Y'all joke about the calming effect of the color. I don't doubt the idea, at least partially. Back in my earlier days, a carriers interior was mostly painted a light green for the same reason. Most are white now, and having worked in both, I much preferred the green.
Yeah, hospitals worked on this a lot, too. Even if the effect miniscule - why not? If you're gonna have to paint a cockpit, or a hospital, anyway...why not pick a colour that positive effect, even if it's minute?
It’s kind of funny that their reaction is basically “oh those quirky Russians”, because in the United States teal was a very common color for airliner cockpits in the 30s and 40s, some Douglas airliners had teal cockpits into the ‘60s. Not only that, but lots of steam and early diesel locomotives had teal cab interiors, and even Nuclear Power Plant Control Rooms tended to be that color.
The russians have two historical distinct blue/emerald cockpit colors. MiG in the Soviet days had this very aggressive "emerald" and they now transitioned to a dull grey. Sukhoi on the other hand always had this grey/blue color which I find extremely pleasing to the eye. Again, personal bias, but as a modeler Russian jets were always my favs. No offense boys! 😂
yeah also in stressful situations it showed that it was easier to find all the buttons ect, of its minimal but it shows that they atleast choose it for a reason
I know the mig blue green used in mig fighter cockpits was chosen as it reduced stress in stressful situations . Maybe turquoise is responsible for russian tardiness.... not vodka ?
Funny coincidence? Then why they have tested black, grey shades etc and performed psychological and medical tests when pilots doing their duties and tasks, and come to solution that those are better? All that, what is confirmed in every other area as well that it is so, isn't so but used that paint o let because some factory had major overproduction of that colour metal paint so they were politically demanded to use it in cockpit as nothing other colour existed? Surgery rooms, hospitals, dangerous heavy machines and other stressing environments and where calmness and critical thinking is required are using those colours for that reason as well. Very easy on eyes, and makes you feel calm. Sadly, it doesn't look "tactical" and cool as dark shade grey....
When modernization of su27 started, Russians experimented with side joystick. That is why su37 and su47 had side joysticks, but they decided for final modernized su27 - su35 to have central stick. About cockpit color, it is the same reason why surgeon suit is blue/green color.
@@sasabelov999No, i dont remember details but they are there to reset your vision cause staring into wound for 40 minutes can make you color blind for different shades of red and miss bleeding. Same with staring for long time on the sky can make it difficult to distinguish color on the instruments.
@@robertkalinic335 Yep. People forget how big Russia is and how long they can stay in the air. No wonder su34 cockpit has samovar, toilet and space between seats to lay down and sleep. lol
Keep in mind that this is a T-50 4th prototype cockpit and there is a chance the Su-57 to be quite different/improved. Also as people in the comments pointed it out the blue coloring of russian\soviet jets is for less eye strain and more calming effect on the brain of a pilot after long hours of missions etc
Here is more material to talk about: su-57 stealth nozzles video just dropped today with sukhois anniversary video. There is also never seen before fancy su-57 pilots helmet seen for few moments.
1:32 Russians have a bit of a colorful history with that. The first non test zero-zero ejection came from a Su-24 where the stick caught the ejection handle and activated the seat. The channel Paper Skies did a detailed video on the incident awhile back.
Nope, I doubt that. If you claim such a thing then link a source dated 2009 that the 051 had a touch screen center display like that please. As you said it's a technology carrier and since it was built has seen reworks and iterations. At least I can't find a credible source from 15 years ago with that avionics suite.
@@kontoname He's just giving a reasonable guess. Besides, the prototype was built somewhere between 10-15 years ago and little was known about the Pak-Fa program that time. And to get a source that has solid information dating 2009 is hard to get.
When I flew F-111s, F-15s, and F-117s I would occasionally swap hands on the stick, for one reason or another. Side stick makes that a bit more difficult.
@@Rotaks Yes it is, I would not switch hands for extended periods, but sometimes basic flying with the left hand would work out better depending on the circumstances.
You can joke about that but russians have always taken pilot safety very seriously. I mean the russians have functional ejection systems for helicopters and submarines, neither of which the west has that I'm aware of.
Central stick also gives you option to fly/continue manouver using left hand while with sidestick you are done in case your right hand has some issue or is needed for some switch etc.
Suchoy design bureau actually tried side stick in one of the experimental models (if im not mistaken it was su-37 terminator). But actual pilots who tried it type of control stick hated it and prefer classic one in the center. This is basically the reason why we don't use it today. It was mentioned couple of times in documentaries.
The Russians just showed off their new generation flat nozzle engine for the SU-57 today. Unfortunately for now it’s only on a T-50 prototype but it looks very impressive especially with the build quality and how it’s off set. The nozzles also appear to show air vents for cooling 👀
@@Journey_of_Abundance It's also on The War Zone. There's a little bit of a debate as to whether the canted thrust vectoring is for reduced IR signature or to allow it to retain some maneuverability in yaw like the 3D thrust vectoring on the old engine. It sounds as if the manufacturer and RuAF seemed to prefer the 2D vectoring, but the designers at Sukhoi are obsessed with close-in maneuverability even if it doesn't really matter in the type of combat the Su-57 would likely see.
@VisibilityFoggy Flat nozzles alway reduce IR signature especially with those air vents. The cant will improve roll rate and probably help the aircraft from nose diving if one engine flames out.
I have a pilot question: Are touch screens good to handle in a cockpit? I mean there are moments when a knob works better for me - for example, I was able to write a text message without looking at it - I cant do that with a touch screen. It always needs eye hand coordination..
The screen still has buttons all arround the display frame just like western ones.. my guess its that the main screen would allow touch commands (as it will display 3 or 4 things like the new F-35, F-15EX and so big screen) but also will have commands in the buttons arround the frame
I know in the F35 the touch screen doesn’t work like your phone. It selects something when you raise your finger off the screen so that it’ll work with gloves on
I don't think you could work the regular monitors of a fighter plane without looking at them anyway. So a touch screen doesn't really make a difference from an ease of use perspective. In terms of functionality i have no doubt that it speeds things up and can display more information in a more concentrated space (provided it's well designed) but i don't really trust digital stuff. If it goes out you have no instrumentation. In my opinion, these "modern" stuff are gimmicks and have no place in military hardware.
мне кажется, что главный минус расположения ручки с боку заключается в том, что вы не можете управлять самолетом другой рукой в случае чего. Будь то ранение или еще что-то. Вы просто не можете перехватить штурвал левой рукой или нажимать кнопки, переключатели, тумблеры и прочее не отрывая руку от джойстика, если оно находится на панели справа.
@@AshleyRiot-lf8dwо, эксперты подтянулись, хотелось бы услышать от вас более развернутый ответ, и скажите пожалуйста в каком конструкторском бюро вы работаете или какие самолёты испытываете?
@@Относительность Я работаю в том же конструкторском бюро что и ты, просто постоянно разминаемся. Из Минусов это то что нет нашлемной системы целеуказания, ЭПР как у Су-27, движки старые, крылья лопаются на 9G, ну а еще он выглядит как какая то поделка, из герметика и саморезов, да и у него РЛС дерьмо и ракеты тоже.
@@AshleyRiot-lf8dw да нет, я работаю в другой сфере, но не позволяю себе рассуждать о том, в чем не разбираюсь, и не сужу о вещи прочитав пару статей и посмотрев видео с разбором от "очень уважаемого" ютубера. Но вам виднее, раз говорите что самолёт говно, значит так оно и есть, большое спасибо за развернутый и аргументированный ответ, всего вам доброго.
Re: Cockpit color - Robert Patrick Modell: "The most soothing shade of blue. Very calming, very tranquil. I think the word for that particular shade is Cerulean actually. Cerulean Blue. Cerulean makes me think of a breeze, a gentle breeze. ..." Agent Frank Burst: "Hey Mr. Blackwell, put a sock in it."
Wait til this weekend when we can finally see the SU57's new flight helmet and the new AL51F2 with new 3d vectoring nozzle. There is a trailer already.
@@RichelieuUnlimited Yes, that is the one. People were speculating since that concept came out why the Russian abandoned 3D vectoring and used a concept similar to the F22. The recent trailer of the up coming TV program shows it is actually 3D, it says superior thermal management agaists heat seeking as well.
@@thinhvcoin Good to know. Those new square nozzles are going to eat up any performance increases of the AL-51 over the AL-41 though, square nozzles apparently reduce thrust by 14-17%. And they’re a lot heavier than _conventional_ convergent-divergent nozzles.
@@RichelieuUnlimited Frankly I am more interested in the engineering than the performance itself because we have no idea to begin with. And I hope we will never find out.
In "MiG Pilot," the book about Viktor Belenko (who defected with a MiG-25), he talks about how the cockpit color was for a calming effect. I guess that's what they told him, anyway.
This is still the old cockpit design. In 2025 Sukhoi will launch the Su-57M which is a major upgrade to these essentially prototype models. New engines with 2D vectored nozzles, new EW and comms systems and a completely re-designed cockpit that works with the new VR helmet. Algeria has ordered 12 of these Su-57M's with deliveries staring in 2025.
The fact that is on a pedestal could tell is totally FBW si is just a FFB stick from Forza :D So it could have a short throw and have load cells and HALL sensors and computer would mix them. Also the chair might be pushed forwards and the cover on it could be misleading of the space available.
the russian cocpits are like this in order to make the contrast between the brightness outside, and the darkness of the cockpit a bit less, the cockpits were given a bright colour to be less tiresome for the eyes. the eyes when they see huge differences in colors they need to adjust , just like when you are wearing these cheap sun glasses with other collors than just the normal darker filter , the eyes adjust and see a more blueish color , you can try it by using cheap sun glasses , place one of the sun glasses's lens to one of your eye , and leave the other normal , and you will see big differences
This is actualy old cockpit on one of the protoypes. Wonder what changed if any they did. Helmet was just day or two ago shown along with flat nozzles.
There are different versions of the Russian Su and Mig fighters, where the stick control is on the right panel. The Su-27UB LL (flying laboratory) fighter has a central and right stick control at the same time. There is a photos from 1989 .
I always wondered about the Airbus stick being on the left. Most people are not left-handed, so that doesn't make sense to me. It would be a barrier for me, even as a hardcore gamer.
Why do they keep calling it the Su 57 if it's the T50 prototype? The cockpit of the Su 57 has not been seen yet (at least in my case), everything that is there is from the prototype and not from the final product
When you eject do your legs not hit the instrument panels or flight controls? It would seem like these cockpits are getting tighter and smaller and it would drag your legs across the sharp corners when you get yoinked out of the plane.
Imagine having such a large display, and then just blocking 30% of it by having the stick right in front of it. Makes me think the Screen is a mock-up, or at the very most, an afterthought.
Somewhat related.. you guys know why they didn't transition to a side stick for the super hornet? If it only takes one flight to get used to it.... Side stick just seems to make more sense.
There is science behind this for sure.. The original Windows XP used a color language that used Seafoam green, wich was proven to be pleasing an de-stressing. Till this day, I love Seafoam green. (In tech marketing we use certain colors based on Psychology that denote certain emotions tide to a given error etc. (Green good, red bad.)
The only question is: Why does it have to be like yours? At the end of the day if this plane is chasing you you want have time to think where the stick located or whether it has touch screens or not.
The calming part of light blue has been studied in Europe. A lot of factories there paint the interior with this shade for the employee's sake. Though I can't say if that's why the Ruskies use it on their jets.
Genuine question ; is it possible to keep your hand completely on your side stick if you want to look over your left shoulder ? Are your arms long enough to fully control the jet in this "twisted" stance ? To me, i think the central stick might be easier to keep a grab on "twisted" body situations.. But i never been in a real F16, i cant tell.. But you guys !! ;)
The more you practice head checks in spaces like that, the easier it gets. Cyclists routinely do it with both hands on the handlebars, and they're usually doing it from a more downward facing posture. But at first, it is difficult for them, until they develop it as a skill.
The main LCD screen is "lower" than a stick so... isn't ii block the view of the main screen?? Each time I see the middle stick - I see more and more disadvantages of the center stick.
Find a photo of the cockpit (it's online) of the Yugoslav prototype supersonic fighter from the late eighties. Our engineers made voice commands, digital screens instead of analog instruments, but then that country (ex Yu) bothered the West, so they broke it up Greetings✌️
In most foreign planes like the su57 that type of ejection handle is armed by being pulled back into your crotch area so it won’t really be a problem when you eject
If the canopy was a single piece it would have to go up A LOT because the front shield is pretty long. The canopy slides back instead. This would be a terrible design for the winters of Russia.
Admiring the displays, its been told the russian glass diplays in aeroplanes are sourced from Thales company of France. Because they are not to be had for the Russians because of export sanctions that means delays in production, missing high tech parts they cannot produce themselves. Chinese can copy anything so probably samples are sent there. Delays, delays!
Many Hornet, Viper and F-35 pilots say that AV-8B cockpit Man-Machine-Interface is best there is in western cockpits. The real manual does support opinion forming for that, and it is nothing awful that RAZBAM made to their DCS module. It is annoying that we likely never see promised Harrier rewrite to get cockpit work correctly, but same time that wouldn't likely be case as RAZBAM had constantly made purposely totally incorrect changes to their Harrier. Like the AGM-65 Maverick logic is totally out of reality how it works in real Harrier. The laughable thing is that RAZBAM deletes even bug reports and questions about their design and claim that they use some secret sources, yet they themselves say that real manual should be used to learn their module. But same is with the Su-27S in DCS. It is the original first serial production model, and there are real Su-27SK manual out there, that is export version of S model (K for export). And the real manual tells a lot about the MMI design and capabilities. Sadly Eagle Dynamics doesn't model Su-27S properly either as it is their Flaming Cliffs 3 series that happen to be from 1995 by roots. And they are unwilling to implement real radar/missile functions and capabilities, or real sensor fusion and datalink capabilities, as it would render F/A-18C and F-15E pretty much as underdog. So only changes are that someone would pick Su-27S and do it right. (And no, that isn't the flanker mod either). The west has little information about eastern designs, mainly because ignorance. The common unwillingness to think and question "Do they make things better for some reason?". We even today see these things in military conflict subject discussions where Soviet designs are need to be mocked or underestimated by any means. The Harrier is good example as if it would be made correctly, it would be the most wanted western attack plane in DCS. And if RAZBAM promised free AV-8B+ upgrade would have come around, it would be as well selling as Hornet. What comes to Sukhoi, it is interesting to research Sukhoi engineers explanations why they have placed one button or switch where it is, or why they use center stick instead side stick (as they have tested F-16 kind force sensing, example in Su-37) or why they have display there, there and there, and why their seat is angled as is etc.
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Y'all joke about the calming effect of the color. I don't doubt the idea, at least partially. Back in my earlier days, a carriers interior was mostly painted a light green for the same reason. Most are white now, and having worked in both, I much preferred the green.
Green is easier on the eyes.
That is rather amusing to me, basically baby's playroom color pallet, baby toys daycares and pediatricians offices are all styled like this.
Yeah, hospitals worked on this a lot, too. Even if the effect miniscule - why not? If you're gonna have to paint a cockpit, or a hospital, anyway...why not pick a colour that positive effect, even if it's minute?
It’s kind of funny that their reaction is basically “oh those quirky Russians”, because in the United States teal was a very common color for airliner cockpits in the 30s and 40s, some Douglas airliners had teal cockpits into the ‘60s. Not only that, but lots of steam and early diesel locomotives had teal cab interiors, and even Nuclear Power Plant Control Rooms tended to be that color.
I use light blue color for all my desktop and coding background theme for the same calming reason and it works
The russians have two historical distinct blue/emerald cockpit colors.
MiG in the Soviet days had this very aggressive "emerald" and they now transitioned to a dull grey. Sukhoi on the other hand always had this grey/blue color which I find extremely pleasing to the eye.
Again, personal bias, but as a modeler Russian jets were always my favs. No offense boys! 😂
этому лимону я уже писал года три назад, про то как глаза легче фокусируются)
The blue is chosen as research showed it reduced stress levels in comparison to the harder contrast of gun metal/black.
yeah also in stressful situations it showed that it was easier to find all the buttons ect, of its minimal but it shows that they atleast choose it for a reason
I know the mig blue green used in mig fighter cockpits was chosen as it reduced stress in stressful situations . Maybe turquoise is responsible for russian tardiness.... not vodka ?
It's a funny coincidence that the same color they used for decades to paint all their industrial machines happens to reduce stress levels.😂
Funny coincidence? Then why they have tested black, grey shades etc and performed psychological and medical tests when pilots doing their duties and tasks, and come to solution that those are better?
All that, what is confirmed in every other area as well that it is so, isn't so but used that paint o let because some factory had major overproduction of that colour metal paint so they were politically demanded to use it in cockpit as nothing other colour existed?
Surgery rooms, hospitals, dangerous heavy machines and other stressing environments and where calmness and critical thinking is required are using those colours for that reason as well. Very easy on eyes, and makes you feel calm.
Sadly, it doesn't look "tactical" and cool as dark shade grey....
@@paristo The truth is that they didn't test anything. That was the color they had and that was the color they used.
T-50 is already quite old, the cockpit looks neat. It would be interesting to find out how much the SU-57 has changed from this T-50
This is the new cockpit. The older cockpit that they originally used was basically the same as the Su-35.
@@voidtempering8700 you seriously think they would show the new cockpit? Hahahahahhh
When modernization of su27 started, Russians experimented with side joystick. That is why su37 and su47 had side joysticks, but they decided for final modernized su27 - su35 to have central stick. About cockpit color, it is the same reason why surgeon suit is blue/green color.
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Surgeons have those colors because of blood stains that might come of patient, so they turn brownish and they don't look as bad as red does.😅
@@sasabelov999No, i dont remember details but they are there to reset your vision cause staring into wound for 40 minutes can make you color blind for different shades of red and miss bleeding. Same with staring for long time on the sky can make it difficult to distinguish color on the instruments.
@@robertkalinic335 Yep. People forget how big Russia is and how long they can stay in the air. No wonder su34 cockpit has samovar, toilet and space between seats to lay down and sleep. lol
@@robertkalinic335 Exato. As tonalidades azul/verde servem como um calibrador visual em oposição ao vermelho.
Center stick and force sensing stick isn't necessarily mutually exclusive. For instance, the Gripen has a center stick that moves very little.
Keep in mind that this is a T-50 4th prototype cockpit and there is a chance the Su-57 to be quite different/improved. Also as people in the comments pointed it out the blue coloring of russian\soviet jets is for less eye strain and more calming effect on the brain of a pilot after long hours of missions etc
yeah the guy in the blue shirt will never acknowledge anything like that
Here is more material to talk about: su-57 stealth nozzles video just dropped today with sukhois anniversary video. There is also never seen before fancy su-57 pilots helmet seen for few moments.
the engine nozzles right, yeah looks pretty cool
1:32 Russians have a bit of a colorful history with that. The first non test zero-zero ejection came from a Su-24 where the stick caught the ejection handle and activated the seat. The channel Paper Skies did a detailed video on the incident awhile back.
This is the 051, the first prototype, which is nearly 15 years old by now. I'd wager that this is not the final say in cockpit design for the Su-57.
Nope, I doubt that. If you claim such a thing then link a source dated 2009 that the 051 had a touch screen center display like that please.
As you said it's a technology carrier and since it was built has seen reworks and iterations.
At least I can't find a credible source from 15 years ago with that avionics suite.
Love when people just make stuff up
@@kontoname He's just giving a reasonable guess. Besides, the prototype was built somewhere between 10-15 years ago and little was known about the Pak-Fa program that time. And to get a source that has solid information dating 2009 is hard to get.
no this is the 054
No, this is the actual cockpit. You can see images of the older cockpits which have the same arrangement as the Su-35.
When I flew F-111s, F-15s, and F-117s I would occasionally swap hands on the stick, for one reason or another. Side stick makes that a bit more difficult.
:D BAM!
Isn't the stick "right hand oriented", I mean the buttons position (for thumb)?
@@Rotaks Yes it is, I would not switch hands for extended periods, but sometimes basic flying with the left hand would work out better depending on the circumstances.
So then switching the right hand to the throttle on the left side?
@@gabork.8715 Nah, you can just set the throttle and let it ride. Although that sounds like a fun game of fighter twister.
I like how the designers are forward thinking about _when_ the pilot will have to eject, rather than _if_ .
Zvezda seats are highly praised for their quality. Both from russians and western pilots who once ejected with them.
You can joke about that but russians have always taken pilot safety very seriously. I mean the russians have functional ejection systems for helicopters and submarines, neither of which the west has that I'm aware of.
6th gen Russian fighters are going to have an ejection button on the stick
@@theussmirage its actually a button for launching missiles but for some point it ejects enemy pilots
@@Real_Claudy_Focan They are a heavy seat though.
4:48 Guys, it's a gaming cockpit with Virpil or WinWing stick base 😅
Blue is a calming color, and is a nice secondary benefit. I doubt it is the primary reason.
Just so happens to be the base primer for the whole aircraft haha
@@xivkya6882 the primer for the rest of the plane is yellow like the J-20 though...
Paper skies has a great Su24 story regarding the proximity of the ejection handles and the center stick involving an accidental 0-0 ejection.
Central stick also gives you option to fly/continue manouver using left hand while with sidestick you are done in case your right hand has some issue or is needed for some switch etc.
Sky blue paint is popular the the old Soviet-sphere. People paint their houses, fences, garages, road rails. It's everywhere.
Suchoy design bureau actually tried side stick in one of the experimental models (if im not mistaken it was su-37 terminator). But actual pilots who tried it type of control stick hated it and prefer classic one in the center. This is basically the reason why we don't use it today.
It was mentioned couple of times in documentaries.
Side stick doesn't give you options to control the plane with your preferred hand.
The Russians just showed off their new generation flat nozzle engine for the SU-57 today. Unfortunately for now it’s only on a T-50 prototype but it looks very impressive especially with the build quality and how it’s off set. The nozzles also appear to show air vents for cooling 👀
Where can I see this?
Russian defense forum or parlay forum (the latter is in Russian so you will have to use google translate like I did).
@@Journey_of_Abundance It's also on The War Zone. There's a little bit of a debate as to whether the canted thrust vectoring is for reduced IR signature or to allow it to retain some maneuverability in yaw like the 3D thrust vectoring on the old engine. It sounds as if the manufacturer and RuAF seemed to prefer the 2D vectoring, but the designers at Sukhoi are obsessed with close-in maneuverability even if it doesn't really matter in the type of combat the Su-57 would likely see.
If the engine mount is on a circular track, it could be a true 3D flat nozzle.
@VisibilityFoggy Flat nozzles alway reduce IR signature especially with those air vents. The cant will improve roll rate and probably help the aircraft from nose diving if one engine flames out.
I have a pilot question: Are touch screens good to handle in a cockpit? I mean there are moments when a knob works better for me - for example, I was able to write a text message without looking at it - I cant do that with a touch screen. It always needs eye hand coordination..
The screen still has buttons all arround the display frame just like western ones.. my guess its that the main screen would allow touch commands (as it will display 3 or 4 things like the new F-35, F-15EX and so big screen) but also will have commands in the buttons arround the frame
I know in the F35 the touch screen doesn’t work like your phone. It selects something when you raise your finger off the screen so that it’ll work with gloves on
@@jucoco1 Smartphone touch screens work with gloves on as well, as long as the fingertips have special material. Bikers are very fond of these.
I don't think you could work the regular monitors of a fighter plane without looking at them anyway. So a touch screen doesn't really make a difference from an ease of use perspective.
In terms of functionality i have no doubt that it speeds things up and can display more information in a more concentrated space (provided it's well designed) but i don't really trust digital stuff. If it goes out you have no instrumentation. In my opinion, these "modern" stuff are gimmicks and have no place in military hardware.
DC-9’s and early production MD-80’s had a similar shade of blue used in the flight deck. Trust me, there’s nothing soothing about the color. 😉
Yes because MD-80s and DC-9s are totally gonna shoot shit down.
@ Lighten up Francis.
@ or you could just try being funny.
@ I thought it was rather funny!😅
мне кажется, что главный минус расположения ручки с боку заключается в том, что вы не можете управлять самолетом другой рукой в случае чего. Будь то ранение или еще что-то. Вы просто не можете перехватить штурвал левой рукой или нажимать кнопки, переключатели, тумблеры и прочее не отрывая руку от джойстика, если оно находится на панели справа.
Этот самолет один сплошной минус.
@@AshleyRiot-lf8dwо, эксперты подтянулись, хотелось бы услышать от вас более развернутый ответ, и скажите пожалуйста в каком конструкторском бюро вы работаете или какие самолёты испытываете?
@@Относительность Я работаю в том же конструкторском бюро что и ты, просто постоянно разминаемся.
Из Минусов это то что нет нашлемной системы целеуказания, ЭПР как у Су-27, движки старые, крылья лопаются на 9G, ну а еще он выглядит как какая то поделка, из герметика и саморезов, да и у него РЛС дерьмо и ракеты тоже.
@@AshleyRiot-lf8dw да нет, я работаю в другой сфере, но не позволяю себе рассуждать о том, в чем не разбираюсь, и не сужу о вещи прочитав пару статей и посмотрев видео с разбором от "очень уважаемого" ютубера. Но вам виднее, раз говорите что самолёт говно, значит так оно и есть, большое спасибо за развернутый и аргументированный ответ, всего вам доброго.
@@Относительность Ну так не позволяйте себе рассуждать о том в чем вы не разбираетесь.
I like it , it has an appropriate amount of switches knobs and buttons
The blue interior increases horsepower and makes the plane more maneuverable.
Red go faster
Re: Cockpit color -
Robert Patrick Modell: "The most soothing shade of blue. Very calming, very tranquil. I think the word for that particular shade is Cerulean actually. Cerulean Blue. Cerulean makes me think of a breeze, a gentle breeze. ..."
Agent Frank Burst: "Hey Mr. Blackwell, put a sock in it."
Wait til this weekend when we can finally see the SU57's new flight helmet and the new AL51F2 with new 3d vectoring nozzle. There is a trailer already.
A picture I just found shows F-22 like nozzles, but angled. Is this the new nozzle design you’re referring to?
@@RichelieuUnlimited Yes, that is the one. People were speculating since that concept came out why the Russian abandoned 3D vectoring and used a concept similar to the F22. The recent trailer of the up coming TV program shows it is actually 3D, it says superior thermal management agaists heat seeking as well.
@@thinhvcoin Good to know. Those new square nozzles are going to eat up any performance increases of the AL-51 over the AL-41 though, square nozzles apparently reduce thrust by 14-17%. And they’re a lot heavier than _conventional_ convergent-divergent nozzles.
@@RichelieuUnlimited Frankly I am more interested in the engineering than the performance itself because we have no idea to begin with. And I hope we will never find out.
@@RichelieuUnlimitedOooohh, thanks. I needed explanation how Russians are actualy bad at this. I am sure you know better than their engineers.
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If you push the green button, it drops a peanut for the squirrel who powers the displays on his treadmill. 😅
In "MiG Pilot," the book about Viktor Belenko (who defected with a MiG-25), he talks about how the cockpit color was for a calming effect. I guess that's what they told him, anyway.
The Eurofighter also uses a pedestal-mounted center stick.
This is still the old cockpit design. In 2025 Sukhoi will launch the Su-57M which is a major upgrade to these essentially prototype models. New engines with 2D vectored nozzles, new EW and comms systems and a completely re-designed cockpit that works with the new VR helmet. Algeria has ordered 12 of these Su-57M's with deliveries staring in 2025.
Algeria isn't buying this thing. Where are you hearing this from?
@@CoffeeAndPaul It's in the news.
Building the plane was easy but adding a touchscreen was tougher😂
That looks like my home cockpit and flight set up but just in baby blue
Short throw shifter good in car, short throw HOTAS good in plane. Just kidding, don’t yell at me.
The fact that is on a pedestal could tell is totally FBW si is just a FFB stick from Forza :D So it could have a short throw and have load cells and HALL sensors and computer would mix them. Also the chair might be pushed forwards and the cover on it could be misleading of the space available.
the russian cocpits are like this in order to make the contrast between the brightness outside, and the darkness of the cockpit a bit less, the cockpits were given a bright colour to be less tiresome for the eyes. the eyes when they see huge differences in colors they need to adjust , just like when you are wearing these cheap sun glasses with other collors than just the normal darker filter , the eyes adjust and see a more blueish color , you can try it by using cheap sun glasses , place one of the sun glasses's lens to one of your eye , and leave the other normal , and you will see big differences
The interior is the same "seafoam blue-green" color the Russians used back in the days of the Mig-21. Some things never change.
I wonder if that stick gets in the way of the center display at all for the pilot
Large touch screen display...you guys should check out the F-35 and F-15EX cockpits....same thing.
This is actualy old cockpit on one of the protoypes. Wonder what changed if any they did. Helmet was just day or two ago shown along with flat nozzles.
It got the new engines yesterday too, can you do a video about that?
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There are different versions of the Russian Su and Mig fighters, where the stick control is on the right panel. The Su-27UB LL (flying laboratory) fighter has a central and right stick control at the same time. There is a photos from 1989 .
I always wondered about the Airbus stick being on the left. Most people are not left-handed, so that doesn't make sense to me. It would be a barrier for me, even as a hardcore gamer.
Seems to me the actual "grip" part of the stick blocks a bit of the center screen.
Just move it out of the way.
Why do they keep calling it the Su 57 if it's the T50 prototype? The cockpit of the Su 57 has not been seen yet (at least in my case), everything that is there is from the prototype and not from the final product
They'll never change that colour
Eurofighter has the same flightstick to ejection cord layout.
The stick-on-pedestal arrangement looks similar to the Eurofighter Typhoon to me.
F-16 sidestick only moves roughly a half inch with a 70 pound pull. (I was an F16 Phase guy at the Kun for 4 years)
When you eject do your legs not hit the instrument panels or flight controls? It would seem like these cockpits are getting tighter and smaller and it would drag your legs across the sharp corners when you get yoinked out of the plane.
Pretty old nav box stuck up on top of the coaming, like an afterthought. Couldn’t they get that info onto one of those great big screens?
Imagine having such a large display, and then just blocking 30% of it by having the stick right in front of it. Makes me think the Screen is a mock-up, or at the very most, an afterthought.
Somewhat related.. you guys know why they didn't transition to a side stick for the super hornet? If it only takes one flight to get used to it.... Side stick just seems to make more sense.
Ivan stole the design for my Maule cockpit ... 🤔 ^v^
Quick question, Why the T-50 doesn’t have the screeching howl? And what do you think the howl’s for ?
Early prototypes did not have a radar blocker, and with its appearance a howl appeared
Literally the L39 has the EXACT same shade of blue (as well as the MiG-23).
I did a few videos in DCS with the Su-57 Mod, it is pretty awesome
doesnt the stick block some visual of the 55 inch samsung display?
There is science behind this for sure.. The original Windows XP used a color language that used Seafoam green, wich was proven to be pleasing an de-stressing. Till this day, I love Seafoam green. (In tech marketing we use certain colors based on Psychology that denote certain emotions tide to a given error etc. (Green good, red bad.)
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Have you seen the new thrust vect nozzles?
The only question is: Why does it have to be like yours? At the end of the day if this plane is chasing you you want have time to think where the stick located or whether it has touch screens or not.
The calming part of light blue has been studied in Europe. A lot of factories there paint the interior with this shade for the employee's sake. Though I can't say if that's why the Ruskies use it on their jets.
Blue paint is a calming color that's the reason the Russians use it
I wonder if that seat cover is pushing ejection handles slightly towards the stick.
It looks like the stick is in front of the display. Could it be two small displays on the side and the middle part is actually useless?
gronki and mover you should check out new pictures of su57 testing with 2d flat nozzles and comment on it
Genuine question ; is it possible to keep your hand completely on your side stick if you want to look over your left shoulder ? Are your arms long enough to fully control the jet in this "twisted" stance ?
To me, i think the central stick might be easier to keep a grab on "twisted" body situations.. But i never been in a real F16, i cant tell.. But you guys !! ;)
The more you practice head checks in spaces like that, the easier it gets. Cyclists routinely do it with both hands on the handlebars, and they're usually doing it from a more downward facing posture. But at first, it is difficult for them, until they develop it as a skill.
There are some videos in youtube - inside cockpit of f--16 or f-22. You can see how they move inside cockpit when they do manouvers.
Short vs Long air refuled flights?
I think the Russians have the right idea with the centre stick - More Eric "Winkle" Brown, less Super Mario.
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Can you share your opinion about Rafale Cockpit? please.
Movers just butthurt that he likely will never get to fly a Felon 😜
And yes Mover.. for you you were pretty fair 😉
Why is the stick so close to the screens? Wouldn't it be blocking the middle screen?
The main LCD screen is "lower" than a stick so... isn't ii block the view of the main screen??
Each time I see the middle stick - I see more and more disadvantages of the center stick.
Find a photo of the cockpit (it's online) of the Yugoslav prototype supersonic fighter from the late eighties. Our engineers made voice commands, digital screens instead of analog instruments, but then that country (ex Yu) bothered the West, so they broke it up
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Inside blue is to reduce eye strain. idk what difference it would make from black or anything similar.
Is the stick blocking the pilot's view of the center display?
Do you think the russians will remove the vertical keels? su57 is a platform for the 6th generation as well
In most foreign planes like the su57 that type of ejection handle is armed by being pulled back into your crotch area so it won’t really be a problem when you eject
Next time discuss the ladder! 😂
Cyrillic letters too because westerners are used to Latin 🤣
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The cockpit is blue cause they had some leftover paint from the fuselage and wings
The Soviets never showed their best or exported their best. Odds are whatever they show in public, they have or are developing better.
The blue must be a job lot as all the civ airframes are in the same blue 😂
Scrapyard Evolution....
I thought the best "calming" color was the pinkish-tan seen in some jails/prisons.
They say taupe is vey soothing...
Hey gonky and cw lemoine . You guys should check a new video that Russian su57 test new engine with flat nozzel like f 22 raptor 🇺🇲
funny to watch them struggle to give the plane any credit. even the colour " because its cheaper " lol. So american :)
"A lot of stuff is happening in a very critical space"
I am wondering how much the stick is obscuring information on the main screen.
Hornet all had a stick down the middle with a screen. The pilot towers it
If the canopy was a single piece it would have to go up A LOT because the front shield is pretty long. The canopy slides back instead. This would be a terrible design for the winters of Russia.
Similar set up stick/ejection handle real estate in the Typhoon 🤔
Man, Mover really let those trolls get to him. Just say what's on your mind like you used to.
Admiring the displays, its been told the russian glass diplays in aeroplanes are sourced from Thales company of France. Because they are not to be had for the Russians because of export sanctions that means delays in production, missing high tech parts they cannot produce themselves. Chinese can copy anything so probably samples are sent there. Delays, delays!
Su-37 had the side stick btw, the Russian didn't like it obviously
Looks like 1980's vintage.
Many Hornet, Viper and F-35 pilots say that AV-8B cockpit Man-Machine-Interface is best there is in western cockpits.
The real manual does support opinion forming for that, and it is nothing awful that RAZBAM made to their DCS module.
It is annoying that we likely never see promised Harrier rewrite to get cockpit work correctly, but same time that wouldn't likely be case as RAZBAM had constantly made purposely totally incorrect changes to their Harrier. Like the AGM-65 Maverick logic is totally out of reality how it works in real Harrier.
The laughable thing is that RAZBAM deletes even bug reports and questions about their design and claim that they use some secret sources, yet they themselves say that real manual should be used to learn their module.
But same is with the Su-27S in DCS. It is the original first serial production model, and there are real Su-27SK manual out there, that is export version of S model (K for export).
And the real manual tells a lot about the MMI design and capabilities. Sadly Eagle Dynamics doesn't model Su-27S properly either as it is their Flaming Cliffs 3 series that happen to be from 1995 by roots. And they are unwilling to implement real radar/missile functions and capabilities, or real sensor fusion and datalink capabilities, as it would render F/A-18C and F-15E pretty much as underdog. So only changes are that someone would pick Su-27S and do it right. (And no, that isn't the flanker mod either).
The west has little information about eastern designs, mainly because ignorance. The common unwillingness to think and question "Do they make things better for some reason?". We even today see these things in military conflict subject discussions where Soviet designs are need to be mocked or underestimated by any means.
The Harrier is good example as if it would be made correctly, it would be the most wanted western attack plane in DCS. And if RAZBAM promised free AV-8B+ upgrade would have come around, it would be as well selling as Hornet.
What comes to Sukhoi, it is interesting to research Sukhoi engineers explanations why they have placed one button or switch where it is, or why they use center stick instead side stick (as they have tested F-16 kind force sensing, example in Su-37) or why they have display there, there and there, and why their seat is angled as is etc.
They’re hiding the Garmin.
i assume this is the T50 model and not nessarily one for one what a su-57m has in their