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  • @mathemaniac
    @mathemaniac  ปีที่แล้ว +84

    So I decided to make a series on Lie theory! Hopefully wouldn't get too stressed about making another video series - last time I was hoping to see the end series simply because my interests simply waned by the last video in the series. However, because this topic is a little more closely related to what I will do in the future, I am hopefully a lot more interested in it. Anyway, enjoy!
    P.S. The next video is going to be a little "easy" for some people, but it is to let everyone on the same page, and honestly there will be some further and more specific motivation to study Lie groups in general.

    • @itzakehrenberg3449
      @itzakehrenberg3449 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am quite happy that you are doing this & look forward to future videos in the series.

    • @tissuepaper9962
      @tissuepaper9962 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      "too slow" is better than too fast in a TH-cam lecture series, don't worry about making the lectures too easy. Those of us with shorter attention (or more advanced knowledge) have long since learned how to put the video on 2x speed. One of the problems I have had with Michael Penn's videos about Lie theory is that he assumes a lot of domain knowledge that I don't have. I'd much rather have it spelled out in excruciating detail and skip over the parts I already know.

    • @landynillar
      @landynillar 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you see how all this affect the algebraic language.i think that many mathematicians forgot that mathematics language attributes are primary to numerical attributes.

  • @davidjohnston4240
    @davidjohnston4240 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    I like big brackets, I cannot Lie.

    • @timbeaton5045
      @timbeaton5045 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      On a completely different note, there was an American author of Science f=Fiction called Leigh Brackett.
      No relation!

  • @ayearninghope
    @ayearninghope ปีที่แล้ว +36

    “Numbers measure size, groups measure symmetry.” - Mark A. Armstrong
    I have been self-studying lie groups & algebras recently, this series will be an excellent companion to my pre-existent knowledge of this subject. Cheers & godspeed!

    • @utof
      @utof ปีที่แล้ว +2

      wow, what a quote!!!!

    • @ayearninghope
      @ayearninghope ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@utof came across it in the text 'Physics from Symmetry', it has some really nice quotations.

  • @mathemaniac
    @mathemaniac  ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Finally decided to make a series on Lie theory! Hopefully I wouldn't be too stressed out about making a video series again - that's one of the problems in my previous ones as I became too impatient in getting to the end of it.

  • @GordonHugenay
    @GordonHugenay ปีที่แล้ว +45

    Great! I often encounter Lie theory, and I understand the definitions, but I still don't feel that I have a satisfying intuition. This series might be very helpful!

  • @rdbury507
    @rdbury507 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Thanks for this. I've studied Lie algebras, but the textbooks I've read usually just start with axioms for the bracket operator with little or no motivation. No one ever said "it's meant to be like Galois theory." Btw, whenever I hear the phrase "Lie bracket" I think of the sci-fi writer Leigh Brackett. I'm pretty sure they're not connected though.

    • @mathemaniac
      @mathemaniac  ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The content is nothing like Galois theory, to be honest. However, that was what prompted Lie to study symmetries, which is something I did not know before researching for this video series!

    • @LemoUtan
      @LemoUtan ปีที่แล้ว

      Is Leigh Brackett discreet though?

  • @benburdick9834
    @benburdick9834 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Excited for this series! Finally, something to demystify what it was I was doing in my classical mechanics course, lol!

  • @Null_Simplex
    @Null_Simplex ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love symmetries (groups) and I love smooth manifolds, yet I’ve never learned Lie groups despite knowing they were important to me. Thanks for this series!

  • @loopylare
    @loopylare ปีที่แล้ว

    I very much appreciate this initiative to teach and explain Lie Algebras. I am an engineer and this mathematics is not normally taught, yet it is very useful in my field (e.g. finite rotations, nonlinear manifolds, etc.). I am self taught, but the lack of formal education has made it tricky to master it. It's nice to see your videos on this and start to understand the root of the concepts.

  • @ANONAAAAAAAAA
    @ANONAAAAAAAAA ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm really looking forward to this series!
    My current extremely poor understandings of Lie theory are as follows, which I really want to upgrade from.
    - Dealing with continuous groups means you have to think of infinitely small change of the group elements, just like deriving velocities from positional changes
    - For studying infinitely small changes of continuous groups, you have to investigate the tangent space spanned on the identity element of the group or the changes form the identity.
    - You only need to care about changes from the identity because any change can be transformed to the change originated from the identity element just like this: a '+' da = a(e '+' a^-1da) = a(I '+' da')
    - Plain tangent spaces are actually not enough to capture the noncommutativity of the groups, for which we need special operator on the tangent space called Lie bracket.

  • @sekirokratos3755
    @sekirokratos3755 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can’t wait for the lessons. Keep up the good work, @mathemaniac!

  • @carloselfrancos7205
    @carloselfrancos7205 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can't wait for all of those videos !!

  • @MaxxTosh
    @MaxxTosh ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I’m so excited, I’ve been waiting for a good explainer for Like theory!

  • @namannarang2721
    @namannarang2721 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm super excited this means a lot since lie groups have always been a a future plan of mine to stufy

  • @Achrononmaster
    @Achrononmaster 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    @3:54 little tip: don't say "quantum spin". There really is no such thing. It's just rotational symmetry but of local structure in spacetime rather than global. Spin groups are classical. Quantum mechanics has nothing to do with spin per se, and quantized spin is not a thing. What is quantized is spacetime topology, which provides us with the local structure. What *_is_* a thing are the commutation relations between the generators, but they are classical too, however in classical mechanics since we can measure to arbitrary accuracy we don't employ them, but we do worry about commutativity when we cannot measure to arbitrary accuracy and so when the commutators do not vanish we get incompatible observables. All the "quantum" is in the entanglement structure (the reason why we cannot measure to arbitrary accuracy), not the spin structure. The spin structure is classical really, fermions are natural in classical GR (if you use the spin connexion, not the metric, or if you prefer, two gauge fields, one for positon gauge and one for rotation gauge), and can be well described in a real Clifford algebra of rotors which also works for QM. Spinors are just scaled rotors. In other words, spinors are not particles per se, they are instructions. But what for? Answer: Instructions for a theory of measurement (how to translate a laboratory frame onto a particle's co-moving frame).

  • @gurkiratsingh7tha993
    @gurkiratsingh7tha993 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    Noicce content, this guy deserves 1 million likes

    • @cryptonative
      @cryptonative ปีที่แล้ว

      Did my part

    • @agrajyadav2951
      @agrajyadav2951 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      100 likes from real maths students > 1 million random yt likes

  • @sulfursw9286
    @sulfursw9286 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh wow, always wanted to understand this topic! I wish you inspiration and success on this project.

  • @morphismmap4617
    @morphismmap4617 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Eagerly waiting for this series, hope you could shed some light on its application in control system.

  • @zhuolovesmath7483
    @zhuolovesmath7483 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wonderful, wonderful. I haven't taken lie algebras yet. Looking forward to this series!

  • @JakubS
    @JakubS ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excited for the series!

  • @probcsh
    @probcsh ปีที่แล้ว

    Never really did Lie group in grad school. Thank you for filling this void for me

  • @friendly_hologram9597
    @friendly_hologram9597 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looking forward to this! I've come across quantum groups in some work I'm doing at the moment, but I haven't ever studied lie groups/algebras in their own right. I'll be teaching myself this topic over the summer so it's a nice coincidence that you're planning on covering it, hopefully it'll help build my intuition :)

  • @simbarashebepete407
    @simbarashebepete407 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for providing context. It makes the subject matter more accessible. Looking forward to the video series.

  • @Phantores
    @Phantores ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm excited to see more after actually knowing the initial motivation

  • @doubter7761
    @doubter7761 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cant wait for the next video. Thank you for your work.

  • @kylebowles9820
    @kylebowles9820 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dang this is going to be awesome! Looking forward to it

  • @hansolo9892
    @hansolo9892 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    holy smokes I screamed for lie groups but I cried why it was only 4 mins.
    edit: the series is gonna be wild

  • @GiovannaIwishyou
    @GiovannaIwishyou ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait for this 😊I'm studying Coxeter groups so it would be interesting to find out more about Lie's theory.

  • @YindiOfficial
    @YindiOfficial ปีที่แล้ว +1

    AGAIN THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS IM SO EXCITED 😭😭😭

  • @chriskindler10
    @chriskindler10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is going to be great. I am looking forward to the spin 1/2 chapter !

  • @jake-o3843
    @jake-o3843 ปีที่แล้ว

    damn, i finally find a captivating series on lie theory, want to check out the other videos, only to realize it was uploaded 8 hours ago :(

  • @1Anket
    @1Anket ปีที่แล้ว

    You are a great teacher. Would also love to see a video on Fourier transform from you someday in the future

  • @johnchessant3012
    @johnchessant3012 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looking forward to this!

  • @mistertheguy3073
    @mistertheguy3073 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m so excited!

  • @yash1152
    @yash1152 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:39 thanks for quotng some, _any_ source other than wikipedia.

  • @ReaperUnreal
    @ReaperUnreal ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Whelp, I'm excited.

  • @cykkm
    @cykkm ปีที่แล้ว

    Can't wait!!! Hope it's going to be a really deep dive. Lee brackets are used in physics, both GR and QFT, but only as an applied tool, I don't have an intuition for them. Symmetries, of course, all over. I was going to learn this topic for a long time! It's so fortunate that you're starting this series, thank you!!!

  • @maxwibert
    @maxwibert ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm really excited to follow this series. I turned on my bell!

  • @narfwhals7843
    @narfwhals7843 ปีที่แล้ว

    Gaolis... what a guy. French Revolutionary. Arrested and locked up. Revolutionized math while in prison. Rejected by Poisson as incomprehensible. Gets released. Fights pointless duel. Dies at 20...
    If that is all i learned because of this video I'll count it a success. Looking forward to this series :)
    You talked about continuous symmetries without mentioning Noether's Theorem? How can you be so brave?!

  • @nucreation4484
    @nucreation4484 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really looking forward to this series. Subscribing

  • @SilentAdventurer
    @SilentAdventurer 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It would be interesting to describe linear regression in Lie algebra terms too. I have not seen that happen before.

  • @rafaellisboa8493
    @rafaellisboa8493 ปีที่แล้ว

    YESSSSSS LETSGOOOO LIE SERIES

  • @cocoabutter5888
    @cocoabutter5888 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    These videos are incredible! What textbook would you recommend with this?

  • @Utesfan100
    @Utesfan100 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am hoping for some exceptional vidoes in the future. :)

  • @JCisHere778
    @JCisHere778 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lie Groups are quite the rabbit hole to go down :). But I have to disagree with the statement that Lie-Theory applied to differential equations did not catch on... I believe his reduction algorithm for ODEs is implemented in most CAS software and covers most standard methods. (Except for Integration multipliers. Which, however, are closely related)

  • @ominollo
    @ominollo ปีที่แล้ว

    Great intro! I can’t wait! Thanks 🙏

  • @CristhianDebarros
    @CristhianDebarros ปีที่แล้ว

    It is good to understand The classes of symmetries, and how they are connected with a pure and simple Lie algebra.
    I can understand the formal definition of a space of symmetry as a finite Lie-algebra $f_{1}$ in $\{f_{1}, p\}$ since $p= n$ (so p is any integer ) , which acts freely on the functions $f_{1}$ . Then it is $\{f_{1}, p\}= Sym_{\bullet}$ since the associative algebra $f_{1}+ p|_{\varphi}$ limits all finite and simple Lie algebras. Now there exists a $\{f_{1}, p_{k}\} o that only limits to $p_{k}$ , here the Lie-algebras are semisimple in $\Psi{} (r)$ , since the equivalences in $p_{k}$ or their symmetries are only local, for example $p_{k}= R^{n+k}$ which constructs only local symmetric spaces of a Lie semialgebra, in $Sym (p_{k }):= R^{n+k}\times R^{n-1}$ .note that when a Lie-algebra $f_{1}$ is simple throughout $p$ it acts freely on $p$ and arises a concept in algebra and geometry called -Global space or group $G_{2} (X)$ Which proves that $p\in{} 1,2\} in Every semialgebra $p\in{} \{1, 2_{ 0}\} such that the algebra is only associative on $1$ . Here arises an idea from Clliford of the vector-Mukai $v$ that is semi-orthogonal in $v^{+}\to{} M$ here the semi-simple Lie-algebra of $p_{k} is studied on that vector $v$ $....
    In general, a symmetry is always a Lie-algebra that is associative,

  • @eguineldo
    @eguineldo ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For anyone interested in the history of mathematics, Isaak Yaglom has an amazing book about Felix Klein and Sophus Lie.

  • @guyarbel2387
    @guyarbel2387 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you, can’t wait

  • @MarckUrcia07
    @MarckUrcia07 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm waiting for the videos.🤩

  • @TranquilSeaOfMath
    @TranquilSeaOfMath ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice introduction to the topic.

  • @Matt-yu8xc
    @Matt-yu8xc ปีที่แล้ว

    15 links in the description! Nice.
    How about 16th link. A link to Part 2?

  • @user-vo3dc6je2g
    @user-vo3dc6je2g ปีที่แล้ว

    That's great! Have you charted a tentative timeline for the videos?

  • @watcher8582
    @watcher8582 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm not sure if "...still very useful, not necessarily differential equations" is accurate. Especially if you then pull up their use in physical systems, which are for a large part of it part all governed exactly by differential equations. The symmetries of these equations and Lagrangians (be it in classical mechanics or field and particle theory) are how they come into play. Maybe it can be said that they did "not dominate the study of differential equations" (as there are many methods in that field), but in the other direction when Lie groups are applied, then it's exactly because of their relation to differential equations. Even if in the math department the Prof's there will teach these groups in abstract isolation (just how they present group- and manifold theory also).

    • @mathemaniac
      @mathemaniac  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Maybe I should have said the use has gone well beyond DEs. I still stand by "did not dominate the study of DE", though.

    • @watcher8582
      @watcher8582 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mathemaniac I'm just nitpickin'

  • @alexweinberger8925
    @alexweinberger8925 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very excited 😮

  • @PerMortensen
    @PerMortensen ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What sort of posting schedule can we expect from this series?

    • @mathemaniac
      @mathemaniac  ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Will not ever commit to a posting schedule. That forms a big part of the stress in my previous video series that I do not want to repeat.

    • @PerMortensen
      @PerMortensen ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@mathemaniac That's fair

  • @landynillar
    @landynillar 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the realm of mathematical exploration, a visionary mathematician named Eli discovers a hidden dimension within Lie algebra-a realm where abstract symmetries take shape. As Eli delves into this uncharted territory, a new kind of geometry begins to emerge, challenging conventional notions.
    In this geometric landscape shaped by Lie algebra, memorizing intricate structures becomes the key to unlocking its secrets. Eli's mind becomes a repository of complex ideas, where the memorization of Lie group transformations and infinitesimal elements becomes a poetic dance of understanding.
    As Eli navigates through this geometric tapestry, the traditional notions of points, lines, and surfaces blur into a symphony of interwoven concepts. Memorizing the subtle interplay of Lie algebraic elements transforms Eli into a custodian of an otherworldly geometry, where the language of symmetries dictates the rules.
    The entasis of this mathematical odyssey lies not only in the intricate memorization of these complex ideas but in the revelation that this new geometry offers a profound glimpse into the nature of the mathematical universe-a journey where memorizing becomes a profound act of communion with the intrinsic beauty of abstract structures.

    • @landynillar
      @landynillar 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Well this nonsense tale maybe not so crazy. Lie theory it will have mayor impact in mathematics, at the language level

  • @kquat7899
    @kquat7899 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent!

  • @richardneifeld7797
    @richardneifeld7797 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Very informative!

  • @444haluk
    @444haluk ปีที่แล้ว +1

    OH MY GOD, PLEASE DO, I WAS ABOUT TO LEARN THIS 1 YEAR LATER IN UNİVERSİTY, YOURS WİLL BE FAAR BETTER

  • @WarzoneMasters
    @WarzoneMasters 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    amazing job!

  • @edbertkwesi4931
    @edbertkwesi4931 ปีที่แล้ว

    I LIKE DIFFERENTIAL EQUATIONS A LOT LETS GO

  • @mMaximus56789
    @mMaximus56789 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm working rn on optimization on Lie Groups, would be nice to see how to apply functions (specifically non linear) to a group

  • @Alan-zf2tt
    @Alan-zf2tt ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Rubbing hands with glee!

  • @darkside3ng
    @darkside3ng 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Amazing 🎉🎉🎉

  • @AymanFakri-ou8ro
    @AymanFakri-ou8ro ปีที่แล้ว

    awesome, thanks!

  • @khadijaaithmid5536
    @khadijaaithmid5536 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you

  • @frankjohnson123
    @frankjohnson123 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think you will address this with the prereq video, but I'll ask in case. I think Lie theory is more relevant to me than Galois theory, but I was wondering is Galois theory recommended to study first?

    • @mathemaniac
      @mathemaniac  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      No, not at all. Galois theory served as a motivation for Lie, but almost no physicist, perhaps except from me, need to know Galois theory, but do need to know Lie theory.

    • @frankjohnson123
      @frankjohnson123 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mathemaniac much appreciated!

  • @g3452sgp
    @g3452sgp 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is a sort of interesting!!

  • @asmithgames5926
    @asmithgames5926 ปีที่แล้ว

    My hips don't Lie.

    • @mathemaniac
      @mathemaniac  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And I'm starting to feel it's right :)

  • @hashdankhog8578
    @hashdankhog8578 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why isn't continuous symmetry used for differential equations

  • @KevinBalch-dt8ot
    @KevinBalch-dt8ot ปีที่แล้ว

    Therein LIEs the question!

  • @Michael-cg7yz
    @Michael-cg7yz ปีที่แล้ว

    oh god the subtitles

  • @george56834
    @george56834 ปีที่แล้ว

    I thought this video was going to be about something else. Like how to find out if someone is lying or not. Does anyone have a theory about that?

  • @bhayasur
    @bhayasur ปีที่แล้ว

    See you soon,
    But now I gonna read all about it .

  • @陳力歐-d2d
    @陳力歐-d2d ปีที่แล้ว

    please keep going~

  • @ClabClab
    @ClabClab ปีที่แล้ว

    commenting for the algorithm

  • @landynillar
    @landynillar 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ok just with the first 3 minutes of listening to this

  • @ucngominh3354
    @ucngominh3354 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    hi

  • @Kelvin-ed6ce
    @Kelvin-ed6ce ปีที่แล้ว

    Lie lied about all these.

  • @BoyNextDoor1729
    @BoyNextDoor1729 ปีที่แล้ว

    first