The 'child-woman-thing' from Calvin Klein's interview, when he almost said it turns on, then corrected himself to 'touches a nerv with men especially' disgusts me every time I hear it.
😢crazy..from a woman who has struggled with a 25yr heroin addiction. I now see why I was considered attractive, it has been conditioning us and allowing me to continue believing nothing was wrong. Truly i say addiction isn't anything to magnify and beautify ❤
@@ruthharwood3707 Congrats to you!! Have u seen the Kensington Ave PA videos? The fentanyl & tranq crisis. I watch them. Now they're putting rhinoceros tranquilizer in the fentanyl, users said. Users in wheelchairs, losing limbs from the drugs.
Umm I don’t think herion addiction is considered attractive with anybody …. They probably found you attractive due to your looks that may resemble this herion chic but the addiction itself is not attractive
I bet you're just hot regardless of what's in your bloodstream. I had an 8-year stent with it myself in and when I got sober at the birth of my daughter(sober since June '21) & definitely gained some weight so I get the aesthetic but at the end of the day you're beautiful at the core of you. To heck with people's twisted perceptions of beauty. Good luck chica xoxo
The confusion between legally a child (under 18) and biologically a child (before puberty) and psychologically a child (who knows what age) is problematic.
The problem is the over misuse of the word "child." Childhood ends at 12; teenagers, although minors, are NOT children--they are in transition to adulthood and up until the 1950s were considered young adults. _Teenagers_ and teen-culture are 20th century creations. But that it doesn't mean that what Kate Moss was being made to do/being exposed to was acceptable at all because it wasn't, but she was by no means a child and it very much so minimises the seriousness of what actual child models go through, hence why I can't think of any who made to 'supermodel' status (regardless of how one wishes to use the term) as adults.
Even during that cocaine scandal, she never actually lost too much work, some brands might've dumped her but others picked her up or kept going with her, I've never seen her not in magazines during that time. She definitely has staying power.
@@patriciavandevelde5469I disagree. She is absolutely unique, whether you like the thinness or not (note that she was thin before). She has something mysterious, alluring. She did though also have a "broken child" aura that could be rather creepy (and attracted CK), but she lost it along the way.
It was all planned. When Burberry dropped her they replaced her with Agyness Deyn--granted she had no known drug scandals about her, but she was basically another grungy/rocker type. Subsequently Burberry picked Kate Moss back up later and ultimately the whole saga earned her millions; far more than she _lost_ in deals.
You know this all feels so weird coming from an all-girl family where even our dogs were girls....to come to an understanding that men view us like this ..for just being born....it's a very strange realization
Men don't view you like that, you're just imbalanced-ly sheltered. Also lesbians exist and that includes predatorial ones. But I'd also like to point out that the people who first made Kate Moss do nudity at 15 were women--her booker Sarah Doukas and photographer Corrine Day. Those images were also shot for women's magazines much like her Calvin Klein adverts were all for women's wear etc making them the primary demographic--many of whom are still fans of Moss to this day. So once again, you are just too sheltered and seemingly don't even know what women are really like...
A bit earlier but I know Lord Byron was all about the ‘dying of consumption’ look. He was also anorexic/bulimic. Consumption would make you really pale but red-cheeked which was seen as quite sexy.
The woman @8:36 looks almost identical to Kate but perhaps even prettier with more pronounced cheekbones. I couldn't tell about a difference in the shape of the eyes. I like Kate's personality and I think it's admirable that she can admit that she's not truly beautiful. Still she holds people's attention and draws them in.
‘Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels’ I hope kate tells her own daughter that toxicity, because she told all of us - the daughters of other people, and we took that in. ED was normalised I was skinny and never felt skinny enough
It's horrible you had to go through that although you cannot stay resentful as if it was her who did that to you. When you act like a victim you give other people control over your life and that makes you a slave to external circumstances. It's you who determines whether you care about that or not.
ITS SAD ITS CREEPY AND THIS MAKES ME SEE KATE MOSS IN ANOTHER VIEWPOINT. I ADMIRE HER. SHE IS A G. I GREW UP AFTER HER FAME I GUESS ..BORN IN 1988.... I only remember the negative press. I completely feel bad for judging her after all she's been thru. Wow. People don't know until they know ..
That was scripted, if they actually wanted her to do it she would have had to to keep the job. Not saying it's any more acceptable, but that was scripted/staged.
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She was never anorexic or a heroin addict. She got caught doing coka cola. Like most people don't do drugs at one time or another. It happens. People do it you would never think of but she never went off the rails. The worst thing is her cigarette smoking for so long.
@@janetannerevans2320 @ when you are that age you are very vulnerable and don’t really know what you want. You will admire and follow anyone who will minimally persuade you into doing things you aren’t really sure about. They recruited her when she was 15… this is why its so easy to step into this world, but to so difficult to step out of it.
She's from Croydon, she wasn't _"innocent"_ or _"childish"_ at all; that's just what you want to see because you don't know the culture she comes from. That's not to say she was a problem-child or something but even she herself describes her early days as being very much so the working-class experience--swearing, fighting and all!
“Right face right time” Yes….. some are destined to be famous. 100% she wasn’t beautiful and was nothing special but I believe she was destined to be who she is
So the rust color leather jacket worn by Sorenti 5:46 is a classic. I have a shorter one nipped in at the waist but with the exact same color leather and those 70’s pointy double lapels. It was given to me by a family friend, it was her leather statement jacket when she was in high school. She didn’t know anyone else who could wear it and it fits me like a glove. Whenever I wear it I feel like I’m back in the 1970’s again.
I think Kate made comments in defiance of the body shaming, at 5'7 and 110 she was still a typical healthy BMI I know because I was an inch shorter and five pounds heavier I never had her cocaine habit but I smoked and drank on weekends never starved myself is her Mother slim too? She actually seemed a more "realistic" body image than 5'11 size 6 models imo but if people are not genetically a certain way they become insulting I guess she didn't look large at 40 when she posed for Playboy or recently for at 50 for Victoria Secret either she's just a tiny type accept her as is or don't whatever....
Kate Moss in no way shape or form had a more realistic body type than the original supers; if she did she would have never become famous. A woman who is 5"11 and a US size 6 would be the equivalent of one who is 5"4-5"6 and a size 4. Kate Moss was visibly thinner than both of those sizes.
oh my god...I will never forget looking up daily in the 2011-2014 era, ana inspo on Tumblr in my deepest dark days of anorexia in high school. F*CK this shit.
None of these models have ever benefited from the manipulation of men. It just never happened. No older men desire scantily dressed models. It is certainly a rare occurrence.
Your documentary is a bit off. Gia was way before heroin chic was in the picture. Kate was not anorexic nor off the rails on drugs. Her biggest problem is smoking.
All the fat people hating on Kate on this thread lol. As if it’s ever been socially acceptable to say, “oh my god, you’re so fat !” Are you okay? I grew up with people asking me if I was anorexic, people now do this to my daughter. Oh the irony of fat people screaming for more body acceptance in the modeling world whilst shaming those who make them feel insecure. Ever heard of high metabolism? Hyperthyroidism? Stress?
nobody is ignoring the fact naturally skinny girls exists. and whilst i agree with you that going directly or indirectly at someone for being skinny is bodyshaming - never has it been popular in media and overall society to shame skinny people. i love kate as a model, but i don't like her as a person, this is the internet, feel free to ignore.
she had a unique look which is sought for in the modeling industry. she isn't ur regular societally attractive person which made her beautiful in a different away
She was a good model and makes great images. Her bare face is nothing special and as a Brit I can wholly assure you that the point about her looking exactly like other girls in London at 7:36 is not just true for the city, but the country--she was just another skinny working class girl. An example is the British gymnast Annika Reeder who is a few years younger than Moss but from Essex. Although she was not a model so her beauty was not as important, if you search the following (Favourite Routines: Annika Reeder - 1994 Commonwealth Games Floor Final) you'll see what I mean, there's also a documentary about her here on TH-cam too. But in Moss' case not only was it her ability to _transform_ into something much more glamorous than she actually was that gave her such added appeal, it's also that she was a _Twiggy 2.0,_ but this time they were going to keep her around for more than just 6 years.
@ I have seen her many times in person, she is not what I consider beautiful. In fact you can barely notice her she’s that plain but it is true in pictures she looks different, she did photograph well.
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The 'child-woman-thing' from Calvin Klein's interview, when he almost said it turns on, then corrected himself to 'touches a nerv with men especially' disgusts me every time I hear it.
Yep he's sick. He did the same thing with Brooke Shields in her CK ads & commercials. Very Suggestive ads
omg i picked up on that too
so fkn rank
like surely you can be creative without being a lowkey pedo trying to get traction from jail bait
Typical.
😢crazy..from a woman who has struggled with a 25yr heroin addiction. I now see why I was considered attractive, it has been conditioning us and allowing me to continue believing nothing was wrong.
Truly i say addiction isn't anything to magnify and beautify ❤
@@ruthharwood3707 Congrats to you!! Have u seen the Kensington Ave PA videos? The fentanyl & tranq crisis. I watch them. Now they're putting rhinoceros tranquilizer in the fentanyl, users said. Users in wheelchairs, losing limbs from the drugs.
Umm I don’t think herion addiction is considered attractive with anybody …. They probably found you attractive due to your looks that may resemble this herion chic but the addiction itself is not attractive
I bet you're just hot regardless of what's in your bloodstream.
I had an 8-year stent with it myself in and when I got sober at the birth of my daughter(sober since June '21) & definitely gained some weight so I get the aesthetic
but at the end of the day you're beautiful at the core of you. To heck with people's twisted perceptions of beauty.
Good luck chica xoxo
No one ever said that to you after 25-yrs on smack. Get real. No one.
Child-women thing is an INSANE thing to say😅😅
She wasn’t addicted to heroin, it was coke.
Her bf Pete Dougherty was an H addict. I'm sure she's tried it all.
The confusion between legally a child (under 18) and biologically a child (before puberty) and psychologically a child (who knows what age) is problematic.
The problem is the over misuse of the word "child." Childhood ends at 12; teenagers, although minors, are NOT children--they are in transition to adulthood and up until the 1950s were considered young adults. _Teenagers_ and teen-culture are 20th century creations. But that it doesn't mean that what Kate Moss was being made to do/being exposed to was acceptable at all because it wasn't, but she was by no means a child and it very much so minimises the seriousness of what actual child models go through, hence why I can't think of any who made to 'supermodel' status (regardless of how one wishes to use the term) as adults.
Even during that cocaine scandal, she never actually lost too much work, some brands might've dumped her but others picked her up or kept going with her, I've never seen her not in magazines during that time. She definitely has staying power.
She knows to much! Millions with the same look!
@@patriciavandevelde5469I disagree. She is absolutely unique, whether you like the thinness or not (note that she was thin before). She has something mysterious, alluring. She did though also have a "broken child" aura that could be rather creepy (and attracted CK), but she lost it along the way.
It’s because she’s white!
@@purpurina5663 I agree
It was all planned. When Burberry dropped her they replaced her with Agyness Deyn--granted she had no known drug scandals about her, but she was basically another grungy/rocker type. Subsequently Burberry picked Kate Moss back up later and ultimately the whole saga earned her millions; far more than she _lost_ in deals.
15 posing nude??!!?!! Omg what
You'll be surprised as to how common that still is; esp when the girls in question aren't famous so it won't attract attention.
Interesting doc. You managed to make me interested in a subculture I otherwise wouldn’t have given two hoots about.
i like the background music
Good work. You put out quality content, thank you for your time.
Ugh she's so fabulous
You know this all feels so weird coming from an all-girl family where even our dogs were girls....to come to an understanding that men view us like this ..for just being born....it's a very strange realization
Men don't view you like that, you're just imbalanced-ly sheltered. Also lesbians exist and that includes predatorial ones. But I'd also like to point out that the people who first made Kate Moss do nudity at 15 were women--her booker Sarah Doukas and photographer Corrine Day. Those images were also shot for women's magazines much like her Calvin Klein adverts were all for women's wear etc making them the primary demographic--many of whom are still fans of Moss to this day. So once again, you are just too sheltered and seemingly don't even know what women are really like...
Wasn't there another era like this? The Victorian era had the look of consumption (tuberculosis) that the women found desirable
No😅
😂😂😂 this comment
A bit earlier but I know Lord Byron was all about the ‘dying of consumption’ look. He was also anorexic/bulimic.
Consumption would make you really pale but red-cheeked which was seen as quite sexy.
Stop romanticizing something so unhealthy. Eat healthy, people.
Can you just accept shes skinny?
Modelling is like acting. You pay via the wolves”
is it bad that his first video on kate moss is one of my comfort videos?💀
The woman @8:36 looks almost identical to Kate but perhaps even prettier with more pronounced cheekbones. I couldn't tell about a difference in the shape of the eyes. I like Kate's personality and I think it's admirable that she can admit that she's not truly beautiful. Still she holds people's attention and draws them in.
Her "double" doesn't have the same full mouth or tiny chin, her chin is much wider than Kate's.
‘Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels’ I hope kate tells her own daughter that toxicity, because she told all of us - the daughters of other people, and we took that in. ED was normalised I was skinny and never felt skinny enough
That’s your own fault take accountability for your decision and actions
It's horrible you had to go through that although you cannot stay resentful as if it was her who did that to you. When you act like a victim you give other people control over your life and that makes you a slave to external circumstances. It's you who determines whether you care about that or not.
Ur terrible
It was a politically incorrect joke. Only silly people internalise comments like that.
ITS SAD ITS CREEPY
AND THIS MAKES ME SEE KATE MOSS IN ANOTHER VIEWPOINT. I ADMIRE HER. SHE IS A G. I GREW UP AFTER HER FAME I GUESS ..BORN IN 1988.... I only remember the negative press. I completely feel bad for judging her after all she's been thru. Wow. People don't know until they know ..
She’s not a G 😆
i find it interesting, i grew up in the culture the aesthetic was inspied by, what i find interested how it was reduced to '' heroin ''
* interesting
Balenciaga are gross 🤮🤮🤮
Kate Moss is a beauty, has been one of my favorites for years… south London swag 💋
So why she is pushing her daughter to be a model ? If this industry is so dangerous ?
She’s not she always said she doesn’t want her daughter to be a model but her daughter wants to
Money 💰
So many children of famous parents become models. Nepotism is an easy option 🙄🙄
You might want to ask Kris J that….
"unbutton your pants and pull them down a bit" 😲😲😲😧😡😣😔
his voice made want to vomit 🤢🤢
Who is saying that to her? I love her reply “No, I don’t think so”.
That was scripted, if they actually wanted her to do it she would have had to to keep the job. Not saying it's any more acceptable, but that was scripted/staged.
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Katy was stunning.
Fame isn't always a good thing ❤️
Her beauty is haunting
One and only kate ❤
Her portrait by Lucian Freud is incredible.
She always reminds me of my dead grandmother when I went to see her at the funeral home. Same colour
😅😅😅
Agreed she became the icon.
She was never anorexic or a heroin addict. She got caught doing coka cola. Like most people don't do drugs at one time or another. It happens. People do it you would never think of but she never went off the rails. The worst thing is her cigarette smoking for so long.
I believe it's not the skinny exactly, it's them wanting an ephebus
Everyone looks better thinner, it is what it is..
Except for Adele...she looks better fat
She had such an innocent and childish attitude.. its incredible sad to think it was horribly messed up by the modeling industry….
Yes, it is incredibly sad but in no way surprising.
she could have chosen to leave. Yasmeen Ghauri simply walked away.
@@janetannerevans2320 @ when you are that age you are very vulnerable and don’t really know what you want. You will admire and follow anyone who will minimally persuade you into doing things you aren’t really sure about. They recruited her when she was 15… this is why its so easy to step into this world, but to so difficult to step out of it.
She's from Croydon, she wasn't _"innocent"_ or _"childish"_ at all; that's just what you want to see because you don't know the culture she comes from. That's not to say she was a problem-child or something but even she herself describes her early days as being very much so the working-class experience--swearing, fighting and all!
@@Asmr.Lunita then why is she letting her daughter model in that industry if it messed her up?
What is the background music called?
Solitude - M83
Nothing tastes as good as skinny feels if you know you know❤
“Right face right time”
Yes….. some are destined to be famous. 100% she wasn’t beautiful and was nothing special but I believe she was destined to be who she is
3:28 ewww
So the rust color leather jacket worn by Sorenti 5:46 is a classic. I have a shorter one nipped in at the waist but with the exact same color leather and those 70’s pointy double lapels. It was given to me by a family friend, it was her leather statement jacket when she was in high school. She didn’t know anyone else who could wear it and it fits me like a glove. Whenever I wear it I feel like I’m back in the 1970’s again.
She’s just so gorgeous & unique
Edit: I did not expect gia to be in this but yes her story is so sad ❤❤
what is the song ?
Solitude - M83
I think Kate made comments in defiance of the body shaming, at 5'7 and 110 she was still a typical healthy BMI I know because I was an inch shorter and five pounds heavier I never had her cocaine habit but I smoked and drank on weekends never starved myself is her Mother slim too? She actually seemed a more "realistic" body image than 5'11 size 6 models imo but if people are not genetically a certain way they become insulting I guess she didn't look large at 40 when she posed for Playboy or recently for at 50 for Victoria Secret either she's just a tiny type accept her as is or don't whatever....
Kate Moss in no way shape or form had a more realistic body type than the original supers; if she did she would have never become famous. A woman who is 5"11 and a US size 6 would be the equivalent of one who is 5"4-5"6 and a size 4. Kate Moss was visibly thinner than both of those sizes.
oh my god...I will never forget looking up daily in the 2011-2014 era, ana inspo on Tumblr in my deepest dark days of anorexia in high school. F*CK this shit.
Wonder what she seen in Pete
None of these models have ever benefited from the manipulation of men. It just never happened. No older men desire scantily dressed models. It is certainly a rare occurrence.
periodt
A massive coke head clubber And she loved ecstasy . The complete opposite to rock n roll herion chick as the media made her out to be
Do they want these women super skinny so they look like little boys?
Your documentary is a bit off. Gia was way before heroin chic was in the picture. Kate was not anorexic nor off the rails on drugs. Her biggest problem is smoking.
okay, research!
You're lucky if you're still alive after taking heroin. But Heroine is actually the end. You'll never get clean again 😢.
That's not true at all
@@kayjay3257 few do.
I must know a few walking dead in this case then
Not true. Not even fent is the end
They used and abused her!
As someone who's so skinny people think I don't eat and always telling me to eat more but they don't know i eat more than anyone at home😂
Can you at least pronounce Gia Carangi’s name correctly? SMH.
All the fat people hating on Kate on this thread lol. As if it’s ever been socially acceptable to say, “oh my god, you’re so fat !” Are you okay?
I grew up with people asking me if I was anorexic, people now do this to my daughter. Oh the irony of fat people screaming for more body acceptance in the modeling world whilst shaming those who make them feel insecure. Ever heard of high metabolism? Hyperthyroidism? Stress?
nobody is ignoring the fact naturally skinny girls exists. and whilst i agree with you that going directly or indirectly at someone for being skinny is bodyshaming - never has it been popular in media and overall society to shame skinny people. i love kate as a model, but i don't like her as a person, this is the internet, feel free to ignore.
You had a point until you resorted to excuses. Healthy skinny people exist all over the world without conditions. End-of.
Its a whole lot better than today's grotesque obesity crisis.
Yes, yes, yes talk about this. And now let's go to the demon chic cuz just take a look at Taylor Swift.
La música me tiene comido el cerebro
Not big on her vibe but at least she doesn’t have ugly tatts
You meant tattoos, right? 😊
JUST SAY IT!! WHY CANT WE JUST SAY THE REAL THING!!?!?!?!
THIS IS SUUUUUCH *B*S*!!!!!
I miss pro-ana websites.
Nothing common about Kate Moss.
Why this woman is considered beautiful still baffles me
she had a unique look which is sought for in the modeling industry. she isn't ur regular societally attractive person which made her beautiful in a different away
She photographs well, great cheekbones
me as well.
She was a good model and makes great images. Her bare face is nothing special and as a Brit I can wholly assure you that the point about her looking exactly like other girls in London at 7:36 is not just true for the city, but the country--she was just another skinny working class girl. An example is the British gymnast Annika Reeder who is a few years younger than Moss but from Essex. Although she was not a model so her beauty was not as important, if you search the following (Favourite Routines: Annika Reeder - 1994 Commonwealth Games Floor Final) you'll see what I mean, there's also a documentary about her here on TH-cam too.
But in Moss' case not only was it her ability to _transform_ into something much more glamorous than she actually was that gave her such added appeal, it's also that she was a _Twiggy 2.0,_ but this time they were going to keep her around for more than just 6 years.
@ I have seen her many times in person, she is not what I consider beautiful. In fact you can barely notice her she’s that plain but it is true in pictures she looks different, she did photograph well.
Leave her alone already. Go to school and find a hobby. The End.
Appearance is subjective.
I don't think she's ugly...she's average at best.
She came from a wealthy insider family. Stop playing like she was some "ordinary girl"
The game has always been rigged
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She hasn't aged well
Drugs
White people usually don’t sorry lol, it’s not to be mean but just kind of
Facts.. Naomi on the other hand…