In style of play, he's Makar/Hughes/Niedermayer. According to the scouting, he won't be as dominant (based on what we've seen) as any of those. Imagine somewhere in the 10th-20th best all-round defenseman in the league. He should be in contention to be a first pair defenseman, with a complete game and strong hockey sense, on probably any team in the league. But unless he massively improves, he's not a Makar or a Hughes. They're projecting him to be better than Hagens, Misa or Martone, but if you have 8-10 very good defense prospects already and not nearly as deep of a forward prospect pool, you choice is either draft what you need or draft Schaefer with the plan on trading some of your top defense prospects to teams for top offense prospects.
He's been fun to watch in Erie, explosive on cuts. I hope the Hawks can get him. Bonus, he's such a great kid, always smiling and talks to kids during signings he'll change any room for the better! They can always move up in the draft with picks,prospects to get their forward
Maybe let's question KD totally messing up last years draft.. Ivan Demidov is lights out right now, and Levshunov isn't going to develop into this team needs.. his play so far this year is absolutely terrible and worrisome.
Id take Schaefer if I'm sure I can trade levshunov and maybe something else like a 3rd rounder for another top 4 pick so could get Hagens , Martone or jar jar. Two picks in top 4. Ohhhhhhh
The mistake was passing on Demidov for Artie last year. Schaefer is twice the prospect Artie is and Demidov is better than any forward in this draft. Still, I think they should take Hagens or Misa. Right now they're looking like an unheard of complete homegrown top 8-9 D-corp. Vlasic, Crevs, Allan, Del Mastro, Kiser, Artie, KK, and Ritzel. Rinzel is RH, point a game and a +14 in NCAA. Dude is a NHL player for sure. They have to draft a forward.
he might be moved to colorado by the trade deadline on march 7th, theres been a lot of rumours moving around right now, GMKD has been at the past few avalanche games, and its been rumoured avs like jones, i would geuss 2-3m retained
Does it matter Davidson has been a disaster since taking over in 2021. Minus Bedard what has he done but make other NHL teams better and make us a bottom feeder. I told you all to get RID of him. 🤨 As for your question he won't take him anyway because of his magnificent mind. 🧠🧐 The difference of being a good GM than a bad one is the good ones will find the 💎while the bad ones like ours will bury this team into mediocrity at best. Still waiting for his 22 and 23 draft picks to show up. And here's a thought quit drafting 17 year olds 😑
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Another great move by our genius GM Davidson. We just acquired our 3rd round pick we gave away plus to make the trade good for Carolina we ate half of the salary which comes to 4.5M. Like I said pure genius.
Lol hawks making pointless stupid money costing trades now. 6 million dollars is worth "vauable" 3rd round picks? I was kinda hyped jones was getting traded for rantanan. Turns out were just paying for guys now to just not play here
I would take Shaefer with the 1st overall pick and package the Tor 1st round pick with Vlassic to the Sharks for their first round pick. Then, I would take Martone or Hagens with that pick. Give up something to get something. Edward Vlassic I believe was on the Sharks, so the PR would be real good for the Sharks.
Marc-Édouard Vlasic, not Edward Vlassic. The Sharks have as many strong forward prospects in their system as Chicago has solid defense prospects. If Chicago had a pick and Shaefer was still around, they'd send you an equally good forward prospect for the pick. The very skilled defense is what they need, not a later round first pick. The only way you get the Shark's own pick (1st-4th overall) is if your first pick is earlier and Shaefer is still around. If Chicago plans on Hagens/Misa/Martone anyway, you could swap earlier 1st for later 1st and get something in addition. There is zero chance either team will give up the 1st-4th overall pick and not get the other team's 1st-4th overall in return.
Michael Misa.
if Schaefer is that good you draft him... and package the others for another forward/center..
I agree .. maybe kd will actually choose best player
like ivan demidov
In style of play, he's Makar/Hughes/Niedermayer. According to the scouting, he won't be as dominant (based on what we've seen) as any of those. Imagine somewhere in the 10th-20th best all-round defenseman in the league.
He should be in contention to be a first pair defenseman, with a complete game and strong hockey sense, on probably any team in the league. But unless he massively improves, he's not a Makar or a Hughes.
They're projecting him to be better than Hagens, Misa or Martone, but if you have 8-10 very good defense prospects already and not nearly as deep of a forward prospect pool, you choice is either draft what you need or draft Schaefer with the plan on trading some of your top defense prospects to teams for top offense prospects.
He's been fun to watch in Erie, explosive on cuts. I hope the Hawks can get him. Bonus, he's such a great kid, always smiling and talks to kids during signings he'll change any room for the better! They can always move up in the draft with picks,prospects to get their forward
Quality now.! not quantity...we need bonafide starters now !
Maybe let's question KD totally messing up last years draft.. Ivan Demidov is lights out right now, and Levshunov isn't going to develop into this team needs.. his play so far this year is absolutely terrible and worrisome.
Id take Schaefer if I'm sure I can trade levshunov and maybe something else like a 3rd rounder for another top 4 pick so could get Hagens , Martone or jar jar. Two picks in top 4. Ohhhhhhh
The mistake was passing on Demidov for Artie last year. Schaefer is twice the prospect Artie is and Demidov is better than any forward in this draft. Still, I think they should take Hagens or Misa.
Right now they're looking like an unheard of complete homegrown top 8-9 D-corp. Vlasic, Crevs, Allan, Del Mastro, Kiser, Artie, KK, and Ritzel. Rinzel is RH, point a game and a +14 in NCAA. Dude is a NHL player for sure. They have to draft a forward.
If the Hawks get the 1st pick they should take Schaefer.
Pat, Schaefer just turned 17 in September.
I hope the hawks get Schaefer that a good draft
If Schaefer is the unicorn analysts says he is then position shouldn't matter. Draft the unicorn.
Who would the hawks take from colorado if jones is sent there? Mittelstadt? Ritchie? 1st? Manson? rights to mikko in the offseason?
you're listing top 4, but you left out Jones. Are you assuming they can move him?
I think they can move him 100% @ 50% retain with another team
he might be moved to colorado by the trade deadline on march 7th, theres been a lot of rumours moving around right now, GMKD has been at the past few avalanche games, and its been rumoured avs like jones, i would geuss 2-3m retained
@@ThatGuyAlex69 no chance hawks retain 50% that would be worse than buying him out
@@johnsolo74frank Serivali just called that out and said there is nothing around that. KD was watching his prospect Aiden Thompson
@johnsolo74 if the trade was to happen they would retain 25 and another team retain the other.
BPA ALL THE WAY!
Yes if they trade Kourchinski for a high pick or young forward.
Lev is not a slam dunk top 4 guys. Schaefer be a slam dunk and in nhl sooner.
See what the trade market is for the pick.
It’s Misa or Martone you trade up on your second I think bear
It was a great episode to listen. Thank you, guys, and have a nice weekend.
Sorry, he’s coming to the Shark Tank!🦈
Don't the Hawks have Toronto's 1st round pick in 2025 and not Tampa's?
Yes they have Toronto’s
The stuffy white bread guy on the left needs to put out some more personality or warmth.
Very cardboard. Stiff.
Kaiser shouldn't be mentioned as part of the Hawks future, hopefully he's moved before the TDL
Does it matter Davidson has been a disaster since taking over in 2021. Minus Bedard what has he done but make other NHL teams better and make us a bottom feeder. I told you all to get RID of him. 🤨 As for your question he won't take him anyway because of his magnificent mind. 🧠🧐 The difference of being a good GM than a bad one is the good ones will find the 💎while the bad ones like ours will bury this team into mediocrity at best. Still waiting for his 22 and 23 draft picks to show up. And here's a thought quit drafting 17 year olds 😑
Exactly! Rebuilds should ONLY take 1/2 years your SPOT on
Uhhhh....this comment has to be a troll comment lol it is right???.....right....
@@bryantlawson6270 no chance bros not trolling, look at those fn emojis
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Another great move by our genius GM Davidson. We just acquired our 3rd round pick we gave away plus to make the trade good for Carolina we ate half of the salary which comes to 4.5M. Like I said pure genius.
MiSA OR HAGENS. END OF.
Lol hawks making pointless stupid money costing trades now. 6 million dollars is worth "vauable" 3rd round picks? I was kinda hyped jones was getting traded for rantanan. Turns out were just paying for guys now to just not play here
There’s no way we would willingly trade for Rantanen, it would cost a fortune.
@meatrider4995 i totally agree, it's just a whatever trade. Just like everything else with adavidson, in the immortal words "it iz,wut it tiz..."
I would take Shaefer with the 1st overall pick and package the Tor 1st round pick with Vlassic to the Sharks for their first round pick. Then, I would take Martone or Hagens with that pick. Give up something to get something. Edward Vlassic I believe was on the Sharks, so the PR would be real good for the Sharks.
Lmao don’t trade vlasic wtf are you smoking…
shhhhh
Marc-Édouard Vlasic, not Edward Vlassic.
The Sharks have as many strong forward prospects in their system as Chicago has solid defense prospects. If Chicago had a pick and Shaefer was still around, they'd send you an equally good forward prospect for the pick. The very skilled defense is what they need, not a later round first pick.
The only way you get the Shark's own pick (1st-4th overall) is if your first pick is earlier and Shaefer is still around. If Chicago plans on Hagens/Misa/Martone anyway, you could swap earlier 1st for later 1st and get something in addition. There is zero chance either team will give up the 1st-4th overall pick and not get the other team's 1st-4th overall in return.
Yes defense wins championships but we need offense...we took a D with the #2 pick last year plz dont draft shaffer😅
Levshunov is NO Schaefer. Nowhere near. Kid could be makar