X-Men: Krakoa Era Reading Guide
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Deadpool: "I hate to be the bearer of bad news but you guys are the X-Men. You guys are always destined to lose no matter how many times it seems like you have the perfect life."
literally 😂😂😂i’m tired of mutant story’s now
Like Spider-Man having a perfect relationship lol
@@IceMannnnnnnhonestly most of them are dogshit they’re all loosing and no wining. Sure the art is good but story’s ass I’m only hear for robs voice 😂.
This is why I'm hoping whenever they do this story. It actually ENDS that version of the X-men's story. I'm tired of the same repeat.
@kamenrangerzeo8251
True sir, very true 100%
You titled the video “X-men’s biggest failure” but I think you kinda left out the reasons it might have failed naturally over time? Like how Krakoa would have burned out eventually anyway, the morally questionable things they did like with alienating Reed Richards and messing with his son Franklin, Beast becoming evil and replaced with a clone, mutants taking over the world in one timeline. You didn’t really mention a single foible or reason that caused its downfall. It was just kind of a summary of how it ended.
Yeah this needs a sequel extensively explaining why Krakoa was the failure it is.
@@enriquejoseantequerasanche6180 Because the writers decided it was so.
Seriously the ideology of their society was incapable of long-term sustainability.
@@DandySlayer13it was evil since the beggening even under bendes but they pretended it was good for no reason.
Not even talking about the reid thing but the sheer hubrys of magneto calling himself a god and I think Emma saying yeah were going to take over democratie.
What about it.
The thing is it would have been easy to call them out.
Just like namor did when he told them your not a nation your an insignificant island in but f nowhere
Or doom could have told them that they were just playing make believe as they alianated everyone around them.
I mean it was easy you could say their school suck because they only transfer informations they don't teacher kid to question or actually calculate.
They were already segregeting amongst themselves by class of power.
It's dumb for human because race are dumb but power are actually real.
The second the human threat dissapear how long until the morlocs are treated as sub humans and lesse or slave
They are just united by the fear of humans
not to nitpick, but you missed a key part where Raven shot Moria with Forge's mutant cure gun, which removed Moria's reset power.
Which issue was that?
That’s what I was confused on, the big plot point was she has to be protected at all cost because otherwise she’ll reset everything and then he just says oh she’s killed and revived as a robot….
He's not reading every bit of every issue infringement if you know what that means anyway point is he reads the most important plot points to get you interested in a comic enough to go actually buy it
Moria? Or Moira?
@@AlexanderOsias More Ass
My problem is this is the opposite of xavier’s dream, it’s literally saying “alright we’re not humans, we’re the improvement but we’re good people though”
Exactly! Aren't the xmen a literal statement to fight for world peace and diversity! Why are the segregating themselves!
well, maybe xavier's dream is stupid, mutants need an place where they are not killed for just being what they are, why they need to stay hostages of countries that hate mutants?
Ah, so like me with my transness in real life, hell yeah!
More of a downgrade @@Joestargirl
Mutants will always be Human. Saying otherwise is like saying people with birth defects, heredatory diseases and autism are not Human.
I like this summary concept. I think you'd be BEST served by creating several of these along with your big playlist options. What I mean is you have one video that is the summary of a big story, then a playlist that is the full in-detail explanation, and both sets reference each other.
I like How Xavier ends like cyclops at the end of AvX
Not even close.
Xavier did far worse than Cyclops did (and in less perilous circumstances) prior to the Gala.
Cyclops worst actions in AVX happened after Tony Stark infected him with a primordial parasite that he could not host.
Xavier did what he did while stone-cold sober. Moira simply convinced him to take a more lethal path.
meanwhile I reject & ignore both
Geez did apocalypse and juggernaut get their butts kicked???
@@SpikeTheWolf don’t remember what happened to juggernaut but he is on the team with cyclops in the up coming séries while Apocalypse did fight evryone on Krakoa before quitting
@@SpikeTheWolfjuggernaut was in prison but Kitty Pryde let him out and he protected the physical krakoa from Orchis attacking it
I’m newer to actually reading X-Men comics and this is the era that really got me into buying comics in general, it will be missed.
If i were a mutant, I would never join any organization that is being lead by the X-Men... their incompetence as leaders is legendary at this point.
That leave you out in the cold with a random power tool as your best weapon that if anyone finds out you have you may get a mob at your door or someone worse if you have a useful power
@@herokid789 more mutants have died due to the actions of the X Men than any angry mob. I'll take my chances.
@@wiseguy01 same
"I'm sorry, even before I could manipulate reality around me, I knew Factionism was a bad idea. Piss off and let me be the worlds luckiest dishwasher"
I'll joined the justice leagues, xmen can't touch me no more 😂
even as someone who read a large handful of these comics personally, as well as watching your videos Rob.. i thought this summary breakdown after the fact was incredibly just cause i lost the thru-line for some plot threads over the course of the story. Whether due to time passing or convoluted narrative so the breakdown was neat to get recontextualized
If you are a long time comic book reader and especially a Marvel one, then you (should) know that Marvel demands that you return its characters to the same state that you found them. That's the rule. That is why we are going to see Peter parker eating milk and cookies from his unt May until our sun runs out of energy.
I enjoy the in depth story telling but I also enjoy this brief synopsis style as well. I think it meshes well with the rest of your content. Thanks for continuing to recount Marvel's tales for us
I've always been a comic collector but it was House/Powers of X that got me back into Marvel and especially Mutant comics. I dont bother with new DC comics anymore but I'm still following Mutant comics because of that first storyline, House/Powers of X. The first Hellfire Gala absolutely blew my mind. It was insane. I loved the transformation of Mars.
U don't like dc?
@@SpikeTheWolf I never said that. I do. But I just lost interest in following them. Nothing felt as good or important. I'll still pick up stuff from them but I haven't picked up anything new since 2019 or 20. I have the entirety of the Flash, GL, and Batman New 52 runs. I like a lot of older Superman. I just haven't cared about any of their new stuff since Sideways was cancelled
Ooo you should check out Dawn of DC comics!! They’re so goooood, and personally I just got into the Krakoa era
DC= Detective comics. its not detective comics comics
@@hydraxxon1 why do some have both?
Thank you for continuing to do these videos so quickly after the tragic incident. I really appreciate all you do and appreciate these summary videos of major expanses. Thank you Rob!! Keep up the spectacular work!!
Great recap. As a dad of young kids and no free time to keep up with these events I appreciate your recaps to get me up to speed.
Definitely loved the summary! Keep doing it!
X of swords.....Jonathan Hickman....(growling)...JONATHAN HICKMAN!!! Arguably Rob's best work. When I need a good laugh, I watch the last ~20 minutes. Some of Rob's best work. "Man, you better recognize, son"! 😂😂😂
Those who know, know; and those who know, love how excited rob gets about it
Great video, summarized 5 years of comics and explained it really well.
The general summary is a good fresh idea, I've watched plenty of the videos from the whole series and still the recap mentioned things I forgot or missed. Great work❤
Thank you for the simplified summary of events. I only read Hox/PoX and then stopped. It is nice to finally know how it all ended (in a general sense).
I appreciate this. Even with the little I've managed to read, this is the first time I feel like I could follow a summary on this.
This was awesome - I really don't have the time these days to keep up with comics, so rundowns like this are very much appreciated, thank you! 🙏
LOVE these types of Summaries!! More please!!
Great video format Rob, think it was a very succinct summary of what happened and people's views on the stories involved in the Krakoan age, keep it up dude!
I like the quicker breakdowns. That way can put out more videos that love watching.
Bro i love the long expansive story arcs. Jonathan H'S long stories are my favorite
Mannnnn thank you for the explanation. The story feels way better now
Keep doing these rob but make em right before a new arc starts as a catch up
Yes! Please! Do more like this. Thank you.
You're a star, keep shining bright!
Please more of these. Makes it more accessible
Rob I love your content and I would also love if you could give us a full on rundown of how to read X-men ( Krakoan Age). What are the essential collections to seek except Powers/Houses of X ?
These summaries are helpful and easy to catch us up to what's been going on. Thank you Rob!
I might get some flak for this, but I've always hated the nation of Krakoa from its inception. Xavier's dream was essentially MLK's was, for everyone to be judged by their character, not anything outside of their control. Krakoa was, in my eyes, giving up. Does it make sense? Yeah, sure, but it always rubbed me the wrong way since it presented characters like Apocalypse and Sinister in a (very minimally) positive light. Not only that, but these characters (most heroes in Marvel for that matter) are supposed to be lessons in morality, having the X-Men essentially give up on _the_ dream and segregate themselves from everyone else presents a _bad_ message.
Exact type video I was looking for. Stopped reading after x of swords storyline and wanted to find out what happened with the amazing world Hickman established. You summed it up perfectly
I like this! You should definitely do more of these. I just got into X-men last year and I was clear on the sequence of events. This video helped me with that.
Ya this entire story arch felt convoluted and Rob's consolidated explained helped. Thanks 👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿
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Im desperate for a list of the krakoa arc of xmen, i got to the hellfire gala stuff and lost track and was never able to find a proper list of what comic to read at the right points 😩 was gutted cuz i was really enjoying the krakoa stuff, was a nice break from Xaviers school lol
SAME HERE!!! Like, how do you catch up?
Rob usually have a playlist
Yeah marvel was writing 12 different runs that tie into the overall krakoa story. got annoying and hard to follow a while there.
There are people online who have made chronological reading lists for all of the Krakoa era.
A simplified list?
HoX/PoX
X-Men (Jonathan Hickman)
X of Swords
Hellfire Gala (2021)
Inferno
X Lives/Deaths of Wolverine
X-Men (Gerry Duggan)
Immortal X-Men
X-Men Red
Judgment Day event
Sins of Sinister crossover
Hellfire Gala (2023)
Fall/Rise of House of X
X-Men Forever
That's the general "core" of the storyline. Other titles like Hellions was a lot of fun and Excalibur dealt with Apocalypse a lot but it might not be considered "essential" since the most important stuff is in X of Swords.
Again, though, if you want the "full" experience, then you can Google chronological reading orders. And, while your mileage may vary. I recommend skipping Fallen Angels, Children of the Atom, and X-Corp. None of them really add anything and are actually borderline terrible.
I really love when you make these summary videos man.
Cool video Rob. Thank you. I think you should have touched on how they stopped Moira specifically and mention Mr. Sinister and his other clones and becoming Dominion. Those played heavily into the main narrative of the Krakoan Age. Take care and peace everyone.
Love these summaries, for me it's always hard to keep up with ongoing series or past events because I don't really take the time to dive deep into each one, but this makes it a lot more entertaining
Definitely keep making these types of videos
i'm a student and i was kinda concerned about all these krakoa age of books cause i can't afford all that. so thank you for making this video!
Outside the crossovers, the only books you really need to get the "whole" story are those with "X-Men" in the title. Everything else was ancillary.
And by crossovers, I mean those that are one story shared across multiple books, not the "BIG EVENT" titles like Empyre or Judgment Day.
I like this quick rundown of the entire run. There's just too much to read that I don't have time for, so this is perfect. It'd be great if you also had a follow up video that talks about where all the remaining mutants have ended up.
The krakoan area is by far my favorite X-men storyline area
I enjoyed it fa sure and only wish we had Hickman's vision fully fleshed out
nothing good lasts forever in case of x-men or spiderman
Krakoan era was pretty mediocre for like most of the second half of its run.
I loved the whole Hickman part and it was okay after his departure as head of X
Still enjoyed it till the end
No
Wow never been this early , but I’ll have to listen to it after work 😢
Yes! Please continue a summary of arcs for those that love this stuff, but miss so much. Thanks Rob & Co.!
ABSOLUTELY SO VERY INTERESTED in this type of recap. There are so many story lines all the way back to the inception of comic books that I am absolutely never going to read. A way to get caught up on the history from such a great story teller as yourself would be an amazing option. Lets me keep up in more detail with what I find more intricately interesting in modern day. Sweeping understanding vs constant updating if you will.
And thank Goodness this age Is over. When the X-men became a government and not heros is when I left them
I do like the idea of having a general overview of the whole event so we can get the broadstrokes of it and then we can watch the playlist to get the details of it should we find the story interesting.
Hey Rob, I wanted to give you a heartfelt Thank you! I have been following you since the beginning of the MCU. You gave me something to listen to drown out the nonsense growing up.
Didn’t get a chance to tell Benny this, and want to repeat that with you, on that off chance you see this.
If possible could you do a voice over of Bennys favorite comic in his likeness as a tribute? Only feels right. TIA❤
Perfect.. I love this type of video my man.. Saves me from having into watch 4-8 hours of video, or if I miss some of your episodic videos on story arcs.. Keep doing overall simplified synopses please. 8 thumbs up
Another of your videos to add to my “must show” list for the class I start teaching here soon . . . . “X-Men Studie” for summer school!
Great video concept...keep them coming.
I had to find a breakdown of how to read this dang era. It’s so convoluted and long winded. Thankfully, some glorious comic nerd explained what was truly needed, what wasn’t, and the order.
Keep the short sweet stories coming!
I definitely like this shorter recap video. I had started reading this when it started but fell off. Thanks for filling us in!
We wish you the best man, there are no words for some things in life but always heartfelt best wishes.
this format is awesome! if i had one suggestion, it would be: Include your favorite fight of the story, it's always nice to hear you getting pumped when stuff pops off.
Keep it pushing Rob. We love u
I would like to understand Stan Lee starting Marvel Studios told by you.
You’re telling of the death of Silver Surfer was sublime.
The thing is Rob, what everyone universally responds to is when you’re excited. You could explain butter being spread on toast and if you think it’s cool, everyone will see it.
The flipside of that is, the sincere way you include us into your decision-making allows this community to feel like a community and that is special.
You are our leader here, trust your gut and let wisdom flow henceforth.
Honestly had no interest in X Men for a long time but the X of Swords event and this were do good I couldn't help but be interested in it. It's been really good writing. Honestly hate to see it all get wrecked like it did. To see the XMen and the mutants rise to such levels and have such an amazing story only for it to be destroyed and rushed to be cleaned up for the sake of continuity with Disney and the MCU is just infuriating
Wait when did mctaggert have mutant powers 😂I thought she was a normal ass Irish woman
She was always the "key to everything". I mean they had to backfill her in with wacky ass powers which reset the entire timeline of the universe every time she died, but...
I read via the Marvel app.
The reading guides are super helpful. with the order of the comics, but as each book drops on Mondays, they seemed to be out of order and it makes keeping up tough!
nice summary
to answer your question, I'd love to see more of the finer details of this.
i've heard the name of this event for years, but too intimidated due to scale.
also it would help to have maybe a trades guide for this in the event i ever got the budget to buy some of these, or if my library had these.
I want more of these! I don't have time for the 3 hour FULL summaries, so I would prefer these general overviews that give me enough to chew on. I only started X-Men with Fall of X, so this gives me a lot of context. Even if I were to go back and read the entirety of Krakoa, it is good to see the full picture in a normal length video.
So this video is for folks like me for sure... One thing I gotta know is why Beast was so evil and did that feel like a natural progression to anyone or was that out of left field? Also, were all ancient mutants just automatically externals (Genesis and crew)?
The beast thing is a bit of both... He's been getting more and more sinister in his ways for a while now... But at the same time... The switch in the Krakoan era was a bit drastic...
No, most of the Arrako mutants were mortal. But I get the sense a there was a larger amount of immortal mutants on Arrako than on Earth.
@@drewtheunspoken3988 I think Arrako had the higher mutant population in general...
@@drewtheunspoken3988Probably because they have massive life spans.
@@joshuaohuka7719Frankly, it feels like Beast went full assimilationist.
I mean, Xavier asked him to head up a CIA and he was still hanging around Abigail Brand. Aka Joss Whedon’s answer to the question “what if America’s Middle Eastern policy walked around on two legs?”
Side note, the inclusion of Threnody on Beast’s list of crimes was in part because of an episode of the Podcast Cerebro where the guest of the Threnody episode read Hank McCoy for filth. It was wonderful.
Still wished she appeared.
I wouldnt mind a bunch of long videos explaining each era of the Krakoan age (Dawn, Reign, Destiny, Fall) !!
nimrod killing juggernuts makes no sense, its like hes only as strong as the writer wants him to be
❤ these summaries especially for the x titles.
I feel like Moira's power was just that. A power, not an ability. Ability implies that you are able to use it or it was able to happen (or not). Her power was that of "cause and affect" and not something she was "able" to do but may or may not always happen or be chosen.
The term you are looking for is "Passive Ability".
Long time subscriber first time commenter….I absolutely love the fact that you gave a “cliff notes” version of the x-men.I stopped collecting in the 90s but thanks to you and your channel helped me get up to date with my marvel,Keep up the get work 👍
Yeah. It was fun, but felt very forced and convoluted af. I really dislike how Moira was not only made a mutant, she’s more powerful than anyone in the universe. She just has to pull
a Kenny and everything is reset. Sinister weaponizing such and then making clone suicide bombs of Moira as a safeguard. That’s just lame to me. Way too much hinging on Moiras existence. Just too convenient plot device and not for me.
I think the power structure and hierarchy that the Mutants obtained, is the best aspect of the story. The drugs, trading, businesses etc that kept the mutants high on the hog.
I get that. Time resets can be annoying.
I did like all of the trade and runnings that happened. That’s why I loved books like the Marauders, Sword, Xmen Red, New Mutants and even X-Corp.
Considering current events, I like how Fenris was the villain of that last one.
@@christopherbennett5858 totally agree. The spin offs/ subplot books were great. Those were the “ fun” moments. 👊🏾
@@jaebee81 Yeah. New mutants was pretty great even though it changed writers constantly.
And I feel like, if Vita Ayala wrote the phone book, I’d read that lol.
Now I want to read those infinity comics because apparently the last arc of the Xmen one was Selene using the externals to be the villain.
What I never got is that in a world full off super heros and meta humans mutants are still seen a abominations. And that organizations that hunt them are still being funded.
Any content from you Rob, is more than welcomed by all!!!!
The krakoan era was my first real attempt at keeping up with superhero comics within existing continuity and if I'm being real;awesome start but it's still such a DRAG to follow the story with so many different books coming out and intermingled events with other heroes that it threw me off by way of pure confusion. Fun story line and at least now I know the X-Men are my favourite super team but lord is it hard to recommend to other people just starting out😂😂
Honestly could've been longer. Its a good summary bjt definitely eoukdve been nice to rxtend the gormat just a bit to include some more details
I think this is was a well done era , just like the outback team era. Im kinda glad it ended though with a possible second time in the future. I personally look forward to whats after.
As a person that doesnt read comics, I love these big overviews
Loved this summary. What love to get more for other big events!
Thank you for continuing to work. Please be safe we can't lose another from this community.
Let’s go!!
That was fast
Fuck!!
Gotta go fast Rob.@@comics_explained
@@comics_explainedHe was faster then your Notification😄
Yes, would love for you to cover age of apocalypse
Exodus was the only one who fought to bring back Krakoa. Not sure why they fought against him in the end
Loved.
This.
Kind.
Of.
Video.
I missed these kinds of videos, it’s what got me into the channel.
My favourite era is still the Utopian age.
Love the general summary for sure well done. After watching all the videos of this the past...year or so a general summary is nice thanks
I need a summary of Marauders because I’m still trying to wrap my head around the relevance of Threshold and how it ties into the fall of Krakoa.
This was Kitty's attempt at giving the Genoshan mutants another go, since resurrection was working too slowly. She created a box from mysterium, placed genetic material from the millions lost in it, and sent it back before life was thought to exist. From that box, life grew and eventually, Threshold. But war being what it is, they destroyed themselves with their own weapons, the only surviving members being Sublime, his sister Arkea, and Krakoa itself. Cassandra was left behind in the ruins of Threshold for good measure because she's not easy to kill and what harm could she do a billion years in the past? (I'm sure she'll be back, when there's a reason to do it)
@@VolguusZildrohar so Kitty was ultimately responsible for mutants appearing on Earth, and not the Celestials?
@@ugoeze7360 just the Threshold mutants. They were wiped out in war when they created Sublime and Arkea as living weapons that turned on their creators. Okkara, the only survivor of Threshold, expanded and became the living island that Apocalypse and his clan would later fight to protect. It became Krakoa after that battle.
@@VolguusZildroharAnd then they got resurrected again in "New" Krakoa. Those people are gonna be messed up.
This era got me through the pandemic and coming years. I hate that it was rushed just so the X-Men could come to the MCU. I hope we can find something that matches the excitement of seeing what your favorite mutants were going to wear to the hellfire gala.
Loved the Krakoan era!
Literally started my love for the X-Men with krakoa and now marvel is killing it just as we could have gotten a Cosmic X-Men team exploring the galaxy, ya hate to see it...
Apocalypse in a suit seems so strange and weird!!! It feels forced on him..
It seems like so many sci-fi stories screw up the resurrection idea, like here and several episodes of Black Mirror. They need to "transfer" their consciousness to a new body. If it's a backup, then the original is dying like in The Prestige.
Settings like Marvel and other American mainstream tend to acknowledge the existence of a soul as an in setting element. This allows them to sidestep certain issues such tech would bring up, like multiple copy spawn.
@@tokukeitaroAnd it was literally the thing that caused the Morrigan to become extremely hostile in Xfactor; the souls were pulled from death in the resurrection process and it made her mad.
Yes, more of this.
Call them Rob’s Recaps (or Rob Recaps).
You’re welcome
Do a summary of what happened to Hank McCoy throughout the Krakoan Age.
These are cool videos as always. I remember watching you a mad long time ago and your passion made my acute existential dread dissipate a great deal. Thanks for being you and doing you. 🙏🏾
These general summaries are a cool idea.
Beyond omega level, enigma the crown
I was really interested in the series for the first couple arcs, but got caught up and left. And when I came back I had no idea where to start or what to read in what order, it was way too confusing