Just to speak on the extremity of Carol’s actions: At this point I think Carol killing Karen and David is a direct result of her feeling guilt about not being more pro active to keep Sophia safe coupled with her promise to keep Mika and Lizzie safe I think she did her best with Sophia but she hardened after having so much hope only to have been wrong the entire time She watched other people (Daryl (Rick) being almost self-sacrificial for the group And she witnessed Shane do some unthinkable things to keep the group safe and especially to keep his family alive All those things plus Ed formed her into a weird if not misguided amalgamation of ultimate protector.
This was a pretty good slow episode slow is important sometimes A lot happened because we got to know a little more about Bob and his addiction we got to see Daryl opening up more and accepting that Rick and Co are his family now and We got the chance to discuss The Carol and Rick dilemma as for this slow episode itself really enjoyed it I loved the character development and everything about it.
At 4:46 Daryl was looking for a Jasper Stone for Mrs Richards, she is from Woodbury from season 3, she asked Daryl before she went in quarantine to look for Jasper Stone for her husband grave, her Husband Mr Richards was killed in season 4 episode 2, rip Ana at 20:09, poor Bob at 25:07, Rick was right at 25:29 Karen and David could have survived, rip Karen, David, Mr Richards and Ana, gone to soon
Great episode The acting between Melissa McBride and Andrew Lincoln was just amazing If you can tell everything Rick is thinking based on his facial expressions then you know he’s an incredible actor I don’t think he’d planned on sending her off immediately but the trip was to gain insight on her motives so he could make the decision Unfortunately for her her coldness towards the couple he was trying to recruit and her showing how capable she was is what helped him make his decision I do not agree with him thinking she’d hurt Carl or lil ass kicker though when she did what she did to help protect them Sure she was wrong but I’m still team Carol on this Rick shouldn’t make this decision alone there’s a council for that.
Just a reminder Phil and Erika to take a break if you feel like your getting burnt out we when watching it on going had breaks between seasons just a tip for if you start to burn out
I always hated Rick's decision for leaving Carol. When I look back on it, Rick was in the wrong too. He left a vacuum in leadership when he became a farmer and that's why Carol told him he can't just be a farmer, so she stepped up and took control. She was still wrong for doing it though and should have consulted with the others first.
I think it's absolutely absurd for Rick to not trust Carol around his children. I mean, come on...she would never harm any members of their group, especially children.
I mean, I guess we never really saw what this community was like during the off-season. But, I assume people could make the argument that Karen and David were a real part of their group. And she did that to them. But if you're talking about the OGs -- yeah, I can see that a bit more. But as a parent, that little bit of doubt about her character might be enough for me, honestly. What if my kid gets sick (not bitten)? Is she gonna off them without telling me and try to cover it up?
@PhilipManzano Yeah, I'm a parent myself, so I definitely get that question. But, the answer is no, she wouldn't...and yeah, I was referring to the original members. If it was Maggie and Daryl or Glenn and Hershel, there's no question about it, she would've never done that. I mean, it was wrong, but I get her mindset. She thought they were gonna die miserably anyway and she was trying to stop it from spreading. Btw, hell of a job from Erika being able to call Carol on it so damn fast. Most of the fandom back in the day was shocked, and all the reactors I've watched too. So, wtg 👍😁
I think Daryl was pissed at him, because Zack died the first time he was considering taking a bottle, which he was willing to forgive, but then he took another and refused to let his bag go even when it delayed them. I guess it wasn't a huge deal that he didn't let it go right there, but I think it showed Daryl that even after Zack died because of it, he still hadn't learned his lesson.
I wasn't sure tbh, but googled it and someone else said this in another comment. "He never grabbed medicine. He walked in and saw the book on the bed, and under the books was a bottle of liquor. That's really all he grabbed."
@Mrdood999 well I guess I would be pissed then, too. Why wouldn't he grab the medicine, though? That seems like a simple thing to do. I feel like this is a case of some deleted scene that explains more. Oh well. I appreciate the replies though!
@Greg7791 Yeah, I think Michonne and the others grabbed the meds they needed, but even so I don't understand why they wouldn't grab some more stuff as well, just in case. I'm sure they would need other types of medicine at some point. Seems like a waste to leave a whole bag empty, other than the alcohol.
Bob consistently makes the wrong choices, this is why I previously compared him to Andrea. They are the same kind of annoying characters, even while being quite different personality-wise. They were going for a "young Hershel"-vibe with Bob, but it doesn't really work, because the dude just can't do anything right.
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Just to speak on the extremity of Carol’s actions:
At this point I think Carol killing Karen and David is a direct result of her feeling guilt about not being more pro active to keep Sophia safe coupled with her promise to keep Mika and Lizzie safe I think she did her best with Sophia but she hardened after having so much hope only to have been wrong the entire time She watched other people (Daryl (Rick) being almost self-sacrificial for the group And she witnessed Shane do some unthinkable things to keep the group safe and especially to keep his family alive All those things plus Ed formed her into a weird if not misguided amalgamation of ultimate protector.
This was a pretty good slow episode slow is important sometimes A lot happened because we got to know a little more about Bob and his addiction we got to see Daryl opening up more and accepting that Rick and Co are his family now and We got the chance to discuss The Carol and Rick dilemma as for this slow episode itself really enjoyed it I loved the character development and everything about it.
Rick saved Carol by sending her away That’s the way I see it Great reactions Phil And Erika.
I don't know how you guys talk through those last few minutes when that song is playing...I just get full body chills every time 🥹
Yeaah -- watching it back now, we definitely missed a huge emotional moment.
At 4:46 Daryl was looking for a Jasper Stone for Mrs Richards, she is from Woodbury from season 3, she asked Daryl before she went in quarantine to look for Jasper Stone for her husband grave, her Husband Mr Richards was killed in season 4 episode 2, rip Ana at 20:09, poor Bob at 25:07, Rick was right at 25:29 Karen and David could have survived, rip Karen, David, Mr Richards and Ana, gone to soon
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Great episode The acting between Melissa McBride and Andrew Lincoln was just amazing If you can tell everything Rick is thinking based on his facial expressions then you know he’s an incredible actor I don’t think he’d planned on sending her off immediately but the trip was to gain insight on her motives so he could make the decision Unfortunately for her her coldness towards the couple he was trying to recruit and her showing how capable she was is what helped him make his decision I do not agree with him thinking she’d hurt Carl or lil ass kicker though when she did what she did to help protect them Sure she was wrong but I’m still team Carol on this Rick shouldn’t make this decision alone there’s a council for that.
Just a reminder Phil and Erika to take a break if you feel like your getting burnt out we when watching it on going had breaks between seasons just a tip for if you start to burn out
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I am biased because I love Carol, but i was so mad for Carol when Rick left her 😂
Haha I’m sure you’re not alone.
I always hated Rick's decision for leaving Carol. When I look back on it, Rick was in the wrong too. He left a vacuum in leadership when he became a farmer and that's why Carol told him he can't just be a farmer, so she stepped up and took control. She was still wrong for doing it though and should have consulted with the others first.
I think it's absolutely absurd for Rick to not trust Carol around his children. I mean, come on...she would never harm any members of their group, especially children.
I mean, I guess we never really saw what this community was like during the off-season. But, I assume people could make the argument that Karen and David were a real part of their group. And she did that to them.
But if you're talking about the OGs -- yeah, I can see that a bit more. But as a parent, that little bit of doubt about her character might be enough for me, honestly. What if my kid gets sick (not bitten)? Is she gonna off them without telling me and try to cover it up?
@PhilipManzano Yeah, I'm a parent myself, so I definitely get that question. But, the answer is no, she wouldn't...and yeah, I was referring to the original members. If it was Maggie and Daryl or Glenn and Hershel, there's no question about it, she would've never done that.
I mean, it was wrong, but I get her mindset. She thought they were gonna die miserably anyway and she was trying to stop it from spreading.
Btw, hell of a job from Erika being able to call Carol on it so damn fast. Most of the fandom back in the day was shocked, and all the reactors I've watched too. So, wtg 👍😁
I hated Rick sending Carol away! She was acting very cold though and she didn’t handle the situation properly! 😢
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I struggled with my feelings about this episode. Again, that's what TWD does to you
Why is Bob taking the alcohol such a big deal? Can someone explain that?
I think Daryl was pissed at him, because Zack died the first time he was considering taking a bottle, which he was willing to forgive, but then he took another and refused to let his bag go even when it delayed them. I guess it wasn't a huge deal that he didn't let it go right there, but I think it showed Daryl that even after Zack died because of it, he still hadn't learned his lesson.
@Mrdood999 didn't the backpack also contain the medicine they took though? I just don't get what the big deal is. I feel like I'm missing something.
I wasn't sure tbh, but googled it and someone else said this in another comment. "He never grabbed medicine. He walked in and saw the book on the bed, and under the books was a bottle of liquor. That's really all he grabbed."
@Mrdood999 well I guess I would be pissed then, too. Why wouldn't he grab the medicine, though? That seems like a simple thing to do. I feel like this is a case of some deleted scene that explains more. Oh well. I appreciate the replies though!
@Greg7791 Yeah, I think Michonne and the others grabbed the meds they needed, but even so I don't understand why they wouldn't grab some more stuff as well, just in case. I'm sure they would need other types of medicine at some point. Seems like a waste to leave a whole bag empty, other than the alcohol.
Bob consistently makes the wrong choices, this is why I previously compared him to Andrea. They are the same kind of annoying characters, even while being quite different personality-wise.
They were going for a "young Hershel"-vibe with Bob, but it doesn't really work, because the dude just can't do anything right.