing, i imagine.
"Its not about you Its all about me ,it got nothing to do with us"
I never heard men say this ,
True. They say "you were too busy raising our kid(s) , i felt neglected" or "i'm a man, and this is normal for us"
We need counseling? You cheated so WE need counseling? No, I had no part in it. I felt that "We're Done".
It's hard to tell which is worse here Madeline cheating on her husband or the fact that she tried to negotiate marriage counseling with Ed after she acted like the affair never happened.
Adam Scott, highly underrated dudes to watch.
You Know What I'm Thinking ?
I'll Tell You What I'm Thinking....?
We're Done! 3:10
Ok dude chill everybody will read your comment now
This was so well acted.
I never understood why people loved her character she's was selfish, self righteous and she treated a good , honest loyal man like crap and millions of women loved her scray to think of that
She is strong, has a career while raising 2 kids, is a loyal friend. And what's wrong with being selfish?? For centuries women have been told that they don't matter. Having a character who shows is okay to be selfish it's a nice refreshment. As for Ed, he was a simp. Annoying, clingy and whiny. Not the kind of man a woman dreams of. He is lucky she looked at him twice
She validated them. They all do that.
No Accountability
She is beyond lucky Ed reconciled with her in the end. She didn't deserve it at all. Even in the episodes when Ed is estranged from her, she still daydreamed about the AP, never about Ed. She only had remorse after she was caught and was even yelling at Ed towards the end of the series to make up his mind. Dude was beyond decent and even had a chance to have his own affair with the wife of the guy Madeline was fucking, but turned her down. He was way better than I would have been.
Simps just keep on simpin'.
The same reason a woman would cheat on a dude like that is the same reason the dude took her back. He's weak, has no self-respect and is the perfect man to play games with for a woman.
@@mikewolverton7904 Yes writers love simping their characters.
The 🐊 tears 😭 at the end, 😆😂after, “I think we’re done”once Ed leaves applause 👏🏾.
Rather sounds like Madeline’s definition of “us” only includes her. I wouldn’t leave, I’d kick her out.
The way his hand shook had me sick
In these shows the dude always forgives them in the end, when the roles are reversed the women always finds someone "better" think they almost always normalize women cheating in marriages lol
pathetic
@@defencebangladesh4068 Fr it’s not a healthy outlook at all
They do.
That true!