Dodgers don’t have more money than the Yankees the dodgers getting away with all this because of the Japaneses .. deferring money is normal but not a billion deferred if another team does that the mlb will get on their ass because they obsessed with othani yamamoto and sasaki
Me as Yankees fan surprise. Probably Mike and Yankee organization. The Yankees won 3 peat by getting about 1 Tier 1 player and majority of player were home grown like Derek Jeter, Bernie Williams, Andy Petite and Jorge Posada . Not the way the Dodgers are doing in last 2 years. Trying to build a super team or All-Star team. This isn’t good for Baseball and the small market teams without deep pockets owners
A salary cap is in order for the Dodgers to stop this madness of getting 1-2 tier 1 players like Shotani and Yamamoto in 2023 off season and now in 2024 offseason Blake Snell, Soki and Tanner Scott that’s 3 tier 2 players. They have deferred billion dollar players salaries
You don't need to be as smart as a hedge fund manager to understand signing Ohtani for $700M is a no-brainer. You just need to know simple subtraction that even a second grader can do: Shohei Ohtani's annual salary: $70M Dodger's annual corporate sponsorship revenues from Ohtani: $70M $70M - $70M = 0 The Dodgers essentially got Ohtani for free. Before his signing, many people thought Ohtani's $700M price tag was overpriced.
@ True. $70M is a low estimate. There are reports it could be $120M or higher. This does not account for his deferred salary, which will be worth much less in the future due to inflation. Because Roki Sasaki wants to play for the Dodgers and his Japanese teammates NOW, the Dodgers are the beneficiary of saving $300M, the amount they would have to pay him had he chosen to come to the states a few years later. As a result, the Dodgers have control over Sasaki for the next 6 years. Ohtani's signing is a gift that keeps on giving.
Here’s the other thing, if you’re a fricking baseball billionaire owner, hire the very best legal and financial people to tell you what and how you could run your team better, how to make the CBA work for you, and how to invest better to make more money. Then present that to your baseball people and say how do we make this work together. But if you’re the one at the top who is meddling or limiting the spending, it’s on you. If your market can’t support it, then say so and live within what you can do, or get more investors, sell or move the team.
Absolutely, but also don’t forget that most of Ohtani’s money is deferred. That means the $70 mil in real value is only $40 mil per year. So no matter the sponsorship money being 70 to 120 or 120 plus, they are making profit off his contract. And that’s not including the on field value he brings (which is excessive in of itself).
How dare does he say the NFL is more competitive than baseball? So he thinks the Chiefs dynasty is parity? Especially with the refs on their side. Did he also forget the Patriots dynasty? Oh yeah he also said the Bengals are competitive. Well guess what? Since paying Joe Burrow the Bengals haven't made the playoffs because the QB wanted too much money, they don't have enough money to build around him. Good luck when Ja'mar Chase gets paid because then the Bengals will be cooked. Most team can't win under the salary cap especially when players want to get paid a lot of money and even threaten to holdout and miss games if they don't get what they want. The NFL is by far the least competitive league right now.
At least smaller market teams like KC can win in the NFL. That’s the point. In baseball, smaller markets like Kansas City are lucky to win the World Series once every 40 years. Smaller market teams like Seattle, Milwaukee, Minnesota, Baltimore, Tampa, Colorado will never win. At least in the NFL any team could win and become a dynasty if they spend their money right. It’s not so much the dynasties, but who is creating these dynasties.
@Dan-tt8sn Dynasties don't make the league more competitive, bozo. Kansas City literally gets help by the refs all the time. Finally players are calling them and fans on social media literally troll the Chiefs with memes of the refs kissing with Mahomes. Nobody respects the Chiefs anymore, bozo. The Patriots dynasty was linked to cheating and the NFL did nothing about it. The NFL Is rigged. So you think cheating is ok and refs rigging games is right? Bozo.
@Dan-tt8snDynasties don't make the league more competitive, bozo. Kansas City literally gets help from the refs all the time. Finally players are calling them and fans on social media literally troll the Chiefs with memes of the refs kissing with Mahomes. Nobody respects the Chiefs anymore, bozo. The Patriots dynasty was linked to cheating and the NFL did nothing about it. The NFL Is rigged. So you think cheating is ok and refs rigging games is right? Bozo.
@Dan-tt8snThe Chiefs get so much help from the refs you bozo. The Patriots got caught cheating multiple times and yet you called that equal playing field? Bozo
For those fans who complain about DJ LeMahieu’s 6-year contract extension not aging well, consider that he wanted 4 years and $100 M, however Cashman wanted to fit his AAV under the salary cap so he reduced the total to $90 M spread over 6 seasons to arrive at $15 M AAV instead of $25 M AAV. If Cashman had given DJ what he asked, his 4 years would have expired by now.
Before the Dodgers won this year, after last year people felt they choked. They didn’t make it out of the first round. Steve Cohen couldn’t get any of these Japanese players. In one year I do not think George spent like this. What is really hurt the Yankees is bad fundamentals. Freddie Freeman really hustles. He is probably going to be a Hall of Famer.
Here are titles of Michael Kay's TH-cam videos back in April 2024: "Is Shohei Ohtani Guilty and Smart or Innocent and Stupid?" "Did Rob Manfred Cover Up Shohei Ohtani Involvement?" "Shohei Ohtani Gets Away with Everything" "Shohei Ohtani Won't Answer Any Questions" I was so happy when the Yankees got taken down by the Dodgers in the World Series and you could argue that without Ohtani this past season, the Dodgers would not have won the World Series.
The 2005 NY Yankees payroll of 205M was 9.54% of MLB's total payroll. For the 2024 season (based on MLB's total AAV of $6.65B) that would be $634M. Dodgers still have 200M+ to go until they reach what the Yankees spent in 2005.
The Yankees never did any slimey 💩 like the Dodgers are doing. I’m not a Yankees fan, but they never pissed everyone off like this. The Dodgers are deferring $1.5B to circumvent luxury taxes and if they lose out, it’s no big deal bc the company is worth $335B. They’re also stealing every top Japanese player bc Ohtani is setting up deals with every future Hall of Famer from Japan before they even come to this country. I believe the owners that suspected he did this. MLB investigated, but they didn’t do anything bc of all the Japanese money they make for MLB. But it’s so obvious what’s going on ever since Ohtani got there. When Murakami goes there next teams are going to strike.
Michael the dodgers won the world series last year and Humilated the yankees in 5 games and this is a better dodgers team then last year so what makes you think the yankees will beat this dodgers team and the yankees have a weaker roster this year your out of your mind dodgers have a super team and a roster thats 100000 better then yankees
I don’t know the answer to the following question. Will deferred money count toward the current thresholds? If not, therein lies the problem for MLB to address.
NPB will be very happy if MLB decide they will do international draft. Cause if that happen NPB player will think twice before going to major league. 😂
U think if the tampa rays offered othani a billion he would’ve sign with them? No why? Because they are small market team how they suppose to compete with the dodgers?
its funny how Cohen and the Dodgers get praised for doing this meanwhile when George did this years ago everyone crucified him called him the devil and he ruining the sport complete hypocrites
MLB needs to put a stop 🛑 to this Dodgers madness of deferring billions dollars of players salaries and getting 2-3 Tier 1 players in trades. Dodgers are going at an exaggerating pace to buy a championship, unlike the Yankees did in 90’s and 2000’s. In 2023 off season they got Shohei Ohtani, Yamamoto,Tyler Glasnow and Teoscar Hernández .Now in 2024 offseason they got Blake Snell, Soki and Scott Tanner. Yankees won three peat with mostly home grown players like Derek Jeter,Mariano Rivera, Bernie Williams ,Andy Petite and Jorge Posada this five players won 3 peats
It’s really not that hard to understand, angel. Yankees HAD to pay to have the players they wanted. Players WANT to defer to play for the Dodgers. If that’s not clear, then you just can’t comprehend/believe that some players don’t want to play for the yankees.
@@keepitmovin4028 That's what's really confusing to me when people use deferrals as some scheme Dodgers are using. Deferrals are BAD for the player. They literally lose money by doing it (unless you're Bonila who negotiated a ridiculous interest rate on his). As you said, this means players want to be a Dodger.
@@keepitmovin4028Players want to defer or they’re just agreeing to it because in the end it’s getting them some extra money years down the line they wouldn’t get with a regular contract without deferrals? Because I doubt that every one of these free agents is just calling the Dodgers front office to tell them “hey we’ll take deferred money to play for you”
Exactly the same. Salary cap numbers (official payroll) don't defer a single $. Deferment impacts cash flows. Think about it this way... the $380 million payroll has a large "Accounts Payable" component that is paid in the future.
@@lecannois yesh I know, I just want to know what is the actual value of the team this season alone. They are paying ohtani like 3 m, but he is worth 70 a year
Barring injuries, if the Yankees meet the Dodgers in next year's World Series => The Yankees will be SWEPT 😮 The Dodgers will be SWEEP every series 11 - 0 😱
Good for the Dodgers, from a Cardinals fan.
i wonder if Michael Kay thought 20 years ago some team would start outspending the yankees like crazy.
Dodgers don’t have more money than the Yankees the dodgers getting away with all this because of the Japaneses .. deferring money is normal but not a billion deferred if another team does that the mlb will get on their ass because they obsessed with othani yamamoto and sasaki
Me as Yankees fan surprise. Probably Mike and Yankee organization. The Yankees won 3 peat by getting about 1 Tier 1 player and majority of player were home grown like Derek Jeter, Bernie Williams, Andy Petite and Jorge Posada . Not the way the Dodgers are doing in last 2 years. Trying to build a super team or All-Star team. This isn’t good for Baseball and the small market teams without deep pockets owners
I applaud the Dodgers and I’m a Red Sox fan. Good for them. They’re spending on great players.
I love how Michael is impartial on the matters. He's always like this. Much respect.
Baseball has not long wanted a cap. Fans don't want a cap. They want their teams to spend.
A salary cap is in order for the Dodgers to stop this madness of getting 1-2 tier 1 players like Shotani and Yamamoto in 2023 off season and now in 2024 offseason Blake Snell, Soki and Tanner Scott that’s 3 tier 2 players. They have deferred billion dollar players salaries
You don't need to be as smart as a hedge fund manager to understand signing Ohtani for $700M is a no-brainer. You just need to know simple subtraction that even a second grader can do:
Shohei Ohtani's annual salary: $70M
Dodger's annual corporate sponsorship revenues from Ohtani: $70M
$70M - $70M = 0
The Dodgers essentially got Ohtani for free. Before his signing, many people thought Ohtani's $700M price tag was overpriced.
Well said. Even thinking you’re being conservative. Massive revenue stream created by Shohei.
Actually the number is 2.8B$ return when factoring in all the returns
@ True. $70M is a low estimate. There are reports it could be $120M or higher. This does not account for his deferred salary, which will be worth much less in the future due to inflation. Because Roki Sasaki wants to play for the Dodgers and his Japanese teammates NOW, the Dodgers are the beneficiary of saving $300M, the amount they would have to pay him had he chosen to come to the states a few years later. As a result, the Dodgers have control over Sasaki for the next 6 years. Ohtani's signing is a gift that keeps on giving.
Here’s the other thing, if you’re a fricking baseball billionaire owner, hire the very best legal and financial people to tell you what and how you could run your team better, how to make the CBA work for you, and how to invest better to make more money.
Then present that to your baseball people and say how do we make this work together. But if you’re the one at the top who is meddling or limiting the spending, it’s on you. If your market can’t support it, then say so and live within what you can do, or get more investors, sell or move the team.
Absolutely, but also don’t forget that most of Ohtani’s money is deferred. That means the $70 mil in real value is only $40 mil per year. So no matter the sponsorship money being 70 to 120 or 120 plus, they are making profit off his contract. And that’s not including the on field value he brings (which is excessive in of itself).
One thing they have to agree on 1st is the cap to the FLOOR. At that's where the discussions end I bet.
Indeed. MLB needs to jettison the cheap owners and replace them with whales who love their teams as we do.
Thanks for posting these! 2 more months till baseball!
Yankee Boy is sad because the Dodgers are the new sheriff in town!! 🤣
Dodgers def not losing money. Ohtani is making them super rich
Dodgers are embarrassing the Yankees
How dare does he say the NFL is more competitive than baseball? So he thinks the Chiefs dynasty is parity? Especially with the refs on their side. Did he also forget the Patriots dynasty? Oh yeah he also said the Bengals are competitive. Well guess what? Since paying Joe Burrow the Bengals haven't made the playoffs because the QB wanted too much money, they don't have enough money to build around him. Good luck when Ja'mar Chase gets paid because then the Bengals will be cooked. Most team can't win under the salary cap especially when players want to get paid a lot of money and even threaten to holdout and miss games if they don't get what they want. The NFL is by far the least competitive league right now.
Exactly. MLB has more parity than any of the other 4 major American leagues.
At least smaller market teams like KC can win in the NFL. That’s the point. In baseball, smaller markets like Kansas City are lucky to win the World Series once every 40 years. Smaller market teams like Seattle, Milwaukee, Minnesota, Baltimore, Tampa, Colorado will never win. At least in the NFL any team could win and become a dynasty if they spend their money right. It’s not so much the dynasties, but who is creating these dynasties.
@Dan-tt8sn Dynasties don't make the league more competitive, bozo. Kansas City literally gets help by the refs all the time. Finally players are calling them and fans on social media literally troll the Chiefs with memes of the refs kissing with Mahomes. Nobody respects the Chiefs anymore, bozo. The Patriots dynasty was linked to cheating and the NFL did nothing about it. The NFL Is rigged. So you think cheating is ok and refs rigging games is right? Bozo.
@Dan-tt8snDynasties don't make the league more competitive, bozo. Kansas City literally gets help from the refs all the time. Finally players are calling them and fans on social media literally troll the Chiefs with memes of the refs kissing with Mahomes. Nobody respects the Chiefs anymore, bozo. The Patriots dynasty was linked to cheating and the NFL did nothing about it. The NFL Is rigged. So you think cheating is ok and refs rigging games is right? Bozo.
@Dan-tt8snThe Chiefs get so much help from the refs you bozo. The Patriots got caught cheating multiple times and yet you called that equal playing field? Bozo
Salary cap in the nfl has done what? How many titles do the pats and the chiefs have between them in the last 20 years?
For those fans who complain about DJ LeMahieu’s 6-year contract extension not aging well, consider that he wanted 4 years and $100 M, however Cashman wanted to fit his AAV under the salary cap so he reduced the total to $90 M spread over 6 seasons to arrive at $15 M AAV instead of $25 M AAV. If Cashman had given DJ what he asked, his 4 years would have expired by now.
Also remember some of those same fans being very adamant saying give him whatever he wants. But I agree with you cash should have made it four years
Before the Dodgers won this year, after last year people felt they choked. They didn’t make it out of the first round. Steve Cohen couldn’t get any of these Japanese players. In one year I do not think George spent like this. What is really hurt the Yankees is bad fundamentals. Freddie Freeman really hustles. He is probably going to be a Hall of Famer.
well now there winning they won in 2020 and 2024 and about to win in 2025
Roki is like the only Japanese player dodgers got through the minor league system. Shohei and Yamamoto came through free agency in the open market.
Let’s go Dodgers 🏆🧢💰
Here are titles of Michael Kay's TH-cam videos back in April 2024:
"Is Shohei Ohtani Guilty and Smart or Innocent and Stupid?"
"Did Rob Manfred Cover Up Shohei Ohtani Involvement?"
"Shohei Ohtani Gets Away with Everything"
"Shohei Ohtani Won't Answer Any Questions"
I was so happy when the Yankees got taken down by the Dodgers in the World Series and you could argue that without Ohtani this past season, the Dodgers would not have won the World Series.
The 2005 NY Yankees payroll of 205M was 9.54% of MLB's total payroll. For the 2024 season (based on MLB's total AAV of $6.65B) that would be $634M. Dodgers still have 200M+ to go until they reach what the Yankees spent in 2005.
Awww,poor Yankees.
Rare Kay W
Corpo baseball is gonna make so much money for the MLB. They'll never change the rules to be more fair if they can make more money.
How do you decide the draft order then if there’s two drafts America. And international? Bad teams get all the talent they can’t pay ?
Post the other show too
Yankees fans bitching is so ironic. They need to stfu. No one feels sorry for them.
The Yankees never did any slimey 💩 like the Dodgers are doing. I’m not a Yankees fan, but they never pissed everyone off like this.
The Dodgers are deferring $1.5B to circumvent luxury taxes and if they lose out, it’s no big deal bc the company is worth $335B.
They’re also stealing every top Japanese player bc Ohtani is setting up deals with every future Hall of Famer from Japan before they even come to this country. I believe the owners that suspected he did this. MLB investigated, but they didn’t do anything bc of all the Japanese money they make for MLB. But it’s so obvious what’s going on ever since Ohtani got there. When Murakami goes there next teams are going to strike.
People still hate us though cause we also won a decade basically
Good thing the Yankees never spent money 🤣
Michael the dodgers won the world series last year and Humilated the yankees in 5 games and this is a better dodgers team then last year so what makes you think the yankees will beat this dodgers team and the yankees have a weaker roster this year your out of your mind dodgers have a super team and a roster thats 100000 better then yankees
Gotta spend to make money, clearly the dodgers are doing that
and it takes money to make money
Funny seeing Yankee fans now wanting a cap lol
I seem to recall Kay crying about how it wasn't fair Soto went to the Mets because the Mets had too much money.
I don’t get the first caller. You can’t punish a team if they haven’t done anything wrong.
Change what you want but there should be no punishment.
Exactly! That guy was just dumb.
the dodgers beat the yankees in the world series last year i don't know what he's talking about
I don’t know the answer to the following question. Will deferred money count toward the current thresholds? If not, therein lies the problem for MLB to address.
NPB will be very happy if MLB decide they will do international draft. Cause if that happen NPB player will think twice before going to major league. 😂
U think if the tampa rays offered othani a billion he would’ve sign with them? No why? Because they are small market team how they suppose to compete with the dodgers?
its funny how Cohen and the Dodgers get praised for doing this meanwhile when George did this years ago everyone crucified him called him the devil and he ruining the sport complete hypocrites
Mets have the 4th highest payroll in Baseball. As of now the Yankees have a higher payroll.
Yankees have no excuse having a hole in 3b
Michel kay says yankees fans cant complain. Then he starts to complain
MLB needs to put a stop 🛑 to this Dodgers madness of deferring billions dollars of players salaries and getting 2-3 Tier 1 players in trades. Dodgers are going at an exaggerating pace to buy a championship, unlike the Yankees did in 90’s and 2000’s. In 2023 off season they got Shohei Ohtani, Yamamoto,Tyler Glasnow and Teoscar Hernández .Now in 2024 offseason they got Blake Snell, Soki and Scott Tanner. Yankees won three peat with mostly home grown players like Derek Jeter,Mariano Rivera, Bernie Williams ,Andy Petite and Jorge Posada this five players won 3 peats
Go Dodgers! 🏆
Life’s not fair. Grow up.
i dont like this defered money not all counting towards the tax 70 mil a year is 70 mil a year not 46 mil
I don’t like mayonnaise
Dodgers are ruining baseball.. they doing it all that just to lose to the dbacks again 😂
Yankees never had over a billion dollars in deferred payments.
Good Ole George didn't need deferrals. He was loaded.
It’s really not that hard to understand, angel. Yankees HAD to pay to have the players they wanted.
Players WANT to defer to play for the Dodgers.
If that’s not clear, then you just can’t comprehend/believe that some players don’t want to play for the yankees.
@@keepitmovin4028 That's what's really confusing to me when people use deferrals as some scheme Dodgers are using. Deferrals are BAD for the player. They literally lose money by doing it (unless you're Bonila who negotiated a ridiculous interest rate on his). As you said, this means players want to be a Dodger.
Ahhhh poor Yankees 😂
@@keepitmovin4028Players want to defer or they’re just agreeing to it because in the end it’s getting them some extra money years down the line they wouldn’t get with a regular contract without deferrals? Because I doubt that every one of these free agents is just calling the Dodgers front office to tell them “hey we’ll take deferred money to play for you”
Loves to rank on Yankee fans!!
For someone whose job is to be knowledgeable about baseball this host’s understanding of deferred compensation is comically poor.
What would be dodgers payroll without deferred money? Assuming they have to pay right away?
ONE zillion dollars
Exactly the same. Salary cap numbers (official payroll) don't defer a single $. Deferment impacts cash flows. Think about it this way... the $380 million payroll has a large "Accounts Payable" component that is paid in the future.
@@lecannois yesh I know, I just want to know what is the actual value of the team this season alone. They are paying ohtani like 3 m, but he is worth 70 a year
All 30 teams need to vote unanimously to enact a lockout. I don't see the Dodgers or Mets (and maybe the Yankees) voting for the lockout.
Barring injuries, if the Yankees meet the Dodgers in next year's World Series
=> The Yankees will be SWEPT 😮
The Dodgers will be SWEEP every series
11 - 0 😱
Cry Cry
That’s the concerning part though. All that crying from the other clubs might lead to a lockout in 2027