Tech Discs - Fairway vs Driver (Is there a difference?)
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Hey everyone! In today's video Chris and I are throwing the Tech disc! These things are super cool and show all your stats which is super helpful while training. Do you think there is a difference between a fairway and distance driver?
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What do you mean "what are the pros doing"? You're a pro.
I've been using tech disc for a year now and I can't get my nose angle below 0 no matter how many "how to" videos I've done, so I'm impressed with your ease of negative nose angle. They say you want to be like-1 to -5 which I totally believe because I throw 55 mph, but can't get past 300'. I get around 1,100 rpm, so nose angle has to be it. I'm usually like +5. One day I'll get it!
Try the overthrow video: from nose up struggle to nose down success. After 4 years of nose up I finally beat it. Though I had to rework my entire backhand form to make it work
The small distance comes from throwing to the ground which happens easily when throwing to a net. Feels funky but thats what it is. Tech Disc is brutally honest which keeps your feet on the ground but also shows all improvements. You can see that downward flight from the free simulator at their website
Positive launch angle plus nose down with loads of spin is my dream.
I've been using a TechDisc for over a year. Some observations: a combined +5 degrees seems ideal for nose angle+release angle. You can have a neutral or even (very) slightly positive nose angle if your release angle is flat. You get a nice, straight golf line. You do need to match the hyzer to the disc stability. You are both hyzering out because the TD standard settings are quite overstable. You can play around with the disc numbers to match what you throw. I have presets for all my main drivers. Also, spin seems unrelated to speed for me... I'll often get 1250 rpm on 59 mph throws and less than that when I max out at 70 mph. Go figure. Must be a grip thing.
This was interesting and fun.
Nice to be able to get some throws in during this cold, cold winter 🥶
I'm in the same area to Chris with the arm speed, spin, and nose angle. If I there was a trade off, I'd give up a bit of arm speed to have a consistently negative nose angle and spin above 1000 rpm like Chantel does. Both of you are amazing players, excited to see how both of you improve this offseason.
The disc resistance bands are awesome for offseason as well!
This is awesome. I have no idea where I would put the net, but I definitely need this tech disc thing. Definitely not putting the net in my living room as there are legos all over the place in here.
Ouch! X -step on legos does not sound like a good time 😆
Nose angle and spin are the most important things. Nose angle is the most important
I have the Teebird tech disc as well and have been working with it for the winter. According to the guys at Overthrow -5 nose angle with a 10* launch is kind of the optimum golf line drive, but anywhere that the 2 numbers add up to a +5 launch (With flat or negative nose) is going to be a "good throw". Try squeezing the disc harder to get higher spin. I have found that if I hold it a little more relaxed through the runup and then grip tighter through the "hit" that my spin jumped up almost 150 rpm. Josh has talked about a more backloaded grip generating more spin as well.
Looks like Chris's nose angle is better with a higher launch angle. Maybe put the net up on something so you're hitting center with a positive launch angle and visualize hitting a point across the room?
Nose angle is everything
I have the same exact net style set up for my practice too. The problem with this particular net is that the catching square is designed lower than what we're using it for. So the main reason why you're basically turfing the disc and not going far, is that your nose angle is pretty negative. Which is a good problem to have; but to see your numbers you expect on the field, you need to increase your launch angle like you would be throwing on the course. Which in our situation, is to throw towards the top of the net (scary I know, need a taller net). Mine is set up outside (I'm in FL) and I can hit that spot and not be scared. The discs in particular, to me, are just for preference of what you like to hold. You can change the flight numbers in the app according to what disc speed you want to practice. Chris and I have the same problem, a lil nose up, so although his launch is low, it's carrying further due to the nose angle.
The simulator on the website will show you how it flew. Hope this helps! Happy training!
I never thought of that being the issue. Thanks for the information it makes total sense!
I have the Fairway tech disc, for me the spin is definitely my grip. However I also know that I get scared to throw into a net indoors and instinctively drop it out of my hand.
Haha, that’s kind of how we felt as well!
Long time ago I had the golf equivalent to measure clubhead speed, angle, etc. Tools like this are good when using a net to get some sort of feedback. If you want to compare yourself to another FPO, about a year ago Taylor Chocek, disctay, made a video with the Tech Disc. If you watch it, be sure to have tissues handy as you're gonna cry when you see her numbers.
Momma always said no throwing frisbees in the house!!!!
Those are NOT "frisbees." Those are discs. Only Wham-o makes "frisbees." 😁
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I've had my TechDisc for almost a year and I've found that throwing inside I take a good 10% off my power. There's just that mental glitch of staring at a wall and not able to really let it rip. I need to paint an open field on the cement wall of my basement...
I thought I heard that the optimal nose angle was -5 degrees. It may have been from Overthrow.
Taking form advice 😂
I had a disk slip out of my hand doing that, and it stuck in the wall.😂
Nose angle will kill distance massively. ideally you should aim for 8-12 launch with - 2 through - 4. spin may be worse on high speed drivers because its hard to get your wrist bent inwards/getting hand behind the disc while holding such a wide rim, my only guess. also i was getting more spin on Halo plastic??
Grip the disc harder, coil your wrist and poor the coffee. Sometimes when I'm trying to throw far and I don't, it's usually timing on my walk up. Planting before you pull is huge!!!! You guys have legit form. I bet you throw harder outside. I could see a mental block throwing inside the living room 😂. Looks fun though.
This is so cool, but would being a little further from the net let the disc spin a second longer allowing the disc to have a better reading??? Idk. But I love your page and follow you guys since the beginning!!!
That’s what I was wondering as well! Does it make a difference? It sucks that we don’t have more space but we may do an update video in the summer when we can set up outside 😄
I'm very interested to see what happens to your results when you guys take the set up outdoors. This would be a great way to warm up a few shots before heading to a local course too.
I looked at our stats from last season when he had it set up outside and we were throwing consistently faster(around 57-60mph) so a little bit of a difference!
From my experience, the distance on Tech Disc is not accurate. The speed and RPM are accurate and that is what we focus on. My son got up to 63 mph and 1340 RPM. My forehand got to 60MPH and 650RPM. Tech Disc is amazing and a great tool.
I agree with this. The data and metrics measured seem to translate pretty close to real world play. The distance is obviously a simulation, so the translation to real world is going to have some variance with course conditions. The most progress I've noticed when using a tech disc is practicing angles on td; taking a break from td; refining golf game; then coming back after awhile to see if metrics have changed. Using both in tandem to train is pretty satisfying to see how each reflects on another. I feel like the course has helped my nose angle more than using a td, but the td helps my keep my hyzer angle integrity. Also showing my speed and spin increasing. Different strokes for different folks - this is just my experience.
@@covertBaron1 what we did was figure out our base MPH and RPM and improve from there. I started at 57MPH and 600RPM. My son was around 60MPH and 1300RPM. We did field work and then retested to see what has worked. Over the last 3 months of work, he is hitting 450ft consistent up to around 475ft, and I am getting about 375ft forehand consistent with my pb of 420ft. The challenge is getting MPH up and still get consistent RPM. If you can do both, distance will go up dramatically.
@@billherrera6386 Im on the same progression! XD Im at 64 mph and 1200 rpm backhand. Real world I sit at 380 and max 410. I haven't been doing field work. I just hit the course. I totally agree. My spin is a lot faster at 80% than 100% But my nose angle makes me suffer the most. Lately it has been getting pretty tight, around +-2 with not too many outliers. I'm happy. Everything takes time.
@@covertBaron1 yeah if you drop your mph to say 62 and get spin to 1300, you would be able to hit 450ft pretty consistent. That is what my son has done and that is why Tech Disc is a great tool.
Seems like its showing you only going 120' because its 4' off the ground. Launch angle is off.
I’ve wondered this same question too…. Have you tried adjusting the disc numbers on the fairway?
The distance always seems a bit off. Like you said, throwing those same shots in a field, we are going 200+ with those shots
Your numbers look very good, except the relationship between launch angle & nose angle. -4 nose angle is wonderful. However, when combined with a +5 launch angle, you get a 180’ worm burner.
Higher launch & keep everything else identical and your distance will increase dramatically.
On the wider rim disc pinch a little harder with ur thumb and if needed bring the wrist in to your self a little but not to much or it effects nose angle the right mix will help
Chris' nose angle issue might be due to the launch angle. He's throwing into the ground... it's hard when throwing into a net
Ehen i did tech disc with experts the better nose angle was +4 to +10
I think the distance is off because you aren't letting the disc fly long enough before it hits the net. At my local shop, they make sure there's 5' or more of disc flight before it hits the net and we don't have the distance issues there.
Out of curiosity, are the weights of the TechDisc molds about the same as the discs you normally throw?
Yes
@@tommyboy4835 - are you answering for them?
I weighed mine. I would have thought it'd be heavy with the puck, but it was 175g.
@ I assumed you were asking a general question. I misread
U should do a standstill and see if can get increased spin
I wonder if a different grip would affect the spin between the two discs. I use different grips between drivers and mids/putters, and I soo want a techdisc to see how the spin is between the two!
You throw a similar speed as me but your spin is consistently 200-300 higher. I wish I knew how to get my spin up like that.
I’m guessing your thumb is placed more towards the edge of the disc? Move your thumb a little more towards the center of the disc, put more pressure on your index finger and don’t forget to curl your wrist slightly. You’ll automatically add more spin
@ I will definitely try that. Thanks man.
I don’t think the distance numbers are correct.
They might not be too far off because the launch angles were very low. putting a target on or behind the net at launch angle of 8 to 10 degrees can help. It is very easy to throw too low into a net. Be sure to limit the number of throws to avoid injury. Really like mine, it is very useful.
ive noticed the distance numbers are very inconsistent when i release close to the net, if they back up a few feet it should "read" distance a lot more consistently
adjust your flight numbers in the app to 12/5/1/2.5 should help with distance
Cool video. The spin rate is a big deal. When the spin stops so does the disc. McBeth puts ridiculous spin on his drives as do many of the top players.
I want more spin!!
recently seen a video with Paul throwing tech disc. he only had 1300 rpm. same with AB. gannon can get 1600rpm. zack nash also 1600rpm 80mph. the main thing with spin is grip pressure and getting your hand behind the disc on pull through. in my opinion.
@ wow thanks for the info I’ve been looking for that. I know when his drives land by you in person they are spinning like crazy. If AB and PM are in that range that must be about as good as it gets. Rickey talks about thumb pressure making a huge difference in spin. I’m digging for that video.
I’m no pro. But what I do know is that the launch angle and nose need to be a net positive (nose plus launch) of 5 to 6 degrees. So at -6 nose you should be launching at 11-12 degrees. You’ll easily get over 300’. Spin has a direct correlation with grip. Tighten that grip for more spin. And lastly, you need more space unfortunately. Tech disc needs at least 2 feet to register properly. You’re probably getting more spin than it’s reading.
You are just throwing into the ground… you might not notice it but because of the enclosed space you are instinctively throwing towards the ground. If you add your nose angle and launch angle it’s barely positive. Why you are not getting “distance” with the math. You won’t do that in the field.
watching this makes me cringe just thinking about my elbow. i messed up my elbow chasing speeds with this disc lol...make sure you take a break
I think you’re launch angle is probably why it’s telling you it’s not going far. I also seem to have a low launch angle when throwing into my net.
Also how to you get your nose angle so low?
That is definitely why! I am not entirely sure but when I look at my slow mos, when I’m in the power pocket the back of my disc is angled upward and when it spins out of my hand it would still be on that angle which would be nose down when I release. LOL, does that make sense? I’m not sure how to explain it
@@missfrisbeesthat would be nose up because the "nose" is on the other side than your hand when disc spins out. I think that your throwing motion compensates the nose angle to be pulled down because for your wrist that is the way to move with least resistance.
@@putkipihvi324 You're both saying the same thing, although its hard to explain what the disconnect is. She's saying that the disc angled up, which means the opposite side of the disc from her hand is pointed down. Then, when the disc rips out, the opposite end is still pointed down, which is now the nose when it's released.
does there need to be a little more space between you and the net for the disc to get a proper reading? or is that the recommended distance/space?
Do you do anything spesific for nose angle?
My guess before watching the video: No, there wont be a difference
What molds are those disc?
Is this for real $300 usd each! Out your mind girly.
Awesome video. 💪🥏💪🥏 I really want a TD mostly so I can show the people I coach what I've been telling them about their throw in data form. Just can't get over how expensive they are.