How The Cycloidal Propellers Will Destroy The Aviation Industry

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  • Cycloidal propellers, or cyclo rotors, have become quite the talk of the town due to their high maneuverability and wide array of uses! Despite being considered a technological breakthrough; Cycloidal Propellers have been present since the early 20th century! After a hiatus in development of over 100 years, this radical rotor design is getting popular because of the never-ending rise of VTOL aircraft!

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  • @AnthonyBennettKY
    @AnthonyBennettKY 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +114

    If it worked efficiently and was safe & reliable it would be everywhere by now. That tells you everything.

    • @Marcel-e5h
      @Marcel-e5h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      This concept has been used as propulsion in shipping since 1926. Developed and manufactured by the company Voith in Heidenheim, Germany and called Voith-Schneider-Propeller.

    • @AnthonyBennettKY
      @AnthonyBennettKY 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@Marcel-e5h
      Agreed that it exists. Agreed that it may have specific application benefits. Mass replacement or substitution for other propulsion technologies with VSP/cycloidal propulsion is just fantasy.
      Again, 90 year old tech that is not adopted as safe, reliable, efficient, & affordable is probably not those things. Only in a corrupted government model do those technologies (safe, reliable, efficient, affordable) not rise to the top/majority of usage.

    • @Marcel-e5h
      @Marcel-e5h 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@AnthonyBennettKYYou are right👍 In Shipping it is most commonly used as propulsion on Harbour towing vehicles for beeing able to seamlessly change the vector of the propulsion. I have not heard of it for beeing better in terms of fuel consumption or sth else.

    • @adoreslaurel
      @adoreslaurel 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Marcel-e5h Please advise just which ships use it, Have not seen any evidence to date.

    • @LuvBorderCollies
      @LuvBorderCollies 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      So what did your great grandfather tell Orville & Wilbur Wright in 1902?? 😉 Just joshing. Wonder how many told the Wrights to their face they were nutty??

  • @brunonikodemski2420
    @brunonikodemski2420 หลายเดือนก่อน +34

    I have a "book" which was published in 1978, which explained pretty much everything you would want to know about Rotors. This company is trying to push a Savonius Rotor which rarely has a specific power coefficient above about 0.15, but is very good at moving large masses of material, at slow speeds (as used to position ships and oil platforms). For practical purposes, it is just an1800 paddle-wheel river boat. In contrast, the competing Darrieus Rotor (invented about 2000-years ago), has about three times the energy efficiency, but requires high speed flow from the media (wind or water). On the Inet, some companies have combined these into a single structure, to maximize the advantages of both, AND their combined power efficiency is about that of the early American Farm Turbines, used for well pumping of water. Ordinary two-blade propellers have useage coefficients of about 0.5 (as used on small airplanes), and the the better 4-to-6-blade AI designs, have useage coefficients of about 0.6-to-0.7 (as used on military heavy airplanes, and newest open-rotor designs for low-carbon airplanes). Modern electric power gathering turbines are somewhere in between, and are limited by having to be high above the ground, requiring massive towers & huge infrastructure logistics, so are limited by external factors. The CEO of the company depicted in this video is a complete idiot, and obviously not smart enough to just go look at some ancient history. We are being forced to re-live "dreams from losers" about fundamental physics. PassItOn. Please.

    • @Flash-Strike
      @Flash-Strike 14 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Very interesting do you think I can find this book?
      You say they combined in a single structure! How so? Can you provide a key-WORD ?
      Thanks mate all the Best

    • @johnlshilling1446
      @johnlshilling1446 13 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      But! But! But! There's soooo much $money$ in TH-cam videos!
      Even your comment, and mine, help monetize this guy...

    • @brunonikodemski2420
      @brunonikodemski2420 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@Flash-Strike "The Wind Power Book" by Jack Park, and "Wind Power for Your Home" by George Sullivan, ancient books, both show the basics of various wind turbines and propellers. Surprisingly, most of the old Farm Windmills had very evolved designs, since they were competing commercially. If used today, with simple multiple poles permanent magnet motors, they could gather as much power locally, as the giant turbines can do. The lack of distribution losses would make them instantly useable on farms. Non-Car lithium storage batteries can be made to have lifetimes of millions of cycles. Musk looked into this, but they cannot supply the surge current required for vehicles. Sooner or later, we will adopt a hybrid-battery-storage mentality, which can use the advantages of all of those technologies. Most of this research was done during the Jimmie Carter era, when the Gov provided funding to look at ALL alternate energy technologies. I still have a huge NARC Report, on virtually ever energy production and storage method known. It maybe available somewhere in the Gov archive bowels.

    • @Flash-Strike
      @Flash-Strike 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@brunonikodemski2420 Thank you brother! I will research as so as I eat my meal!

    • @istinaanitsi3342
      @istinaanitsi3342 5 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      в 70-х было осуществоено много прорывов в исследованиях по всему миру, но потом началась эпоха иудаизма в науке и все стоящее пришло в упадок

  • @inyobill
    @inyobill หลายเดือนก่อน +37

    Having spent many years driving next to other human beings on the roads, the thought of many of those people flying personal air vehicles gives me the screaming meemees.

    • @Israelipropaganda
      @Israelipropaganda หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It will be Cyberdyne systems controlling the flight so you should be fine, isn't that right arnold.

    • @smithjones3548
      @smithjones3548 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Israelipropaganda There will also be an onboard AI named HAL, but I understand there is a glitch with his software that prevents him from opening the doors.

    • @akmurf7429
      @akmurf7429 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      It would certainly reduce the population. better build a concrete roof on your house. they'll be falling everywhere.

  • @ianturpin9180
    @ianturpin9180 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Tugs use these propellers for their manoeuvrability. In an aircraft they are far heavier than a traditional propeller.

  • @janicereadymartcher7696
    @janicereadymartcher7696 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

    Had a toy aircraft that worked on the principle of revolving wings when used as a kite, this was in 1955. Phil.

    • @binarybox.binarybox
      @binarybox.binarybox 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I had a kite with rotating wings around the 50s...it was called Revojet.

    • @petermeyer6873
      @petermeyer6873 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@binarybox.binarybox Had the same thing in the 70s - great for kites appearently but not so great for aeroplanes, for which it had been used also in the very beginning of humans building machines that can fly. Its also good for low velocity room fans.

    • @msumungo
      @msumungo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@binarybox.binarybox Yeah, my aircraft/kite was branded Rotaflyer.

    • @q.e.d.9112
      @q.e.d.9112 6 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Yep! I remember those. I was 11 in ‘55.

  • @280zjammer
    @280zjammer หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    Any “scientist” who says electric is carbon dioxide free has lost all credibility to me.

    • @nobodyknows3180
      @nobodyknows3180 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Except for hydroelectric. Even solar and wind have an enormous carbon footprint because of what it takes to produce the components.

    • @catchnkill
      @catchnkill หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@nobodyknows3180 Hydroelectric also has carbon footprint. You need to build the dam or dams first. You need to transport a lot of concrete and steel bar for construction. There cannot be no carbon footprint. You can argue that it is smaller.

    • @babyUFO.
      @babyUFO. หลายเดือนก่อน

      well, you are basically tard then.

    • @poruatokin
      @poruatokin 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@nobodyknows3180 Only in the first cycle, and then only if using fossil fuels. Once an electric based infrastructure is built, it then provides the clean electricity for the second and subsequent generations. Already seen this in action with pure electric trucks being used to haul components for wind turbines.

    • @poruatokin
      @poruatokin 29 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Any person that thinks electricity production requires carbon has lost all credibility nowadays.

  • @raylawrence1
    @raylawrence1 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

    The efficiency of any wing-lift device relies on the minimum disc/wing loading. These stubby blades with their rapidly changing angles of attack are going to suffer from very high wing loading but also suffer from shock-stalling due to the rapidly changing angles of attack. No doubt the idea can be made to function but in my opinion it will be fearfully inefficient as a means of providing lift.

    • @mschwaller3371
      @mschwaller3371 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      very good argument ... possibly u can invent a material that handles this well but it will always be the weak-point of this tech.

    • @TicTac-g7m
      @TicTac-g7m 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah. Seems like a lot of wasted power doing what it does. And horrible during wind turbulence.
      But I don't know. Not an engineer.

    • @Ucceah
      @Ucceah 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      >we have helicopters
      >nobody:
      >this!

    • @Vladimirthetiny
      @Vladimirthetiny 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I want to hear the dBA of one of these things 😂😂😂

    • @quantumtechcrypto7080
      @quantumtechcrypto7080 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Bitcoin fuel will make it work.

  • @TheCool_Guy23
    @TheCool_Guy23 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    Can't wait to be all hype about this technology, only for the hype to die down and then to never hear about it ever again, which seems to happen an awful lot with these breaking technologies

    • @TheThetruthmaster1
      @TheThetruthmaster1 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They're too loud. I won't work

    • @joeclark7888
      @joeclark7888 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Agreed.🎯

    • @jacobuszwanenburg1629
      @jacobuszwanenburg1629 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wait ? It’s already old 😅

    • @PRH123
      @PRH123 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Especially in aviation. Someone is going to change the world every year for a hundred years. And they usually do not.

  • @mikemojc
    @mikemojc 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This presents like an info-mercial. I kept waiting for the announcer to say
    "Set it and forget it!"

  • @etyrnal
    @etyrnal 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    NO GLIDING to a safer landing... You just FAIL out of the sky

    • @Vladimirthetiny
      @Vladimirthetiny หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@etyrnal Falling = failing 🤣🤣 Gravity always wins

    • @DisposableEgo
      @DisposableEgo 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Even drag racers have parachutes. I watched the moon mission return with a parachute. Then there was that dude that jumped from the edge of zero-G...yup, parachute.

    • @PRH123
      @PRH123 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@DisposableEgo what’s the edge of zero g?

  • @briankenney4287
    @briankenney4287 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    An aircraft in a hover has a zero energy efficiency. Anything that makes lift from thrust has the same limitation. Therefore this idea is equally bad but is far worse. As stated, its limitation make more inefficient that a conventional helicopter. These designers need to understand the concept of thrust efficiency which favors the biggest propeller area, and the lowest possible thrust velocity. Sorry but this concept will ultimately fail as a practical aircraft propulsion method

    • @mattiaciani1
      @mattiaciani1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Se questo è vero, perché tutto questo sviluppo sui droni per fare riprese , rilievi, foto e quant’altro? Non si potevano già fare con un normale elicottero?

    • @cinemoriahFPV
      @cinemoriahFPV 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Not true;
      Propeller design: Quadcopters typically use smaller, more efficient propellers compared to the large main rotor of a helicopter. Smaller propellers require less power to generate the necessary lift.
      Distributed thrust: A quadcopter distributes the thrust across four motors, whereas a helicopter concentrates all the thrust on a single main rotor. The distributed design of a quadcopter is more efficient.
      Control mechanism: Quadcopters use electronic flight control systems that can precisely adjust the speed of each motor, optimizing power usage. Helicopters rely more on mechanical linkages, which are less efficient.
      Aerodynamics: The compact, symmetric design of a quadcopter has less aerodynamic drag compared to the bulky fuselage and exposed rotor system of a helicopter.
      Overall, the combination of these factors makes quadcopters substantially more energy-efficient than helicopters when carrying similar payloads. The power efficiency advantage of quadcopters is a key reason for their widespread use in commercial and recreational drone applications

    • @mattiaciani1
      @mattiaciani1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@cinemoriahFPV Grazie per la risposta, è quello che sostengo anche io.

    • @mhxxd4
      @mhxxd4 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Propellers produce less thrust towards the center, these are towards the outside

    • @quantumtechcrypto7080
      @quantumtechcrypto7080 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Maybe when they inject vaxxsheens in it it will be the most efficient aka healthy option.

  • @moodberry
    @moodberry 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I'm glad you didn't just talk about the good points, but talked realistically about the problems. One other problem you didn't mention and that I think will delay them in general aviation is that you can't retrofit them onto existing aircraft.

  • @weerolein
    @weerolein หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The cyclic pitch control in a helicopter is achieved by changing the angle of attack of the blades over the revolution of the rotor. It is controlled by the swash plate (or azimuthal star) and it is the single greatest vulnerability of a chopper.
    You want to add 4-5 of those mechanical units per rotor and 4-8 rotors per aircraft. This will give you an unprecedented chance of failure and a very short MTBF.
    Your craft may also fail catastrophically, if a single blade control unit fails. Reliability and safety are enormous concerns by drone-like designs, as they usually do not survive the failure of a single rotor drive. And you take this risk to an all new height.
    Also keep in mind that helicopters waste 10-15% of their drive power in adjusting airblades at such high speeds. And that for about 100-180 degrees of the turn, the blades are at a suboptimal angle of attack. You basically advocate for replacing the propeller of the ship by a paddle wheel again.
    Add to this, that no one needs 360 degrees thrust distribution. You need 80%-90% downwash at all times and then the rest in forward or brake thrust. Unless you aim at inverted flight you solve a problem no one has.

  • @Wesley-eu7rn
    @Wesley-eu7rn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You better wear hearing protection if you get near these cyclo rotors. I can just imagine your neighbor taking off in one of these things and waking the entire neighborhood.

    • @28russ
      @28russ หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yeah they claim they'll be quieter, but ya can see from the high rotational speed that they won't be quieter at all without even needing to hear them. 🙉🎧😂🤣

    • @brunonikodemski2420
      @brunonikodemski2420 12 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Same with any lifting air vehicle. What do people not understand about this. They cannot all be that stupid.

  • @johns1625
    @johns1625 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why have an 80 pound solid propeller with no moving parts when you can have six sixty pound propellers with hundreds of moving parts?

  • @WVMS42
    @WVMS42 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think the design might change, I saw at the beginning of the video a complex interesting design.
    Thank you for this video 👍🏻

  • @Famous-Potatoes
    @Famous-Potatoes 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    1 plane = aircraft
    Multiple aircraft = aircraft

    • @comment8767
      @comment8767 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Multiple aircraft types = aircrafts
      1 fish = fish
      multiple fish = fish
      multiple species of fish = fishes

    • @MyCatJeff
      @MyCatJeff 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Inflammable means flammable.

    • @olsonspeed
      @olsonspeed หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, aircraft!

    • @TheCool_Guy23
      @TheCool_Guy23 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Famous-Potatoes
      1 deer = deer
      Multiple deer = deer

  • @omargoodman2999
    @omargoodman2999 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'm always a big fan of cooperative hybridization. Instead of trying to fully rely on one singular method or tool as a "one-size-fits-all" solution, I prefer to employ a combination of approaches, each bringing their own particular strengths to the table and combining in such a way that the whole is greater than the mere sum of its parts.
    As such, I think the approach of using the Cyclo-Rotors to generate the _lift,_ is not a good use for them. That's not playing to their strengths properly; there are *already* far better options available to get pure lifting power. Instead, the ability to re-direct thrust should be employed in stearing and maneuvering, and maybe adding to forward movement.
    I recall seeing another company working with "off-center" propellers that were _not_ radially symmetric. I could see something like _that_ used primarily for VTol, lift, and hovering; and then employing the omnidirectional advantage of Cyclo-Rotors, maybe even scaled down since they won't need to generate full _lift,_ only maneuvering thrust, for small trajectory adjustments. And when not needed for such, they can contribute with additional forward thrust for plain ol' speed.
    Another interesting technology I recall seeing used the same principle as in a Dyson Fan. A confined fan that compressed air and sent it through a ring-shaped outlet to create a high-speed "tube" of air. This, in turn, created a low-pressure vortex which pulled in air and forced it through the ring, compressing it and increasing its speed, thus generating thrust.
    It doesn't need to be a mutually exclusive sort of "you're only allowed _one_ technology, choose wisely" matter; a good designer and engineer ought to be able to incorporate whichever and as many of these are needed to get the job done.
    I can easily conceptualize a craft using a set of asymmetrical props for VTol and primary lift and secondary forward thrust, an internal "Dyson Fan" for primary forward thrust and secondary lift, and Cyclo-Props for primary maneuvering and secondary forward thrust.

    • @brunonikodemski2420
      @brunonikodemski2420 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      All of your ideas have been tried many times. We did some. These ideas were heavily evolved in the 1970's to 1980's, untila they were exhausted, in the Jimmie Carter era. The Nazi's had a version in WW2. The movie "Avatar" shows a modern evolution, which only works in the Hollywood drug induced pipe dreams. Try it yourself in the garage, as we did for Boy Scout projects, and see why it fails.

  • @AJLaRocque54
    @AJLaRocque54 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Sorry, but I just don't get it. Everyone is talking about this "new" technology but, in 1963 my father bought me a kit based on this design. How is it that it's new technology?

  • @Crypto_Briefs_
    @Crypto_Briefs_ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    These probably would be great in thicker atmosphere like that of Venus where you could achieve good thrust at much lower RPMs. Imagine you stick these into an airliner. The amount of wear and tear in bearings, pitch control mechanism will be too much.

  • @fins59
    @fins59 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Stick the fan in a box & have it blow air out of slots in a hollow ring, call it a Dycyson.

  • @Thinks-First
    @Thinks-First หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    This is a pipe dream. It's so complex and fragile that it would never be safe or reliable for human flight. My plane has a variable pitch prop which is ridiculously simple by comparison, yet you can easily feel the massive change in force on the prop with even tiny changes in pitch. There is a point of diminishing returns in aviation, and cycloidal props are one of them.

    • @_Coffee4Closers
      @_Coffee4Closers หลายเดือนก่อน

      There is nothing any more complicated with these than your "pitchable" propeller. And using electric motors you eliminate mechanical linkages and weight. Your airplane can not take of vertically, making it useless for urban travel.

    • @Thinks-First
      @Thinks-First 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@_Coffee4Closers You clearly know nothing about aviation.

    • @_Coffee4Closers
      @_Coffee4Closers 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Thinks-First LOL, over 30 years as an Aerodynamic designer for both of the World's biggest jet engine makes would prove you wrong but OK, pal.

    • @Thinks-First
      @Thinks-First 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@_Coffee4Closers I don't believe you. Actual aviation experts would NOT use the made up and ignorant term "pitchable propeller". Someone who actually knows what they're talking about would call it a "Variable/controllable pitch propeller". Busted.

    • @_Coffee4Closers
      @_Coffee4Closers 29 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Thinks-First Believe what you want, I hold a pile of patents in Aerodynamics and engine design, I worked many military and commercial designs. If you can't understand the terms Pitchable and Propeller used in a sentence that's on you not me. The cyclonic design shown here is not meant for general "longer range" flights like your small plane, it is meant for short urban settings. Yes it is not the World's most efficient, but that is not the point. The point is the ability to maneuver in tight spots for short haul transportation. And yes these types of aircraft will find a niche market. By the way flying a plane does not mean you know anything about "Aviation" as a business model or Aerodynamics, or electronic control versus mechanical linkages.

  • @YoniBaruch-y3m
    @YoniBaruch-y3m 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Could prove the concept by building a desk fan with it.

  • @Clare-t8r
    @Clare-t8r หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Bless his heart. Still watches the JETSONS.

  • @joeclark7888
    @joeclark7888 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

    Yet another miracle that will never be seen or mentioned again.

    • @LuvBorderCollies
      @LuvBorderCollies 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      It will be mentioned again but it will be a tough road. Even towards the video end he talks about the really high speeds these units require, but those speeds tear apart the materials.
      Helicopters and auto gyros were crazy concepts at one time, especially the helo which I still don't trust especially if its a Huey operated by the US Army Guard forces.

    • @joeclark7888
      @joeclark7888 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@LuvBorderCollies I'm with you on helicopters being very dangerous. Auto-gyros are interesting and much safer.

  • @grahamkearnon6682
    @grahamkearnon6682 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Very good reason these never took off ( pun inc ) they have far to many parts with failure ever present.

  • @recoilrob324
    @recoilrob324 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Cycloidal props work well in water....not well in air as they're too small and need to spin too fast. Big thrust needs big bite and surface area engaging the air and cycloidal props just don't have it.

    • @beginnereasy
      @beginnereasy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Yeah, the moving parts in the propeller plus the vortex forces.It's just too unstable.I feel like. The only benefit it has to the propeller is no spinning blade.

    • @Vladimirthetiny
      @Vladimirthetiny หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@recoilrob324 & due to the ridiculous rotational speed the noise and gyroscopic effects would be fearsome

  • @michaelamick8295
    @michaelamick8295 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    When it gets the magic formula dialed in, it will be of interest. Until then it is only a novelty in flying machines where progress has often been measured in blood from test pilots.

    • @dancarter482
      @dancarter482 หลายเดือนก่อน

      _V22 Osprey!_

  • @jamesbooth3360
    @jamesbooth3360 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Elliptical loads create vibration. I imagine the harmonics of this design are an issue.

  • @oldgysgt
    @oldgysgt หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Safety? Using cyclo rotors for propulsion is one thing, but using them lift is another thing entirely. A fixed wing aircraft can be landed "dead stick" in the event of engine failure, and even a rotary wing aircraft can execute a autorotation landing in the event of engine failure, but an aircraft relying on cycol rotors for lift, would fall like a brick if the power source was to fail.

    • @DisposableEgo
      @DisposableEgo 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Drag racers have parachutes

    • @jonathanbrooks1857
      @jonathanbrooks1857 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

      While the concept of autorotation is well-established for conventional helicopter rotors, the application to cyclorotors is relatively newer. However, theoretical calculations and experimental tests have shown that cyclorotors are indeed capable of autorotation.
      One of the key advantages of cyclorotors is their ability to autorotate at a wide range of descent angles, including vertically. This is due to the unique design of the cyclorotor, which allows for independent control of each blade's pitch angle.

  • @hugokatz
    @hugokatz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    My dog made me watch this. I have no opinion, one way or the other. Woof.

  • @DraganTopic-t8i
    @DraganTopic-t8i 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Zasto sada ? Kad je to mnogo ranije otkriveno? Pogledajte samo Schraubergera?

  • @Homeland.
    @Homeland. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    One of these you showed looks a lot like a ancient piece in Egypt museum that nobody can figure out what it was used for.

  • @Guitar6ty
    @Guitar6ty หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cycloidal props would be ideal for airships and luxury airship cruising.

  • @tinytim71301
    @tinytim71301 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Squirrel cage fans are awesome

  • @Splash111
    @Splash111 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can't wait to see DUI with these machines.

  • @thecressonchronicle9026
    @thecressonchronicle9026 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wonder how they glide

  • @chad0219
    @chad0219 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Fantastic commercial Cyclotech.

  • @larry-s1c
    @larry-s1c หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Looks like the kind of propellers that George Jetson used in the cartoon or even Steve zodiac and the puppet cartoon Fireball xl5 😯😀👍

  • @Jason_g_kennedy
    @Jason_g_kennedy 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Love it, the rotor is carbon free, made from carbon fibre.

    • @PRH123
      @PRH123 วันที่ผ่านมา

      And it’s sustainable. It was carbon fiber yesterday, and it still is today :)

  • @shawnnelson6146
    @shawnnelson6146 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I wonder what a errant floating shopping bag would affect one of these craft if ingested?

  • @RepomanPro
    @RepomanPro หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Easy solution. Instead of Vanos veins keep them static rotate your housing as nozzles

    • @brunonikodemski2420
      @brunonikodemski2420 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Oh, Good One. I bet nobody else knows about this. Let us see in the responses. We did.

  • @Merlin3189
    @Merlin3189 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Why is cycloidal now pronounced cycloidial?

  • @daskritterhaus5491
    @daskritterhaus5491 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    how the HELL does one 'destroy' an industry . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .
    BY MAKING IT OVER 200% MORE EFFICIENT IN A VITAL PART OF IT?????????????

  • @shawnnelson6146
    @shawnnelson6146 12 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    Was there an 1873 era US navy torpedo boat (USS Alarm) that used a type of this propulsion?

  • @YoniBaruch-y3m
    @YoniBaruch-y3m 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Usefulness in densely populated areas will partly depend on how well it handles air turbulence around buildings, no?

    • @PRH123
      @PRH123 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Partly, of course. Noise is an extremely important aspect. As well as the effects of the mass of downwardly moving air it would generate.

  • @daveofyorkshire301
    @daveofyorkshire301 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The benefit of cycloidal propellers has increased with more adaptive control mechanisms, eg computerised monitoring and control.
    One flaw, no gyrorotion or auto-rotation on failure. Again you require more complex control and monitoring to even resemble a safe aircraft.

  • @jeffreynolds922
    @jeffreynolds922 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I'd like to see a working prototype.

    • @bowlweevil4161
      @bowlweevil4161 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      there have been many prototypes over the last 90 years, but none of them seems to have worked very well, if they had worked as stated here they would be flying all around us

  • @VulcanOnWheels
    @VulcanOnWheels 10 วันที่ผ่านมา

    8:09 "...expensive as all hell"? LOL

  • @aricksundberg5546
    @aricksundberg5546 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Because unguarded rotating machinery says " hey stupid touch me"

  • @piperg6179
    @piperg6179 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Follow the general rule. From pre WWI through 1960, the best technical minds and efforts in the country were devoted to aviation. They knew what they were doing and none of them opted for this propeller nor for any of the zillions of other half-baked novelties.
    In short if it was not adopted, it wasn’t worth adopting.

    • @crhu319
      @crhu319 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Same for all the "new" hydrogen and ammonia engines 😂

    • @piperg6179
      @piperg6179 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@crhu319 Absolutely. The engineers who work on engines thoroughly understand thermodynamics. They know that the combination of high energy per pound of jet fuel and the light weight of jet engines make everything else a nonstarter. Last year an amonia engine enthusiast happliy told me that amonia engines only increase the fuel load by 30%. But that would mean that a trans Pacific flight could carry no passengers. Or, i suppose, they could take out the seats and maybe carrying a few anorexic teenagers.

    • @dancarter482
      @dancarter482 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "The country" - _Really?_

    • @piperg6179
      @piperg6179 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@dancarter482 probably the best engineering in the WORLD. Two pieces of evidence. WWI was fought with biplanes…WWII was fought by P51s, Zeros and ME109s. AND 2, the modern jet plane and the old C130 did not appear by magic.

    • @dancarter482
      @dancarter482 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@piperg6179 Mitchel (Spitfire) English. Whittle (Jet) English. Rolls/Royce (Merlin engine used in the P51 etc.) English. W.von Braun (Rockets) German.

  • @SaintsofAvalon
    @SaintsofAvalon หลายเดือนก่อน

    Had a kids toy in the 70's that was based on a plastic plane body with a set of these rotors on and worked like a kite , flew way better than a std kite and looked way cooler .

  • @sevenhundredspiders8863
    @sevenhundredspiders8863 4 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I would have watched this video if the audio levels were more balanced

  • @thomasmaughan4798
    @thomasmaughan4798 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Will Destroy The Aviation Industry"
    At my age, I no longer need to fly anywhere.

    • @ArthurTanner-d7s
      @ArthurTanner-d7s หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wouldn’t worry, nobody is going to be flying anywhere with this nonsense.

  • @safetychuck2
    @safetychuck2 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How loud is it?

  • @DrCorvid
    @DrCorvid 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Similarly, a crossflow hydro turbine is a real good design for water :)

  • @sreynolds777
    @sreynolds777 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I am so glad that I skipped to the end after watching for a couple moments 😂😂😂

  • @T1000mileman
    @T1000mileman หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm imagining the glide path if it loses power. Yikes.

  • @davidmiller8609
    @davidmiller8609 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about for Windmills?

  • @greggacek1655
    @greggacek1655 15 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I guess they never heard of Occam's Razor. That is one complicated propeller.

  • @oldrrocr
    @oldrrocr หลายเดือนก่อน

    you're not going to have flying cars until FSD is perfected.

    • @PRH123
      @PRH123 วันที่ผ่านมา

      would be FSF, and in other words, never

  • @eastwest1362
    @eastwest1362 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Marine versions look incredibly vulnerable to damage - which will be catastrophic and irrecoverable as the blades systematically destroy each other.

    • @deldridg
      @deldridg 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not to mention the capacity to damage wildlife.

  • @stephenpadley6684
    @stephenpadley6684 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If we applied this to a racing car wheel, with rubber either side of the wheel, with the blades in the middle, will this increase the drivers thrust.

  • @martinwilliams9866
    @martinwilliams9866 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I sometimes wonder whether a screw shaped rotating magnetic field might also work?

    • @AlephCasara
      @AlephCasara 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Pilot here, cant really see how

    • @YoniBaruch-y3m
      @YoniBaruch-y3m 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      In a plasma environment, or ionized solution in liquid maybe?

  • @ruariniall7463
    @ruariniall7463 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Actually, every detail of this propeller was developes in the 19th century to propell paddlewheel steamships.

  • @edbutler9520
    @edbutler9520 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Being CO2 free is unimportant. Safety is paramount.

  • @millardmoore479
    @millardmoore479 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the beginning you said they create high thrust at a very low rotation , then in the end , you said one of there downfalls is because of the high rotation ?

  • @j.m.harris4202
    @j.m.harris4202 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How about Cyclorotors for Wind Power Generators!

  • @burnerjack01
    @burnerjack01 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Turn these sideways and that’s what many high tech tug boats are using. 360 degree thrust vectoring instantly.

  • @gerrittenberkdeboer7763
    @gerrittenberkdeboer7763 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    you will never get rid of the axel bending

  • @markyanh6630
    @markyanh6630 หลายเดือนก่อน

    GREAT

  • @metronistronn
    @metronistronn 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how loud are they

  • @LBernius
    @LBernius หลายเดือนก่อน

    Last century mechanic nightmare

  • @alanthorpe2022
    @alanthorpe2022 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Right, let's get this sorted now... Is the voiceover pronouncing it incorrectly or should it be spelled 'cycloidial'?

  • @colinbyerly5212
    @colinbyerly5212 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Reminds me of the Mazda rotary motor . That I truly enjoyed without any needed motor work and sold it still in perfect running shape for a large farm truck . But was truly happy to have such a perfect fast running car that only the breaks and a battery work besides tires and oil change for 16 years . I hope this would also help in perhaps providing electricity as well as a light weight motor configuration in the propeller. As it’s very smooth running through five gears manual transmission. That allowed better snow front wheel use that ran around many cars crashing on Colorado hills with over a foot snow and Ice conditions. Having all weather tires as well as the weight over the front wheel drive was like a four wheel vehicle somehow . Anyway this new use of the blades may be a great investment as costs go up and alternative use techniques are having to be revisited especially with new materials and manufacturing printing parts that allow automatic driving car technology more adaptable especially if they are able to be quiet in normal use .

  • @abvmoose87
    @abvmoose87 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I cant imagine it being able to lift much compared ro normal rotors

  • @ColdWarSubSailor_-
    @ColdWarSubSailor_- หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe the Police Spinner from Blade Runner is not far off?

  • @MagnetOnlyMotors
    @MagnetOnlyMotors 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fabulous idea, but the video wastes time talking about the past. Talk about the future uses. 😊😊

  • @JustBadMeAndI
    @JustBadMeAndI หลายเดือนก่อน

    At first they are extremely optimistic, then reality sets in when the disadvantages are mentioned 🤷‍♂️

  • @johnnyb3987
    @johnnyb3987 14 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    The only thing those things will destroy is everything around them when they explode.

  • @johnmartin3517
    @johnmartin3517 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    how about using that for a wind turbine?

  • @Ruebengericht
    @Ruebengericht 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    219% more thrust is a highly misleading term. A regular propeller can easily reach an efficiency of >85%. A variable pitch propeller can achieve this high efficiency over a huge range of velocity.

  • @ruthdoyle9085
    @ruthdoyle9085 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can these be used in water?

    • @jonp8015
      @jonp8015 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes, starting at 4:11 the video goes over them extensively.

  • @Fossilphill
    @Fossilphill หลายเดือนก่อน

    It sounds like it would be more suited to the renewable energy sector, as a V.A.W.T.

  • @frankmccann29
    @frankmccann29 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Neat.

  • @eleazarsoto7830
    @eleazarsoto7830 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Cool and all.... but, what happens when a bird goes into one?

  • @countrycarpenter7819
    @countrycarpenter7819 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    SQUARL CAGE

  • @turdferguson4447
    @turdferguson4447 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Looks like an old steamboat wheel lol

  • @ericjoelbarragangonzalez6403
    @ericjoelbarragangonzalez6403 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Los rusos siempre han sido muy creativos en sus soluciones, pero la visión torcida de EEUU e Inglaterra, ha frenado al mundo, segado y nublado la visión y la tecnología

    • @ericjoelbarragangonzalez6403
      @ericjoelbarragangonzalez6403 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Gracias a Dios están en decadencia, y el mundo pronto podrá vivir libre de su oscurantismo y violencia, y florecer en prosperidad

  • @landen99
    @landen99 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Inefficient indeed! Just get a helicopter.

  • @YoniBaruch-y3m
    @YoniBaruch-y3m 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Usefulness in densely populated areas will partly depend on how stably it handles air turbulence around buildings, no?

  • @CaptnJack
    @CaptnJack หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im surprised that they havent made them so they retract into the crafit when not needed. Or have they?

    • @PRH123
      @PRH123 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Sure, more mechanical complexity and weight. Would be even less capable of carrying any useful load. When would they not be needed?

  • @SnowTiger45
    @SnowTiger45 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I'm not to fond of the open blade ship propellers. I see those as being Whale Killers. I think Azipods and Bow Thrusters are more efficient and don't require addition draft depth.

    • @joewoodchuck3824
      @joewoodchuck3824 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Statistics on the whales injured by propellers please

    • @Arturo4586
      @Arturo4586 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SnowTiger45 Some do have a disk shaped lower cover,

    • @PRH123
      @PRH123 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@joewoodchuck3824always amusing to see comments demanding annotated footnotes and a bibliography to a u tube comment

    • @joewoodchuck3824
      @joewoodchuck3824 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@PRH123 Demand? I asked neutrally and with a please. That offends you somehow?
      Maybe I should be offended with a misguided accusation. Go back to reading comic books in your parents basement.

    • @PRH123
      @PRH123 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@joewoodchuck3824 I said amused, not offended. And you did indeed request him to provide you with data. That’s not an accusation of any kind, just an observation, that is indeed amusing.
      As far as your basement comment, if you would like to insult someone you really should be move creative than using that very old and very standard internet meme :)

  • @Freedom2x462
    @Freedom2x462 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

    why not close the gaps between foils, just like the impellers in air-conditioner fans, maybe it will be more efficient! might be resulting slower cycling but more force out

  • @beginnereasy
    @beginnereasy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I think a flapper that folds up ^ and then flattens down _

  • @TriFiveAviator
    @TriFiveAviator 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    No. Maybe for small drones or possible wind turbines.

  • @oldsam775
    @oldsam775 2 วันที่ผ่านมา

    It irritates the hell out of me that the narrator keeps saying "cycloid-EE-al". It is "cycloid-AL."

  • @JudicialMaxim
    @JudicialMaxim วันที่ผ่านมา

    1:38 самолёт (samoLYot) translates (and means) as airplane

  • @gorgonbazil2652
    @gorgonbazil2652 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These propellers are not a technological breakthrough, they have been using them on tugboats for over 30 years!

    • @randal_gibbons
      @randal_gibbons หลายเดือนก่อน

      Exactly! I saw one the other day flying over a job site I was at.

  • @Haroun-El-Poussah
    @Haroun-El-Poussah หลายเดือนก่อน

    With the burgeoning of industrial production of graphene in the EU, metal fatigue on the rotors will history.
    When it comes to security issues, c'mon, never heard about BRS (ballistic Recovery System)? It's already mandatory on light aircraft in several countries