A better way to make your workbench mobile
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Love the idea. Do you believe that having larger diameter swivel wheels would offer any real benefit in a work bench set up similar to yours?
@@tonynotstated695 Larger wheels will roll over things like cords and wood scraps.
I assume that's a good thing? I found some 9" solid rubber wheels with a steel hub. I bought 8. Overkill. Just wondering if you think that's a good idea. Thanks.
Stumpy Nubs Now that you have a lever to extend your reach
Is there a way you could mount them in-board so they don’t stick out as a tripping hazard
@@j.collingallagher7030 I've never tripped on them. When they're flipped up (as they should be when using the bench, the bar is against the bench. The top has an overhang. I've never walked so close tot he ends of the bench that they would be a tripping hazard.
James you have moved your work bench, now you can sit back, relax, and have a cold one. Cause you earned it my friend!
Some dry lube, wax , piece out of the side of a milk jug, under those cam levers might help considerably. They seemed kinda sticky. Thanks for the great videos!
Hey James, your concept here of tipping the wheels at an angle to allow the bench to rest on its legs, and straightening them with a lever to jack the load up on the upright wheels, reminded me of my first foray into this area, after seeing a video on a small channel, 'Retractable Casters for Power Tools' by Carl Holmgren. What I liked about his designs was, with some inexpensive wheels mounted to scrap wood, he made an ingenious system that was in concept much like yours here, but contained within a 'skirt' under each shop cabinet, raised on the wheels and lowered onto the cabinet base with a foot pedal on the front (the lever behind the pedal was concealed within). He also had a couple of tools on similar legs and size to your bench, and had modified wheel designs on those as well, also operated with foot pedals, which were handy and easy to access, but not in the way for working at the tool.
Definitely worth a look, and may give you ideas for your other cabinets and tools. Good luck!
I agree that Carl Holmgren’s retractable casters design from 7 years ago are the best designed casters yet!
There’s also Corneel du Toit which picked up on Carl’s design and integrated on to his Roubo bench made it removable it’s simple but very effective!
There’s the Walnut Workshop that designed one similar with a one press lift design!
Forget those clumsy Rockler casters these are the best three designs I’ve seen in more than 6 years!!
I appreciate the videos being uploaded while you are moving the shop. You must be dead tired.
I am new to all this wood working and really enjoy it. Your tips and instructions are a big part in my wood working and want to say how much I appreciate you. Thanks again.
This is a good idea! I use Bora wheels for several of my tools and ended up bolting a plywood scrap between the levers so I could do it all with my foot and avoid torquing the frames of my tools. This is a great upgrade!
I did this tip on my workbench. This plan is the bomb. Especially with the lever system.
I built a much smaller bench for my garage workshop, which works well for the very limited space I have. I attached locking polyurethane casters on it to make it mobile. Although they work, I dislike how the locks spin under the bench when I move it a certain direction. I also have a 14" Jet bandsaw and purchased a Bora mobile cart for it at the time. I agree with James that the Bora levers actually make it easy to lift heavy items (my bandsaw is under 300 pounds, so it's still heavy to me). I purchased a Bora plywood base kit to replace the casters on my bench - this just inspired me to get around to completing that project. Guess I'll be spending some quality time in the garage this weekend. Thanks for the tip!
Brilliant hack! I have been looking at using these type of wheels as we are currently setting up a new garage workshop, and I was concerned about the weight issue. I have rheumatoid arthritis, so I'm always looking for ways to make the craft as accessible as possible. Thanks for the idea!
Excellent solution, James! After watching you work the lever I had a thought to improve it. Add another two elbows and you can get the handle closer to your standing position lessening the need to bend down as far. Thanks for the video, the idea and the #BoraTool wheels! #KeepTheChipsFlying!
What a simple but great solution. I know exactly what you are talking about. I always have the same problem on my workbench too. Thanks for sharing!
Love my sjoberg work bench....and those are good casters. Watched a YT video and did the bar connection when I set it up...good video 👍
I have a Bora base with those wheels on my bandsaw, awesome. My work bench has the generic wheels and I agree...the lever is not long enough and it's hard to do by hand...er foot. Thankfully I can still lift one end of my bench, it really should be heavier but it was the first one I ever made and will replace it one day.
Thanks James. I’ll be incorporating this idea this week on my landing pad, errr bench.
I built my bench as one of my first home shop projects about 48-49 years ago. It is really stout (good), but REALLY heavy, I guess as much as 700 lbs. I need this trick. I don't have a lot of space and the bench gets in the way of some shop use.
That’s a really great idea. I’m wondering if would work with a lathe if the caster are stronger enough to support that weight?
Good job James!
Clever engineering. I may try this with a piece of easy to use 2x4 or 4x4 in place of the angle iron.
James, you are smart, brother!
Have you watched Wesley Treat’s video about making his welding table mobile? It’s a pretty genius solution.
Nice hack Mr. Nubs. Cheers!
Nice modification! Looks like your Bora's could use just a little grease though. They seem a little 'jerky' as you raise the bench under load.
Great thanks for your videos
A greeting from Spain
great video (as always), but i had hoped you were going to talk about uneven floors. whoever poured the concrete in the floor of my shop did a terrible job and i am constantly shimming tool bases. built my work bench with levelers, but moving the bench even a few inches requires more adjustments. saw a vlog a long time ago, that set casters on one end of a work bench on a beam that pivoted from the center of the work bench. wondering if you have ever tried that?
As a swedish person I love the way you say Sjöberg
As someone who doesn't speak Swedish, I was told to pronounce it that way by the manufacturer, who is Swedish.
Great idea. I have another problem. My Powertec wheels sometimes fold under the bench when I try to move it in a straight line. I then have to try to lift the corner of the bench to untuck them. What did I do wrong when I installed them?????
Perhaps you will find this of interest. I believe if you shortened the shortest pipe by about half, when you use the lever, the elbow will be resting on the bar, and give your lever a more solid lift. I would have never thought of your clever lever solution!
Thank you!!
I'll have to add the castor cross bar option and upgrade to the bora wheels when I rebuild my assembly table. For flipping the crossbar down, I'll use my 3' wrecking bar. ;P
My bench is the size of a sheet of plywood, and I have some good casters on it ... I have so much weight on it it doesn’t roll around on me , lol helps when my floor is a 90 year old cement pad that’s never seen a good day , looks more like a mountain range then a garage floor
Great I will do that
I've looked at a similar answer to needing to move a bench. I have wondered about tripping over the wheels
I think square tubing would last longer than angle iron. Same idea. Thanks for the video.
I purchased some casters and it didn’t work out to well as when I moved the bench one of the wheels fell off and tipped the table that includes my drill press over onto the floor. Luckily nothing broke.
I have those " generic" table wheels but have yet to install them.
I've never seen a carpeted shop before, is it your production studio for videos?
Four swivel casters is the way to go. Two swivel casters and two non-swivel casters is a giant pain.
Even if you lock them, swivel casters sway because of the swivel mechanism. The bench won't be completely secure.
another good video
I head you got a new shop, congrants! Are you going to make video about it?
We've made four so far.
Perhaps a worthy improvement would be a telescopic handle?
Two different sized square steel tubing (so that one fits in the other) would make it possible to have a handle that can stay fixed in place without being so large it is an inconvenience.
Very cool
Please provide cost of casters and where toorder
What's the bet this video recommends buying some (expensive) unobtainium?
Just curious, how do you think the wheels will work on the carpet at the new shop? Or won't you need them with the size of the shop?
The 2nd half of the video shows the bench on the carpet
@@StumpyNubs I guess I didn't notice. I was too interested in what you were saying.
maybe add some grease or wax on the lever where it slides for smoother operation.
To me, those wheels on the end of the bench look like a serious trip hazard. My workshop is in a domestic garage and (at least once in a while) I need to demonstrate that we can still get the cars in. My chosen solution was to put the wheels on hinges with threaded rods which allow them to be forced down with a battery-powered socket wrench. Originally I was looking at the use of air cylinders but decided that the number of times that movement is required did not justify the additional complication.
Incidentally, the top surfaces of all my benches are at the same height so that I can rearrange them to make infeed or outfeed tables, or other configurations as necessary.
Adding another 45 elbow farther up would shorten the distance you have to bend, it may also decrease leverage, but then again maybe not. Someone good with the geometry might be able to enlighten us.
I've not done any math to prove this, but I think what matters is the distsnce from the fulcrum to where you apply force. A bent rod will give you less leverage, but the ergonomics could easily outweigh that.
Loved your modifications but one thing I did see (it was mentioned in a review on site) was the flimsy bolts used to attach the casters to the bench. Too small and not really beefy enough for the loads specified as acceptable. A poor job of putting your modification on and the added stress might cause these bolts to fail or strip out. Of course that would be my first modification.
I did not find the the screws to be too flimsy, they are pretty stout. But I agree that the heads strip easily. I would replace the three screws with better ones for the simple fact that you may strip the heads while installing them and have trouble fully seating them.
My dad solved this problem years ago. Your bench was built with the legs in position to not be in the way. Right now your wheels are in the way and I am sure you occasionally hit them. The wheels should be under the storage draws or cross beams of a bench, out of the way of feet.
As you have shown you need a long lever to lighten the weight of the bench. so put your wheels on the inside below the draws. The lever attached to the pedal should swing close to plane of the outside face of the legs. and maybe attached together by a feature like a rivet moving in a slot in the other lever from another wheel. It appears that for your bench if the levers were in front of the draws will give enough advantage to easily be operated by your foot. This will tip the bench due to the small distance between the other two wheels.
Taking my father's solution as a principle, combine yours and his. Put your present wheels on the inside and put your lever at the end so it travels in front of the draws or the back side of the draws. Tom Sutrina
The wheels are on the ends of the bench, not the sides where a person works. They've never been in the way.
@@StumpyNubs Glad that the wheels are not in your way. I mentioned the solution because my father's solution is likely half the cost of your purchased specialty wheels.
The wheel solution was on a welded together stand for a contractors Sears Table saw. No locking feature wheels like those on your bench. So to lock the wheel down the crossed bars in the up position were beyond flat so a bolt in a whole on one bar held the other bar and thus the wheels down. Thus standard wheel, hinge, and a bar for each leg is needed. Much lower in cost solution. My father didn't even need a hinge, used a slot at the end of the pipe leg where the bar when through so it also adjusted for travel due to the crossing bars.
@@ricos1497 Can not figure out how to send a paint sketch. Put wheels near the tip of hand hedge clipper (big scissors) Take off the handles so the blades can move beyond straight. Jam the tips of the blades into wood of legs when they are almost fully open, hinges or sloppy hole preventing the tip from moving up or down. The wheels touch the ground but the feet do not. Now move the blades until they are parallel and then beyond. As some point the legs will touch the ground and the wheels will lift off. My father drilled a hole in the part of the blade where the handle was and stuck a nail in the whole so that the blades were prevented from getting to level when the wheels were down. Could use a hole to hold the wheels up off the floor also. Hoped this use of a common tool helped. If you do not want the wheels to swivel then two clippers can be put together with the wheel shafts and the center pin of the big scissors connecting the two. An even cheaper approach.
I always thought it was you that was wobbly rather than the bench.
Stumpy Nubs, I am glad that the added wheels do not get in your way. I said earlier that the wheels get in the way and presented a way of putting the wheels, for a lower cost inside the legs. My assumption that your wheels will get in the way is based on the woodworking benches that are all built similarly to your that are scattered throughout youtube. Setting back the legs must have a reason and the obvious one is to stay out of the way of the wood worker.
Wider leg base is obviously better and seen on tables, furniture, and chairs.
"22 - How to Make an Extreme Woodworking Bench for under $200." by King's Fine Woodworking.
"Greene & Greene Inspired Entry Bench w/Storage" by The Wood Whisperer.
"Watch This before Builiding Your Workbench" by Woodsmith.
I've tried these types of casters before and besides being difficult to use I find once I place my bench against the wall in my garage, I cannot reach the casters in the rear to operate them. I found a better solution for myself which are a set of “Moogiitools 3" PVC Heavy Duty 1000lbs Swivel Rubber Caster Wheels with Safety Dual Locking Casters with Brake”. These casters lock both from rolling and from swiveling and once engaged it's hard to tell That the bench is not sitting on the floor it's that stable. And they can be operated with your toe very easily. They work so good I usually only engage the front 2 casters, I rarely must lock all 4, and the best part is they are only $25 for a set of 4! They have a rating of 1000 pounds for the set. I've had them on my bench which I also have my lathe on which is a total of 350Lbs for almost a year and they have not skipped a beat. They come in various sizes and weight ratings, I have them on all my shop carts.
How is it that you can't reach the big flip-up pedals on these wheels, but you can reach the little locking levers on the sides of the other wheels? I put my wheels on the ends where they are aren't in the way (most work is done on the sides of the bench) and are easily accessible. And I find that the rubber-like material on casters and small the surface area of the wheel that is in contact with the floor makes them less effective at dampening movement and vibrations than the actual legs of the bench.
@@StumpyNubs In my garage space is limited, it's like a game of Tetris putting everything back into place at the end of the day. On the right side of my bench is a flip cart and to the left is my drill press and it's on a mobile base. Both are right up against the bench so I can't get beside my bench to access the castors. And in my situation leaving the lever down they stick out and I would have to move the drill press and cart a couple of inches of which I don't have :( I tried Rocklers version to find this out. I find I don't need to lock the rear castors when the bench is against the wall, only at times when I pull it out do I need to lock all four. The PVC wheels are surprisingly hard, and when all four are locked the bench is very solid. Yes, there's nothing better than a bench resting on it's own legs, and they don't just screw on, but as an alternate mobile solution I really think many would be surprised how well these castors work, and they are amazingly affordable.
@@toolchuck Thanks for the input :)
Thanks for the great channel!!!
brought a second pump truck can move anything in workshop put everything on purpose made pallets
My guess is that you are only moving one heavy item at a time. Couldn't you just have a clever version of a pair of hand trucks to serve as a mobile base that works with your workbench, miter saw stand, table saw, band saw, etc?
Thumbs up to crush a troll.
I don't understand. Why don't you just push casters with foot?
How do you know I can't afford a Koenigsegg? Have you been reading my mail again, James? Don't make me get another restraining order.
Alright james.... I am NOT a fan of Bora right now.... but I trust you... bora flip wheels being delivered today.
@@StumpyNubs funny you should mention that, as I just stripped one...also...
I misread the instructions and drilled the bottom mounting holes where I was supposed to align the bottom of the brackets.... this whole thing is f@$%&#....
@@pattyofurniture100 - I just sent them an email about the screws. They do strip too easily. They're a great company, I am sure they will take care of that problem in future shipments. As for drilling the holes int he wrong place... It happens to the best of us. Just take a break, sit back and have a cold one. :)
@@StumpyNubs that's exactly what I just did... been a real shit day. They also shorted me a couple washers :/ hopefully the performance outshines the installation
@@StumpyNubs hey james, quick question for ya, so, I dont have the moolah right now for a legit woodworking bench, so, i recently sold my old work table in favor of building a smaller more mobile one out of an unfinished kitchen base cabinet and a birch butcher block top.
Problem I'm having is neither my cabinet nor my z clips are strong enough to pull the 1/8" arch out of the middle of the 1.75" thick top.
Do I essentially need to remove the top, beef up the inside of the cabinet and build my own oversized z clips from thick hardwood?? I have plenty of red oak lying around, just no motivation nor time to tackle this problem blindly.... thanks in advance
My table saw weights 750-800 pounds. I'm looking for a way to make it mobile. 😄
So does mine. This will more than handle it: amzn.to/2LDblrb
I don't have room in my garage for a workbench so this isn't a problem for me. The problem is not having room for a bench.
aka a "toe cracker" ouch
Carl Holmgren has some more clever ideas on his channel.
Watch your toes when you lower that thing though.
The legs only come about 1/2 inch off the ground when it's raised. You can't fit your toes in there.
@@StumpyNubs Thanks. I know that I can sometimes be clumsy with my feet. Great video and I do like that workbench.
Or any other body parts for that matter ;)
I have to say, I will never recommend Bora casters of any persuasion.The 2 sets I have are week and in the way when they are collapsed.
They are rated at 600 pounds. I have 500 pounds on mine. I just showed close-up footage of how the roll and operate smoothly under all that weight. They aren't even close to flimsy. We must be looking at two different sets of wheels.
@@StumpyNubs Your right, you have the $300 set, I have what most wood workers buy, $50 set, they are junk.
@@rayc.1396 - As you know because you can see them in the video, I have the standard set which is 1/8-inch thick steel. If you consider them weak, I suppose we'll just have to agree to disagree.
No views but 2 comments and 2 likes. TH-cam is drunk.
First!
I don’t think those are very good casters. There are much better ones out there.
Why's that? I've used the other ones. And I've used these. These are better.
The reviews on that brand of casters are horrible. Too bad you still recommend them.
Horrible? There's a single negative review on the Amazon page. Regardless, you can literally see them easily rolling around under 500 pounds of weight in this video. You can see me flipping them up and down with all that weight too. The video speaks for itself.
Functional but not pretty
I was anticipating something shop made and innovative past the many ideas already on TH-cam. Disappointed.
I've been studying the "innovative" shop made solutions and have decided that time is money... I'm gonna get a set of these. Yes I can weld, cut, drill etc, but like I said, time is money.
I've never seen anyone use a lever like this. The solution was mostly shop made. Do I have to make the casters too? You got two good, homemade ideas (the bar and the lever) in a 3-minute video. Seems like a good value to me.
Stumpy Nubs mea culpa. You remain a favorite for the tons of knowledge you give. Many thanks.