Here in Central Europe we use the tedders 4 Times until it is pressed. First with high rpm at the pto to break the wax layer at the gras and than we reduce the rpm. The last time i run about 180 rpm at the pto, the hay ist not spread anymore, it is only fluffed.
You Europeans are about 10 years ahead of us in hay technology by the way. And all the GOOD stuff we have here comes from you…Claas, Pottinger, Krone, Kuhn. Though your climate must be very different than mine because on a normal weather window, I can mow on day one, Ted at noon on day two, and by day three the hay is very dry and ready to bale. On a hot mid summer window, I can mow in the morning and Ted right after, and the hay will be dry enough to bale the following day. I Ted at high rpm.
@@TheScientistHayFarmer first cut May/June 4 days and Seconds cut August 3 days. It is funny, i am a Fan of the gehl or Vermeer hay rakes but i can't find them in my country.
Similar here in New England! Sometimes first cut is just two teddings - often three for me with no conditioner. But I do the same thing with rpm’s - fast and hard at first, then gentler as it dries
rear fold tedders work just as good as the folding ones we had both in Europe, we never had sun bletched hay even after tedding right after tedding and tedding it twice a day or more, in the evening we used the tedder to make night windrows which most tedders can make if you have a reduction gearing. The star tedder was invented by a German farmer in the 1950s and went into production first by the German Company Fahr (Deutz Fahr today). Kuhn hay equipment if ya ever seen that brand is owned by the Swiss Bucher Industries
We purchased our first 4 basket 7 arm about 6 years ago, then another a year later.... We bought a 6 basket Pequea in 2021 and an 8 basket Krone this year after the Sunbelt Ag Expo The 4 basket krones covered 200 acres 3 to 4 cuts a year..... with flat tires being the only problem..... The Pequea has a miss engineered method of stabilizing the transport wheels and eats tires....... They used Plastic bushings on a fulcrum point, causing incorrect geometry and bending ...... I am correcting the proclem, so we can send it down the hiway......... Goodbye!
Well Your Video is about 8 years late,, Our First Tedder was a 4 basket Krone, Then we bought another Krone 4 basket, Then we bought a Pequea 6 basket, Last year we bought a krone 8 basket,,,, That is the cats meow........
@@danielgrandon2701 I saw you subscribe and thought “there’s another guy with the same name” but never in a million years would I have guessed you’d be watching hay farming videos!
Sucks! I blew a tire on my rear fold once on way to a field because a tine punctured it. Last year was a nightmare with my tedder in this video. I had to rebuild the entire thing.
Awesome explanation! Here in New England, there’s just no dry hay making without multiple teddings. Tedding multiple times also helps mitigate bleaching, as it evens out the sun exposure. Granted, we’re almost all grass hay here, so much less shatter issues. Great explanation about % moisture, respiration, and sugar content. Couldn’t agree more. With wet understory, I also sometimes offset slightly so one of the heads/baskets is centered on the windrow, rather than the row flowing between two. I find that maximizes the tines lowest point to the ground and misses less material that’s plastered to the ground. Again, maybe a New England problem with all of our moisture 😅 Thanks for sharing!
I ran a 2 basket for 3 years just got a new 4 basket going to use it this week I’m in Missouri I start cutting at 9 in the morning start tedding 9 the next morning or when the dew burns off can bale that evening 90 percent of the time when I don’t ted the hay it’s 2 days of drying minimum thick hay sometimes 3 or 4 days and still got wet spots Tedder are definitely worth it
not boring at all. Good job, The only problem I have now is where to find one of these. I have never seen one where I live in northern Minnesota. But we have frequent rains in June and a hay Tedder would be invaluable.
Maybe not in your direct location, but I'll gurantee they have hay tedders all the way into canada. Personally, id stay away from fb market place if your looking because a 10 year old small 2 basket tedder they ask like $2500 for. You can buy a brand new 2 basket tedder for $2500. Actually, my tonutti 2 basket was priced at $2400 and final price I got it down to $2100, brand new. I dont know what these guys on market place are thinking selling their stuff at such high prices. I could careless about brand if you look at them they are dang near built the same.
I am new to Hay, other than what I did growing up as a kid. I am just now getting my feet wet. Your video is very, very informative. I have a few hundred acres to get in order. I am looking for a tedder now. Thank you so much, from South Alabama.
Thank you sincerely for the kind words and feedback! A tedder is money well spent and can save you thousands of dollars in lost hay. A few hundred acres is a lot of hay to get started with. There’s definitely a learning curve and unfortunately experience is the best teacher. I hope you’re round baling all of that and not squares!
I bale got a guy that has a 19’ windrower. It will not dry underneath, so tedding is the only option. I try to tedd as soon as I can behind him mowing.
I think you’ll find you might get better drying and less discoloring if you wait a day and then ted. The hay will spread out better when it’s had a day to dry on the top.
I am completely self made myself. My grandparents and dad all farmed hay together but they have all died, so I’ve been in my own to learn everything on my own. Experience and research is the best teacher now.
Excellent information! Thanks for sharing. Just found your channel, new subscriber here, and fellow hay maker! Looking forward to watching more of your videos.
I have a old sitrex tedder started making a noise, it is a 4 basket, ever worked on one, trying to determine if gear box or one of the hat gear, thanks in advance.
My first tedder was a SITREX. They’re very similar to this Agco. Hard to say what the issue is without hearing the noise, but I do have another video on complete tear down of a tedder, check that out and it will give you some insight.
Awesome video. I have finally found someone with the same exact thoughts on teddering!
Here in Central Europe we use the tedders 4 Times until it is pressed. First with high rpm at the pto to break the wax layer at the gras and than we reduce the rpm. The last time i run about 180 rpm at the pto, the hay ist not spread anymore, it is only fluffed.
You Europeans are about 10 years ahead of us in hay technology by the way. And all the GOOD stuff we have here comes from you…Claas, Pottinger, Krone, Kuhn.
Though your climate must be very different than mine because on a normal weather window, I can mow on day one, Ted at noon on day two, and by day three the hay is very dry and ready to bale. On a hot mid summer window, I can mow in the morning and Ted right after, and the hay will be dry enough to bale the following day. I Ted at high rpm.
@@TheScientistHayFarmer first cut May/June 4 days and Seconds cut August 3 days. It is funny, i am a Fan of the gehl or Vermeer hay rakes but i can't find them in my country.
Similar here in New England! Sometimes first cut is just two teddings - often three for me with no conditioner. But I do the same thing with rpm’s - fast and hard at first, then gentler as it dries
Great job.👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
rear fold tedders work just as good as the folding ones we had both in Europe, we never had sun bletched hay even after tedding right after tedding and tedding it twice a day or more, in the evening we used the tedder to make night windrows which most tedders can make if you have a reduction gearing. The star tedder was invented by a German farmer in the 1950s and went into production first by the German Company Fahr (Deutz Fahr today). Kuhn hay equipment if ya ever seen that brand is owned by the Swiss Bucher Industries
As far as are concerned there is only one brand of Tedder, Krone.....
I’ve never actually seen a Krone tedder in the states.
We purchased our first 4 basket 7 arm about 6 years ago, then another a year later.... We bought a 6 basket Pequea in 2021 and an 8 basket Krone this year after the Sunbelt Ag Expo The 4 basket krones covered 200 acres 3 to 4 cuts a year..... with flat tires being the only problem..... The Pequea has a miss engineered method of stabilizing the transport wheels and eats tires....... They used Plastic bushings on a fulcrum point, causing incorrect geometry and bending ...... I am correcting the proclem, so we can send it down the hiway......... Goodbye!
Well Your Video is about 8 years late,, Our First Tedder was a 4 basket Krone, Then we bought another Krone 4 basket, Then we bought a Pequea 6 basket, Last year we bought a krone 8 basket,,,, That is the cats meow........
Thanks for sharing! Do you think a P.E. teacher could figure out how to become a hay farmer?
Sure, Anybody can!. Is this THE Daniel Grandon of DNH?
@@TheScientistHayFarmer This is DNH Daniel. Having fun watching your videos.
@@danielgrandon2701 I saw you subscribe and thought “there’s another guy with the same name” but never in a million years would I have guessed you’d be watching hay farming videos!
What do you with alfalfa hay?
You mean for tedding? Ted it while it’s still green on the same day you mowed it.
I came here from farming simulator 22
LOVE those games. I play it and the real thing :)
Ty very much!!!
I was headed out to the field with my tedder. The hydralic ram blew out the seal. I was so frustrated. It is fixed now but was not funny at the time.
Sucks! I blew a tire on my rear fold once on way to a field because a tine punctured it. Last year was a nightmare with my tedder in this video. I had to rebuild the entire thing.
Awesome explanation! Here in New England, there’s just no dry hay making without multiple teddings. Tedding multiple times also helps mitigate bleaching, as it evens out the sun exposure. Granted, we’re almost all grass hay here, so much less shatter issues.
Great explanation about % moisture, respiration, and sugar content. Couldn’t agree more.
With wet understory, I also sometimes offset slightly so one of the heads/baskets is centered on the windrow, rather than the row flowing between two. I find that maximizes the tines lowest point to the ground and misses less material that’s plastered to the ground. Again, maybe a New England problem with all of our moisture 😅
Thanks for sharing!
I ran a 2 basket for 3 years just got a new 4 basket going to use it this week I’m in Missouri I start cutting at 9 in the morning start tedding 9 the next morning or when the dew burns off can bale that evening 90 percent of the time when I don’t ted the hay it’s 2 days of drying minimum thick hay sometimes 3 or 4 days and still got wet spots Tedder are definitely worth it
Try tedding about 3 pm on the day you mow. It will dry down even faster.
Thank you for the education. I’m learning farming. Grow up on a desert ranch. And now I want to learn more.
not boring at all. Good job, The only problem I have now is where to find one of these. I have never seen one where I live in northern Minnesota. But we have frequent rains in June and a hay Tedder would be invaluable.
Maybe not in your direct location, but I'll gurantee they have hay tedders all the way into canada. Personally, id stay away from fb market place if your looking because a 10 year old small 2 basket tedder they ask like $2500 for. You can buy a brand new 2 basket tedder for $2500. Actually, my tonutti 2 basket was priced at $2400 and final price I got it down to $2100, brand new. I dont know what these guys on market place are thinking selling their stuff at such high prices. I could careless about brand if you look at them they are dang near built the same.
I am new to Hay, other than what I did growing up as a kid. I am just now getting my feet wet. Your video is very, very informative. I have a few hundred acres to get in order. I am looking for a tedder now. Thank you so much, from South Alabama.
Thank you sincerely for the kind words and feedback! A tedder is money well spent and can save you thousands of dollars in lost hay. A few hundred acres is a lot of hay to get started with. There’s definitely a learning curve and unfortunately experience is the best teacher. I hope you’re round baling all of that and not squares!
I bale got a guy that has a 19’ windrower. It will not dry underneath, so tedding is the only option. I try to tedd as soon as I can behind him mowing.
I think you’ll find you might get better drying and less discoloring if you wait a day and then ted. The hay will spread out better when it’s had a day to dry on the top.
Good information thanks for sharing not everyone has a family member that has 2 gens experience to pass on.
I am completely self made myself. My grandparents and dad all farmed hay together but they have all died, so I’ve been in my own to learn everything on my own. Experience and research is the best teacher now.
Excellent information! Thanks for sharing. Just found your channel, new subscriber here, and fellow hay maker! Looking forward to watching more of your videos.
I have a old sitrex tedder started making a noise, it is a 4 basket, ever worked on one, trying to determine if gear box or one of the hat gear, thanks in advance.
My first tedder was a SITREX. They’re very similar to this Agco. Hard to say what the issue is without hearing the noise, but I do have another video on complete tear down of a tedder, check that out and it will give you some insight.
@@TheScientistHayFarmer thanks, will do.
Does a tedder obliterate the drying leaves from alfalfa stems? Cattle love the leaves.
It will shatter dry leaves. Alfalfa needs to be Tedded the same day it’s been mowed and Ted it at a lower speed.
@@TheScientistHayFarmer That's what I was thinking. Thanks for clarifying!