Every time I read a few dozen lines of Whitman, I have to just put it down and say to myself "Woh!" Reading Whitman, my perspective is always widened, and I am always stunned by his simple directness.
By luck,this video was in my recommendations. The reason why,I loved Whitman and his poems (I read few of his poems). I am a poem enthusiast and I am planning to become a poet. I written few of my poems (thanks to my high school teacher,Mrs. Belford,who encouraged me to my first poem)… Oh and I happen to have three of Shakespeare's plays and I am currently reading "Hamlet" and I am on Act II.
Thank you for posting this thought-provoking presentation (including the helpful introductory remarks). If possible, please provide the date of the lecture and the name of the Professor who began the Intro (Andre ______?).
A great scholar, Bloom, however I would have much rather he spoken to us, rather than just reading from an essay. Bloom wrote the intro to the anniversary ed. of Leaves of Grass. I highly recommend it.
This was worth it just for the aside at 17:34. If that's not sublime I don't know what sublimity is, poetic or otherwise: As one who hadn't much need, until midlife, to supplement comedy's medicine with poetry's, I find it quite beyond my experience in its degree, if not in kind, and so never attempt a line unless I'm feeling potent enough to spare some of that energy for the benefit of someone else, who needs it more than I do, whatever could have made them weary or afraid---provided, that is, that they're not too far gone for such things to be effective, in which case the best I can do is look away, and not dwell too much on the image of anyone whose mind is in a state of ruin beneath consolation. Or to vary one of Berowne's themes, that would be too bad for a play, if I went there.
James Roach I got a chuckle out of this. Not because what you said isn't of substance, but because it looks so much like an amphetamine fueled deluge of jouissance. Thinking for the sake of thinking with so much to say whether anyone is listening or not.
Peter Kramer There are many experiences we seek for their own sake, without regard to whether someone else can participate in them. It is as unhealthy to deny them, as it is to suspect all such things of being pathological, and a touch sinister to insinuate that they are.
Peter Kramer Not to construe a hard drug reference made in such a context as a negative insinuation, would be the rare exception, whether or not the writer meant to offend. My stance is better characterized as wary: The friendlier the approach, the friendlier my response. I'm a playful fellow but I basically don't like rough play. Skittish would be apt too! People who are disposed to spontaneous episodes of euphoria, especially under the spell of soaring music, are also more disposed to flight rather than fighting, and have more of the evasiveness of birds. Poets of the sky, like Lucretius or Stevens, or anyone who fancies aviation, elevated diction, and movies stronger on atmosphere than action, also more resemble Ariel, as far as human natures go. As for amphetamine fueled tone, in writing or in speech, I associate it with the the caustic eloquence of satire run amok, probably because of the novel Tim & Pete, in which a certain Glenn, ringleader of a band of gay terrorists, indulges in violent fantasies out loud, to an effect that is perfectly hilarious if you're in the mood. Who's Afraid Of Virginia Woolf? is something I also associate with the pleasures of witnessing psychological trainwrecks, though liquor is the fuel there.
Wow... ten and a half minutes of introduction. Unnecessary. Do these minor academics realize the best way to start a program is, "Ladies and gentlemen, Harold Bloom." Done. Get on with it.
+Wolf Williams No joke. I watched a lecture by Fredric Jameson a few weeks ago, and they had not one, but two introductions, the first guy more or less introducing the second, whom in turn took his sweet time introducing Jameson. It was comically annoying.
I mean these aren't made as youtube videos, they are made for their school so within the context these are teachers speaking to their students. I think the students seeing what their teachers have to say about the person getting up to speak, contextualizing it a bit for them, might be very helpful. Sure, you who search for this video already know who bloom is and what he does or is supposed to mean to you, but these students might not and might benefit from the intros.
Native Soul No........... If students can't do their homework and learn about a speaker as well-known as Bloom, then that's their problem. "Ladies and gentlemen, Harold Bloom" is all that's required. Trim the fat and get down to it.
Wolf Williams Lol you act like English majors actually like to read.. Look I'm someone who has been studying literature, criticism and philosophy all on my own for something like 6 years now. I never went to a fancy school, or any school at all, to learn this shit, but I taught myself to read Derrida and Lacan and post-colonial criticism and everything else I could get my hands on, of course, including Bloom. And now I'm in uni, and I'm surrounded by English majors who don't even like reading! It's crazy they can't even be bothered with the most basic theoretical texts and they complain that it's too hard, and I want to tell them like yo, I suffered for this shit, with no one behind me making me do it, just so I could educate my damn self you have no excuse... But it is what it is. You have to sell the students on why it's important so they could pay attention to it. Plus it's just tradition lol. One that goes way back. Personally, 10 min. is not too much of my time to hear a world class scholar who most of society doesn't even recognize, let alone recognize as important, get the respect he's due.
I think Walt is one of the greatest poets to walk the earth and this has shown me that bloom is most self absorbed and a great source for hearing about himself. i bet he would love it if walt would go on and on about him.
You can find this lecture, rather modified, as the chapter on Walt Whitman from Prof. Bloom's book 'The Deamon Knows Literary Greatness and the American Sublime.'
There's a jazz concert from Germany back in the '80s when the introductory speaker droned on and on forever and Jackie McLean the master sax player and jazz leader just cut him off by counting off the band and they started playing over his boring ass. Wish somebody had done this here. Nobody cares for all this tedious set up and organizational self-puffery. A note of suggestion to any universities/institutions who have distinguished guest speakers.
To speak about Whitman is to speak of American politics. Bloom reminds us that critics aren't just there to point out how amazing a line break may be or a metaphor might be, but WHY the work/poetry is relevant to us. He makes excellent points about American religious fervor in reflection of Whitman's work.
Extra- textuality inappropriate to his literary theory that a literary text should be read as a literary text. Why dismiss the leftist critical theorist if you yourself can't suppress the vice of fusing aesthetics and politics?
This is sooooo disappointing; reading a paper on a topic like this; sooooooo typical of this old school teachers/critics! Reminds me of one of the most hyped professor at the English department during the 1990s and he was no better than a record machine. Utterly bored me to ............
Your superficial opinion about not lisenting neither understanding Bloom is much more about what he thinks about de USA emptiness. What a shame and what reality!!
Too much moralizing like T. S. Elliot, the self-proclaimed vanguard of elitist Western canon ans conservative tradition. In Elliot's " Tradition and Individual Talent" explicitly expressed the Intellectual legacy of F. H. Bradley in influencing his philosophy of regressive history because the Absolute is in the past already and we as mere minor individuala enriching the Western canon provided the gascist priest of the dead language of literature because of Bloom's misreading of the tradition je spawned as a professor.
Spouting cliches devoid of meaning cannot entice yout reader to het the richness of the ant he obsevef whose busy trade enticed him. Bloom is disappointing.
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Lecture starts at 10:50
Thanks. The verbal tedium beforehand is ridiculous.
Its a privelage to be able to watch one of the most prominent Literature scholars of our time.
Re-examine all that you have been told... dismiss that which insults your soul.
Walt Whitman
Good art is always about poetry... elevating the mundane to something dance-like / sublime
I just heard. He was sort of a wise old dad to me when I needed it when young. RIP HB.
One of Bloom’s most heartfelt lectures. Thank you for this.
There is a pompous interminable introduction lasting 10 minutes, skip it, and go to the chase.
+Carlos A. Del Valle Cruz Yes...we call that intellectual masturbation.
lol
Wow. You weren't kidding. I only watched the intro(s) because you told me not to. You were right. It was literally ridiculous.
I enjoyed it.
@@PassingMaxQYour defiance is admirable, so is your ability to admit you were wrong
go direct to 10:20
Great, Walt Whitman! Beautiful tribute❤
Every time I read a few dozen lines of Whitman, I have to just put it down and say to myself "Woh!" Reading Whitman, my perspective is always widened, and I am always stunned by his simple directness.
Beautiful lecture and tribute to Walt Whitman
By luck,this video was in my recommendations. The reason why,I loved Whitman and his poems (I read few of his poems). I am a poem enthusiast and I am planning to become a poet. I written few of my poems (thanks to my high school teacher,Mrs. Belford,who encouraged me to my first poem)…
Oh and I happen to have three of Shakespeare's plays and I am currently reading "Hamlet" and I am on Act II.
you will never be poet idiot
very funny......
@@oggio7361 man, bet you're inbred
@@YO3A007 No wonder your parents doesn't love you 🙃
@ 24:37 Damn, what a critique
Truly sorry to have missed the afterparty
Sheer brilliance. Get this man a Nobel!!
Wonderful, thanks for posting!
"Walt failed better." Awesome. :)
Thank you for posting this thought-provoking presentation (including the helpful introductory remarks). If possible, please provide the date of the lecture and the name of the Professor who began the Intro (Andre ______?).
Brilliant lecture !
Sjovt at den eneste kommentar herinde er dansk!
Soeren Oe C World-renowned Danish wit strikes again.
I agree : well written and well delivered.
Prophetic in his likening of the first Gilded Age that Whitman lived through to the second Gilded Age we're living through now.
A great scholar, Bloom, however I would have much rather he spoken to us, rather than just reading from an essay. Bloom wrote the intro to the anniversary ed. of Leaves of Grass. I highly recommend it.
Interesting lecture
For a quicker introduction to the great poet check out this play:
www.amazon.com/Unlaunchd-Voices-Walt-Whitman/dp/1456554689
This was worth it just for the aside at 17:34. If that's not sublime I don't know what sublimity is, poetic or otherwise: As one who hadn't much need, until midlife, to supplement comedy's medicine with poetry's, I find it quite beyond my experience in its degree, if not in kind, and so never attempt a line unless I'm feeling potent enough to spare some of that energy for the benefit of someone else, who needs it more than I do, whatever could have made them weary or afraid---provided, that is, that they're not too far gone for such things to be effective, in which case the best I can do is look away, and not dwell too much on the image of anyone whose mind is in a state of ruin beneath consolation. Or to vary one of Berowne's themes, that would be too bad for a play, if I went there.
James Roach I got a chuckle out of this. Not because what you said isn't of substance, but because it looks so much like an amphetamine fueled deluge of jouissance. Thinking for the sake of thinking with so much to say whether anyone is listening or not.
Peter Kramer There are many experiences we seek for their own sake, without regard to whether someone else can participate in them. It is as unhealthy to deny them, as it is to suspect all such things of being pathological, and a touch sinister to insinuate that they are.
James Roach Where did I insinuate a pathology? It seems your default posture is of defense.
Peter Kramer Not to construe a hard drug reference made in such a context as a negative insinuation, would be the rare exception, whether or not the writer meant to offend. My stance is better characterized as wary: The friendlier the approach, the friendlier my response. I'm a playful fellow but I basically don't like rough play. Skittish would be apt too! People who are disposed to spontaneous episodes of euphoria, especially under the spell of soaring music, are also more disposed to flight rather than fighting, and have more of the evasiveness of birds. Poets of the sky, like Lucretius or Stevens, or anyone who fancies aviation, elevated diction, and movies stronger on atmosphere than action, also more resemble Ariel, as far as human natures go.
As for amphetamine fueled tone, in writing or in speech, I associate it with the the caustic eloquence of satire run amok, probably because of the novel Tim & Pete, in which a certain Glenn, ringleader of a band of gay terrorists, indulges in violent fantasies out loud, to an effect that is perfectly hilarious if you're in the mood. Who's Afraid Of Virginia Woolf? is something I also associate with the pleasures of witnessing psychological trainwrecks, though liquor is the fuel there.
I like you, James. Stay you.
after 5 minutes when he was introducing another speaker who was not the lecturer, I gave up!
That's too bad.
Ulen Grau Go to 10:25. :) Enjoy
Maltese Crimea By Pius II From The Photograph Of Walt Whitman
Wow... ten and a half minutes of introduction. Unnecessary. Do these minor academics realize the best way to start a program is, "Ladies and gentlemen, Harold Bloom." Done. Get on with it.
+Wolf Williams No joke. I watched a lecture by Fredric Jameson a few weeks ago, and they had not one, but two introductions, the first guy more or less introducing the second, whom in turn took his sweet time introducing Jameson. It was comically annoying.
+Peter Kramer the one on dual power
I mean these aren't made as youtube videos, they are made for their school so within the context these are teachers speaking to their students. I think the students seeing what their teachers have to say about the person getting up to speak, contextualizing it a bit for them, might be very helpful. Sure, you who search for this video already know who bloom is and what he does or is supposed to mean to you, but these students might not and might benefit from the intros.
Native Soul No........... If students can't do their homework and learn about a speaker as well-known as Bloom, then that's their problem. "Ladies and gentlemen, Harold Bloom" is all that's required. Trim the fat and get down to it.
Wolf Williams Lol you act like English majors actually like to read.. Look I'm someone who has been studying literature, criticism and philosophy all on my own for something like 6 years now. I never went to a fancy school, or any school at all, to learn this shit, but I taught myself to read Derrida and Lacan and post-colonial criticism and everything else I could get my hands on, of course, including Bloom. And now I'm in uni, and I'm surrounded by English majors who don't even like reading! It's crazy they can't even be bothered with the most basic theoretical texts and they complain that it's too hard, and I want to tell them like yo, I suffered for this shit, with no one behind me making me do it, just so I could educate my damn self you have no excuse...
But it is what it is. You have to sell the students on why it's important so they could pay attention to it.
Plus it's just tradition lol. One that goes way back. Personally, 10 min. is not too much of my time to hear a world class scholar who most of society doesn't even recognize, let alone recognize as important, get the respect he's due.
nice bloom.
Dr. Bloom says he has not written poetry and will not, then proceeds to talk about how Lear and Macbeth inhabit the Gnostic pleroma
:)
“The function of the sublime is to liberate us from the slavery of pleasure.”
I got to about the 28 minute mark before I had to return it to the dusty shelves of someone else's library.
I think Walt is one of the greatest poets to walk the earth and this has shown me that bloom is most self absorbed and a great source for hearing about himself. i bet he would love it if walt would go on and on about him.
Does anyone know if there is a transcript of this lecture available anywhere? Thanks.
You can find this lecture, rather modified, as the chapter on Walt Whitman from Prof. Bloom's book 'The Deamon Knows Literary Greatness and the American Sublime.'
11:00
omg. is this THE André Aciman?
edit: Of course it is.
Not a ton of Whitman here-- damn tea party.
There's a jazz concert from Germany back in the '80s when the introductory speaker droned on and on forever and Jackie McLean the master sax player and jazz leader just cut him off by counting off the band and they started playing over his boring ass. Wish somebody had done this here. Nobody cares for all this tedious set up and organizational self-puffery. A note of suggestion to any universities/institutions who have distinguished guest speakers.
Here again, this time on Walt’s 200th Birthday!
Intros are for the egos of the university structure--as the Chinese say, 'drop your head and move on.'
I thought it was just me.
@@TimGreig no indeed!
Ten and a half minutes of introduction. Absolutely ridiculous. I was seriously concerned that someone's head may disappear up their own ass.
38:15
Word salad...
none such soup..
not a ballad
not a sloop...
What is it then?
If not a hoop
and holler
Walt's ruffians say,
"It's hard to swaller..."
skip the jibber jabber and go directly to 10 minutes, 30 seconds.
Where and when was this lecture given?
Came here from breaking bad.
Fun game: Whenever he says Hart Crane, drink. Wallace Stevens, drink. Emerson, Drink.
Why the obnoxious political interruptions? He is lecturing on Whitman. What makes him an expert on American politics?
To speak about Whitman is to speak of American politics. Bloom reminds us that critics aren't just there to point out how amazing a line break may be or a metaphor might be, but WHY the work/poetry is relevant to us. He makes excellent points about American religious fervor in reflection of Whitman's work.
Extra- textuality inappropriate to his literary theory that a literary text should be read as a literary text. Why dismiss the leftist critical theorist if you yourself can't suppress the vice of fusing aesthetics and politics?
This is sooooo disappointing; reading a paper on a topic like this; sooooooo typical of this old school teachers/critics! Reminds me of one of the most hyped professor at the English department during the 1990s and he was no better than a record machine. Utterly bored me to ............
Hahaha OK buddy, Harold Bloom bored you 😂
Your superficial opinion about not lisenting neither understanding Bloom is much more about what he thinks about de USA emptiness. What a shame and what reality!!
Bloom begins ten minutes in, after the absolutely unnecessary and obsequious introduction
Critics cannot teach, they beat around the hedges , lower the degree of intensity of the elements of literature
I’m sorry, I’d rather just read the paper than have it read to me this way
I agree! I have also discovered that I don't enjoy audio books! For one thing, reading is faster! Also you don't miss a single word!
Too much moralizing like T. S. Elliot, the self-proclaimed vanguard of elitist Western canon ans conservative tradition. In Elliot's " Tradition and Individual Talent" explicitly expressed the Intellectual legacy of F. H. Bradley in influencing his philosophy of regressive history because the Absolute is in the past already and we as mere minor individuala enriching the Western canon provided the gascist priest of the dead language of literature because of Bloom's misreading of the tradition je spawned as a professor.
This is
Obsessive Compulsive
WORD-GLUTTONY 👈
eating with a scalpel
eating with a hatchet
" Ate-em-Ology"
Not interested in the pretentious, bullshit introductions. I thought I was going to hear some guy talk about Walt Whitman.
Yeah, Whitman articulated rich details making his poetry stimulating unlike that Medieval -like sermonizing.
Spouting cliches devoid of meaning cannot entice yout reader to het the richness of the ant he obsevef whose busy trade enticed him. Bloom is disappointing.
Windbag---not appropriate for this media.