When I bought a N64, my mother told me, that the SNES looks better. At first I was like: "this isn't true", but when I grew older I understood that the SNES has clean pixel graphics, an unbeatable 2D style!
I think that 3D graphics were so mind blowing at the time that the novelty really clouded our collective judgment. Looking back now as a whole the 5th generation probably aged the worst out of any generation while the 16 bit era aged like a fine wine.
@@RetroComparisons It only is the case of N64. I think N64 is too problematic with video cables. If you use RGB SCART ( like Packapunch UK ) on PS1 it has very nice clear image. Newer ones (GC,PS2,WII,XboxOG) used component cables: 5x wires which are awesome. PC users of 1995-1999 early 3D games had things way better and much more power.
@@pekkahollola7646 The PS1 cleans up really good with its video image. I use RGB Scart cables for it whereas with the N64 I have the UltraHDMI mod and even though it gives the best possible signal it's still a blurry mess for a majority of games. PC users did get much better 3D stuff at the time with the clean image of something akin to the Dreamcast.
Yes this. Difference in PCs vs. Consoles are the proprietary video output cables. In 1990-2000s "retro PCs" there is only common VGA-port cable. But in consoles authentic and original (=meaning best quality) video cables get rare and expensive pretty fast. I had to order some rarer cables from Japan. In Europe 90% of people don't hold on to older cables when new generation comes cables and equipment are trashed. Same said to consoles' proprietary power supply PSU units.
Well, when you compare 3D games like StarFox, or FPS like Perfect Dark, or 2D games like Yoshi's Story, or racing games like Mario Kart, N64 is always better. Only if you compare different kinds of games, a 2D game vs a 3D game, perhaps 2D games look nicer, but you are not comparing the same type of game.
It's astonishing to see just how many Super Nintendo games were also released for the Playstation (and for that matter, the SEGA Saturn). I had no idea just how substantial the overlap was between these 'contempary' systems in Japan. Thank you for the amazing job you do with these videos, I don't know how you find the time, but it's greatly appreciated.
I couldn't believe the sheer number of crossovers either. I was researching every SNES game alphabetically and it seemed like every few games there was another that said it had a PS1 port. Thank you so much for watching! It means a lot to me for you to take the time out of your day to watch this and comment on it:)
@@MysteryAGMLegend I was mentioning this to someone recently that if some of these companies bundled a bunch of their older games from this era and translated them they could make a ton of money with minimal work. Maybe someday that will happen.
@@xGMV the songs were arranged to be “performed” by SNES hardware and i think they still sound best there. to be fair, i think the FMVs are fine as fan service/bonuses, but i don’t like them interrupting gameplay especially when you just see the in-engine characters repeat what happened in the animation…they break the flow of big moments (like frog clearing the path to magus’ keep) and feel redundant
@@triborn217 CT on SNES is a perfect game. DS adds that bonus grind dungeon that’s a total chore, and even if you ignore it, it’s there, quietly undermining perfection (the game even draws your attention to it sometimes, nudging you to go there). i also don’t appreciate the added scene that forces continuity with CC, a game whose creator at the time said “isn’t a sequel” but still goes out of its way to ruin CT’s endings. SNES remains the definitive - it’s a closed circuit, with hardly a single flaw (the font’s nicer, too)
Sometimes even better, Earthworm Jim 2, Chrono Trigger or Cotton 100% looks better on SNES, there's no need to bother with the PS' annoying and sometimes gamebreaking loading times as well...
That Casper game on the PS1 looked super clean, the casper ghost character looked amazing for a PS1 game, im used to a lot of PS1 games graphics not aging well. Great video, love having these on while cooking or relaxing.
Thanks so much for watching! I agree, that Casper game was way better than I was expecting. It's amazing how nice a lot of these games clean up with a scart cable and an upscaler.
Thanks for watching! It's crazy how many of these got ported to both systems. When I first starting putting the list together I though it would be like 30-40 games.
I love seeing this kind of content! I'm a retro gamer for life! This was easier for me to watch on 2x speed because there's SO much to see! These guys put in a TON of work capturing all this for us!
Thanks so much for checking this out:) That's a really good idea to watch this on 2x speed. You can't go wrong with these retro games, there's just something so awesome about the pick up and play nature of these. No DLC, no micro transactions, no 50gb patches that you have to wait for before playing, just put in the cartridge/disc and start playing.
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That SNES sound chip is probably the most nostalgic thing about the 16 bit generation for me. It is instantly recognizable and no other console sounds like it.
Genesis sounds like arcade, NES sounds like contemporary consoles of 8-bib, but unfortunately, SNES is the only 2D retro system that sounds so unique, no other system have that sound of SNES (an it's sad, because I want to hear more SNES soundchip style on new indie retro games).
A really brief period in time when a system fully capable of impressive 3D graphics still had developers focused on 2D. I like to see when they combine both, like Castlevania. The Amiga was sort of like this too, where it took like a year for game developers to get up to speed on what the machine could do, so you had ports from 8 bit games on it.
Part of me wishes that we got a full 32 bit 2D generation because stuff like Castlevania look and play incredible. At least we did get that brief period where the Saturn & PS1 were putting out games like that before focusing mostly on 3D stuff.
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What a GREAT idea! Excellent video! Please, we need a SNES vs. Sega Saturn comparison next. Sega Retro has a list of SNES games released on Sega platforms.
Thanks so much for checking this out! I actually just posted the opposite of what you suggested lol! It's the Genesis vs the PS1 in the newest video. I think I'm going to do the SNES vs Saturn at some point in the not to distance future though too.
💖💖💖YOU DO NOT HAVE TO FEAR DEATH IF YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST, AND TRUST IN HIM WITH ALL YOUR HEART, BECAUSE HE ATONED FOR YOU FOR ALL YOUR INSULTS, THAT YOU WOULD OBTAIN PEACE WITH ALMIGHTY GOD, AND GO TO HEAVEN BY HIS GRACE!!! (The Holy Bible according to the Gospel of John, chapter 5 and verse 24, Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God says, whose existence can be proven by countless people from their own lives, says: Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath eternal life. He is not condemned but has passed from death to life.)
The PS1 was so unique in that it started out competing with the SNES & Genesis in their dying days, the Saturn & N64 in their heyday, and then eventually with the Dreamcast for a few years.
there was something magical about older consoles. Developers would get very good at exploring the full potential and sometimes it would take years. I remember playing FF9 and saying "wow, ps1 can do that?" Nowadays we change platforms too fast and the full potential is reduced to graphic power only. It was a magical time:)
I agree 100%. It was so cool too to see how the same game would be on different consoles like sometimes the Genesis & SNES versions or PS1 & N64 versions would be completely different despite being consoles from the same generation.
i believe the first xbox is from 2001, 360(2005), One(2013), S(2016) So yeah, we are changing consoles faster nowadays. And I'm not even mentioning the fact that most players are now on phones.
@@ricardotakahasi8165 I assumed you meant generations since Xbox One and S are in the same gen. Phones are a bit more like PC gaming in that they're aren't seperated by multi-year lifecycles but also devs don't want to drain the batteries out too much by pushing them. Otherwise tho I generally agree with you that some of the magic is lost in modern games but personally I think that's down to rising costs and perhaps for most people, the PS3 era was the last surprise in terms of technology jump from its previous gen. Apart from Nintendo, I suppose consoles have become a bit closer to PC gaming with its mid gen upgrades
SNES really did well and held its own, even when a more powerful machine like the PS1 was introduced. Kudos to the SNES hardware for keeping up so well!
Most of these games were straight ports from SNES to PS1 with little or no improvements, so it's not SNES hardware "keeping up" it's just sh!tty PS1 versions.
@@sovo1212 Absolutely! Just look at the improvements of Star Ocean 2 over 1 or Tales of Ethernia over Tales of Phantasia. Also MK3, Raiden, Captain Commando, etc.
I still have a ways to go on this video, from what I see the graphical improvements for most of the games is a warm welcome! I was expected to see more direct ports. Asteroids takes the high quality graphics cup so far! This is some phenominal work sir!!!!!!!
Thank you so much buddy! Take your time on this one as it's way longer than I originally thought it would be. Actually, scratch that. Stop now because you've already reached the peak with Asteroids. It's all downhill from there.
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💖💖💖YOU DO NOT HAVE TO FEAR DEATH IF YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST, AND TRUST IN HIM WITH ALL YOUR HEART, BECAUSE HE ATONED FOR YOU FOR ALL YOUR INSULTS, THAT YOU WOULD OBTAIN PEACE WITH ALMIGHTY GOD, AND GO TO HEAVEN BY HIS GRACE!!! (The Holy Bible according to the Gospel of John, chapter 5 and verse 24, Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God says, whose existence can be proven by countless people from their own lives, says: Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath eternal life. He is not condemned but has passed from death to life.)
There's a lot more titles on both systems than I would have thought. Amazing work putting this all together, Bill. There's a fair few I knew were on both (mainly the Capcom and Midway games and a few others), but there's plenty I don't recognize. If we are giving a winner, it's probably definitely the PSX, but some games fair better than others in terms of how much better they are on Sony's machine. Norse by Norsewest/Lost Vikings 2 is spiffied up on the PS1 (and Saturn and PC); the fighting games and Captain Commando have nicer sprites, details, and animation; T&E Soft's Pebble Beach and Augusta games and also PGA Tour '96 as well as the Madden games benefit a lot from the PSX's horsepower; the 90s arcade game ports are closer; DooM is a lot more performant and better looking (though the SNES port is quite impressive); etc. But then you have International Superstar Soccer Deluxe and some others that basically got the "SEGA CD" treatment of a slight upgrade with some extra audio and CD-Audio music.
Thanks for watching my friend and for always support me on here! I thought that the SNES held its own pretty well though a lot of that may have to do with that Sega CD treatment you mentioned which is a term I may need to borrow going forward. It's always interesting to see what would get only a CD audio upgrade or what would get a total overhaul. I guess this could be said about any gen of consoles but the PS1 in particular is pretty fascinating to me in that it offered games that were on the same level as the SNES/Genesis, had it's own thing going on putting up a great fight against the Saturn/N64, and was also able to hold its own against the Dreamcast as I've been finding out more and more while doing the current season. There's going to be a ton of duplicates but I'm thinking of putting out the same video comparing the Genesis to the PS1 since I probably already have probably over 90% of the footage that I need and can get that knocked out pretty quick.
💖💖💖YOU DO NOT HAVE TO FEAR DEATH IF YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST, AND TRUST IN HIM WITH ALL YOUR HEART, BECAUSE HE ATONED FOR YOU FOR ALL YOUR INSULTS, THAT YOU WOULD OBTAIN PEACE WITH ALMIGHTY GOD, AND GO TO HEAVEN BY HIS GRACE!!! (The Holy Bible according to the Gospel of John, chapter 5 and verse 24, Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God says, whose existence can be proven by countless people from their own lives, says: Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath eternal life. He is not condemned but has passed from death to life.)
PS1 is my all-time favorite console. But if SNES and PS1 are close enough in graphics, I always go for the SNES version when getting a ROM. No loading times. Smaller files. The one exception is Mickey's Wild Adventure (AKA Mickey Mania). I prefer the moose chase on the PS1 more.
I always forget how bad early CD-based consoles were with their loading times until I start playing them so that's definitely a good idea to go with the cartridge based games when there's little to no difference.
💖💖💖YOU DO NOT HAVE TO FEAR DEATH IF YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST, AND TRUST IN HIM WITH ALL YOUR HEART, BECAUSE HE ATONED FOR YOU FOR ALL YOUR INSULTS, THAT YOU WOULD OBTAIN PEACE WITH ALMIGHTY GOD, AND GO TO HEAVEN BY HIS GRACE!!! (The Holy Bible according to the Gospel of John, chapter 5 and verse 24, Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God says, whose existence can be proven by countless people from their own lives, says: Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath eternal life. He is not condemned but has passed from death to life.)
There is a massive library of Sega mega drive games on the xbox one. The fact that a system with half the bits (32x is 32bit, the 68000 is 16/32-bit instructions) is even competing is a testament to how well the mega drive creators did. See the logical issue here. These games look just like the mega drive versions or a little better. There was also the mega cd and PS1 versions of mickey mania. The mega CD version is better than the SNES version in almost every way. The mega CD version is close but worse than the PS1 version. PS1 version has better colours and some backgrounds look better. Other than that the mega CD and the PS1 versions are mostly the same game. The SNES version has less content, worse music and sound. Does the picture of the SNES now look as good? There were console out at the time that had better hardware than both the SNES and base mega drive. The 3DO 1993-1997 is an example. SNES 1990-2005. Mega Drive 1988-1997 (Sega)/1998-1999 (Majesco) The 3DO is getting a fan made version of Mortal Kombat, this is still in development and is near acrade perfect for graphics and sound. The Neo Geo's (AES) (April 26, 1990-April 22, 2004 first run) graphics and sound were largely superior to other contemporary home consoles, computers (such as the Sharp X68000) and even some arcade systems. This system was not as powerful as the 3DO. Ports are normally close to their originals but can have remastered graphics wise or have some added content. Mickey Mania on the PS 1 is remastered from the mega cd version and not the SNES version. The idea of a port is to be faithful to the original. So yes both the original and port should be close. Does this say anything about the older and newer hardware. Well it wont. PS1 was about 3D processing and the SNES 2D processing. PS 1 is a far better console hardware wise but if they redesigned the game, then it wouldnt be a port. It would be a different game. The difference can be seen in arcade ports. Here the developer is using the arcade as the original. Mortal Kombat 1, 2 and 3 are far better on later hardware.
I think part of it is just that alot of these cross-gen games were straight conversions. They weren't a case of SNES games aspiring to their PS1 counterparts. Just SNES spritework stretched for the PS1. Easier than redrawing it. When it gets down to 2D games built from the ground-up for PS1, like Symphony of the Night, Heart of Darkness, Alundra, Legend of Mana, Rayman, it's pretty clear that the PS1 is capable of far fancier spritework and animation and effects.
Just found your channel and its really well done, I love to watch these long informative videos when going to bed, its really relaxing, just subbed. Also there are so many hidden gems I never knew about!
Thank you so much for your support! I'm so glad you're enjoying my content:) Oh yeah there's so many games that I never heard of before that I discovered while making these videos that don't get the love and recognition that they deserve.
Watching Uncharted Waters: New Horizons on the thumbnail made me click immediately. More so since it's remake Uncharted Waters Origin has been out for months. Thank you very much for such amazing compilation 👏🏼
The SNES, my childhood console is my favorite Nintendo console (Although the Switch is coming pretty damn close). The fact that it could match up with some of the earlier titles in the PS1 library speaks to how impressive it is. Of course there were some games that the SNES had no business having (Doom and Street Fighter Alpha 2 for example) but the others were either at par or spot on. I didn't know there that many games back then considering that a good half of those on the list never left Japan. This definitely speaks for the immense potential the Super Nintendo truly had.
The Genesis was my childhood console and I still love it to this day and even as a Sega kid I think the SNES is just as good if not better in some regards. Either way both of those consoles stand the test of time. Having Doom and Street Fighter Alpha 2 on the SNES is a pretty amazing feat even if they're not the best way to play the games. Those both seem like something you'd see come out this decade from the homebrew scene.
I'm on the same page. There was allegedly a time, where Nintendo was looking at outfitting the snes with a much more powerful CPU and associated hardware and going into the 3D realm with the SNES. I saw some vids last year, where the claim was made and it showcased some prototypes. If that was really the real deal, that SNES was capable os SO MUCH MORE!
@@RetroComparisons I know it. That SNES was a superior piece of hardware and I think they were capable of doing so much more with it. I think it may have been similar to how PC's are upgraded and the market probably wasn't there for that with most consumers.
I believe the reason SNES did well was the game developers would put a lot of time into making those games fun and a lot of money went into each game. Plus the games were 2d mostly, and focused on fun and control. When the later consoles came out, it seemed the games were just not as fun and as well developed.
What an incredible job, I've been looking for a channel that compares games on consoles to see which is the best version to play, I finally found it, I'll recommend it to my friends who love RETRO games, thank you very much.
💖💖💖YOU DO NOT HAVE TO FEAR DEATH IF YOU BELIEVE IN JESUS CHRIST, AND TRUST IN HIM WITH ALL YOUR HEART, BECAUSE HE ATONED FOR YOU FOR ALL YOUR INSULTS, THAT YOU WOULD OBTAIN PEACE WITH ALMIGHTY GOD, AND GO TO HEAVEN BY HIS GRACE!!! (The Holy Bible according to the Gospel of John, chapter 5 and verse 24, Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God says, whose existence can be proven by countless people from their own lives, says: Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath eternal life. He is not condemned but has passed from death to life.)
I like how the SNES and PS1 sometimes had different art styles from each other. Because of that, there were some games I thought looked better on the SNES. I'm impressed!
This is an awesome video. But I have a suggestion. Maybe you should let one clip showcase the game and how it looks and sounds on one console and then letting the second video clip do the same on the rivaling console and then letting them play at the same time so we can really see and hear the differences between the two like a full experience.
Thanks for the suggestion and for checking this video out! For these compilation videos I like having them side by side with the audio completely split. For a lot of these games though I have separate short videos where I do about 30 seconds of footage for each and then another 30 where they're side by side.
I came here to say the exact same thing "Blackened HEart" and "8BitSnkBoy" did -- I'm a bit shocked by the amount of overlap! I expected this to be a five-minute video when I saw the title, not a solid hour. Then again, the 90s were such a crazy time for video gaming in terms of the speed of how fast the technology was improving. It made the life cycles for consoles as "top of the line" shockingly brief, with huge generational leaps in graphics happening ever 4 years or so that make the generation gaps today look meaningless by comparison. However, a user base is a user base, so often older consoles -- especially SNES, Genesis, and Game Boy -- got well-supported for years past what "last-gen" consoles typically do today. The time period of nearly 2 years between the launches of the Playstation and the N64 meant that the SNES, in particular, got Nintendo's full backing for a lot longer than most people remember as Nintendo continued to back an aging but still-impressive horse... because it was the best horse they had! Anyway, I'm not going to get into individual comparisons here, but I do have to give SNES developers kudos for doing some very impressive work. The fact that they could make games like "Street Fighter Alpha 2" and "Doom" work on SNES at all are a real testament to their skill with the hardware. There were clearly things PS1 could do that SNES could never attempt -- advanced polygonal games, especially -- but SNES fares so much better than Genesis would have on most of these comparisons that it does show the SNES hardware had some real hidden potential it only tapped into in its final years. Awesome achievement as a comparison video on your part!
I was just as shocked as you with how many crossovers there were. As I was putting together the list for this I'd check out the Giantbomb page and think "oh my god, another one that is on the PS1!". As crazy as the 70s and 80s were with technology advances in the industry the 90s were a whole different level. While the TG-16 & Genesis were out in 1990 the NES was still the most commercially relevant and before the decade ended Shenmue was out so I guess in a way it's not too surprising with the volume of games on different generations but it's still interesting nonetheless. Street Fighter Alpha 2 & Doom are minor miracles that they ran on a 16 bit system with SFA2 in particular running quite well. After 5 years of doing this it still fascinates me to see what these consoles could handle especially when seeing stuff from their later years. Thanks as always my friend for your support! It truly means a lot to me.
Nice ride down memory lane! What I can't believe is that developers sometimes use to make two completely different games for each platform but release under the same name. Not like today ports, these were completely different games in some cases.
Thanks for checking this out! Yeah I always found that odd when 2 games came out at the same time but were completely different. Jurassic Park is a great example where the Genesis, SNES and NES games are all different.
I think that may be a poorly dumped rom that I was using. It was one of the first games I recorded for the channel and I found a translated rom on a sketchy site lol!
SNES is and always will be my all-time favorite game system. Revolutionary for it's time. Crazy how most games look as good as the PS1, and some Even Better!
To be fair, many of those ports were very cheaply made and not improved nor optimized at least. So on top of not using at all the power of the PSX, had the minus of the longer loading times of the CD format.
@@diannerenard Very true. I'm doing a series right now on the PS1 vs the Dreamcast and the roles are reversed where the PS1 is pushing the limitations of the hardware to the max while a majority of Dreamcast ports are glorified upscaled versions.
Doom ps1 is based on the Jaguar Port while SNES is custom and more close to the pc version. Its why it looks way different even in level layout. Though the SNES version also had lots of slowdown due to this, its visible in the footage too.
This is a great list and a wonderful resource. Though I was a bit sad since while you did mention some JRPG remakes in the video, you still either missed or just didn't mention some of the other SNES to PS1 JRPG remakes.
@18:30 imagine it's the 1990s, you are ten years old and have no internet and are at a friends house up late and can't sleep.. everyone is sleeping and the lights are out it is 2am you have to pee, but thought you heard a noise down the hallway and are to afraid too go to the bathroom, so you turn on the PlayStation for something to do and this is all you have to play....
Wow. Over an hour! I didn't know so many SNES games were also on the PS1. That's Amazing. I'm still watching it but it seems so far most are Japan only. Wish I knew how to read Japanese cause there's so many games I want to play from there but can't
I didn't think there would be this much crossover either, I expected maybe 70 games at most. Hopefully some of these games eventually get an English translation at some point.
Really nice list. The only one I see missing is Romance of The Three Kingdoms IV Wall of Fire. The psx version had fmvs for events and was visually quite different.
Thanks for checking this out:) Romance Of The Three Kingdoms IV is hidden away at 49:00. TH-cam only allows for 100 chapters so I had to lump the whole series together in order to make it work.
Cool vid, I've noticed a lot of them are pretty much identical where others some slight differences like Doom the walls look slightly more polished on PS1 being more powerful than SNES so that makes sense where MK 2 and SF2 are nearly the same, Samurai Shodown the sprites are larger on PS1 closer to the arcade port. Cool video. Big Hurt I noticed was one exception of the SNES version having bigger sprites of the batters over the PS1 version. Do you have a video like this doing SNES and Sega games side by side? That would be cool too!😃Those are interesting since a lot are nearly identical where others are different as well.
Thank you so much buddy for checking this one out! I was surprised at how close a lot of these were as it's pretty much like comparing the Genesis to the Saturn which I though had a lot more differences than these two consoles did. The sprites on the fighting games like MK, SF & Samurai Shodown were a lot smaller on the SNES but are still good ports overall. Street Fighter Alpha 2 in particular is incredible that they got it to run on the SNES as is the same case with Doom. I do have a video with the SNES vs Genesis where the overall majority are very similar visually though the biggest difference is the audio. th-cam.com/video/5_ULnOZK3nk/w-d-xo.html
@@RetroComparisons Yeah the sprites seem closer with mk' sf compared to samurai like samurai that one guy especially is much bigger the fat dude lol. But yeah I hear ya graphically they're very close with mk, sf here I've noticed. Oh nice yeah the snes I like guessing sometimes which versionnisnto which console. Sometimes similar to snes and ps1 where the sprites are larger for ps1 I've noticed snes has slightly larger sprites than sega genesis but it depends on the game too. Nice ill check it out man. 😃👍🏼 even so busy following MK 1 news this week all kver the place haha looks insane but lots of jobs to MK 1 and mk 2.
@@MKF30 Oh nice! Enjoy the MK1 stuff. I need to get caught up on that so I'll be tuning into your channel. Lol yeah the big dude in the SNES version of Samurai Shodown doesn't look as massive which is maybe better for his health anyways. For some reason the SNES runs games in an 8:7 aspect ratio so when they get presented in 4:3 like everyone experienced it in the 90s on CRTs (as well as how I present it on my channel) the sprites get stretched out.
@@RetroComparisons Yeah that's interesting regarding the ratios. Didnt know that. Pretty interesting oh I will be doing a breakdown of MK 1s gameplay haha so far I just have a reaction for thr firstvtrailer weeks ago but this game is looking more like mk 9 with one style and a plate of moves for each character instead of variations like the past 2 games where you were restricted to certain special moves per character depending on your style and mk 11 didn't have many combos but MK 1 has combos back again 😁
I've always been under the impression that a newer console shows up before the former console's potential is fully realised. Snes version of Street Racer exactly reminded me of that.
This might sound crazy, but I've always thought that the PS1 was like a slightly more advanced CD-ROM based Super Nintendo with just more memory that which could pump out cutscenes and a bit more 3D effects. It's kind of why a lot of these games look almost the same on both systems. PS1 is what the Super Nintendo would have been like if it were CD-ROM based.
I just can’t believe that there were soooooo many 2D games including ported games on the ps1,and all despites the hardware was never designed with 2D in mind because sony wanted to think forward,but it just didn’t stop developers to find clever ways around it to get their 2D games running on the ps1 by using flat textured polygons and convert all their sprites and background tile sets to it,what a courage move from sony to leave out 2D hardware altogether,it may could,ve backfired on sony if there was no way to get around that limitation.
In the first game, the girl on the staircase, the one pumping her fist to cheer, should be a fighter. As fast as she could throw a punch she'd win easily.
PS1 was a powerhouse when compared to SNES hence why some games look so much better on PS1 (even 2D ones). But because SNES could display many more colors when compared to Genesis, it fares better when put up against PS1.
Not a lot has changed. I'm wondering if these games were first on the SNES and then were quick ports to the PS1 so they changed them as little as possible. The 16 bit JRPG style I like better than the 3D style JRPG that came about after the SNES and when a game was ported to the PS1 I was happy when little changed.
I get the feeling that probably was the case for a lot of these where they started out as 16 bit games that got a 1 to 1 port to the PS1. There are some that got complete overhauls like The Lost Vikings 2 but more often than not a lot of these are similar outside of the CD quality soundtracks. Anywho, thanks for checking this out!
@@RetroComparisons A funny thing I'm reading about the Casper games is that the SNES version was developed by Absolute (the company that made A Boy and His Blob) and published by Natsume, but the SFC version was developed by Natsume and published by KSS. Kind of strange. The Gameboy version seems to be yet another game, published by Natsume and developed by Bonsai. Adding to the strangeness, the Gameboy Color version is a port of the 3do/Saturn/PSX version, rather than any of the versions previously on any Nintendo systems. The common info, like on Wikipedia, describes it as 2 games of the same name, but it looks more like 4 distinct games to me. I can't find any exact dates, but I'm guessing Universal started shopping around for contracts and signed off on the SNES, SFC and Gameboy versions before the 3do/Saturn/PSX/GBC version and that they ultimately felt the latter was going to be the better money maker. Probably only see this kind of thing with licensed movie tie-in games, since they're treated more like time sensitive merchandise, which is reflected in the splash screens, where it says MCA Universal Merchandising Inc. I can't believe I read/wrote that much about Casper video games.
@@desktorp Lmao! My brain started to melt just trying to put all of that together in my mind. I love how not only did Nintendo have 2 separate games on the same console but their handheld counterpart wasn't based on either. This may tie or beat Jurassic Park for most games with the same name from the same time period but as completely different ports.
@@RetroComparisons the PS1 port even had an exclusive sequel, Advanced VG 2. I'd recommend that one also. It heavily improves upon the first one, has a few more characters, and overall feels a lot better to play.
I've said since launch that the PSX is a wonderful 2D machine. But load times can be bad at times due to the CD format. But it actually is superior to the SNES in every way in 2D power.
O projeto do snes é de 1988, o playstation 1 um projeto de 1992/1993. Tirando a diferença de avanço de hardware, as limitações do SNES e do PS1, o Snes não faz nada feio em relação ao PS1 no 2D. No 3D não tem como. Com chips especiais o Snes fica próximo do PS1 no 2D apesar da enorme diferença de resolução entre os dois.
Os chips introduzidos nos cartuchos ajudaram muito na longevidade do vídeo game. Se não fosse eles o console teria ficado datado muito rápido, foi uma sacada muito inteligente por parte da Nintendo.
@@edvansouza236 A nintendo projetou o snes para ter chips especiais pois ela sabia que se tivesse um hardware mais potente não venderia tanto. Maioria dos jogos nem precisaria de um hardware mais potente logo ela focou que quando precisaria colocaria esses chips no cartuchos que foi uma sacada muito mais inteligente e barata de se conseguir mais potencia no hardware.
11:19 Earthworm Jim They took out a beautiful running waterfall and replaced it with a big still image of a planet. I guess they thought the colors and details would look good but it just seems boring that way.
Great video. The viewing angle for the FIFA games is completely different. And Frogger is so chunky and cartoony on the PS1. Up to this point in the video SNES in front, which has really surprised me 😮
Thanks so much for checking this out! There's quite a few SNES games that surprised me too. When you get to Lost Vikings 2 that's another one that could go either way depending on which art style you prefer.
@@RetroComparisons I prefer the SNES version of Lost Vikings 2 and Lemmings. So on 2D stuff the SNES has the edge. But it was in 3D that PS1 excelled. The Tomb Raider games would not have been possible on the SNES.
I don't think Dragon Quest 4 was released on the SNES though it was on the NES. Surprisingly UMK3 didn't get a PS1 release which is strange because the Saturn did.
I didn’t appreciate the SNES like I should’ve in the 90’s. I begged for one and when I got a job my mom didn’t allow me to buy one. Even if I had purchased one, I still wouldn’t have appreciated the SNES like I do now.
I didn't either unfortunately. I grew up with the Genesis and had that stupid childish mentality where Sega rules and Nintendo drools. Looking back there's classic game after classic game and a large majority still look nice and play great in 2023.
I always forget how bad the loading times were on CD based consoles back then until I start playing. Even having an ODE which helps a little still takes a long time.
In one sense it seems odd they'd wait since their 2 biggest competitors already had next gen consoles out but then again the SNES came out 2 years after the Genesis so I guess they wanted to capitalize on the system as much as they could.
@@RetroComparisons Yeah, they were touting games like DKC, Killer Instinct and Doom. A schoolmate of mine had SNES Doom and boy did he love it. His PC was not up to running the original.
When I bought a N64, my mother told me, that the SNES looks better. At first I was like: "this isn't true", but when I grew older I understood that the SNES has clean pixel graphics, an unbeatable 2D style!
I think that 3D graphics were so mind blowing at the time that the novelty really clouded our collective judgment. Looking back now as a whole the 5th generation probably aged the worst out of any generation while the 16 bit era aged like a fine wine.
@@RetroComparisons It only is the case of N64. I think N64 is too problematic with video cables. If you use RGB SCART ( like Packapunch UK ) on PS1 it has very nice clear image. Newer ones (GC,PS2,WII,XboxOG) used component cables: 5x wires which are awesome. PC users of 1995-1999 early 3D games had things way better and much more power.
@@pekkahollola7646 The PS1 cleans up really good with its video image. I use RGB Scart cables for it whereas with the N64 I have the UltraHDMI mod and even though it gives the best possible signal it's still a blurry mess for a majority of games. PC users did get much better 3D stuff at the time with the clean image of something akin to the Dreamcast.
Yes this. Difference in PCs vs. Consoles are the proprietary video output cables. In 1990-2000s "retro PCs" there is only common VGA-port cable. But in consoles authentic and original (=meaning best quality) video cables get rare and expensive pretty fast. I had to order some rarer cables from Japan. In Europe 90% of people don't hold on to older cables when new generation comes cables and equipment are trashed. Same said to consoles' proprietary power supply PSU units.
Well, when you compare 3D games like StarFox, or FPS like Perfect Dark, or 2D games like Yoshi's Story, or racing games like Mario Kart, N64 is always better.
Only if you compare different kinds of games, a 2D game vs a 3D game, perhaps 2D games look nicer, but you are not comparing the same type of game.
It's astonishing to see just how many Super Nintendo games were also released for the Playstation (and for that matter, the SEGA Saturn). I had no idea just how substantial the overlap was between these 'contempary' systems in Japan. Thank you for the amazing job you do with these videos, I don't know how you find the time, but it's greatly appreciated.
I couldn't believe the sheer number of crossovers either. I was researching every SNES game alphabetically and it seemed like every few games there was another that said it had a PS1 port. Thank you so much for watching! It means a lot to me for you to take the time out of your day to watch this and comment on it:)
To bad most of them are stuck out in Japan, and never released in the US.
@@MysteryAGMLegend I was mentioning this to someone recently that if some of these companies bundled a bunch of their older games from this era and translated them they could make a ton of money with minimal work. Maybe someday that will happen.
people were still warming up to the idea of buying new consoles and the snes and ps1 had a lot of overlap in 95
@@MysteryAGMLegend one of the best JP game for ps1 is Robopit 2. Impossible to read but playable.
The load times on the ps1 crono trigger are pretty insane
Best way to play the game is the SNES version with the MSU-1 patch which adds all of the FMVs the PS1 version got, plus no loading times.
@@xGMVnah. those FMVs suck
@@38kob The patch also adds the CD quality OST, you can pick them separately too if you desire. Forgot to mention.
@@xGMV the songs were arranged to be “performed” by SNES hardware and i think they still sound best there. to be fair, i think the FMVs are fine as fan service/bonuses, but i don’t like them interrupting gameplay especially when you just see the in-engine characters repeat what happened in the animation…they break the flow of big moments (like frog clearing the path to magus’ keep) and feel redundant
@@triborn217 CT on SNES is a perfect game. DS adds that bonus grind dungeon that’s a total chore, and even if you ignore it, it’s there, quietly undermining perfection (the game even draws your attention to it sometimes, nudging you to go there). i also don’t appreciate the added scene that forces continuity with CC, a game whose creator at the time said “isn’t a sequel” but still goes out of its way to ruin CT’s endings. SNES remains the definitive - it’s a closed circuit, with hardly a single flaw (the font’s nicer, too)
The Super NES was surprisingly close in quite a few of these.
I agree and I'm extremely impressed with how well it did on a lot of these ports.
Sometimes even better, Earthworm Jim 2, Chrono Trigger or Cotton 100% looks better on SNES, there's no need to bother with the PS' annoying and sometimes gamebreaking loading times as well...
@@greensun1334 Ugh yeah the load times on older CD consoles is sometimes unbearable.
@@RetroComparisons indeed
@@greensun1334 maybe on original system. All ps1 games look better on duckstation compared to snes9x for example
That Casper game on the PS1 looked super clean, the casper ghost character looked amazing for a PS1 game, im used to a lot of PS1 games graphics not aging well. Great video, love having these on while cooking or relaxing.
Thanks so much for watching! I agree, that Casper game was way better than I was expecting. It's amazing how nice a lot of these games clean up with a scart cable and an upscaler.
Your video is a game changer! I didn't know half of these games was released to ps1 as well! Thanks a lot!!!
Thanks for watching! It's crazy how many of these got ported to both systems. When I first starting putting the list together I though it would be like 30-40 games.
I love seeing this kind of content! I'm a retro gamer for life! This was easier for me to watch on 2x speed because there's SO much to see! These guys put in a TON of work capturing all this for us!
Thanks so much for checking this out:) That's a really good idea to watch this on 2x speed. You can't go wrong with these retro games, there's just something so awesome about the pick up and play nature of these. No DLC, no micro transactions, no 50gb patches that you have to wait for before playing, just put in the cartridge/disc and start playing.
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That SNES sound chip is probably the most nostalgic thing about the 16 bit generation for me. It is instantly recognizable and no other console sounds like it.
That's how I feel with the Genesis. The sound chips for both consoles are so unique and sound like childhood.
@@RetroComparisons Very true. Back when consoles had their own personality.
The same as the sega Genesis and the Nintendo NES.
@@adrianrodriguez3442 So true
Genesis sounds like arcade, NES sounds like contemporary consoles of 8-bib, but unfortunately, SNES is the only 2D retro system that sounds so unique, no other system have that sound of SNES (an it's sad, because I want to hear more SNES soundchip style on new indie retro games).
A really brief period in time when a system fully capable of impressive 3D graphics still had developers focused on 2D. I like to see when they combine both, like Castlevania. The Amiga was sort of like this too, where it took like a year for game developers to get up to speed on what the machine could do, so you had ports from 8 bit games on it.
Part of me wishes that we got a full 32 bit 2D generation because stuff like Castlevania look and play incredible. At least we did get that brief period where the Saturn & PS1 were putting out games like that before focusing mostly on 3D stuff.
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I find it ironic that the SNES had a lower resolution, but sharper graphics in some instances.
What a GREAT idea! Excellent video! Please, we need a SNES vs. Sega Saturn comparison next. Sega Retro has a list of SNES games released on Sega platforms.
Thanks so much for checking this out! I actually just posted the opposite of what you suggested lol! It's the Genesis vs the PS1 in the newest video. I think I'm going to do the SNES vs Saturn at some point in the not to distance future though too.
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This is why the game library for PS1 is so diverse and fascinating, it’s a mix of 2 different eras of tech and game design happening all at once.
The PS1 was so unique in that it started out competing with the SNES & Genesis in their dying days, the Saturn & N64 in their heyday, and then eventually with the Dreamcast for a few years.
there was something magical about older consoles. Developers would get very good at exploring the full potential and sometimes it would take years. I remember playing FF9 and saying "wow, ps1 can do that?" Nowadays we change platforms too fast and the full potential is reduced to graphic power only. It was a magical time:)
I agree 100%. It was so cool too to see how the same game would be on different consoles like sometimes the Genesis & SNES versions or PS1 & N64 versions would be completely different despite being consoles from the same generation.
Actually recent generations aren't any shorter than their predecessors. I think they might be even longer now.
Actually we change platforms slower nowadays but the element of surprise has ended since the PS3/Xbox 360 era
i believe the first xbox is from 2001, 360(2005), One(2013), S(2016) So yeah, we are changing consoles faster nowadays. And I'm not even mentioning the fact that most players are now on phones.
@@ricardotakahasi8165 I assumed you meant generations since Xbox One and S are in the same gen. Phones are a bit more like PC gaming in that they're aren't seperated by multi-year lifecycles but also devs don't want to drain the batteries out too much by pushing them. Otherwise tho I generally agree with you that some of the magic is lost in modern games but personally I think that's down to rising costs and perhaps for most people, the PS3 era was the last surprise in terms of technology jump from its previous gen. Apart from Nintendo, I suppose consoles have become a bit closer to PC gaming with its mid gen upgrades
SNES really did well and held its own, even when a more powerful machine like the PS1 was introduced. Kudos to the SNES hardware for keeping up so well!
if the nintendo disk drive was released there never would of been a ps1
Most of these games were straight ports from SNES to PS1 with little or no improvements, so it's not SNES hardware "keeping up" it's just sh!tty PS1 versions.
@@sovo1212 Absolutely! Just look at the improvements of Star Ocean 2 over 1 or Tales of Ethernia over Tales of Phantasia. Also MK3, Raiden, Captain Commando, etc.
I still have a ways to go on this video, from what I see the graphical improvements for most of the games is a warm welcome! I was expected to see more direct ports.
Asteroids takes the high quality graphics cup so far!
This is some phenominal work sir!!!!!!!
Thank you so much buddy! Take your time on this one as it's way longer than I originally thought it would be. Actually, scratch that. Stop now because you've already reached the peak with Asteroids. It's all downhill from there.
@@RetroComparisons lol, naw I will watch your efforts in play even if the peak was at asteroids lol!
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idk why I love these comparisons so much!!
I appreciate you checking this out:)
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I didn't realize that they shared so many games.
Me neither. When I started putting the list together I was expecting like 40 games at most.
There's a lot more titles on both systems than I would have thought. Amazing work putting this all together, Bill. There's a fair few I knew were on both (mainly the Capcom and Midway games and a few others), but there's plenty I don't recognize. If we are giving a winner, it's probably definitely the PSX, but some games fair better than others in terms of how much better they are on Sony's machine. Norse by Norsewest/Lost Vikings 2 is spiffied up on the PS1 (and Saturn and PC); the fighting games and Captain Commando have nicer sprites, details, and animation; T&E Soft's Pebble Beach and Augusta games and also PGA Tour '96 as well as the Madden games benefit a lot from the PSX's horsepower; the 90s arcade game ports are closer; DooM is a lot more performant and better looking (though the SNES port is quite impressive); etc. But then you have International Superstar Soccer Deluxe and some others that basically got the "SEGA CD" treatment of a slight upgrade with some extra audio and CD-Audio music.
Thanks for watching my friend and for always support me on here! I thought that the SNES held its own pretty well though a lot of that may have to do with that Sega CD treatment you mentioned which is a term I may need to borrow going forward. It's always interesting to see what would get only a CD audio upgrade or what would get a total overhaul. I guess this could be said about any gen of consoles but the PS1 in particular is pretty fascinating to me in that it offered games that were on the same level as the SNES/Genesis, had it's own thing going on putting up a great fight against the Saturn/N64, and was also able to hold its own against the Dreamcast as I've been finding out more and more while doing the current season. There's going to be a ton of duplicates but I'm thinking of putting out the same video comparing the Genesis to the PS1 since I probably already have probably over 90% of the footage that I need and can get that knocked out pretty quick.
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(The Holy Bible according to the Gospel of John, chapter 5 and verse 24, Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God says, whose existence can be proven by countless people from their own lives, says: Verily, verily, I say unto you, he that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath eternal life. He is not condemned but has passed from death to life.)
You know that Crash Bandicoot on PS1 has Extremely Different Boss Themes from American and Japanese Version
seriously such a cool and massive list... great job! it's so fascinating.
Thanks for watching! Yeah I couldn't believe how many games crossed over between these two consoles.
Great compilation of games compared! Thank you!
Thank you for watching:)
PS1 is my all-time favorite console. But if SNES and PS1 are close enough in graphics, I always go for the SNES version when getting a ROM. No loading times. Smaller files. The one exception is Mickey's Wild Adventure (AKA Mickey Mania). I prefer the moose chase on the PS1 more.
I always forget how bad early CD-based consoles were with their loading times until I start playing them so that's definitely a good idea to go with the cartridge based games when there's little to no difference.
Where was Mickey Mania on PS1? I know it had a Sega CD port but PS1 is news to me...
@@jimx117 I think it was a PAL exclusive.
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The fact that a system with half the bits is even competing is a testament to how well the SNES creators did.
Most of these are deliberately aiming to recreate, and sometimes embellish, the SNES version.
There is a massive library of Sega mega drive games on the xbox one. The fact that a system with half the bits (32x is 32bit, the 68000 is 16/32-bit instructions) is even competing is a testament to how well the mega drive creators did. See the logical issue here. These games look just like the mega drive versions or a little better. There was also the mega cd and PS1 versions of mickey mania. The mega CD version is better than the SNES version in almost every way. The mega CD version is close but worse than the PS1 version. PS1 version has better colours and some backgrounds look better. Other than that the mega CD and the PS1 versions are mostly the same game. The SNES version has less content, worse music and sound. Does the picture of the SNES now look as good? There were console out at the time that had better hardware than both the SNES and base mega drive. The 3DO 1993-1997 is an example. SNES 1990-2005. Mega Drive 1988-1997 (Sega)/1998-1999 (Majesco) The 3DO is getting a fan made version of Mortal Kombat, this is still in development and is near acrade perfect for graphics and sound. The Neo Geo's (AES) (April 26, 1990-April 22, 2004 first run) graphics and sound were largely superior to other contemporary home consoles, computers (such as the Sharp X68000) and even some arcade systems. This system was not as powerful as the 3DO.
Ports are normally close to their originals but can have remastered graphics wise or have some added content. Mickey Mania on the PS 1 is remastered from the mega cd version and not the SNES version. The idea of a port is to be faithful to the original. So yes both the original and port should be close. Does this say anything about the older and newer hardware. Well it wont. PS1 was about 3D processing and the SNES 2D processing. PS 1 is a far better console hardware wise but if they redesigned the game, then it wouldnt be a port. It would be a different game.
The difference can be seen in arcade ports. Here the developer is using the arcade as the original. Mortal Kombat 1, 2 and 3 are far better on later hardware.
no. the ps1 can handle 2d without effort , the snes cant
I think part of it is just that alot of these cross-gen games were straight conversions. They weren't a case of SNES games aspiring to their PS1 counterparts. Just SNES spritework stretched for the PS1. Easier than redrawing it. When it gets down to 2D games built from the ground-up for PS1, like Symphony of the Night, Heart of Darkness, Alundra, Legend of Mana, Rayman, it's pretty clear that the PS1 is capable of far fancier spritework and animation and effects.
I like these videos that serve as like a datapoint/dataset, thanks amigo
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Amazing work, just thanks....
Keep on the good work!!
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This is my first time I hit subscribe and bell icon in the first 5 seconds of a channel lol
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Just found your channel and its really well done, I love to watch these long informative videos when going to bed, its really relaxing, just subbed.
Also there are so many hidden gems I never knew about!
Thank you so much for your support! I'm so glad you're enjoying my content:) Oh yeah there's so many games that I never heard of before that I discovered while making these videos that don't get the love and recognition that they deserve.
Watching Uncharted Waters: New Horizons on the thumbnail made me click immediately. More so since it's remake Uncharted Waters Origin has been out for months. Thank you very much for such amazing compilation 👏🏼
Thank you so much for checking this out:) I didn't know about the remake, thanks for mentioning that!
PS1 versions improved a lot of these games but these SNES games were way ahead of its time.
The SNES, my childhood console is my favorite Nintendo console (Although the Switch is coming pretty damn close). The fact that it could match up with some of the earlier titles in the PS1 library speaks to how impressive it is. Of course there were some games that the SNES had no business having (Doom and Street Fighter Alpha 2 for example) but the others were either at par or spot on. I didn't know there that many games back then considering that a good half of those on the list never left Japan. This definitely speaks for the immense potential the Super Nintendo truly had.
The Genesis was my childhood console and I still love it to this day and even as a Sega kid I think the SNES is just as good if not better in some regards. Either way both of those consoles stand the test of time. Having Doom and Street Fighter Alpha 2 on the SNES is a pretty amazing feat even if they're not the best way to play the games. Those both seem like something you'd see come out this decade from the homebrew scene.
I'm on the same page. There was allegedly a time, where Nintendo was looking at outfitting the snes with a much more powerful CPU and associated hardware and going into the 3D realm with the SNES. I saw some vids last year, where the claim was made and it showcased some prototypes. If that was really the real deal, that SNES was capable os SO MUCH MORE!
@@jasonleveck8546 That's wild! I'd love to see what that would be capable of running.
@@RetroComparisons I know it. That SNES was a superior piece of hardware and I think they were capable of doing so much more with it. I think it may have been similar to how PC's are upgraded and the market probably wasn't there for that with most consumers.
I believe the reason SNES did well was the game developers would put a lot of time into making those games fun and a lot of money went into each game.
Plus the games were 2d mostly, and focused on fun and control.
When the later consoles came out, it seemed the games were just not as fun and as well developed.
What an incredible job, I've been looking for a channel that compares games on consoles to see which is the best version to play, I finally found it, I'll recommend it to my friends who love RETRO games, thank you very much.
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I was really surprised at how the SNES was able to keep up in some of these games. Thanks for the video!
I was surprised too with how well these SNES port stacked up to their 32 bit counterpart. Thank you so much for checking this out!
The ps1's strength was never 2d, I dare say that some games looked better on the Snes, especially Chrono Trigger.
Excellent video, thank you for doing this. Liked and subbed!
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Super de pouvoir voir comme ça les différences entre les jeux SNES et PS1 !
Thanks so much for watching!
I like how the SNES and PS1 sometimes had different art styles from each other. Because of that, there were some games I thought looked better on the SNES. I'm impressed!
This is an awesome video. But I have a suggestion. Maybe you should let one clip showcase the game and how it looks and sounds on one console and then letting the second video clip do the same on the rivaling console and then letting them play at the same time so we can really see and hear the differences between the two like a full experience.
Thanks for the suggestion and for checking this video out! For these compilation videos I like having them side by side with the audio completely split. For a lot of these games though I have separate short videos where I do about 30 seconds of footage for each and then another 30 where they're side by side.
I came here to say the exact same thing "Blackened HEart" and "8BitSnkBoy" did -- I'm a bit shocked by the amount of overlap! I expected this to be a five-minute video when I saw the title, not a solid hour. Then again, the 90s were such a crazy time for video gaming in terms of the speed of how fast the technology was improving. It made the life cycles for consoles as "top of the line" shockingly brief, with huge generational leaps in graphics happening ever 4 years or so that make the generation gaps today look meaningless by comparison. However, a user base is a user base, so often older consoles -- especially SNES, Genesis, and Game Boy -- got well-supported for years past what "last-gen" consoles typically do today. The time period of nearly 2 years between the launches of the Playstation and the N64 meant that the SNES, in particular, got Nintendo's full backing for a lot longer than most people remember as Nintendo continued to back an aging but still-impressive horse... because it was the best horse they had!
Anyway, I'm not going to get into individual comparisons here, but I do have to give SNES developers kudos for doing some very impressive work. The fact that they could make games like "Street Fighter Alpha 2" and "Doom" work on SNES at all are a real testament to their skill with the hardware. There were clearly things PS1 could do that SNES could never attempt -- advanced polygonal games, especially -- but SNES fares so much better than Genesis would have on most of these comparisons that it does show the SNES hardware had some real hidden potential it only tapped into in its final years. Awesome achievement as a comparison video on your part!
I was just as shocked as you with how many crossovers there were. As I was putting together the list for this I'd check out the Giantbomb page and think "oh my god, another one that is on the PS1!". As crazy as the 70s and 80s were with technology advances in the industry the 90s were a whole different level. While the TG-16 & Genesis were out in 1990 the NES was still the most commercially relevant and before the decade ended Shenmue was out so I guess in a way it's not too surprising with the volume of games on different generations but it's still interesting nonetheless. Street Fighter Alpha 2 & Doom are minor miracles that they ran on a 16 bit system with SFA2 in particular running quite well. After 5 years of doing this it still fascinates me to see what these consoles could handle especially when seeing stuff from their later years. Thanks as always my friend for your support! It truly means a lot to me.
20:00 this genghis khan in PSone?
I can't find this game anywhere
If you're looking for the rom try looking for Aoki Ookami to Shiroki. For some reason I've never seen it listed in its English name.
Nice ride down memory lane! What I can't believe is that developers sometimes use to make two completely different games for each platform but release under the same name. Not like today ports, these were completely different games in some cases.
Thanks for checking this out! Yeah I always found that odd when 2 games came out at the same time but were completely different. Jurassic Park is a great example where the Genesis, SNES and NES games are all different.
Final Fantasy V on SNES Sounds so Beautifully + Made in Japan
+it is a much better ff6.
@@gdassspar6nar I got so much far in FF5 that I'll Finish it on 31.12.2024
Comparing 16-bit vs 32 is not fair.
Are the sprite edges in the PS1 version of Final Fantasy 4 (15:40) there in the original or just an emulator artifact?
I think that may be a poorly dumped rom that I was using. It was one of the first games I recorded for the channel and I found a translated rom on a sketchy site lol!
Wow, I had no idea that the PlayStation version of Zoop was so stylish.
I Completed Final Fantasy V on SNES (NTSC-J) (Happy End but FF6 is waiting for me!)
SNES is and always will be my all-time favorite game system. Revolutionary for it's time. Crazy how most games look as good as the PS1, and some Even Better!
I couldn't believe it either with how the SNES in many cases was the superior port. The 16 bit era games really hold up well.
To be fair, many of those ports were very cheaply made and not improved nor optimized at least. So on top of not using at all the power of the PSX, had the minus of the longer loading times of the CD format.
@@diannerenard Very true. I'm doing a series right now on the PS1 vs the Dreamcast and the roles are reversed where the PS1 is pushing the limitations of the hardware to the max while a majority of Dreamcast ports are glorified upscaled versions.
Great video! It's missing the RPG G.O.D. from SFC and the remake on PS1
Sound effects in FF5 on PS1/PSX for some reason is Muzzled/Muffled
Doom ps1 is based on the Jaguar Port while SNES is custom and more close to the pc version. Its why it looks way different even in level layout.
Though the SNES version also had lots of slowdown due to this, its visible in the footage too.
Arcade games on ps1 were basically just the original game, had to have the sprites cut down to size for snes.
This is a great list and a wonderful resource. Though I was a bit sad since while you did mention some JRPG remakes in the video, you still either missed or just didn't mention some of the other SNES to PS1 JRPG remakes.
Thanks for checking this out. Yeah there is 1 JRPG in particular I didn't know was a remake until months after releasing this video.
@18:30 imagine it's the 1990s, you are ten years old and have no internet and are at a friends house up late and can't sleep.. everyone is sleeping and the lights are out it is 2am you have to pee, but thought you heard a noise down the hallway and are to afraid too go to the bathroom, so you turn on the PlayStation for something to do and this is all you have to play....
Wow. Over an hour! I didn't know so many SNES games were also on the PS1. That's Amazing. I'm still watching it but it seems so far most are Japan only. Wish I knew how to read Japanese cause there's so many games I want to play from there but can't
I didn't think there would be this much crossover either, I expected maybe 70 games at most. Hopefully some of these games eventually get an English translation at some point.
Really nice list. The only one I see missing is Romance of The Three Kingdoms IV Wall of Fire. The psx version had fmvs for events and was visually quite different.
Thanks for checking this out:) Romance Of The Three Kingdoms IV is hidden away at 49:00. TH-cam only allows for 100 chapters so I had to lump the whole series together in order to make it work.
THANKS FOR THE VIDEO!!!
Thanks for watching:)
1:01 Bro really said RPG Maker time.
Cool vid, I've noticed a lot of them are pretty much identical where others some slight differences like Doom the walls look slightly more polished on PS1 being more powerful than SNES so that makes sense where MK 2 and SF2 are nearly the same, Samurai Shodown the sprites are larger on PS1 closer to the arcade port. Cool video. Big Hurt I noticed was one exception of the SNES version having bigger sprites of the batters over the PS1 version. Do you have a video like this doing SNES and Sega games side by side? That would be cool too!😃Those are interesting since a lot are nearly identical where others are different as well.
Thank you so much buddy for checking this one out! I was surprised at how close a lot of these were as it's pretty much like comparing the Genesis to the Saturn which I though had a lot more differences than these two consoles did. The sprites on the fighting games like MK, SF & Samurai Shodown were a lot smaller on the SNES but are still good ports overall. Street Fighter Alpha 2 in particular is incredible that they got it to run on the SNES as is the same case with Doom. I do have a video with the SNES vs Genesis where the overall majority are very similar visually though the biggest difference is the audio. th-cam.com/video/5_ULnOZK3nk/w-d-xo.html
@@RetroComparisons Yeah the sprites seem closer with mk' sf compared to samurai like samurai that one guy especially is much bigger the fat dude lol. But yeah I hear ya graphically they're very close with mk, sf here I've noticed. Oh nice yeah the snes I like guessing sometimes which versionnisnto which console. Sometimes similar to snes and ps1 where the sprites are larger for ps1 I've noticed snes has slightly larger sprites than sega genesis but it depends on the game too. Nice ill check it out man. 😃👍🏼 even so busy following MK 1 news this week all kver the place haha looks insane but lots of jobs to MK 1 and mk 2.
@@MKF30 Oh nice! Enjoy the MK1 stuff. I need to get caught up on that so I'll be tuning into your channel. Lol yeah the big dude in the SNES version of Samurai Shodown doesn't look as massive which is maybe better for his health anyways. For some reason the SNES runs games in an 8:7 aspect ratio so when they get presented in 4:3 like everyone experienced it in the 90s on CRTs (as well as how I present it on my channel) the sprites get stretched out.
@@RetroComparisons Yeah that's interesting regarding the ratios. Didnt know that. Pretty interesting oh I will be doing a breakdown of MK 1s gameplay haha so far I just have a reaction for thr firstvtrailer weeks ago but this game is looking more like mk 9 with one style and a plate of moves for each character instead of variations like the past 2 games where you were restricted to certain special moves per character depending on your style and mk 11 didn't have many combos but MK 1 has combos back again 😁
4:14 PS1 Casper: I need a key to open this door.
Is he not a ghost can't he just teavel trough any physical object like nothing?
Lol!
Great video. Thanks
Thanks so much for watching!
I've always been under the impression that a newer console shows up before the former console's potential is fully realised. Snes version of Street Racer exactly reminded me of that.
Probably doesn't count for the criteria, but Rockman&Forte vs Megaman 8 are pretty similar, at least in Megaman's sprite.
This might sound crazy, but I've always thought that the PS1 was like a slightly more advanced CD-ROM based Super Nintendo with just more memory that which could pump out cutscenes and a bit more 3D effects. It's kind of why a lot of these games look almost the same on both systems. PS1 is what the Super Nintendo would have been like if it were CD-ROM based.
Wow 10:00, the SNES version looks massively better. Why devs, why?!
great video my friend
Thank you so much:)
Really impressive to see the graphical upgrade in the Asteroids comparison...
It's wonderful! You get that nice little "1P" on the screen. It's truly the highlight of the PS1 library.
@@RetroComparisons LOL, Yes :)
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Now compare it to the standalone PS1 series revival of the same name. :p
To be fair, if I still could enjoy SNES games today, but not the PS1 games. The pixelated graphic turns out to age well
The whole fifth gen didn't really age that well graphically or mechanically whereas the fourth gen for the most part aged like a fine wine.
I just can’t believe that there were soooooo many 2D games including ported games on the ps1,and all despites the hardware was never designed with 2D in mind because sony wanted to think forward,but it just didn’t stop developers to find clever ways around it to get their 2D games running on the ps1 by using flat textured polygons and convert all their sprites and background tile sets to it,what a courage move from sony to leave out 2D hardware altogether,it may could,ve backfired on sony if there was no way to get around that limitation.
That is pretty shocking. It's like if the Saturn ported tons and tons of 3D stuff despite it originally being designed for 2D.
I had no idea there was this much overlap between the SNES and PS1 libraries.
Neither did I until I started putting the list together. I thought maybe 40 games at the most.
The big takeway from this video is that 2D fighting games are the only ones where dealing with the load times is worth the improvement in graphics.
In the first game, the girl on the staircase, the one pumping her fist to cheer, should be a fighter. As fast as she could throw a punch she'd win easily.
Lol! She could beat Mike Tyson in Punch Out in 10 seconds with that speed.
Remember that those games were made with scanlines in mind and look vastly different and better on a CRT.
PS1 was a powerhouse when compared to SNES hence why some games look so much better on PS1 (even 2D ones). But because SNES could display many more colors when compared to Genesis, it fares better when put up against PS1.
Snes was really Super, this was peak Nintendo to bad their next consoles didnt came close in influence.
I didn’t really understand what the big deal was with Chrono on the PS1. After watching this comparison, the difference is…painful.
The load times were pretty awful on that port.
Not a lot has changed. I'm wondering if these games were first on the SNES and then were quick ports to the PS1 so they changed them as little as possible. The 16 bit JRPG style I like better than the 3D style JRPG that came about after the SNES and when a game was ported to the PS1 I was happy when little changed.
I get the feeling that probably was the case for a lot of these where they started out as 16 bit games that got a 1 to 1 port to the PS1. There are some that got complete overhauls like The Lost Vikings 2 but more often than not a lot of these are similar outside of the CD quality soundtracks. Anywho, thanks for checking this out!
Some games surprisingly look better on the SNES: Advanced VG, Clock Tower, College Slam, Frogger, The Lost Vikings 2, Mickey's Wild Adventure.
16:31 I’ll admit: FATAL Fantasy 6 is a great title
Lol whoops! I guess I was thinking of Fatal Fury when typing. But there should be a game called that.
I like how Casper is just 2 completely different games
It's weird they decided to do separate games from something that came out at the same time. I guess that was a more common practice in the 90s.
@@RetroComparisons A funny thing I'm reading about the Casper games is that the SNES version was developed by Absolute (the company that made A Boy and His Blob) and published by Natsume, but the SFC version was developed by Natsume and published by KSS. Kind of strange.
The Gameboy version seems to be yet another game, published by Natsume and developed by Bonsai. Adding to the strangeness, the Gameboy Color version is a port of the 3do/Saturn/PSX version, rather than any of the versions previously on any Nintendo systems.
The common info, like on Wikipedia, describes it as 2 games of the same name, but it looks more like 4 distinct games to me.
I can't find any exact dates, but I'm guessing Universal started shopping around for contracts and signed off on the SNES, SFC and Gameboy versions before the 3do/Saturn/PSX/GBC version and that they ultimately felt the latter was going to be the better money maker.
Probably only see this kind of thing with licensed movie tie-in games, since they're treated more like time sensitive merchandise, which is reflected in the splash screens, where it says MCA Universal Merchandising Inc.
I can't believe I read/wrote that much about Casper video games.
@@desktorp Lmao! My brain started to melt just trying to put all of that together in my mind. I love how not only did Nintendo have 2 separate games on the same console but their handheld counterpart wasn't based on either. This may tie or beat Jurassic Park for most games with the same name from the same time period but as completely different ports.
What's "Fatal Fantasy 6"? Why is the font weird in Final Fantasy IV? Why is Final Fantasy V for the SNES in English?
Fatal Fantasy is me being an idiot and making a typo. I think the fonts are weird for IV and V because they're translated.
Did not expect to see Advanced VG/Super VG here. That's such an obscure fighting game series lmao
Haha yeah I didn't even know it existed until researching for this video. It was a surprisingly fun game.
@@RetroComparisons the PS1 port even had an exclusive sequel, Advanced VG 2. I'd recommend that one also. It heavily improves upon the first one, has a few more characters, and overall feels a lot better to play.
@@TheGoldenJiggy Oh nice! Thanks for letting me know. I'd be interested in playing that.
why are the animations on the snes way smoother in the first game?
16 bit vs 32 bit🔥
"Nowaday, we only have remakes"...
I didn't even know the PS1 had so many games that were made for the SNES. Most of them were probably in a compilation games with multiple games.
I've said since launch that the PSX is a wonderful 2D machine. But load times can be bad at times due to the CD format. But it actually is superior to the SNES in every way in 2D power.
Missed Ogre Battle lets us cling toghether
It's at 59:30
@@RetroComparisons ow Sorry. I mised
@@ogamibr No worries! I thought I had missed it for a minute too when I saw your post.
Damn shame we never got a Nintendo PlayStation :(
It would be so interesting to see what the gaming industry would look like today in an alternate universe where that happened.
Sega Xbox.
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It may not have played well, but it astounds me they actually got the SNES to play Doom passably.
My thoughts exactly. It seems like a game homebrew enthusiasts would port to the system these days just to prove it could work on the hardware.
今見ると、割とどちらもいいなと思ってしまう。
O projeto do snes é de 1988, o playstation 1 um projeto de 1992/1993. Tirando a diferença de avanço de hardware, as limitações do SNES e do PS1, o Snes não faz nada feio em relação ao PS1 no 2D. No 3D não tem como. Com chips especiais o Snes fica próximo do PS1 no 2D apesar da enorme diferença de resolução entre os dois.
Os chips introduzidos nos cartuchos ajudaram muito na longevidade do vídeo game. Se não fosse eles o console teria ficado datado muito rápido, foi uma sacada muito inteligente por parte da Nintendo.
@@edvansouza236 A nintendo projetou o snes para ter chips especiais pois ela sabia que se tivesse um hardware mais potente não venderia tanto. Maioria dos jogos nem precisaria de um hardware mais potente logo ela focou que quando precisaria colocaria esses chips no cartuchos que foi uma sacada muito mais inteligente e barata de se conseguir mais potencia no hardware.
11:19 Earthworm Jim
They took out a beautiful running waterfall and replaced it with a big still image of a planet. I guess they thought the colors and details would look good but it just seems boring that way.
Great video. The viewing angle for the FIFA games is completely different. And Frogger is so chunky and cartoony on the PS1. Up to this point in the video SNES in front, which has really surprised me 😮
Thanks so much for checking this out! There's quite a few SNES games that surprised me too. When you get to Lost Vikings 2 that's another one that could go either way depending on which art style you prefer.
@@RetroComparisons I prefer the SNES version of Lost Vikings 2 and Lemmings. So on 2D stuff the SNES has the edge. But it was in 3D that PS1 excelled. The Tomb Raider games would not have been possible on the SNES.
@@johnpappas6497 Very true, the SNES was a 2D beast but it had its limitations. The PS1 had so many unbelievably great 3D games.
I see a few titles that got missed. Dragon Quest 4 and Ultimate Mortal Kombat 3.
I don't think Dragon Quest 4 was released on the SNES though it was on the NES. Surprisingly UMK3 didn't get a PS1 release which is strange because the Saturn did.
@@RetroComparisons
Who wanted UMK3, when Trilogy was the same game with MUGEN style extras?
11:50 I was born on that exact day lol.
Haha oh wow I think it's your destiny to play that game! And on a side note now I feel really old lol
I didn’t appreciate the SNES like I should’ve in the 90’s. I begged for one and when I got a job my mom didn’t allow me to buy one. Even if I had purchased one, I still wouldn’t have appreciated the SNES like I do now.
I didn't either unfortunately. I grew up with the Genesis and had that stupid childish mentality where Sega rules and Nintendo drools. Looking back there's classic game after classic game and a large majority still look nice and play great in 2023.
Man I owned FF anthology, chronicles and all those damn SNES ports to the PS1 and they we're absolute crap. SUPER LONG loading times.
I always forget how bad the loading times were on CD based consoles back then until I start playing. Even having an ODE which helps a little still takes a long time.
Oh no this gaming era is full of remaster and remakes
This video: "always has been"
Lol! Yep, even going as back to one of the first console sequels with the 5200 having a ton of "remastered" 2600 games.
What game is that on the thumbnail?
That's Uncharted Waters: New Horizon
46:00 Race Drivin' looks completely different.
Pretty sure the Playstation car lapped the Super Nintendo car.
Lol! At that framerate I think it got lapped in the first 10 seconds.
Nintendo was in no rush to release their next console. They just squeezed every last drop out of the SNES.
In one sense it seems odd they'd wait since their 2 biggest competitors already had next gen consoles out but then again the SNES came out 2 years after the Genesis so I guess they wanted to capitalize on the system as much as they could.
@@RetroComparisons Yeah, they were touting games like DKC, Killer Instinct and Doom. A schoolmate of mine had SNES Doom and boy did he love it. His PC was not up to running the original.