I have to agree with some earlier comments. Not a loss. Just results different from expected. The slabs still will make great tables if the right methods used. Like the epoxy fill of the holes. They become conversation pieces. All unique as can be.
Sad to see the rot in that tree, but you still ended with some really nice boards. You can’t have perfect logs every time, and the planks still still had really nice grain, well done sir. Cheers from Australia.
0:02:06 That must be REALLLLLLLY hard strong wood, for that full slab to stay flat and in place even when down to the last 4 inches to cut, and the width is also only around 6 inches! WOWSERS!!
We are talking about Japanese craftsmen, not americans. Japanese craftsmen are into wood and would not stoop to fucking around with epoxy resin. I think it would be hard to insult them more.
Scientific name is Quecus palustris. "Palustris" is Latin for swamp. This tree is not native where I live and I very seldom see one. They are also short lived for an oak, surviving on average for a mere 120 years. It is called a pin oak because the wood is largely favored for making the pins for timber frame buildings. The wood of a pin oak is rather weak when compared to other oaks.
It's called pin oak because it's full of pin knots. The tree retains sap branches on it's trunk much of its life. As time passes, these branches die, become very hard, and don't easily she'd off the tree. The tree grows around these case hardened limb stobs and when sawn they often fall out of the board, or in the radial plane traverse across the entire face of the board making it incredibly weak. Most pin oak is cut for pallet lumber at best. In Indiana locally we often call it Jack oak, or "piss" oak, because for one the wood of this tree sticks like urine when fresh cut, and secondly, the trees often have shake rings full of water which "pee" all over you when you cut into the tree. I've had some with enough water pressure to push the saw out of the cut and blow water fifteen feet across the woods. In neighboring Illinois there is a sub species that can almost take the appearance of a large bush because the live and dead side branches often hang clear to the ground. Locals refer to them as Spanish oak apparently due to the resemblance to Spanish Cypress. Very difficult to delimb, when I worked over there, I used the skidder blade for stripping limbs, but now we have pull through delimbers which do a great job. Shumard oak is a similar related species in outward appearance in younger trees, but doesn't retain the sap branches past mid age. Large tree's usually cut good lumber similar to true red oak on the outer third to half of the log, with the inner part being similar to that of pin oak. Locally it is often known as swamp red oak. This species of oak is one of the largest of all the oaks. I have cut several over four foot in diameter, largest I ever cut was 87 inches in diameter, solid as a rock, still putting on half inch growth rings!
@@treemanclint2883 Well, my source says that wood from the pin oak was used to make pins which effectively replace nails in timber frame construction. I don't know how we will sort this out because you have made a fairly good case for how Q. palustris came by its common name. Your mentioning the Shumard red oak struck a familiar note with me because the Shumard variety is fairly common in my area.
@@ManuelGarcia-ww7gj where are you from? My guess is, they probably used the actual pin out of the pin knots for barn pegs. They are tuff as iron. I know they throw Sparks from a saw chain, and it dulls up about as fast as sticking in right in the dirt.
@@treemanclint2883 Let me say this, there are no pin oaks anywhere near me and I have only seen a pin oak while driving. I may not have ever seen them then. The pin oak as a native tree has a small range.
I was hoping that a good spirit of the forest had left a pot of gold within . ......o well maybe next time ..do keep up these great videos.all the best. Sorry incase you're not familiar with the saying ALL THE BEST..it's wishing the best of everything iam from Scotland and it's a well known sating here..
Where I live in the southern US, if you ask a sawyer about a pin oak he will tell you "don't bother." Not sure why someone would ship one to Japan Still, fun to see it go through the mill
I live in the southern US , we have a lot of “Pin Oaks “ here .., at least that’s what people here call them , Botanically they are not true Pin Oaks , even though they do resemble them , they are Water Oaks , and they do get quite large !
That's crazy, the entire crotch figure was completely gone! And when you first started milling it, I was thinking: i cannot wait to see the crotch figure on this giant! But the whole crotch was consumed by rot. Still beautiful thoough. Epoxy resin would fill it nicely.
A bit of both, but mostly age. Frankly, that tree was a disaster waiting to happen and somebody noticed it...it was cut down before it fell down and inflicted harm.
Beautiful
Arigato
A big pitch pocket very beautiful
I have to agree with some earlier comments. Not a loss. Just results different from expected. The slabs still will make great tables if the right methods used. Like the epoxy fill of the holes. They become conversation pieces. All unique as can be.
I'm sorry Neil, but epoxy is fuckin' trash. No Japanese craftsmen would even consider using it.
Sad to see the rot in that tree, but you still ended with some really nice boards. You can’t have perfect logs every time, and the planks still still had really nice grain, well done sir. Cheers from Australia.
0:02:06
That must be REALLLLLLLY hard strong wood, for that full slab to stay flat and in place even when down to the last 4 inches to cut, and the width is also only around 6 inches! WOWSERS!!
I wouldn't call that a loss, someone looking for a piece for a live-edge epoxy filled table would probably pay a premium for those pieces. Beautiful.
I say make it a lake table instead of river table. Nice wood and many possibilities!
We are talking about Japanese craftsmen, not americans. Japanese craftsmen are into wood and would not stoop to fucking around with epoxy resin. I think it would be hard to insult them more.
Scientific name is Quecus palustris. "Palustris" is Latin for swamp. This tree is not native where I live and I very seldom see one. They are also short lived for an oak, surviving on average for a mere 120 years. It is called a pin oak because the wood is largely favored for making the pins for timber frame buildings. The wood of a pin oak is rather weak when compared to other oaks.
It's called pin oak because it's full of pin knots. The tree retains sap branches on it's trunk much of its life. As time passes, these branches die, become very hard, and don't easily she'd off the tree. The tree grows around these case hardened limb stobs and when sawn they often fall out of the board, or in the radial plane traverse across the entire face of the board making it incredibly weak. Most pin oak is cut for pallet lumber at best.
In Indiana locally we often call it Jack oak, or "piss" oak, because for one the wood of this tree sticks like urine when fresh cut, and secondly, the trees often have shake rings full of water which "pee" all over you when you cut into the tree. I've had some with enough water pressure to push the saw out of the cut and blow water fifteen feet across the woods.
In neighboring Illinois there is a sub species that can almost take the appearance of a large bush because the live and dead side branches often hang clear to the ground. Locals refer to them as Spanish oak apparently due to the resemblance to Spanish Cypress. Very difficult to delimb, when I worked over there, I used the skidder blade for stripping limbs, but now we have pull through delimbers which do a great job.
Shumard oak is a similar related species in outward appearance in younger trees, but doesn't retain the sap branches past mid age. Large tree's usually cut good lumber similar to true red oak on the outer third to half of the log, with the inner part being similar to that of pin oak. Locally it is often known as swamp red oak. This species of oak is one of the largest of all the oaks. I have cut several over four foot in diameter, largest I ever cut was 87 inches in diameter, solid as a rock, still putting on half inch growth rings!
@@treemanclint2883 Well, my source says that wood from the pin oak was used to make pins which effectively replace nails in timber frame construction. I don't know how we will sort this out because you have made a fairly good case for how Q. palustris came by its common name. Your mentioning the Shumard red oak struck a familiar note with me because the Shumard variety is fairly common in my area.
@@ManuelGarcia-ww7gj where are you from?
My guess is, they probably used the actual pin out of the pin knots for barn pegs. They are tuff as iron. I know they throw Sparks from a saw chain, and it dulls up about as fast as sticking in right in the dirt.
@@treemanclint2883 Let me say this, there are no pin oaks anywhere near me and I have only seen a pin oak while driving. I may not have ever seen them then. The pin oak as a native tree has a small range.
Nice
Dude need to practice better safety. An open blade like that will cut him up in no time. Bad safety practice.
i love that he doesn't just cut a big slab off the side
Arigato
С удовольствием поработал бы на этой пилораме . Смотрю ролики и не могу насмотреться - завораживает !
Surprise, surprise. Too bad for the central planks but well sawn. It doesn't get any better than this.
Wow very nice wood grain Yoshihiro San 😊😊is it very cold i see U wearing winter breaker jacket? Which part of Japan?😏😏😏
Absolutely COOL I've never seen wet rott like that before wow
It’s actually pretty common. It’s a rough log even before they cut it up.
I was hoping that a good spirit of the forest had left a pot of gold within . ......o well maybe next time ..do keep up these great videos.all the best. Sorry incase you're not familiar with the saying ALL THE BEST..it's wishing the best of everything iam from Scotland and it's a well known sating here..
Scotland 🏴
Arigato
Japan🙏
Inside a sawmill with I'm sure tons of scraps, Why wear parkas, don't they have wood stoves for heat?
me falling asleep watching this
The sound of the saw... That's happened to me before too. It's oddly relaxing.
@@MylesGabriel its also seeing the beauty in the grains. each cut is like seeing a piece of history sometimes over a 100 years old
Carpenter ants been busy! I haven't seen many Peek-a-Boo trees in the wild.
Here in North Mississippi we use Penn oak for firewood Carpenter Ants get into everything.
Yes, but you aren't a Japanese craftsmen.
Would like to see you mill some Osage Orange or Logust , Black or Honey
Where I live in the southern US, if you ask a sawyer about a pin oak he will tell you "don't bother."
Not sure why someone would ship one to Japan
Still, fun to see it go through the mill
Because Japanese craftsmen are the best in the world at doing woodwork. Just because you haven't a vision for it doesn't mean others don't either!
下の方腐ってたのか・・・
いつも工場綺麗で感心します
That cavity been inside that tree for 100 years
A chicken does not lay an egg every day. Still a few good slabs even though, Arigato Sir
We have a lot of pun oaks around here, and a lot rot from the inside, then topple over.
Well, if someone wanted a table top/counter with a trash chute in it, there it is.
Fyi you fill the bad spot with resin, hundreds of different color options, looks amazing
Or you could put the chute where you wanted it and fill the gap with resin. Still looking real good.
That’s a Big Hole.....!
I live in the southern US , we have a lot of “Pin Oaks “ here .., at least that’s what people here call them , Botanically they are not true Pin Oaks , even though they do resemble them , they are Water Oaks , and they do get quite large !
I think that some southerners refer to these trees as "live oaks".
No , we also have “Live Oaks “ this is a water Oak I’m referring to
That's no way to use your pistol!
I'm in south Louisiana and most pin oaks are hollow or rotten in the trunks.
That's crazy, the entire crotch figure was completely gone! And when you first started milling it, I was thinking: i cannot wait to see the crotch figure on this giant! But the whole crotch was consumed by rot. Still beautiful thoough. Epoxy resin would fill it nicely.
My god, another one. Japanese craftsmen would be insulted at the very suggestion of using epoxy in woodwork.
some times you win some times you do not keep the saw dust loose
Yes
Arigato
Ouchhhhhhh......!
Glasses..., Carfull please....
👍 ok
Arigato
@@ysasada18 lampung...., Indonesia....
Why are we selling logs logs to export instead of selling the lumber?
Because some customers just want the log and not lumber that has been cut the wrong way for them.
Would the cutting plan have changed if you knew ahead of time about the void and where it was?
Yes
Change change
Arigato
Why it’s a says America......but it’s a looks like in Japan factory!!!
that's so sad, was it age or bugs?
A bit of both, but mostly age. Frankly, that tree was a disaster waiting to happen and somebody noticed it...it was cut down before it fell down and inflicted harm.
Last time I saw a tree like this, it had raccoons living in it.
冒険 です か?
Crotchless!!!!
El sorteo de la once del día 19 de marzo cuando es el sorteo
Its a shame, that would have been an amazing harvest of slabs if not for that heart rot.
Sugoiii
Holy Shit.....!
Did you find a hobbit in that hole?
Good one 👍🏻
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It's use for fire only
My god, the ignorance!
Jaw’s......!
Arigato
absolut amazing. Hope for a good Camera, and some Water on a slab, so that we can see the real Beauty. Nice Greetings.
Arigato
Camera Sony,canon?
4k is important + thumbs up for Japan ;-)
Not a nice surprise ; - (
win some -lose some.................
Yes
That’s right.
Arigato
Ugh. Heart rot from where the crotch split over time. Thanks for sharing 😜
Arigato
Very poor wood quality
That’s the worst oak tree that I ever have seen
How many have you seen though? 3 or 4?
Wow I don't think anyone would have known that was there. Good cutting though
Ohhhhh Beautiful.....!
They got shitted.
The eloquence of it all.
So sorry Yoshihiro, about this log, maybe you can salvage something from it!