Now that it was lazying around for 20yrs .Put it back to work and make it earn back cost to fix it. I and my brother have my Dads 1934 WC Allis Chalmers tractor. Its still worked to this day. 86yrs old and hasn't missed any work. Not restored just serviced and repaired. Just washed years of gunk and grime off of it and repainted it back to AC Orange.
So many things going wrong here, first the pony declutching adjustment and also the pony pinion centrifugal weights need to be adjusted so it engages and disengages properly. Second the diesel has very low fuel pressure, maybe dirty filters or air, when you cracked those lines there should be alot more fuel coming out or maybe you didn't have the throttle open . You seem to have some knowledge though and obvious mechanical skills, keep up the good work.
Really should wait to close the compression release makes for better starting when the motor is up to speed up don't need eithere let the positions and sleaves build heat it let it go for like a few mins I got an 1950 car d4 6u. But nice machine sounds really good and also slow down the pony motor easier for engagement of the clutch
Dakota k is the fuel pressure gauge broken because if not there looks like no fuel pressure . I used to run side booms with donkey engines and we always got the oil pressure up and the fuel pressure up before dropping the decompression lever . Nice to see the old girl running👍 I
@@jimbrooks6962 I had to watch really close the glass and needle are broken. What I didn't when my fuel didn't come I took bad old axel gear oil bottle with the nipple on it and took out that wheel needle on the fuel filter housing and filled it up that's why he was having hard time also priming.
Fuel pressure too low , guage should be in the green, dirty fuel and blocked filters . You can still get filters. Mine were gummed up bad .Don't used aerostart
So painful to watch people use starting fluid as a fix all. I use it to clean my tools spot fee. 100 PSI of liquid like diesel fuel is all it takes to get injected into skin.
A diesel needs compression to start, and old engine that hasn't run in years will not build compression sufficient to fire a diesel with out a little outside help, or completely dismantle the engine and clean it , hone the walls etc. He's doing the best he can to get an old diesel going without spending tons of money and time
This really hurt to watch. A flagrant case of pony, pinion and diesel abuse. Did you bother to read any of the easily available manuals on proper starting procedure? The pinion latches need a simple adjustment and they would stay engaged. The pinion engagement lever is not designed to keep the pinion engaged. Why was the fuel filter not bled of any air? there are two needle valves for just that purpose. Why was it not drained of any old fuel? I think watching any of a number of good TH-cam videos on caterpillar tractor starting should have been done first.
@@txslim3338 your point? I'm a diesel mechanic and have been doing it for 40 years, give the kid a break. Rather have him playing video games or joining antifa making a fool of himself?
That kinda hurt watching you switch it from the first position on that prestart to start position as I remember they had the half start and you left it there till oil pressure was up and fuel pressure was in the green. It was trying hard but no fuel, no start. breaking injector lines loose should of have washed the side of the engine. I am surprised the pony motor hung with you so long. Most get hot and quit before long. Clean the lines, filters and check oil levels, drain dead fuel out and start with fresh... must be real tired engine
Not tired in the least the cat had less than a 1000 hours on it... It also had brand new fuel if you notice the fuel line is brand new... Also when he got it the fuel tank was off... He also had to split the tractor in order to get the clutch free so while he was at it he went through and worked on a whole bunch of stuff before he started it.
I about fainted when I saw it was in gear. The hard start was probably due to sticking valves and piston rings, gummed up injectors and injection pump due to sitting for 20 years.
I don remember if the gauge was working or not...there wasn't much pressure to begin with, he was bleeding the lines to get fuel in to the cylinders...he has put about 10hrs on that cat since then and runs like a champ
The first time the engine went for it he never rebled while diesel running. It went clear down to two cylinders. The flywheel needs new teeth and this little tyke would be much more pleasurable to say plow snow with.
Why crack the injector pipes then close them again without bleeding the air from the system ? Go learn how to bleed the fuel system and throw away the easy start can of engine destroyer
He is bleeding the air out of the lines by cracking the injector lines and closing them... As for the can of Bill Cosby... The original instruction manual that has followed the tractor since new in 1941 says to you starting fluid when cold.... Plus hes not using very much to hurt it... So far since then it has been starting like a champ With no ether needed...
When he was bleeding the lines I did see much fuel coming out. Either fuel pressure gauge is broken or fuel pump is not building much pressure. Takes a long time to bleed all the air out if you don’t start from the beginning of where the fuel comes into the fuel pump. Seemed that was a big problems as well.
Parece que o companheiro aí é meio fraco lavou as camisas não funciona tem que tirar os bicos colocar um pouquinho de óleo lubrificante em cada cilindro fazia sangria correta e se tiver White Lub para pulverizar no purificador de ar ou então a Caterpillar manda usar éter Valeu meus amigos aqui não sou profissional nessa parte aí
@@MakinEndsMeet69 been a diesel mechanic for 40 years. Used within reason it's fine, plus the either today is very very weak. You're spreading an old wives tale
@@RJ1999x I am not spreading old wives tales I just simply made a comment in the people that I know that work on diesels only with you either in a desperate situation and would insist on finding the actual problem instead of a quick crank really sorry I didn't mean to upset you but that's just how I was brought up to speak your mind which would be mean making comments which is what they all want anyways again I apologize if I upset you. I myself have been mechanicing since I was 14 years old and I am 60 now
@@MakinEndsMeet69 you didn't upset me at all, either isn't your enemy if used wisely, what does upset me is everybody ragging on that kid, he's trying and he's learning give him a break
Great job, you saved it and got it running 👍
You got to love those old engine!
Now that it was lazying around for 20yrs .Put it back to work and make it earn back cost to fix it. I and my brother have my Dads 1934 WC Allis Chalmers tractor. Its still worked to this day. 86yrs old and hasn't missed any work. Not restored just serviced and repaired. Just washed years of gunk and grime off of it and repainted it back to AC Orange.
There is a difference though, even a nuclear bomb couldn't stop an Allis Chalmers!
Good job it sounds good
Your not wrong... My teeth was grinding on every knock after the sniff of squirt... !!
That was a great watch! Good going ! Alot of work but hey , now you can build me a dirt bike track ! Haha.
Cheers
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@Jesse Lucas Yea, have been watching on Flixzone for months myself =)
@Jesse Lucas Yea, I've been watching on flixzone for months myself :)
@Jesse Lucas Yup, have been using flixzone for since november myself :)
He just needs a wee bit of schooling and he will do okay
So many things going wrong here, first the pony declutching adjustment and also the pony pinion centrifugal weights need to be adjusted so it engages and disengages properly. Second the diesel has very low fuel pressure, maybe dirty filters or air, when you cracked those lines there should be alot more fuel coming out or maybe you didn't have the throttle open . You seem to have some knowledge though and obvious mechanical skills, keep up the good work.
Will he give it a sniff of quick start spray.?
That was a hard one and the oil bath air filters are usually full of crap might be the reason is so hard and Air in the fuel Lines
Really should wait to close the compression release makes for better starting when the motor is up to speed up don't need eithere let the positions and sleaves build heat it let it go for like a few mins I got an 1950 car d4 6u. But nice machine sounds really good and also slow down the pony motor easier for engagement of the clutch
Dakota k is the fuel pressure gauge broken because if not there looks like no fuel pressure . I used to run side booms with donkey engines and we always got the oil pressure up and the fuel pressure up before dropping the decompression lever . Nice to see the old girl running👍
I
@@jimbrooks6962 I had to watch really close the glass and needle are broken. What I didn't when my fuel didn't come I took bad old axel gear oil bottle with the nipple on it and took out that wheel needle on the fuel filter housing and filled it up that's why he was having hard time also priming.
cool sounds great
Fuel pressure too low , guage should be in the green, dirty fuel and blocked filters . You can still get filters. Mine were gummed up bad .Don't used aerostart
The gauge has been broken for a long time
@@will76dodge thought so. Glass is broken, which usually means they don’t work after being exposed to the weather for that long.
Awesome!
So painful to watch people use starting fluid as a fix all. I use it to clean my tools spot fee. 100 PSI of liquid like diesel fuel is all it takes to get injected into skin.
A diesel needs compression to start, and old engine that hasn't run in years will not build compression sufficient to fire a diesel with out a little outside help, or completely dismantle the engine and clean it , hone the walls etc. He's doing the best he can to get an old diesel going without spending tons of money and time
I wish new equipment would still use pony motors. great in cold weather
@Geo Thomas when it's really cold the batteries freeze and they don't start
With a pony as long as the fuel and oil isn't frozen they will start
If you ever owned anything with a pony you would understand why your statement is wrong
@@RJ1999x I do, and my grader always starts
@@snowmobile488 I have a John Deere 720 pony, there is always something wrong with it, or it's out of gas at the most inconvenient times
Very cool nice to see the old iron getting back to work.
hold the bloody bendix in or adjust the pawls
Sounds like there wasn't any diesel getting to the engine try the injection pump
You need to get a cat man on the cat.
This really hurt to watch. A flagrant case of pony, pinion and diesel abuse. Did you bother to read any of the easily available manuals on proper starting procedure? The pinion latches need a simple adjustment and they would stay engaged. The pinion engagement lever is not designed to keep the pinion engaged. Why was the fuel filter not bled of any air? there are two needle valves for just that purpose. Why was it not drained of any old fuel? I think watching any of a number of good TH-cam videos on caterpillar tractor starting should have been done first.
they got to be able to read first.
@@txslim3338 you guys can talk a big game, where's your d2?
@@RJ1999x i retired for working on them 20 years ago
@@txslim3338 your point? I'm a diesel mechanic and have been doing it for 40 years, give the kid a break.
Rather have him playing video games or joining antifa making a fool of himself?
@@RJ1999x yeah i worked for CAT in Dallas for 30 years
String bean loves that eather
That kinda hurt watching you switch it from the first position on that prestart to start position as I remember they had the half start and you left it there till oil pressure was up and fuel pressure was in the green. It was trying hard but no fuel, no start. breaking injector lines loose should of have washed the side of the engine. I am surprised the pony motor hung with you so long. Most get hot and quit before long. Clean the lines, filters and check oil levels, drain dead fuel out and start with fresh... must be real tired engine
Not tired in the least the cat had less than a 1000 hours on it... It also had brand new fuel if you notice the fuel line is brand new... Also when he got it the fuel tank was off... He also had to split the tractor in order to get the clutch free so while he was at it he went through and worked on a whole bunch of stuff before he started it.
I about fainted when I saw it was in gear. The hard start was probably due to sticking valves and piston rings, gummed up injectors and injection pump due to sitting for 20 years.
Looks like no fuel pressure up on the gauge.
I don remember if the gauge was working or not...there wasn't much pressure to begin with, he was bleeding the lines to get fuel in to the cylinders...he has put about 10hrs on that cat since then and runs like a champ
Man need another couple hands
Starter pinion in serious need of repair.
A little rough on the clutch there bud
The first time the engine went for it he never rebled while diesel running. It went clear down to two cylinders. The flywheel needs new teeth and this little tyke would be much more pleasurable to say plow snow with.
He must be lering
Diesel injection injury about to happen bleeding hp lines using fingers.
There not high pressure until the injectors gets ready to inject
Yah, it's low pressure at the lines not like today's engines.
Let it warm up give it a little sniff of ether
Why crack the injector pipes then close them again without bleeding the air from the system ? Go learn how to bleed the fuel system and throw away the easy start can of engine destroyer
He is bleeding the air out of the lines by cracking the injector lines and closing them... As for the can of Bill Cosby... The original instruction manual that has followed the tractor since new in 1941 says to you starting fluid when cold.... Plus hes not using very much to hurt it... So far since then it has been starting like a champ With no ether needed...
That engine would have started if he would of cracked the throttle
When he was bleeding the lines I did see much fuel coming out. Either fuel pressure gauge is broken or fuel pump is not building much pressure. Takes a long time to bleed all the air out if you don’t start from the beginning of where the fuel comes into the fuel pump. Seemed that was a big problems as well.
Gummy injectors and sticky valves I expect.
That pour cat
Why do you say that?
@@will76dodge because he can talk a big game, but has never played it
That's cruelty to cats.
Parece que o companheiro aí é meio fraco lavou as camisas não funciona tem que tirar os bicos colocar um pouquinho de óleo lubrificante em cada cilindro fazia sangria correta e se tiver White Lub para pulverizar no purificador de ar ou então a Caterpillar manda usar éter Valeu meus amigos aqui não sou profissional nessa parte aí
What did they do to start these machines before starting fluid. ????? You wouldn't have made a pimple on the ass off us older men!!!!!!
Did you buy an old Cat and bring it back to life?
You know the worst thing you can put in a diesel is either.
Baloney
Ask any decent diesel mechanic what either does to a diesel and then you'll know
@@MakinEndsMeet69 been a diesel mechanic for 40 years. Used within reason it's fine, plus the either today is very very weak.
You're spreading an old wives tale
@@RJ1999x I am not spreading old wives tales I just simply made a comment in the people that I know that work on diesels only with you either in a desperate situation and would insist on finding the actual problem instead of a quick crank really sorry I didn't mean to upset you but that's just how I was brought up to speak your mind which would be mean making comments which is what they all want anyways again I apologize if I upset you. I myself have been mechanicing since I was 14 years old and I am 60 now
@@MakinEndsMeet69 you didn't upset me at all, either isn't your enemy if used wisely, what does upset me is everybody ragging on that kid, he's trying and he's learning give him a break
OH GIVE IT REST MAN YOU DONT HAVE THE KNOWLEDGE
He keeps doing the same thing over and over.
Its running but only just.
recherche un mécanicien ,lui y vas le faire démarré ton moteur .
Get the fule to the injection punp
Filter body bleed screw above pressure guage, first place to start from.
Fool
Just sell it to be before you totally destroy it. Please
V
Probably needs a fuel transfer pump
Too painful to watch.