When is was 7 years old i broke my bike. So, i asked my dad to fix it. But he didnt do it. He said, i want you to understand the problem and then describe to me what you think a solution could be and then i help you. That was very hard for me to do and after hours of frustration, i had sort of a plan and also asked him for tools. He gave me everything i needed and i fixed it, without his help at all. I was very proud and happy that evening. When i was 18 i wanted to have a car but i had very little money. You can imagine that i didnt dare to ask my parents for it. Instead i found i a car on a scrapyard. So i presented the idea to my parents the plan to buy that pos and asked for tools to restore it. They agreed but said it is your project and you are in charge. My dad and i spent weeks restoring it and i learned how to weld, how to tear apart an engine etc. What did i learn from my dad? Target oriented problem solving, project managent, creative thinking and many more things. It is basically the foundation of my career as an engineer. The college degree contributed to learning the tools. But the mindset was formed by my parents 100%. Greetings from Germany
Fellow engineer here. Fixing something that is broken is the second best feeling in the world. Creating a new solution is the best feeling in the world. Sex and drugs are well and good, but mastery over the physical universe is on another level. It's like giving a big middle finger to entropy itself. That's the only way I can describe it. "You don't get to be broken. I will fix you against your will."
I'm italian, i learned english 'cause 'video games. I wanted to understand what all the NPCs in those role playing games were saying. So english was a tool i needed, and with time i became quite fluent in It.
Same, but with Magic and Pokémon cards in elementary school. I wanted to know what the cards I played with did. Having a why is the best motivator to find a how.
This is what I tell people all the time when they asked me about learning languages, if you're put in the situation where you need to ask where the bathroom is, order the food you want, etc ... it actually takes very little effort. I learned more language sitting on a barstool than I ever did in class.
I was spending so much time learning about random things that I found interesting on TH-cam and in books that I went back to school which has significantly slower my education.
This really is important. And what the US was built on. Which is why we need to smash the current patient system and turn it up to 11 on right to repair laws. Make it en vogue to be a nerd. A car, carpentry, or computer geek (etc). Doesn't matter. Poke tf outta dat bear.
Absolutely, I’m planning to start self-educating myself within a few weeks. I remember 5 years ago I was still on the right tract and learning substantial amounts of useful stuff. However after I transferred into a different school I started to fail ever since and I think the most important component of learning new things and applying those concepts is through the means of self education and self adaptation, because for me 5 years after I dropped out of my first school I decided that I needed to change the way I perceive information and the way my original brain functioned that way I changed myself through learning from failures to ultimately become a better version of myself.
He has much lower chance to become who he is than you become who you are. You should bet your money on education (except Liberal Arts though) if you are not a born gambler. The students should have learned about it in the math class.
Can you imagine living in a world where there are no schools and universities but just “education “ that too all kinds of education that prepares you for the “real world “ from an early age .
Well they change the curriculum too. Look at all the books they are cancelling now if you paid for a university education it does not even mean your skills remain relevant in 10 years. So that is disappointing. Meanwhile trade schools get frowned on?
@@AnnaLVajda if you know someone who needs skills for work i have everything a person needs to get started in a path in injection molding. They just need to formulate the plan they want for their carrear and yes i cannot spell lol but im working on it because information is key
And i love jobcorps so i dont let someone frown on that please i went their for plumbing when i was 16 didnt learn much but it showed me the path to secuss and i got lost but we all are hahah too bad its out owm job to figure out whay that means to us
Schools need to start teach students the WHY before the HOW. I don't want to learn how to solve an algebraic equation before knowing why I want to do it.
In my coaching class of 40+ students, I was the only one who actually ASKED, as to WHY we were doing what we were doing, WHY we need to solve that matrix, WHY do we need to know what a magnetron does, WHY are we studying the effects of global warming, etc etc The children actually don't care , they just wanna finish the syllabus to pass their exams. School stomps the natural, inborn, questioning nature of children, and converts them into mindless worker bees.
@@aarohansharma4551 yes the education system has turned the children into robots so now these kids don't even question anymore about anything. Before quarantine, i felt my brain was stuck Now I feel more curiosity and refreshment in my brain because of stopping the study
@@randomuser5780 yes that's true...when you start looking around, there are so many things you want to know...from learning how your AC works, mechanisms of the engine used in your car, importance of economics in our daily life, the quirks of a language. I mean not only STEM subjects, but everything around you. When you get that curiosity, you *want* to learn. Then school comes in, where you *have* to learn.
My son interned at Tesla Design Center when he was 20 years old. He learned more about designing cars while helping me at the junkyards removing parts & rebuilding wrecked cars than years of schooling in elementary, middle, high school & his years in college.
Obviously the Tesla center didn't teach him the basic English and math to understand the upper level designs. Basic schools are important and necessary to lay the ground work. There's also a value in education that is more than just fixing cars and working at a job. it's about learning to become a well rounded individual. I think you ought to go back to college or at least read more books.
@V763JI - University of Washington but he was in the Formula SAE club where the team competed against some of the best engrg schools in the world & the team finished 1st in the US & 2nd in the world in 2019 at the competition in Nebraska.
And your son learned more while in school, because you showed him a purpose and use for that education. I am an automotive engineer with over 50 patents, and grew up like your son, the experiences you shared with him were more valuable than college. Educators work in a bubble disconnected from industry .. what they provide is NOT what industry needs ... I interview hundreds of engineering applicants, and the first question I ask is what related hobbies/interests they had growing up .... ONLY a handful make it past that question.
School is just a filter .. The government LOVES psychopaths so premotes them to the best paid jobs .. And anyone who shows skills higher than psychos are pushed down and failed by this BASTARD system
First, I say education is a waste of time and space on top of “money” as per a comment I read recently since people are hired by whether they fit in with the rest of a team or a job. Just as in an acting role whether they fit the part. Regardless, it is what children are learning at home that is useless and nevermind “making money” it’s not important NEWSFLASH IT’S NOT REAL the system merely isn’t willing to acknowledge that because supposed leaders want their overpaid big fat bucks as illegit. You let your system decide what your child learns WTH for when it should be learning realistic skills. You are slave to a system that is all. Children don’t even learn to write anymore just so they can be monopolized by software developers and waste a f’n day steal their very important time that distracts them away from learning how to take ownership of their own lives how to keep their time and build a stable home environment how to support themselves to be self efficient the right to independence not paying an ignorant self-absorbed system full of phoney ideas that feeds others who don’t even feed themselves millions of ignorant single parent homes and addictions and violence and on and on it goes the self-absorbed system forcing them to also be dependent throwing that all around any old way it likes by egotistical ideas it gets off on. WHAT ABOUT YOU ARE YOU DEVELOPING. NO, TECHNOLOGY IS RUNNING YOU OVER COMPETES WITH YOU. F’N DUH. Is it necessary to have technology in the home just to take you away from your opposable thumbs. What can you f’n do picture what you don’t. Life has become commercialized clearly toxic I can’t even believe parents are stupid enough to allow it they DON’T raise their children they expect the system to, which is only interested in ripping off. You all rip each other off you all monopolize time and space I see it every f’n day in the system ZERO RESPONSIBILITY, ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY. You never f’n serve yourselves you’ve bought into the phoney bullshit of serving others in which you EXPECT TO BE SERVED. And that’s EXACTLY HOW YOUR SYSTEM RIPS YOU OFF IT KEEPS YOU BEHIND. It’s called REDUNDANCY. And that’s f’n ignorant. How is it people waste time on so many jobs doing for others what others can do for themselves so they are free to do for themselves. That’s slavery dear daft one. I pay such a high amount of taxes and yet live very practical far from any phoney high-maintenance lifestyle spent by supposed leaders. A leader would never waste their time spending money they’d be so far independent in their thinking they’d never lower themselves to it capable self-efficient a WILL TO DO FOR THEMSELVES not create burden for others independence would never f’n support fraud as it of itself is not a system born to think dependently it’s not a taker that’s how we know there’s something else to the universe other than these fraudulent limitations. Wanting to live better than others this whole stupid thing to compete puts a burden on everyone when you aren’t doing your own work yourself. You want a f’n lifestyle you should be forced to build that yourself. No different from when the elderly would say ‘you want a car you fix it I’m not doing that for you.’ Now, cars are made so that you can’t fix them yourself you see how that f’n scam works how it encroaches on your territory to do for yourself and you don’t even f’n notice. Daft. Supposed leaders intentionally create a system that suits themselves it has nothing to do with putting clothing on you. The “citizens” live paycheque to paycheque they have evolved to have to buy everything? JFC what a con. Have you EVER AS A SPECIES CONSIDERED HOW FOOLISH THAT IS. What a disaster in the making that was always manipulation. If you really, and I mean really want to know how useful a politician is throw him in a ditch and see what he becomes of it nevermind what he makes of it. Environment is awareness. You’ve been cleared out to be dependent. Wildlife has it better than you. There are no f’n excuses for that so stop blaming the system when you’re the problem. YOU are THE SYSTEM YOU f’n “CREATED.” Stop creating immature demand by having realistic expectations of yourself not unrealistic expectations of others. You have built no realistic skill to survive. And that’s stupid. YOU ALLOW YOUR TIME TO BE MONOPOLIZED. Consider the ideas you support the jobs you apply for the time these monopolize of itself and others. You can be Musk and dig holes just because you’re bored or you can build yourself a house because that actually matters. BRING OUR REAL MEN BACK. AND WOMEN. KNOW YOUR REAL RESPONSIBILITIES. THAT is your only real fortune. DITCH THE “ECONOMY.” Don’t tell me it “works” you don’t f’n know what that is. And boy, are you ever gonna be pissed when you REALIZE HOW nevermind falsely imagine “WHY” you would have all done better without it. Musk is talking like a child that’s no leader he’s doing EXACTLY AS WAS INTENDED, WASTING TIME. And then it’s posted here to shape that thought process, which has absolutely f’n nothing to do with actual thinking. You don’t have to waste your time asking questions you should already know what your brain actually needs to do it’s your petty wants that are getting in the f’n way. You think it’s f’n respectful all the useless manipulative advertising that gets thrown on your kids? RETHINK IT. RETHINK YOURSELF. You have a f’n right to nobody f’n owns you take ownership of your life or someone else will. Stop setting your future generations up for failure you’ve been SEVERELY BRAINWASHED. I see a young girl and her father and grandfather working fields in India and your media sets you up to say “aw poor girl she can’t go to school.” ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME. THAT GIRL knows more than any of your kids set up for entertainment-to monopolize and be monopolized. AT THE LEAST, SHE CAN FEED HERSELF. The rest of you get tossed around forced to be dependent on jobs that come and go. AND NEVER FEED YOUR FAMILIES. BIG FUCKING WHOOPEE. You freely take yourselves away from what you can do yourselves, but don’t you ever f’n think you have the right to take that away from others for your useless petty f’n wants.
Actually, if your WHY is strong enough you will force a HOW in some way. If someone is determined enough, he will always find a way to make it work. Musk is a great example for that.
@@dermuschelschluerfer Why trumps how. The odds of getting to a new how of anything is near impossible without the passion of the need to know the why.
The no grade system I think a great idea as long as the kids are curious and motivated. This is because people learn from failure, but failure is viewed as wrong and punished when getting a bad grade. If grades were gone kids would be more excited to learn and less afraid of "failure".
The idea is to allow kids to learn what they like, and not force them to learn something they don't like. That will solve the self-motivation problem, but what is the right age to start doing that. Can very young kids be trusted to make the right decisions?
@@hkiajtaqks5253 Kids are smart (That's if their raised right) If you sit a box of legos near a child what will they do? They'll dive straight into it.
@@hkiajtaqks5253 young kids are the best for self led learning! They learn how to walk, eat, speak a whole language, and understand social cues in their first few years. Children are constantly asking "why, "what's that," and "can I try?" Their curiosity and eagerness is squashed out by schools that group them according to their zip code and date of birth and tell them what to learn, when to talk, when to pee, when to move... Trust children, not the failing system of education.
This is exactly why I didn't enjoy my math classes but enjoyed my physics classes. There was a lot of relevance in my classical physics lessons as the problems I solved were real world. It was highly relatable.
Math is like the ABC. Do you ask your kindergarten teacher why you learn ABC? You just know that you can't proceed further if you don't know ABC. But yes, physics is enjoyable
Teachers don’t tell the purpose of what kids are learning, because they don’t know the purpose themselves. My high school teachers taught trigonometry by forcing us to memorize the formulas. I didn’t know how useful trigonometry is until I became an electric engineer with masters degree. The high school teachers apparently never went to engineering school, so they don’t know the purpose. Unfortunately those who can’t do the real work tend to become teachers to make a living.
Shouldn't teachers know what professions they are helping their students learn about? Is this some mystery game? Learn this subject, and figure out on your own what you'll do with this class, if you get an A when you are only a teenager, really....???
@@nikkininedoor1480 the teachers are given a curriculum and then are forced to teach it. Even the teachers arent briefed on the importance (the why and how) of what they teach. It truly is a bad system.
Yet, you would had not been admitted to that engineering program without knowing trigonometry. All of your teachers helped you to be able to make that choice. What you said about your teachers just showed that you are an ingrate.
@@hopewells769 I guess u cant expect all the high school math teachers to have a master in elec eng. They did the best that they can which is to teach memorization of formulas which is still better than nothing and help the student to be at least admitted to places of higher learning where the "why's" are answered.....
@@hopewells769 If charlatans didn't take up the positions of quality teachers, market would drive up the salaries of real qualified teachers and attract the best in the industry. Imagine teachers earn more and be more prestigious than doctors and lawyers, that would be a better world.
Ironically, he also just described one of the reasons the job market is broken. We don't trust people anymore to do even fundamental tasks because management doesn't want to take the time to actually train people how to do the tasks their way so they can be productive.
Going through that right now. Management doesn't want to train us, because we have "no time", but yesterday I had to spend 4 hours self training, while the customer waited, in order to get their systems back online, which delayed things by 24 hours.
Because medium skill jobs that can be taught for 2 weeks to 1 year are gone. Nowadays mostly only high skill, advanced and deep jobs are left, and of course the low skill ones people avoid, so there is no way for them to properly teach them. And jobs are more advanced than ever and getting only more and more complex and deep with time. Every new generation needs to know as much as the previous generations in a given field and more.
@@countrystudent1038 wow, don't blame the government in capitalist economy countries. The reason is technological advancements, specifically in the last 25-30 years. Automation nowadays is everywhere, whereas until the late 80s and early 90s it was just on the rise and that's when it started exploding exponentially. So now the same jobs that were worked by 100x people who could be trained within 2 weeks to 1 year are now done by one machine that is either fully autonomous(no worker input) or semi-autonomous(some worker input). And that machine is developed and built by workers who work very advanced job, that take years of self-education and on the work practice that no longer train people nearly as much and nowadays want ready workers with 2-5 years experience for the lowest positions. And the machines themselves take years of R&D. Well how is a university graduate supposed to have 2-5 years experience to get in the lower position straight out of university and in general a person who hasn't worked in that sphere? See the problem? Whereas back in the more manual labour days, 75-80% of the jobs in a factory could be taught within a month or less. So now there are very few medium-skill jobs due to technological advancement. You can only blame humanity for progressing, but you can't blame the government on that one. You can actually blame the education system, which is made by the government, for producing useless people after 12-20 years of wasting people's lives.
@@rattlehead999 Jobs are are getting more complex than ever, but you forgot one thing. Wages/ Salaries aren't going up adjusted for inflation. Each generation needs to know more and their purchasing power is less
My hs computer science teacher realized this in my final 2 years and told me to just build something I found cool. 2 years into university and Im still lightyears ahead of most of my peers
My computer science teacher made a class specifically that allows students to make whatever they want and then submit a summary of what they did or learned at the end of the week
The 'our brains evolved to forget anythingbwe dont need', hit home for me. Ive forgotten 90% of my education outside of the basics. We just need to teach the bits were likely to remember.
Education is an industry created to employ teachers, professors and administrators. And maintain the status quo for the establishment. If you want your children to grow, teach them yourself. Homeschool.
Close, but I don't think that's quite right. Schools were created as a daycare for kids, and also as a factory line for producing obedient workers who don't think for themselves but just do as they're told.
@@ReasonMakes honestly that's what most people are good for anyways. Got to have a strong workforce to have a strong economy. However the current system is not creating a strong work force. It's creating weak minded perpetual victims.
...you still need to follow the stupid curriculum put in place by ministry of education. most teachers are qualified in social science, hence the load of unemployed people holding a degree!
When i was a kid i asked my teacher why we are learning arrays he didn't answer me and said just learn them you will understand in the feature, and since then i lost interest in math and failed my school on purpose i regret what i did when i grew up, and went back to school but i wish my teacher told me what's arrays are for
Even we know that's reason... I don't think we would have motivation to learn it... I mean when I'm young, I'm just useless, fooling, naive and always doing thing that which make me having fun like video game from depression and stress. If just I'm mature and realized early just how precious that knowledge and time... I won't be like this... I hate myself... But i need moving forward.. i need to know reality I'm living in present right now. Sorry for rambling.
I was as far behind in math as you can be my senior year in high school. The teacher literally said, "none of you will go to college, but just memorize this stuff to get through this class so you can graduate." I now have a master's degree and a successful engineering career. Had I known what I know now, that math is a tool that you can acquire and use to design and build robots, cars, spaceships, submarines, and everything else, I'm sure I would have been more engaged from the start.
I used to admire Elon a lot and wished to emulate a lot of what his actions. But now, as more revelations come to me and the more I learn of Elon and the world, I don't see him in the same light anymore. Don't get me wrong, I still LOVE Elon and what he is doing for the planet, he is one of the only billionaires using his money for good (alongside Gates). However, I don't see him as someone who is perfect nor someone who has all the answers and we shouldn't question him. I used to be one of those Musk fanboys who thought he was God among men and anyone with criticism against him was a fool and wouldn't be successful in life. And that emulating everything he does will make me successful as well. But now I realize that there are an infinite number of paths to success and that working hard alone WILL NOT lead to success, luck plays a huge role. I mean, Elon is super smart, he was able to get into Stanford for pete's sake! And I am certain his genius is the reason why he is able to achieve what he has achieved, but I know that an average person like me isn't that smart. I know that I won't be as successful as Musk, that is the truth, and I am okay with that!
People who succeed have a momentum. The more they succeed, the more they want to succeed, and the more they find a way to succeed. Similarly, when someone is failing, the tendency is to get on a downward spiral that can even become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
You made a valid point and at times I wonder if there is still real opportunity out there and genuine people who are willing and ready to share business ideas
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I just want to share an Interesting story that I've experienced. For my entire education, I was put into special education, and I didn't really realize it, Teachers made it easy, which made me a lazy student. Then, One day, my parents informed me about my disability. This was a huge wake up call for me. I started realizing, in school, that I was being treated differently. Then, High School came. Things got worse. I was put into a program, and I wasn't learning anything. So, I started teaching myself. In the later years of High School, I took all the mainstream electives I could get. Even in those classes, I was treated differently, by the teachers, students, everyone. Then, the pandemic hit. Spy software was installed into everyone's school-issued laptops, and some sites, like Netflix, Facebook, Reddit, ect, were blocked. That was another wake up call for me. Then, Schools began to push radical agenda's, like Women's history month, BLM month, which all I had to do was turn off the volume, and listen to videos about Psychology. That's exactly what I did. A much better use of my time. Again, another wake up call. School's do not have your best interests at heart. My syndrome at least taught me that. All School has taught me is how to Identify a Right Isosceles triangle, In the 12TH GRADE. Trust me, Teaching yourself is the best thing you can do for yourself.
@@reflectionsofme Correct, which is why what Elon was saying about learning how to use a wrench while working on an engine, you should learn how to use a calculator while working on practical real world math
@@second_second_ That's why its important to stay up to date with them. An abacus was useful during its time, sure, but as more and more math tools got more sophisticated, we dropped the abacus for something more advanced like a calculator. Those tools both have roughly the same job (aid in calculations) but one has far more useful features than the other
@@second_second_ Well, problems change the same as the tools do. In order for you to solve future problems you will have to use the update to date tools, thus learning those tools even if they do change. If a tool changes, then that means it was change to solve a problem that wasn't effectively solvable with older methods.
Everything I learn in school I forgot as soon as the class was over and I got the grade. The grade was more important than learning anything, so I learned nothing.
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Yes...I agree with EVERYTHING this Man just said in this video. I wish I could have made a deal with my University to skip all of my classes and just gone to work in their laboratories. I develop 30 useful improvements and patent them. 10 are mine, 20 are yours and I graduate. Problem Solving is about the best skill you can have in your arsenal, along with social skills. Sadly, most schools don't even address either one. Elon has the key when it comes to producing results. And THAT is where we all need to focus. NOT rhetoric.
Agreed with Problem Solving and Social Skills but the third element in this equation IS Rethoric. Language is a fundamental tool along with math. Rhetoric is the binding element. Humble point of view.
@@FromTheHeart2 I understand. Rhetoric as a communication skill. Agreed. Indeed a part of social skills. I was referring to the term as "empty rhetoric" Just talk, talk, talk, criticism, and no action or production of results.
@@mitchsalawine5420 you are right! Rethoric ends up taking that connotation nowadays. Its original meaning however is deeper. Thanks a lot in any case for bringing up the subject. Have a great day.
That won't work, can't invent anything if you don't understand how it works, I had a lab in uni which happened before the lecture on the content, we were all sat around confused trying to work out how to read a p-H diagram, it didn't work
@@chrissmith3587 Not true, eventually if you analyse anything, you'll be able to decipher (or think what it means ) how to use it. How did one create fire then during cold nights? Or How did we ever start building ships? It's simply seeing what works and what doesn't. If you're having trouble, you have to shift your thoughts.
I knew I will be a programmer in elementary school. Then I had to go through 7 more years of generalized education, then 3,5 of university. I learned less in 10 years of formal education than 3 months as an intern. Also, kids are being taught why they are taught what they are taught. For a test.
Generalized education is bullshit. I remember going through 6th - 9th grade, forgetting everything and getting everything taught from scratch at 10th grade. Literally wasted thousands of hours of millions of people.
While I fully agree with you and Elon, I also think that there is a great value in broader education. There is so much valuable things even you know nothing about. Finally, vast majority of kids and teenagers haven't got a clue about what will be their profession. IMHO the biggest problem is the lack of good engaging teachers.
In my opinion the biggest shortcoming in schooling is the fact that you're not taught how to be smarter, you're only taught to remember what the teacher tells you so you can put it on a test later. At no point in my schooling was I taught how to think better, how to be more open minded, how to see the fundamental reasoning behind why each subject is important. I wasn't taught how to be a critical thinker or to truly be uniquely creative to myself in order to benefit my community. I've had to struggle and am still struggling every day to learn these concepts on my own and the fact that so many people go through life without critical thinking skills is a huge flaw in our education system. Edit: could be seen as a benefit if you're at the head of the system trying to print factory workers.
U need more likes. People need to understand the importance of critical thinking. When people like me support a comment such as this, it's hard to tell if they themselves know what you're talking about right? People have different levels of understanding on things. And some people just lack understanding on so many of the key points, yet still believe in something. And sometimes it's hard to tell if the people that support your argument actually understand these key points and are truly informed like yourself, or if they're just at that lacking but on the right track stage. If you felt this, I can relate.
From a teacher to a teacher. Don't be lazy, make your job interesting and others will feel the same. Be a lazy educator and be sure to expect nothing in return. Your growth is a reflection on others. period.
I took, small gas engines, metal castings and electricity in 8th grade, I took basic wood working and basic drafting in 9th grade. I took advanced wood working and advanced drafting in 10th grade. Built a pirogue (Louisiana boat) as my 10th grade project. I now own a successful roofing company and build Harleys and old cars as a hobby. SO GLAD I DIDN’T GO TO COLLEGE! I love what I do.
Educate yourself. Those freaking grades don't matter that much. We need innovative people not those who memorize the rules. Like dude, come on, go out there and put stuff into application. Apply the stuff that you learn, you don't need always to be in theory. Science is interesting if they tell us that with it, we can build rockets, Self-driving cars, AI algorithms, and more. This is why I hate a little bit the school systems, but I love learning. Self-learning is the essential part in becoming a great person in the future. Focus on your passion, your passion is going to give the motivation to continue even if you're in your darkest days. Thank you for reading !
I never went to college. I got very good grades in high school, but I had a bad behavior. I worked my ass off right out of high school. I invested every penny that I could save. I never,ever got in debt. I became a self made millionaire at the age of 37 after I sold my second business. I’m now 48 and doing great. School definitely isn’t for everyone.
School definitely isn't for everyone, but it really does come down to having ambition to better yourself rather than become complacent. However, it also depends on the people you surround yourself with as they do have some influence on your life even in an indirect manner.
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Education in the U.S. is now just a meat grinder. I think 9 out of 10 times that a trade school would be far more beneficial than college. If you can get past the idea that manual labor is somehow for people less intelligent (it's not) you can make a TON of money in plumbing, electrical work and construction. The demand is off the charts right now. Poor grades in school are not indicative of low cognitive ability, some people simply don't do well in that setting, and forcing them into it can be harmful. The best mechanic I know dropped out of high school.
I scored very high on IQ tests starting in jr. high. Failed every math class for years until a counselor decided to put me in advanced classes. In those, the why of things that were being taught were part of the course. The difference between engagement and boredom is infinite. Mr. Musk nailed it on the nose.
What he describes (teaching kids without giving them the ‘why’) is not theoretically grounded. It’s not practical precisely because it’s not tied to theory. There is nothing as practical as a good theory.
It's always helpful when you know the "Why?" So you make it the engine that drives you and motivates you. If more kids started knowing their purpose from an early stage they would be more focused on learning ways to achieve their goal. I spent most of my life trying to figure out that purpose. I eventually did. and ever since everything I have done is to lead me towards my goal.
One important thing that should be thought to the older adolescents is the value of investing their earnings. Most people live their lives, working hard and basically just existing but don't achieve anything. I wish I learned about selling calls and puts 10 years ago, because that strategy and real estate is how I have become wealthy
@Vincent, I agree with your opinion on investing and you are right options trading is really an efficient way to achieve financial success. Everyone who ever learned to profit consistently from the stock market went on to be millionaires.
@@vincentchamberlain7349 On the topic of investing, I have been surveying the possibilities of putting my money into and index fund or a good government bond. What do you think would be more profitable under a considerably short period of time ?
@@rosalinecarie2447 To answer your question, index funds are more profitable than government bonds. However ETF Investing is more profitable than both. Especially when you follow the right guides and invest in productive ETFs. For instance, I started making real profit when I enrolled with *Amanda Katherine Leff* and followed her methods.
@@vincentchamberlain7349 Never did I imagine that would see a remark about Amanda Leff on TH-cam. She is an outstanding trader with strategies that defy the market and maximizes performance time after time.
Now go look at the SpaceX engineering hiring page. They will ask you to submit SAT, GRE, GPA, everything college related. Those fields are required, so if you have no college degree, you can't even apply :D.
I didn't bother to listen to this video. Musk thinks he's some kind of innate genius but the fact is he does hire highly educated people to design cars. There's a big difference between Engineers and Shade Tree Mechanics. And who knows at age 12 that they want to design cars so fundamental education in a formal setting to give humans the basics is necessary. Are humans born knowing what the square root of 2 is or what the RMS value of a sine wave is given its peak? The problem is not with the schools or teachers it's the dumb kids that refuse to do anything other than goof off and stare at their phones all day.
@@timtoolman9940 I am with you. Musk himself is highly educated. People believe what they want to believe, it is a shame that people want to believe that education does not matter.
@@madkilla707 Can you point at a resource that backs that claim because I doubt it's true. Also, the government definitely doesn't mandate that job applicants submit their SAT, GRE, GPA. SpaceX uses these metrics as a proxy of intelligence, just like everyone else. They just present themselves like they don't because it sounds cool. I am a big fan of Elon, but this is crappy, hypocritical PR.
Schools have successfully nulled all means to critically think. I wanted to learn mathematics, but I couldn't when it wasn't applied to useful cases. Of course, that's not how the education structure works. It teaches children en masse the same thing and never branches out physical understanding. I wanted to learn about mechanisms on aircraft, so I'd spend countless hours doing that research on aircraft. Coupled with being financially disadvantaged didn't allow me the means to follow such a dream. We'd have to be completely asleep to think this current system works. Only helps those with the means to do so. Otherwise, enjoy your life struggling to make ends meet while working 10+ hours in a factory wondering why you're so depressed.
I have come up with an idea that would work. In the classroom you have a student that says he doesn't understand what is being taught. Everyone thing that is taught and every way it is taught, the student says he doesn't understand. This gets the rest of the class angry and are getting different approaches to subject. Bang instant genius.
Sometimes, you have to come up with your own answer to the question “why” one needs to learn. You learn to be a better version of yourself. If you can’t convince yourself of that, no teacher will be able to. Also, how much can you realistically expect from a child?
I had to learn this the hard way. I started and dropped out of 2 academic courses because i had bad memory and my brain could only properly process information when it sees the relationship with real life situations. I hated the fact that i had to learn just to pass my semester. Now im 29 doing a professional course, and its the first time in my life that i actually like going to class, because i feel what im learning is useful and i see how it is.
irrelevance is torturous and cruel so many thousands of hours wasted jumping through hoops training a dog some dogs don't ask why they jump they just do as told for the rewards Universities are full of such creatures
I remember my brother taught me some shortcuts in calculus and some algos for computer science. I was reprimanded by my professors for not solving it according to their rules. He helped me apply it to developing applications and web development. Now I'm a developer so thanks bro.
I only had 2 teachers that wanted to get the students bodily involved so we could see and understand the 'why'. 'they' think asking why is being impertinent or disrespectful.
I wish the educators would embrace this and change our school system. I agree with what you are saying, school was torture for me also. I was invisible and got very little out of it. Dreaming out the window. Now 50 years later I wish I could have gone to Elon’s school.
If there was anytbing that school taught me it was that I aint good enough. Thats why they failed me. Belittled me and kicked me out multiple times. Teachers only care about a paycheck. These teachers spend more time with the students than the parents. Many kids don't have parents.
no because the party controls the president. Politics is a dirty game and no one person is going to manipulate it or theyll take you down. Musk should focus on colonizing the universe.
Elon Musk: A true Genius, with the ability to communicate it to the rest of the world. Its like he is the second coming of Nikola Tesla, but able understand people and ensure his ideas are incorporated into the world.
He's not a genius, he's just an ordinary man who thinks, puts in effort in what he does, and states his views on certain topics. Any man or woman can do that.
Math, Science, History, Art, Physical Education... it is all important. Good teachers are what every school needs. People who are genuinely interested and passionate about teaching their respective subject.
I pray whoever reads this should become successful. keep fighting for success. the rich stay rich by spending like the poor and investing why the poor stay poor and be spending like the rich yet not investing. Roar! Invest earn and be successful.
@Bretta carlotta I totally agree with you, the crypto currency market is the most profitable venture I ever invested in, I reached my goal of $500k yearly trade earnings. Setting realistic goals is an essential part of trading
He's so right. My public school education was seriously lacking (STEM subjects, specifically). I can tell you exactly when I lost interest in computer science, math, and chemistry.
I have been creating adult training. One of the first things is to state objectives, and described what you will be able to do or what you will be able to describe. In this way you fully understand where the training is going, the purpose and what you will be able to do. So he is right just need to do this in schools how Elon described.
Yeah if you don't explain why kids might think it's a waste of time and sometimes it is. Sometimes teachers just have a curriculum and have to teach what they are told to and kids might argue with that. Particularly if they don't like a subject.
Communication is important. Teachers expect kids to "show their work" or explain their thought process in essays but don't do it themselves? Just shut up do as your told? I noticed my grade school report cards also said things like Anna talks too much and it disrupts the class but in high school they said Anna is a great contributor to classroom discussions. I had not changed but some teachers attitudes had.
Schooling is where young people are exposed to ALL of the basic communication, logic, arithmetic, social skills, and general how to be a person who operates in a system with other people. Education is the building of one set of skills upon another. Everyone needs the basics as a foundation upon which to build. Every person is unique, but without the fundamentals of our caste system there can be no advancement. One thing we should not do is to cause a student to specialize early in life. Good musicians often make good computer programmers because they understand organizational skills and by learning music they have learned a second language which is shared by all musicians, but not all brass players are of the skill of Winton. So, let’s give all the kids a reasonable education as a start and let them sort out their future by being able to communicate with others and understand truth from fiction.
I agree but this raises the question of how long should that 'fundamental' level schooling be? i can safely say that 80 % of my highschool education has absolutely no relevance to what I do for a living today. its like..'here all of you learn this calculus because some of you will become engineers` but your calculus grades will affect your over all GPA, which will, in turn, affect your odds of studying your chosen field, while also making you feel guilty for not measuring up.
@@chaosss444 We seem to agree a lot! When I taught chemistry in a high school, in my first day of class the students were told that the purpose of the chemistry class was not chemistry, as that could change and they would be the ones to change it, but rather it was to develop in them the ability to think like a scientist. Where possible the chemistry was interwoven with the stories of the men and women that developed the ideas that we were then investigating. Some students returned to share their pathways thru post high school learning and some even found their way to chemistry. All showed a maturity that comes of engaging the world with the full knowledge that current trends were to be viewed as important within the context of the day. As for the GPA holding you back; I will agree that it plays an overly significant part in where you can go to school, but the breadth of your life skills will more than compensate for a lack luster or less than stellar GPA. I, personally, was an average student, but have had the opportunity to earn two masters degrees not thru my past academic reference but on a willingness to learn. Do I attribute any of my life directly to my high school? No, not in a literal sense, but without the grounding and diverse sharing of ideas (without me knowing it was being done) my life would have been very different. My classmates in high school became everything from steel workers to business leaders. All due, in part, to our abilities and the social fabric of our community.
@Paul Boston While kids should have to learn some basic skills like language, basic math, and history, I think options for specialization should happen early on. The why and how for each field should also be made clearer here. I'm saying this from personal experience. In first grade I could do 5th grade math, thanks to my parents being good teachers, without any formal education. I begged the teachers for more difficult tasks, but was repeatedly rejected as "everyone has to learn the same curriculum". This is torture through boredom. Imagine sitting for 5 years being forced to do things you already know how to. It kills your curiosity, and ruins your best years of learning. Which is when you're young. Instead of learning things that were actually useful to my future career, I was forced to repeat tasks I knew how to, memorize the names of musicians I didn't like, learn propaganda in the place of history, learn how to analyze poems in ways they were never intended to, etc. The quality of our education systems are appalling. The success of my carrier was not due to anything I learned at school. School actually prevented me from taking initiative in learning for years. The only thing modern schooling ever gave me was social anxiety, and eight years of depression. The primary purpose of school should be to learn you to think for yourself, research critically for yourself, and how to find the areas you can be productive that fulfill you based on your capabilities. Modern school fail at all 3. And more critically, it actively and knowingly kills the curiosity of students, which in that position should be a criminal offence on the part of the curriculum makers.
@@vikingraven4758 We agree. Educators have recognized that children are all unique and their abilities span a vast spectrum. Unfortunately they all arrive at the schoolroom door as a bunch grouped only by their chronological order, and it is up to the school to distribute its resources to fit the needs of all of the students. This is a daunting task because most teachers view their students as individuals that should be taught on their personal levels. As classrooms grew crowded, addressing each student as an individual becomes more difficult and the unfortunate situation arises where both the gifted and the challenged are given less than the attention that is needed. As the student progresses and the student population is expanded thru merging of lower forums, the sorting of student talents becomes more easily defined and teaching staff more specialized. Where an elementary school teacher teaches the whole child a broad base of skills, as the student progresses their apparent skills become more clear. Students are grouped by their academic performance to better address special needs. At the current time “special needs” is a term most often associated with challenged students, but within the educational community a need for addressing those talented students within the group has been an important topic. By the time the student reaches high school there is a pretty fair understanding of their talents and, during my teaching career, they were grouped so that a teacher could taylor their teaching to fit each group. In my case I taught in two different schools. The first was as small school with two chemistry classes of 22-25 students each. That meant that the grouping was very broad, but none the less it was done with a fair degree of validity. The second high school had three chemistry trencher and each taught five classes of about 20-25 students grouped by academic ability. This gave the administration two sorting criterion; first by student academic performance and second by proficiency of the teacher. Both criterion were judgmental on the part of the administration and neither were revealed to anyone. In my chemistry classes all students were given essentially the same information, but it was tailored to the students level. The AT (academically talented) students were give an in-depth view with large doses of physics, math and biology as support for the material. In these AT classes I taught chemistry for the first quarter, and we DISCUSSED chemistry for the rest of the year. I could have done the same thing at the first school if the class size was 4 to 5 rather than the 20-25; there was that much difference in the individual student. I often think of Scouting as an educational model. They don’t address potty training, coloring within the lines, or learning the alphabet. All of that is assumed by the age of a Cub Scout, so the tasks offered (not assigned!) are tailored to challenge and reward. Badges are given for each defined task. By the age of 12 it is realized that the chid has moved on and is ready for a more complex set of tasks and the uniform is changes, the tasks more involved and the responsibilities shifted to the Scout. Always, there is, in Scouting, the image of the “gold” of the Eagle Scout; sort of the phd of youth. That is a FAR reach from the original premises established by Elon’s presentation, but has afforded us the opportunity of viewing the argument from different perspectives. I hope your math talents were not squashed by the system and appreciate your talents in programming as well as your contribution to this discussion. Thanks!
My education didn't teach me to be a problem solver, it taught me to be a order following information regurgitator. Now that I'm an adult and I'm deprived of most of my neuroplasticity I have to relearn how to actually function meaningfully.
Different people learn differently, of course. I was always able to figure out the why of having to learn everything, even if I didn't agree with the reason. But I recognize that I was very different than most of my peers.
Trust me, if you apply to Tesla or SpaceX (or The Boring Company or Neuralink) and you don't have the degrees but you have the skills and knowledge - they will hire you. However, many people who do have those things, get a degree, so that's why they hire people without degrees.
i don't think he started the app when he was 12. I think that's when he made a game software which is still impressive. (not trying to bash your comment)
Exactly he had then the understanding or someone told him that take on the project to build the game and innthe process he learned how to code how to put the game together
If he taught himself to code he taught himself leveraging someone else's knowledge. If you want to write embedded code you still have to study the architecture of the processor. If you want to code in C you still have to study the C language. Learning is not an isolated thing. You just don't know things because you are just a genius as this guy likes to think of himself.
For many, many, many decades, the 'education' sector has been scamming people with ease. Their goal is to have you believe you *need* qualifications, whereas you *don't.* What you really *need* is knowledge and experience.
Elon needs to create a new education system based on this, imagine an education system that breeds millions of Elon musks, I can tell you there will be a lot of problems solved in this world from solving the climate crisis to solving extreme world poverty
Well like Carlin said you have to teach people HOW to think not WHAT to think lots of people don't consider or analyze things for themselves at all. Free thinking is discouraged it has been for Musk too he has lots of adversaries.
LMAO the solution to exterminating poverty is abolishing capitalism not a million elon musks, people like him are the reason poverty exists in the first place smh
@@abhiasokkumar8536 Brilliant, people who create wealth and jobs are the 'reason for poverty'. Like most communists/socialists, you live in wilful ignorance of history and current events. Also, like most socialists/communists, you probably don't have compassion for the poor, you're just jealous and bitter about those that have more than you. On average, the number of people living in extreme poverty has declined by 47 million every year since 1990. This is generally a result of capitalist systems. Do you know any of the history of communism? Ie, everywhere it's been tried, millions died.
Thirty five years ago I was a maths and science teacher (at a school in South Africa, the country where Elon had his school education). The impediments in teaching which Musk outlines in this discussion were core to our approach. Math and science classes were full of tangible apparatus that the kids were familiar with in their everyday lives, and we encouraged them to find solutions to problems on their own. For the most part (as teachers) we stood aside and watched how they tackled a problem, assisting only when they asked for advice and suggestions. Today - many of the kids I taught (who are now in their 50's) are leaders in science and engineering, are business owners, and we still keep in touch via Facebook...
Well, I graduated with mechanical engineering and my “why” was financial freedom and time. I’m 32, making 100k salary, investing in alternative fuels, energy storage, blockchain and cannabis. My investments led me to 150k this year on top of my engineering salary. Hopefully I’ll be able to retire early, focus on things that make me happy and my parents house had a water leak in the main line which I paid for the repairs bc it makes me feel good. I wouldn’t have it any other way and am glad I went to school and graduated with engineering. Good luck.
@Muse Haven Entrepreneurism would be easier with capital. I just think it’s a safer road considering an engineering degree can be paid off within a year once your career is built and you don’t spend it for the Jones.
When I was about 8 years old, we went to dinner at a nice restaurant. This was a very rare occurrence. My Dad "proudly" told me to "order anything on the menu." That was the moment I looked at the prices. My father was a school teacher who sold furniture part time for a second job. I grew up at that moment. I realized there would be NO MONEY for me and NOBODY would pay my bills. I became an adult. Eventually, I had to do odd jobs like a paper route, selling magazine subscriptions door to door and various part-time jobs while going to school. It was transformative. All I believe Musk is talking about is about growing up and taking personal responsibility. Without that, education does not occur. Our Leftist political society tells everyone that it is NOT their fault they have failed. It is ALWAYS someone else's fault. Sanjosemike (no longer in CA)
This applies to anything. A lot of kids and even adults ask "why are we learning this?" when it comes to mathematics, but the same question is relevant to something like history. Why should you memorize dates that certain events happened? Isn't that just trivia? If you're just learning it to pass a test, then yes. You might as well be learning who a Hollywood starlet has dated or how many RBI Joe DiMaggio had in his career. But no, it's not trivia, if you're learning history as a systematic way to understand why things are the way they are, and in turn trying to use that understanding to make better decisions for yourself. So why learn dates? Because dates help you understand the order that different things happened, and how close together or far apart they are in time, and that in turn helps you with the relationship between those events logically and even causally. And that helps you APPLY the lessons of history. Does it matter that William the Conqueror began his reign in 1066? As an independent fact, then no. But if that helps you to understand that England wasn't created until well after the death of Mohammed and well before the birth of Ghengis Khan, then yes, it's pretty important. It gives you an idea of the lifespan of nations vs religions, for example, which in turn might help you to understand a modern quandry like how liberal democracies should think about and interact with radical Islamists. For example, simply dropping bombs might not address issues whose foundations are 1000 years in the past. This is important stuff that history might help you understand, but not if you start by learning dates and names and don't start by answering "why should we learn these things?"
I used to say we needed to be told why we learn subject matter we did at school. I also thought we should be paid to go to school. Invest in the future and all that
@@kennethbecon5196 you're right Sir, it's obvious a lot of people remain poor due to ignorance It's better to take risks and make sacrifices than to remain poor
I excelled at math, used it for physics, that for chemistry, that for biology. As youngest of the class, I was beaten up by the two most muscled at drawing arts, english, when I sat next to a girl, exploring what I felt. Jealous muscle DNA competing, fearing position of underdog, extinction. All forces in the universe heal you, most those (momentary) on earth.
We don't need billionaire like you but we need billion of people like you proud of that Elon musk is very influential to the world his actions effect the world
Dunno. The “why” is totally overrated. And I’m not being sarcastic here: The “why” of today might prevent you from seeing the “why” of tomorrow… Went to an ordinary high school in the 70s (in EUC). Our teachers went to university for about 5-7 years plus had 2 years of on-the-job training. They really knew their stuff. Many of them a PhDs. Standards were high(ish) and art was art (not gluing noodles to a piece of paper) and math was hard-core algebra. There was loads of homework and lots of tests. There were no “team projects” - we were expected to use our own brains. A failed class was a failed class. Two failed classes meant you were out. There were standards and rules. There was no “the climate ate my homework” and the color of your skin didn’t matter either. And there were no helicopter parents and there was no constant complaining by parents. When we got in trouble, we had to live with the consequences. Everybody in my class had a proper career or created one for themselves.
THANK YOU!! From your opening statement I needed to know what is a^2+b^2=c^2. OK, It's mostly used to find the hypotenuse of a right triangle. Why and what is a hypotenuse? ALL I NEEDED TO KNOW WAS WHY. You ask the teacher and they don't know so they say stop disturbing the class so I memorized something I had no idea why.
Everybody is born as a scientist. When we learn life's formulas, and understand the correct method for how/when to use them. Life becomes a smooth adventure. Team work is big work, made easy. Blessings to all!
When is was 7 years old i broke my bike. So, i asked my dad to fix it. But he didnt do it. He said, i want you to understand the problem and then describe to me what you think a solution could be and then i help you. That was very hard for me to do and after hours of frustration, i had sort of a plan and also asked him for tools. He gave me everything i needed and i fixed it, without his help at all. I was very proud and happy that evening. When i was 18 i wanted to have a car but i had very little money. You can imagine that i didnt dare to ask my parents for it. Instead i found i a car on a scrapyard. So i presented the idea to my parents the plan to buy that pos and asked for tools to restore it. They agreed but said it is your project and you are in charge. My dad and i spent weeks restoring it and i learned how to weld, how to tear apart an engine etc. What did i learn from my dad? Target oriented problem solving, project managent, creative thinking and many more things. It is basically the foundation of my career as an engineer. The college degree contributed to learning the tools. But the mindset was formed by my parents 100%. Greetings from Germany
Best way hand on. Also when teaching let them figure and find their way.
If every newborn parent in the world took lessons from this story, the next generation would enjoy a much healthier culture.
Fellow engineer here.
Fixing something that is broken is the second best feeling in the world. Creating a new solution is the best feeling in the world.
Sex and drugs are well and good, but mastery over the physical universe is on another level. It's like giving a big middle finger to entropy itself. That's the only way I can describe it. "You don't get to be broken. I will fix you against your will."
Your dad sounds like an awesome dude.
lucky you had a good dad, unfortunately for most they have no one.
I'm italian, i learned english 'cause 'video games. I wanted to understand what all the NPCs in those role playing games were saying. So english was a tool i needed, and with time i became quite fluent in It.
Wow, that's amazing. Congrats.
@@CarlosVargas-oo6gn thanks sir!
That's what the point.
Human creates his own interest when hes curious enough !
Same, but with Magic and Pokémon cards in elementary school. I wanted to know what the cards I played with did.
Having a why is the best motivator to find a how.
This is what I tell people all the time when they asked me about learning languages, if you're put in the situation where you need to ask where the bathroom is, order the food you want, etc ... it actually takes very little effort. I learned more language sitting on a barstool than I ever did in class.
This is why SELF education is important.
I learned 90% on youtube and 10% in high school
@@spacejamgaming yeah, there are many things that are interesting to click
I was spending so much time learning about random things that I found interesting on TH-cam and in books that I went back to school which has significantly slower my education.
This really is important. And what the US was built on. Which is why we need to smash the current patient system and turn it up to 11 on right to repair laws. Make it en vogue to be a nerd. A car, carpentry, or computer geek (etc). Doesn't matter. Poke tf outta dat bear.
Absolutely, I’m planning to start self-educating myself within a few weeks. I remember 5 years ago I was still on the right tract and learning substantial amounts of useful stuff. However after I transferred into a different school I started to fail ever since and I think the most important component of learning new things and applying those concepts is through the means of self education and self adaptation, because for me 5 years after I dropped out of my first school I decided that I needed to change the way I perceive information and the way my original brain functioned that way I changed myself through learning from failures to ultimately become a better version of myself.
Many people seem to stop asking WHY after a certain age.
NEVER stop asking why. Never stop learning. Stay young.
I have a degree and my boss never went to school. He taugh me alot.
He didn't teach you A lot though.
He has much lower chance to become who he is than you become who you are. You should bet your money on education (except Liberal Arts though) if you are not a born gambler. The students should have learned about it in the math class.
Can you imagine living in a world where there are no schools and universities but just “education “ that too all kinds of education that prepares you for the “real world “ from an early age .
@Newtube ?
I had the least amount of education out of all the managers at my company. I am now getting educated, just to uneducate them.
I agree. Every problem should begin with the question: "What skills do we need in order to solve this?"
Using first principles, That would be the third question. The first should be: why is it a problem? The second is: how do we solve the problem?
Brilliant. It's all about relevance. Most of the stuff we learn at school is totally useless in adult life.
Well they change the curriculum too. Look at all the books they are cancelling now if you paid for a university education it does not even mean your skills remain relevant in 10 years. So that is disappointing. Meanwhile trade schools get frowned on?
Just about proper timing man the idea may be but im a retard atleast i know now and am implementing solutions for my 2 children thanks for the time
@@AnnaLVajda if you know someone who needs skills for work i have everything a person needs to get started in a path in injection molding. They just need to formulate the plan they want for their carrear and yes i cannot spell lol but im working on it because information is key
And i love jobcorps so i dont let someone frown on that please i went their for plumbing when i was 16 didnt learn much but it showed me the path to secuss and i got lost but we all are hahah too bad its out owm job to figure out whay that means to us
@@NWOcanSMD wat kinda tings u make?
Schools need to start teach students the WHY before the HOW.
I don't want to learn how to solve an algebraic equation before knowing why I want to do it.
So true.
In my coaching class of 40+ students, I was the only one who actually ASKED, as to WHY we were doing what we were doing, WHY we need to solve that matrix, WHY do we need to know what a magnetron does, WHY are we studying the effects of global warming, etc etc
The children actually don't care , they just wanna finish the syllabus to pass their exams.
School stomps the natural, inborn, questioning nature of children, and converts them into mindless worker bees.
@@aarohansharma4551 yes the education system has turned the children into robots so now these kids don't even question anymore about anything. Before quarantine, i felt my brain was stuck Now I feel more curiosity and refreshment in my brain because of stopping the study
slave same
@@randomuser5780 yes that's true...when you start looking around, there are so many things you want to know...from learning how your AC works, mechanisms of the engine used in your car, importance of economics in our daily life, the quirks of a language.
I mean not only STEM subjects, but everything around you. When you get that curiosity, you *want* to learn.
Then school comes in, where you *have* to learn.
My son interned at Tesla Design Center when he was 20 years old. He learned more about designing cars while helping me at the junkyards removing parts & rebuilding wrecked cars than years of schooling in elementary, middle, high school & his years in college.
Obviously the Tesla center didn't teach him the basic English and math to understand the upper level designs. Basic schools are important and necessary to lay the ground work. There's also a value in education that is more than just fixing cars and working at a job. it's about learning to become a well rounded individual. I think you ought to go back to college or at least read more books.
@V763JI - University of Washington but he was in the Formula SAE club where the team competed against some of the best engrg schools in the world & the team finished 1st in the US & 2nd in the world in 2019 at the competition in Nebraska.
And your son learned more while in school, because you showed him a purpose and use for that education. I am an automotive engineer with over 50 patents, and grew up like your son, the experiences you shared with him were more valuable than college. Educators work in a bubble disconnected from industry .. what they provide is NOT what industry needs ... I interview hundreds of engineering applicants, and the first question I ask is what related hobbies/interests they had growing up .... ONLY a handful make it past that question.
School is just a filter
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The government LOVES psychopaths so premotes them to the best paid jobs
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And anyone who shows skills higher than psychos are pushed down and failed by this BASTARD system
@@DanielK1213th 🐂💩
That's a YES from every school kid homeschooling due to covid.
I might go back to campus next school year because on-site learning is much better for me
The generation proving college is a scam is comin
@@VictorF0326 I’m living proof. 2 degrees and a decade wasted.
First, I say education is a waste of time and space on top of “money” as per a comment I read recently since people are hired by whether they fit in with the rest of a team or a job. Just as in an acting role whether they fit the part. Regardless, it is what children are learning at home that is useless and nevermind “making money” it’s not important NEWSFLASH IT’S NOT REAL the system merely isn’t willing to acknowledge that because supposed leaders want their overpaid big fat bucks as illegit. You let your system decide what your child learns WTH for when it should be learning realistic skills. You are slave to a system that is all. Children don’t even learn to write anymore just so they can be monopolized by software developers and waste a f’n day steal their very important time that distracts them away from learning how to take ownership of their own lives how to keep their time and build a stable home environment how to support themselves to be self efficient the right to independence not paying an ignorant self-absorbed system full of phoney ideas that feeds others who don’t even feed themselves millions of ignorant single parent homes and addictions and violence and on and on it goes the self-absorbed system forcing them to also be dependent throwing that all around any old way it likes by egotistical ideas it gets off on. WHAT ABOUT YOU ARE YOU DEVELOPING. NO, TECHNOLOGY IS RUNNING YOU OVER COMPETES WITH YOU. F’N DUH. Is it necessary to have technology in the home just to take you away from your opposable thumbs. What can you f’n do picture what you don’t. Life has become commercialized clearly toxic I can’t even believe parents are stupid enough to allow it they DON’T raise their children they expect the system to, which is only interested in ripping off. You all rip each other off you all monopolize time and space I see it every f’n day in the system ZERO RESPONSIBILITY, ZERO ACCOUNTABILITY. You never f’n serve yourselves you’ve bought into the phoney bullshit of serving others in which you EXPECT TO BE SERVED. And that’s EXACTLY HOW YOUR SYSTEM RIPS YOU OFF IT KEEPS YOU BEHIND. It’s called REDUNDANCY. And that’s f’n ignorant. How is it people waste time on so many jobs doing for others what others can do for themselves so they are free to do for themselves. That’s slavery dear daft one. I pay such a high amount of taxes and yet live very practical far from any phoney high-maintenance lifestyle spent by supposed leaders. A leader would never waste their time spending money they’d be so far independent in their thinking they’d never lower themselves to it capable self-efficient a WILL TO DO FOR THEMSELVES not create burden for others independence would never f’n support fraud as it of itself is not a system born to think dependently it’s not a taker that’s how we know there’s something else to the universe other than these fraudulent limitations. Wanting to live better than others this whole stupid thing to compete puts a burden on everyone when you aren’t doing your own work yourself. You want a f’n lifestyle you should be forced to build that yourself. No different from when the elderly would say ‘you want a car you fix it I’m not doing that for you.’ Now, cars are made so that you can’t fix them yourself you see how that f’n scam works how it encroaches on your territory to do for yourself and you don’t even f’n notice. Daft. Supposed leaders intentionally create a system that suits themselves it has nothing to do with putting clothing on you. The “citizens” live paycheque to paycheque they have evolved to have to buy everything? JFC what a con. Have you EVER AS A SPECIES CONSIDERED HOW FOOLISH THAT IS. What a disaster in the making that was always manipulation. If you really, and I mean really want to know how useful a politician is throw him in a ditch and see what he becomes of it nevermind what he makes of it. Environment is awareness. You’ve been cleared out to be dependent. Wildlife has it better than you. There are no f’n excuses for that so stop blaming the system when you’re the problem. YOU are THE SYSTEM YOU f’n “CREATED.” Stop creating immature demand by having realistic expectations of yourself not unrealistic expectations of others. You have built no realistic skill to survive. And that’s stupid. YOU ALLOW YOUR TIME TO BE MONOPOLIZED. Consider the ideas you support the jobs you apply for the time these monopolize of itself and others. You can be Musk and dig holes just because you’re bored or you can build yourself a house because that actually matters. BRING OUR REAL MEN BACK. AND WOMEN. KNOW YOUR REAL RESPONSIBILITIES. THAT is your only real fortune. DITCH THE “ECONOMY.” Don’t tell me it “works” you don’t f’n know what that is. And boy, are you ever gonna be pissed when you REALIZE HOW nevermind falsely imagine “WHY” you would have all done better without it. Musk is talking like a child that’s no leader he’s doing EXACTLY AS WAS INTENDED, WASTING TIME. And then it’s posted here to shape that thought process, which has absolutely f’n nothing to do with actual thinking. You don’t have to waste your time asking questions you should already know what your brain actually needs to do it’s your petty wants that are getting in the f’n way. You think it’s f’n respectful all the useless manipulative advertising that gets thrown on your kids? RETHINK IT. RETHINK YOURSELF. You have a f’n right to nobody f’n owns you take ownership of your life or someone else will. Stop setting your future generations up for failure you’ve been SEVERELY BRAINWASHED. I see a young girl and her father and grandfather working fields in India and your media sets you up to say “aw poor girl she can’t go to school.” ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME. THAT GIRL knows more than any of your kids set up for entertainment-to monopolize and be monopolized. AT THE LEAST, SHE CAN FEED HERSELF. The rest of you get tossed around forced to be dependent on jobs that come and go. AND NEVER FEED YOUR FAMILIES. BIG FUCKING WHOOPEE. You freely take yourselves away from what you can do yourselves, but don’t you ever f’n think you have the right to take that away from others for your useless petty f’n wants.
@@kforest2745 if you want someone to listen, say less. This is not meant to be read.
The WHY and the HOW are important drives for curiousity.
That's so true 😭. I didn't get the curiosity when I needed it the most. Our engineering school was just expecting us to mug up and write exams.
Why and how 🙄
Actually, if your WHY is strong enough you will force a HOW in some way. If someone is determined enough, he will always find a way to make it work. Musk is a great example for that.
I agree but many people are curiosity free
@@dermuschelschluerfer Why trumps how. The odds of getting to a new how of anything is near impossible without the passion of the need to know the why.
The no grade system I think a great idea as long as the kids are curious and motivated. This is because people learn from failure, but failure is viewed as wrong and punished when getting a bad grade. If grades were gone kids would be more excited to learn and less afraid of "failure".
The idea is to allow kids to learn what they like, and not force them to learn something they don't like. That will solve the self-motivation problem, but what is the right age to start doing that. Can very young kids be trusted to make the right decisions?
@@hkiajtaqks5253 Kids are smart (That's if their raised right)
If you sit a box of legos near a child what will they do?
They'll dive straight into it.
@@hkiajtaqks5253 young kids are the best for self led learning! They learn how to walk, eat, speak a whole language, and understand social cues in their first few years. Children are constantly asking "why, "what's that," and "can I try?" Their curiosity and eagerness is squashed out by schools that group them according to their zip code and date of birth and tell them what to learn, when to talk, when to pee, when to move... Trust children, not the failing system of education.
@@ooookkkkkkkkkkk man I just took a screenshot of your comment!
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This is exactly why I didn't enjoy my math classes but enjoyed my physics classes. There was a lot of relevance in my classical physics lessons as the problems I solved were real world. It was highly relatable.
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That's how I felt in my physics class. I like to code games so it was awesome learning something actually useful that I could apply.
Math is like the ABC. Do you ask your kindergarten teacher why you learn ABC? You just know that you can't proceed further if you don't know ABC. But yes, physics is enjoyable
Teachers don’t tell the purpose of what kids are learning, because they don’t know the purpose themselves. My high school teachers taught trigonometry by forcing us to memorize the formulas. I didn’t know how useful trigonometry is until I became an electric engineer with masters degree. The high school teachers apparently never went to engineering school, so they don’t know the purpose. Unfortunately those who can’t do the real work tend to become teachers to make a living.
Shouldn't teachers know what professions they are helping their students learn about? Is this some mystery game? Learn this subject, and figure out on your own what you'll do with this class, if you get an A when you are only a teenager, really....???
@@nikkininedoor1480 the teachers are given a curriculum and then are forced to teach it. Even the teachers arent briefed on the importance (the why and how) of what they teach. It truly is a bad system.
Yet, you would had not been admitted to that engineering program without knowing trigonometry. All of your teachers helped you to be able to make that choice. What you said about your teachers just showed that you are an ingrate.
@@hopewells769 I guess u cant expect all the high school math teachers to have a master in elec eng. They did the best that they can which is to teach memorization of formulas which is still better than nothing and help the student to be at least admitted to places of higher learning where the "why's" are answered.....
@@hopewells769 If charlatans didn't take up the positions of quality teachers, market would drive up the salaries of real qualified teachers and attract the best in the industry. Imagine teachers earn more and be more prestigious than doctors and lawyers, that would be a better world.
Ironically, he also just described one of the reasons the job market is broken. We don't trust people anymore to do even fundamental tasks because management doesn't want to take the time to actually train people how to do the tasks their way so they can be productive.
Going through that right now. Management doesn't want to train us, because we have "no time", but yesterday I had to spend 4 hours self training, while the customer waited, in order to get their systems back online, which delayed things by 24 hours.
Because medium skill jobs that can be taught for 2 weeks to 1 year are gone. Nowadays mostly only high skill, advanced and deep jobs are left, and of course the low skill ones people avoid, so there is no way for them to properly teach them.
And jobs are more advanced than ever and getting only more and more complex and deep with time. Every new generation needs to know as much as the previous generations in a given field and more.
@@rattlehead999 why is the medium skilled job is gone do the gorvernment have no respect for the working class kid?
@@countrystudent1038 wow, don't blame the government in capitalist economy countries.
The reason is technological advancements, specifically in the last 25-30 years. Automation nowadays is everywhere, whereas until the late 80s and early 90s it was just on the rise and that's when it started exploding exponentially.
So now the same jobs that were worked by 100x people who could be trained within 2 weeks to 1 year are now done by one machine that is either fully autonomous(no worker input) or semi-autonomous(some worker input).
And that machine is developed and built by workers who work very advanced job, that take years of self-education and on the work practice that no longer train people nearly as much and nowadays want ready workers with 2-5 years experience for the lowest positions. And the machines themselves take years of R&D.
Well how is a university graduate supposed to have 2-5 years experience to get in the lower position straight out of university and in general a person who hasn't worked in that sphere? See the problem?
Whereas back in the more manual labour days, 75-80% of the jobs in a factory could be taught within a month or less.
So now there are very few medium-skill jobs due to technological advancement. You can only blame humanity for progressing, but you can't blame the government on that one.
You can actually blame the education system, which is made by the government, for producing useless people after 12-20 years of wasting people's lives.
@@rattlehead999 Jobs are are getting more complex than ever, but you forgot one thing. Wages/ Salaries aren't going up adjusted for inflation. Each generation needs to know more and their purchasing power is less
My hs computer science teacher realized this in my final 2 years and told me to just build something I found cool. 2 years into university and Im still lightyears ahead of most of my peers
My computer science teacher made a class specifically that allows students to make whatever they want and then submit a summary of what they did or learned at the end of the week
A friend once told me after his interview, "They are hiring paper. They are hiring test takers.".
The 'our brains evolved to forget anythingbwe dont need', hit home for me.
Ive forgotten 90% of my education outside of the basics.
We just need to teach the bits were likely to remember.
Education is an industry created to employ teachers, professors and administrators. And maintain the status quo for the establishment. If you want your children to grow, teach them yourself. Homeschool.
Close, but I don't think that's quite right. Schools were created as a daycare for kids, and also as a factory line for producing obedient workers who don't think for themselves but just do as they're told.
@@ReasonMakes honestly that's what most people are good for anyways. Got to have a strong workforce to have a strong economy. However the current system is not creating a strong work force. It's creating weak minded perpetual victims.
Well said.
...you still need to follow the stupid curriculum put in place by ministry of education. most teachers are qualified in social science, hence the load of unemployed people holding a degree!
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When i was a kid i asked my teacher why we are learning arrays he didn't answer me and said just learn them you will understand in the feature, and since then i lost interest in math and failed my school on purpose i regret what i did when i grew up, and went back to school but i wish my teacher told me what's arrays are for
Even we know that's reason... I don't think we would have motivation to learn it... I mean when I'm young, I'm just useless, fooling, naive and always doing thing that which make me having fun like video game from depression and stress. If just I'm mature and realized early just how precious that knowledge and time... I won't be like this... I hate myself... But i need moving forward.. i need to know reality I'm living in present right now. Sorry for rambling.
I was as far behind in math as you can be my senior year in high school. The teacher literally said, "none of you will go to college, but just memorize this stuff to get through this class so you can graduate." I now have a master's degree and a successful engineering career. Had I known what I know now, that math is a tool that you can acquire and use to design and build robots, cars, spaceships, submarines, and everything else, I'm sure I would have been more engaged from the start.
Elon is the person whom I really admire. His work ethic and doing what he loves really inspired me.
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I used to admire Elon a lot and wished to emulate a lot of what his actions. But now, as more revelations come to me and the more I learn of Elon and the world, I don't see him in the same light anymore.
Don't get me wrong, I still LOVE Elon and what he is doing for the planet, he is one of the only billionaires using his money for good (alongside Gates). However, I don't see him as someone who is perfect nor someone who has all the answers and we shouldn't question him.
I used to be one of those Musk fanboys who thought he was God among men and anyone with criticism against him was a fool and wouldn't be successful in life. And that emulating everything he does will make me successful as well.
But now I realize that there are an infinite number of paths to success and that working hard alone WILL NOT lead to success, luck plays a huge role. I mean, Elon is super smart, he was able to get into Stanford for pete's sake! And I am certain his genius is the reason why he is able to achieve what he has achieved, but I know that an average person like me isn't that smart. I know that I won't be as successful as Musk, that is the truth, and I am okay with that!
@@leodahvee definitely agreed
@@leodahvee Elon is sociopath,
Lucrative !
'Elon Musk' and 'Work Ethic' are rarely found going hand-in-hand.
More often they're at odds end.
People who succeed have a momentum. The more they succeed, the more they want to succeed, and the more they find a way to succeed. Similarly, when someone is failing, the tendency is to get on a downward spiral that can even become a self-fulfilling prophecy.
You made a valid point and at times I wonder if there is still real opportunity out there and genuine people who are willing and ready to share business ideas
Successful people do what unsuccessful people are not willing to do. Don't wish it were easier; wish you were better.
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I just want to share an Interesting story that I've experienced. For my entire education, I was put into special education, and I didn't really realize it, Teachers made it easy, which made me a lazy student. Then, One day, my parents informed me about my disability. This was a huge wake up call for me. I started realizing, in school, that I was being treated differently. Then, High School came. Things got worse. I was put into a program, and I wasn't learning anything. So, I started teaching myself. In the later years of High School, I took all the mainstream electives I could get. Even in those classes, I was treated differently, by the teachers, students, everyone. Then, the pandemic hit. Spy software was installed into everyone's school-issued laptops, and some sites, like Netflix, Facebook, Reddit, ect, were blocked. That was another wake up call for me. Then, Schools began to push radical agenda's, like Women's history month, BLM month, which all I had to do was turn off the volume, and listen to videos about Psychology. That's exactly what I did. A much better use of my time. Again, another wake up call.
School's do not have your best interests at heart. My syndrome at least taught me that. All School has taught me is how to Identify a Right Isosceles triangle, In the 12TH GRADE. Trust me, Teaching yourself is the best thing you can do for yourself.
you are a boss. keep going
I think parents contribute to the problem ... " I was never good at math either." "I don't know where you'll ever use that in the real world."
tbh in the day of technology there is a calculator for everything.
@@reflectionsofme Correct, which is why what Elon was saying about learning how to use a wrench while working on an engine, you should learn how to use a calculator while working on practical real world math
@@Whodjathink Tools are changing though
@@second_second_ That's why its important to stay up to date with them. An abacus was useful during its time, sure, but as more and more math tools got more sophisticated, we dropped the abacus for something more advanced like a calculator. Those tools both have roughly the same job (aid in calculations) but one has far more useful features than the other
@@second_second_ Well, problems change the same as the tools do. In order for you to solve future problems you will have to use the update to date tools, thus learning those tools even if they do change. If a tool changes, then that means it was change to solve a problem that wasn't effectively solvable with older methods.
I'm a student and I think this vedio honestly deserves a million like.
Everything I learn in school I forgot as soon as the class was over and I got the grade. The grade was more important than learning anything, so I learned nothing.
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Yes...I agree with EVERYTHING this Man just said in this video. I wish I could have made a deal with my University to skip all of my classes and just gone to work in their laboratories. I develop 30 useful improvements and patent them. 10 are mine, 20 are yours and I graduate. Problem Solving is about the best skill you can have in your arsenal, along with social skills. Sadly, most schools don't even address either one. Elon has the key when it comes to producing results. And THAT is where we all need to focus. NOT rhetoric.
Agreed with Problem Solving and Social Skills but the third element in this equation IS Rethoric. Language is a fundamental tool along with math. Rhetoric is the binding element. Humble point of view.
@@FromTheHeart2 I understand. Rhetoric as a communication skill. Agreed. Indeed a part of social skills. I was referring to the term as "empty rhetoric" Just talk, talk, talk, criticism, and no action or production of results.
@@mitchsalawine5420 you are right! Rethoric ends up taking that connotation nowadays. Its original meaning however is deeper. Thanks a lot in any case for bringing up the subject. Have a great day.
That won't work, can't invent anything if you don't understand how it works,
I had a lab in uni which happened before the lecture on the content, we were all sat around confused trying to work out how to read a p-H diagram, it didn't work
@@chrissmith3587 Not true, eventually if you analyse anything, you'll be able to decipher (or think what it means ) how to use it.
How did one create fire then during cold nights? Or How did we ever start building ships?
It's simply seeing what works and what doesn't. If you're having trouble, you have to shift your thoughts.
I knew I will be a programmer in elementary school. Then I had to go through 7 more years of generalized education, then 3,5 of university. I learned less in 10 years of formal education than 3 months as an intern.
Also, kids are being taught why they are taught what they are taught. For a test.
Generalized education is bullshit. I remember going through 6th - 9th grade, forgetting everything and getting everything taught from scratch at 10th grade. Literally wasted thousands of hours of millions of people.
While I fully agree with you and Elon, I also think that there is a great value in broader education. There is so much valuable things even you know nothing about. Finally, vast majority of kids and teenagers haven't got a clue about what will be their profession. IMHO the biggest problem is the lack of good engaging teachers.
Much respect for Elon here: he nailed it.
He followed his dream
This is brilliant, I would have learned way more this way and nature takes humans on this learning path out of curiosity
In my opinion the biggest shortcoming in schooling is the fact that you're not taught how to be smarter, you're only taught to remember what the teacher tells you so you can put it on a test later. At no point in my schooling was I taught how to think better, how to be more open minded, how to see the fundamental reasoning behind why each subject is important. I wasn't taught how to be a critical thinker or to truly be uniquely creative to myself in order to benefit my community. I've had to struggle and am still struggling every day to learn these concepts on my own and the fact that so many people go through life without critical thinking skills is a huge flaw in our education system.
Edit: could be seen as a benefit if you're at the head of the system trying to print factory workers.
Exactly 👍 I agree bro👍
U need more likes. People need to understand the importance of critical thinking.
When people like me support a comment such as this, it's hard to tell if they themselves know what you're talking about right?
People have different levels of understanding on things. And some people just lack understanding on so many of the key points, yet still believe in something. And sometimes it's hard to tell if the people that support your argument actually understand these key points and are truly informed like yourself, or if they're just at that lacking but on the right track stage.
If you felt this, I can relate.
I worked hard in college and a year or two's worth of experience taught me more.
From a teacher to a teacher. Don't be lazy, make your job interesting and others will feel the same. Be a lazy educator and be sure to expect nothing in return. Your growth is a reflection on others. period.
Teachers are needy.
I took, small gas engines, metal castings and electricity in 8th grade, I took basic wood working and basic drafting in 9th grade. I took advanced wood working and advanced drafting in 10th grade. Built a pirogue (Louisiana boat) as my 10th grade project. I now own a successful roofing company and build Harleys and old cars as a hobby. SO GLAD I DIDN’T GO TO COLLEGE! I love what I do.
Educate yourself. Those freaking grades don't matter that much. We need innovative people not those who memorize the rules. Like dude, come on, go out there and put stuff into application. Apply the stuff that you learn, you don't need always to be in theory. Science is interesting if they tell us that with it, we can build rockets, Self-driving cars, AI algorithms, and more. This is why I hate a little bit the school systems, but I love learning. Self-learning is the essential part in becoming a great person in the future. Focus on your passion, your passion is going to give the motivation to continue even if you're in your darkest days. Thank you for reading !
I never went to college. I got very good grades in high school, but I had a bad behavior. I worked my ass off right out of high school. I invested every penny that I could save. I never,ever got in debt. I became a self made millionaire at the age of 37 after I sold my second business. I’m now 48 and doing great. School definitely isn’t for everyone.
School definitely isn't for everyone, but it really does come down to having ambition to better yourself rather than become complacent. However, it also depends on the people you surround yourself with as they do have some influence on your life even in an indirect manner.
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This should be common sense, but many haven’t figured this out. Thanks to Elon for taking the time to say it so well!
Education in the U.S. is now just a meat grinder. I think 9 out of 10 times that a trade school would be far more beneficial than college. If you can get past the idea that manual labor is somehow for people less intelligent (it's not) you can make a TON of money in plumbing, electrical work and construction. The demand is off the charts right now. Poor grades in school are not indicative of low cognitive ability, some people simply don't do well in that setting, and forcing them into it can be harmful. The best mechanic I know dropped out of high school.
I scored very high on IQ tests starting in jr. high. Failed every math class for years until a counselor decided to put me in advanced classes. In those, the why of things that were being taught were part of the course. The difference between engagement and boredom is infinite.
Mr. Musk nailed it on the nose.
Theory is important but practical application is where growth and learning happens
What he describes (teaching kids without giving them the ‘why’) is not theoretically grounded. It’s not practical precisely because it’s not tied to theory. There is nothing as practical as a good theory.
He just has described how i felt about math back in my school years
It's always helpful when you know the "Why?" So you make it the engine that drives you and motivates you. If more kids started knowing their purpose from an early stage they would be more focused on learning ways to achieve their goal. I spent most of my life trying to figure out that purpose. I eventually did. and ever since everything I have done is to lead me towards my goal.
One important thing that should be thought to the older adolescents is the value of investing their earnings. Most people live their lives, working hard and basically just existing but don't achieve anything. I wish I learned about selling calls and puts 10 years ago, because that strategy and real estate is how I have become wealthy
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Now go look at the SpaceX engineering hiring page. They will ask you to submit SAT, GRE, GPA, everything college related. Those fields are required, so if you have no college degree, you can't even apply :D.
Because That's The Regulations Of The Government
I didn't bother to listen to this video. Musk thinks he's some kind of innate genius but the fact is he does hire highly educated people to design cars. There's a big difference between Engineers and Shade Tree Mechanics. And who knows at age 12 that they want to design cars so fundamental education in a formal setting to give humans the basics is necessary. Are humans born knowing what the square root of 2 is or what the RMS value of a sine wave is given its peak? The problem is not with the schools or teachers it's the dumb kids that refuse to do anything other than goof off and stare at their phones all day.
@@timtoolman9940 I am with you. Musk himself is highly educated. People believe what they want to believe, it is a shame that people want to believe that education does not matter.
@@madkilla707 Can you point at a resource that backs that claim because I doubt it's true. Also, the government definitely doesn't mandate that job applicants submit their SAT, GRE, GPA. SpaceX uses these metrics as a proxy of intelligence, just like everyone else. They just present themselves like they don't because it sounds cool. I am a big fan of Elon, but this is crappy, hypocritical PR.
@@petr_kout
What country do you came from?
The most effective learning results from solving problems encountered in the struggle to survive.
Or to make labor easier.
Do people really think, that the inspirational music and the stock videos, does make the video better?
My son is in homeschool since one grade 1 & we explore museums as per learning & more .... great video
‘Teachers do not explain why kids are learning something. ...Teaching WHY is far more engaging.’ EXACTLY! Thanks for sharing :)
Perfect.I wish someone of his stature could have passed this message onto my educators 40 years ago.
If Musk start a school in Mars, damn it I will send my children there
loool. My kids will have to take the bus there every day
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I wouldn't
I'll teach them here only in the best way I can !😂
@@Leo-wi8ts sadly yes
Schools have successfully nulled all means to critically think. I wanted to learn mathematics, but I couldn't when it wasn't applied to useful cases. Of course, that's not how the education structure works. It teaches children en masse the same thing and never branches out physical understanding. I wanted to learn about mechanisms on aircraft, so I'd spend countless hours doing that research on aircraft. Coupled with being financially disadvantaged didn't allow me the means to follow such a dream.
We'd have to be completely asleep to think this current system works. Only helps those with the means to do so. Otherwise, enjoy your life struggling to make ends meet while working 10+ hours in a factory wondering why you're so depressed.
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I have come up with an idea that would work.
In the classroom you have a student that says he doesn't understand what is being taught.
Everyone thing that is taught and every way it is taught, the student says he doesn't understand.
This gets the rest of the class angry and are getting different approaches to subject.
Bang instant genius.
Sometimes, you have to come up with your own answer to the question “why” one needs to learn. You learn to be a better version of yourself. If you can’t convince yourself of that, no teacher will be able to. Also, how much can you realistically expect from a child?
that's true.
I had to learn this the hard way.
I started and dropped out of 2 academic courses because i had bad memory and my brain could only properly process information when it sees the relationship with real life situations. I hated the fact that i had to learn just to pass my semester.
Now im 29 doing a professional course, and its the first time in my life that i actually like going to class, because i feel what im learning is useful and i see how it is.
irrelevance is torturous and cruel so many thousands of hours wasted jumping through hoops training a dog some dogs don't ask why they jump they just do as told for the rewards Universities are full of such creatures
@@somedumbozzie1539 since 1990 the value has decreased while the cost has increased
I remember my brother taught me some shortcuts in calculus and some algos for computer science. I was reprimanded by my professors for not solving it according to their rules. He helped me apply it to developing applications and web development. Now I'm a developer so thanks bro.
I only had 2 teachers that wanted to get the students bodily involved so we could see and understand the 'why'. 'they' think asking why is being impertinent or disrespectful.
I wish the educators would embrace this and change our school system. I agree with what you are saying, school was torture for me also. I was invisible and got very little out of it. Dreaming out the window. Now 50 years later I wish I could have gone to Elon’s school.
If there was anytbing that school taught me it was that I aint good enough. Thats why they failed me. Belittled me and kicked me out multiple times. Teachers only care about a paycheck. These teachers spend more time with the students than the parents. Many kids don't have parents.
The problem is; we can't all be "exceptional".
The world needs ditch diggers too.
I love Elon Musk, I nominate him for president!!
That would be awesome
So do I. He would make a great President no doubt
naw rather he just does what he does and not get wrapped up in politics. His companies would suffer if he became president
no because the party controls the president. Politics is a dirty game and no one person is going to manipulate it or theyll take you down. Musk should focus on colonizing the universe.
He would not accept this nomination because he is genius.
Agreed 100%. It's like wiring in a 3-way switch. You have to understand how the switch operates inside mechanicly before you can wire it up properly.
Elon Musk: A true Genius, with the ability to communicate it to the rest of the world.
Its like he is the second coming of Nikola Tesla, but able understand people and ensure his ideas are incorporated into the world.
He's not a genius, he's just an ordinary man who thinks, puts in effort in what he does, and states his views on certain topics.
Any man or woman can do that.
I'd have to say that I don't think that Elon Musk has a great ability to explain his ideas.
Math, Science, History, Art, Physical Education... it is all important. Good teachers are what every school needs. People who are genuinely interested and passionate about teaching their respective subject.
I pray whoever reads this should become successful. keep fighting for success. the rich stay rich by spending like the poor and investing why the poor stay poor and be spending like the rich yet not investing. Roar! Invest earn and be successful.
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He's so right. My public school education was seriously lacking (STEM subjects, specifically). I can tell you exactly when I lost interest in computer science, math, and chemistry.
Here before it blew up :)
Great video btw! :D
(Got this on my recommendations)
I have been creating adult training. One of the first things is to state objectives, and described what you will be able to do or what you will be able to describe. In this way you fully understand where the training is going, the purpose and what you will be able to do. So he is right just need to do this in schools how Elon described.
Yeah if you don't explain why kids might think it's a waste of time and sometimes it is. Sometimes teachers just have a curriculum and have to teach what they are told to and kids might argue with that. Particularly if they don't like a subject.
Communication is important. Teachers expect kids to "show their work" or explain their thought process in essays but don't do it themselves? Just shut up do as your told? I noticed my grade school report cards also said things like Anna talks too much and it disrupts the class but in high school they said Anna is a great contributor to classroom discussions. I had not changed but some teachers attitudes had.
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I had this discussion this week about having the ability but sometimes being a slow started because I don't have a "why".
Schooling is where young people are exposed to ALL of the basic communication, logic, arithmetic, social skills, and general how to be a person who operates in a system with other people.
Education is the building of one set of skills upon another. Everyone needs the basics as a foundation upon which to build. Every person is unique, but without the fundamentals of our caste system there can be no advancement.
One thing we should not do is to cause a student to specialize early in life. Good musicians often make good computer programmers because they understand organizational skills and by learning music they have learned a second language which is shared by all musicians, but not all brass players are of the skill of Winton.
So, let’s give all the kids a reasonable education as a start and let them sort out their future by being able to communicate with others and understand truth from fiction.
I agree but this raises the question of how long should that 'fundamental' level schooling be? i can safely say that 80 % of my highschool education has absolutely no relevance to what I do for a living today. its like..'here all of you learn this calculus because some of you will become engineers` but your calculus grades will affect your over all GPA, which will, in turn, affect your odds of studying your chosen field, while also making you feel guilty for not measuring up.
@@chaosss444Education system is same as ur user name !
@@chaosss444 We seem to agree a lot! When I taught chemistry in a high school, in my first day of class the students were told that the purpose of the chemistry class was not chemistry, as that could change and they would be the ones to change it, but rather it was to develop in them the ability to think like a scientist. Where possible the chemistry was interwoven with the stories of the men and women that developed the ideas that we were then investigating.
Some students returned to share their pathways thru post high school learning and some even found their way to chemistry. All showed a maturity that comes of engaging the world with the full knowledge that current trends were to be viewed as important within the context of the day.
As for the GPA holding you back; I will agree that it plays an overly significant part in where you can go to school, but the breadth of your life skills will more than compensate for a lack luster or less than stellar GPA. I, personally, was an average student, but have had the opportunity to earn two masters degrees not thru my past academic reference but on a willingness to learn.
Do I attribute any of my life directly to my high school? No, not in a literal sense, but without the grounding and diverse sharing of ideas (without me knowing it was being done) my life would have been very different. My classmates in high school became everything from steel workers to business leaders. All due, in part, to our abilities and the social fabric of our community.
@Paul Boston
While kids should have to learn some basic skills like language, basic math, and history, I think options for specialization should happen early on. The why and how for each field should also be made clearer here.
I'm saying this from personal experience. In first grade I could do 5th grade math, thanks to my parents being good teachers, without any formal education. I begged the teachers for more difficult tasks, but was repeatedly rejected as "everyone has to learn the same curriculum". This is torture through boredom. Imagine sitting for 5 years being forced to do things you already know how to. It kills your curiosity, and ruins your best years of learning. Which is when you're young.
Instead of learning things that were actually useful to my future career, I was forced to repeat tasks I knew how to, memorize the names of musicians I didn't like, learn propaganda in the place of history, learn how to analyze poems in ways they were never intended to, etc.
The quality of our education systems are appalling.
The success of my carrier was not due to anything I learned at school. School actually prevented me from taking initiative in learning for years. The only thing modern schooling ever gave me was social anxiety, and eight years of depression.
The primary purpose of school should be to learn you to think for yourself, research critically for yourself, and how to find the areas you can be productive that fulfill you based on your capabilities.
Modern school fail at all 3.
And more critically, it actively and knowingly kills the curiosity of students, which in that position should be a criminal offence on the part of the curriculum makers.
@@vikingraven4758 We agree. Educators have recognized that children are all unique and their abilities span a vast spectrum. Unfortunately they all arrive at the schoolroom door as a bunch grouped only by their chronological order, and it is up to the school to distribute its resources to fit the needs of all of the students. This is a daunting task because most teachers view their students as individuals that should be taught on their personal levels. As classrooms grew crowded, addressing each student as an individual becomes more difficult and the unfortunate situation arises where both the gifted and the challenged are given less than the attention that is needed.
As the student progresses and the student population is expanded thru merging of lower forums, the sorting of student talents becomes more easily defined and teaching staff more specialized. Where an elementary school teacher teaches the whole child a broad base of skills, as the student progresses their apparent skills become more clear. Students are grouped by their academic performance to better address special needs. At the current time “special needs” is a term most often associated with challenged students, but within the educational community a need for addressing those talented students within the group has been an important topic. By the time the student reaches high school there is a pretty fair understanding of their talents and, during my teaching career, they were grouped so that a teacher could taylor their teaching to fit each group. In my case I taught in two different schools. The first was as small school with two chemistry classes of 22-25 students each. That meant that the grouping was very broad, but none the less it was done with a fair degree of validity. The second high school had three chemistry trencher and each taught five classes of about 20-25 students grouped by academic ability. This gave the administration two sorting criterion; first by student academic performance and second by proficiency of the teacher. Both criterion were judgmental on the part of the administration and neither were revealed to anyone.
In my chemistry classes all students were given essentially the same information, but it was tailored to the students level. The AT (academically talented) students were give an in-depth view with large doses of physics, math and biology as support for the material. In these AT classes I taught chemistry for the first quarter, and we DISCUSSED chemistry for the rest of the year. I could have done the same thing at the first school if the class size was 4 to 5 rather than the 20-25; there was that much difference in the individual student.
I often think of Scouting as an educational model. They don’t address potty training, coloring within the lines, or learning the alphabet. All of that is assumed by the age of a Cub Scout, so the tasks offered (not assigned!) are tailored to challenge and reward. Badges are given for each defined task. By the age of 12 it is realized that the chid has moved on and is ready for a more complex set of tasks and the uniform is changes, the tasks more involved and the responsibilities shifted to the Scout. Always, there is, in Scouting, the image of the “gold” of the Eagle Scout; sort of the phd of youth.
That is a FAR reach from the original premises established by Elon’s presentation, but has afforded us the opportunity of viewing the argument from different perspectives. I hope your math talents were not squashed by the system and appreciate your talents in programming as well as your contribution to this discussion.
Thanks!
My education didn't teach me to be a problem solver, it taught me to be a order following information regurgitator.
Now that I'm an adult and I'm deprived of most of my neuroplasticity I have to relearn how to actually function meaningfully.
you can really tell that Elon has spent some serious time taking apart car engines.......
yeah but sarcasm is usually missed in writing :))))
Different people learn differently, of course. I was always able to figure out the why of having to learn everything, even if I didn't agree with the reason. But I recognize that I was very different than most of my peers.
"i make all the children go like an assembly line"
This is how I teach. I explain the reasons why the subject at hand is important. I do all this through behavior therapy.
CEO’s run business and large companies without a degree and they hire people with a degree to work for them
Trust me, if you apply to Tesla or SpaceX (or The Boring Company or Neuralink) and you don't have the degrees but you have the skills and knowledge - they will hire you. However, many people who do have those things, get a degree, so that's why they hire people without degrees.
Don’t let college interfere with your education...... words to live by.
"(State-run) Education is for dummies!"
- Elon Musk, who taught himself how to code/build an app at 12
i don't think he started the app when he was 12. I think that's when he made a game software which is still impressive. (not trying to bash your comment)
Exactly he had then the understanding or someone told him that take on the project to build the game and innthe process he learned how to code how to put the game together
If he taught himself to code he taught himself leveraging someone else's knowledge. If you want to write embedded code you still have to study the architecture of the processor. If you want to code in C you still have to study the C language. Learning is not an isolated thing. You just don't know things because you are just a genius as this guy likes to think of himself.
@@liammccann3740 and he sold it for frickin' $500 !
For many, many, many decades, the 'education' sector has been scamming people with ease.
Their goal is to have you believe you *need* qualifications, whereas you *don't.*
What you really *need* is knowledge and experience.
Elon needs to create a new education system based on this, imagine an education system that breeds millions of Elon musks, I can tell you there will be a lot of problems solved in this world from solving the climate crisis to solving extreme world poverty
Well like Carlin said you have to teach people HOW to think not WHAT to think lots of people don't consider or analyze things for themselves at all. Free thinking is discouraged it has been for Musk too he has lots of adversaries.
LMAO the solution to exterminating poverty is abolishing capitalism not a million elon musks, people like him are the reason poverty exists in the first place smh
@@abhiasokkumar8536 Brilliant, people who create wealth and jobs are the 'reason for poverty'. Like most communists/socialists, you live in wilful ignorance of history and current events. Also, like most socialists/communists, you probably don't have compassion for the poor, you're just jealous and bitter about those that have more than you. On average, the number of people living in extreme poverty has declined by 47 million every year since 1990. This is generally a result of capitalist systems. Do you know any of the history of communism? Ie, everywhere it's been tried, millions died.
Thirty five years ago I was a maths and science teacher (at a school in South Africa, the country where Elon had his school education). The impediments in teaching which Musk outlines in this discussion were core to our approach. Math and science classes were full of tangible apparatus that the kids were familiar with in their everyday lives, and we encouraged them to find solutions to problems on their own. For the most part (as teachers) we stood aside and watched how they tackled a problem, assisting only when they asked for advice and suggestions.
Today - many of the kids I taught (who are now in their 50's) are leaders in science and engineering, are business owners, and we still keep in touch via Facebook...
I face the "why" every day in my studies in Electrical Engineering.
It's ether in you or it's not
Well, I graduated with mechanical engineering and my “why” was financial freedom and time. I’m 32, making 100k salary, investing in alternative fuels, energy storage, blockchain and cannabis. My investments led me to 150k this year on top of my engineering salary. Hopefully I’ll be able to retire early, focus on things that make me happy and my parents house had a water leak in the main line which I paid for the repairs bc it makes me feel good. I wouldn’t have it any other way and am glad I went to school and graduated with engineering. Good luck.
@Muse Haven Entrepreneurism would be easier with capital. I just think it’s a safer road considering an engineering degree can be paid off within a year once your career is built and you don’t spend it for the Jones.
When I was about 8 years old, we went to dinner at a nice restaurant. This was a very rare occurrence. My Dad "proudly" told me to "order anything on the menu." That was the moment I looked at the prices. My father was a school teacher who sold furniture part time for a second job.
I grew up at that moment. I realized there would be NO MONEY for me and NOBODY would pay my bills. I became an adult. Eventually, I had to do odd jobs like a paper route, selling magazine subscriptions door to door and various part-time jobs while going to school.
It was transformative. All I believe Musk is talking about is about growing up and taking personal responsibility. Without that, education does not occur. Our Leftist political society tells everyone that it is NOT their fault they have failed. It is ALWAYS someone else's fault.
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Great bro👍
This applies to anything. A lot of kids and even adults ask "why are we learning this?" when it comes to mathematics, but the same question is relevant to something like history.
Why should you memorize dates that certain events happened? Isn't that just trivia? If you're just learning it to pass a test, then yes. You might as well be learning who a Hollywood starlet has dated or how many RBI Joe DiMaggio had in his career.
But no, it's not trivia, if you're learning history as a systematic way to understand why things are the way they are, and in turn trying to use that understanding to make better decisions for yourself.
So why learn dates? Because dates help you understand the order that different things happened, and how close together or far apart they are in time, and that in turn helps you with the relationship between those events logically and even causally. And that helps you APPLY the lessons of history. Does it matter that William the Conqueror began his reign in 1066? As an independent fact, then no.
But if that helps you to understand that England wasn't created until well after the death of Mohammed and well before the birth of Ghengis Khan, then yes, it's pretty important. It gives you an idea of the lifespan of nations vs religions, for example, which in turn might help you to understand a modern quandry like how liberal democracies should think about and interact with radical Islamists. For example, simply dropping bombs might not address issues whose foundations are 1000 years in the past.
This is important stuff that history might help you understand, but not if you start by learning dates and names and don't start by answering "why should we learn these things?"
very underrated comment
Excellent comment!
I used to say we needed to be told why we learn subject matter we did at school. I also thought we should be paid to go to school. Invest in the future and all that
Most people venture into Crypto currency to be a millionaire meanwhile i just want to be debt free and live comfortably
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@@kennethbecon5196 you're right Sir, it's obvious a lot of people remain poor due to ignorance It's better to take risks and make sacrifices than to remain poor
@@camilanarianna9817 it's not ignorance but due to some unprofessional broker in the market
I excelled at math, used it for physics, that for chemistry, that for biology. As youngest of the class, I was beaten up by the two most muscled at drawing arts, english, when I sat next to a girl, exploring what I felt. Jealous muscle DNA competing, fearing position of underdog, extinction. All forces in the universe heal you, most those (momentary) on earth.
Bro I was just explaining to a friend about school
Bro is racist it's slang for n word
@@alcaholic6227 lol wut
@@alcaholic6227 what the--?
We don't need billionaire like you but we need billion of people like you proud of that Elon musk is very influential to the world his actions effect the world
Listening to this as I complete my geometry homework 💀
My opinion about why school marks shouldn't be a thing:
"Give people money that isn't based on their work, and it won't be horrors for them."
Dunno. The “why” is totally overrated. And I’m not being sarcastic here: The “why” of today might prevent you from seeing the “why” of tomorrow… Went to an ordinary high school in the 70s (in EUC). Our teachers went to university for about 5-7 years plus had 2 years of on-the-job training. They really knew their stuff. Many of them a PhDs. Standards were high(ish) and art was art (not gluing noodles to a piece of paper) and math was hard-core algebra. There was loads of homework and lots of tests. There were no “team projects” - we were expected to use our own brains. A failed class was a failed class. Two failed classes meant you were out. There were standards and rules. There was no “the climate ate my homework” and the color of your skin didn’t matter either. And there were no helicopter parents and there was no constant complaining by parents. When we got in trouble, we had to live with the consequences. Everybody in my class had a proper career or created one for themselves.
Wrong, fool
THANK YOU!! From your opening statement I needed to know what is a^2+b^2=c^2. OK, It's mostly used to find the hypotenuse of a right triangle. Why and what is a hypotenuse? ALL I NEEDED TO KNOW WAS WHY. You ask the teacher and they don't know so they say stop disturbing the class so I memorized something I had no idea why.
ironically most jobs tesla is offering require some sort of a degree lmfao
I've seen telemarketer jobs requiring degrees these days...
If you really wanted to work there, you would still apply even without the required degrees.
@@hadis5160 u would be rejected by HR and ur resume thrown in the trash
This is false! Tesla does not require degrees, only evidence of competence and exceptional ability.
@@lucarich8711 yeah.. check their jobs page and you will be disappointed
Everybody is born as a scientist. When we learn life's formulas, and understand the correct method for how/when to use them. Life becomes a smooth adventure. Team work is big work, made easy. Blessings to all!
Universities and colleges system destroyed in 5 minutes and 15 seconds